The American Dream 🇺🇸

This topic was created in the Miscellaneous forum by ATGR on Monday, February 12, 2024 and has 14 replies.
What does the American Dream mean to you? Do you think it still matters to people in 2024?
More like a nightmare
The American dream means that I can live my life peacefully, on my terms.

Yes, my version of it does matter to me and it is still achievable, not as easy though.
Finding fertile land, enjoying a bit of sunshine and trading, taking advantage of opportunities. At least that's how it used to be. Nowadays - no idea.

My knowledge of the USA comes mainly from history books, terrible Hollywood films and a good friend who lives there in Florida. Many Norwegians like American things, especially everything about the Wild West and southern culture. But we're not very interested in its internal politics.

I'm mainly European, even though my country is not actually a member of the EU. Sometimes though when I'm chopping firewood with an axe, the old genes come through and I look longingly at our former Nordic Kingdom in Dublin, or Dyflin as we named it. Well. So it's all pretty boring really.
A joke….i never asked to be born here and wish I didn’t live here. That’s just my opinion though. If I were in a position to move I would. Never asked to be born in general, but that’s another story for another day. 😡
"What does the American Dream mean to you? "

What War Angel said in terms of peacefully living my life on my terms.

It also means being able to say "screw you" to any busybody or nutjob who thinks something is a "good idea" for me (but not them), and not be subjected to debanking, deplatforming, or harassed, or worse. It also means a playing field where one rises and falls on their own merit and industry.

"Do you think it still matters to people in 2024?"

It ought to. Because if the concepts laid out in that document derided by know nothings and shysters as written by old dead people are no longer the standard by which American society abides--we end up having a real living version of "The Road Warrior", "1984", or some combination thereof.
@mad2hatter - the UK (maybe other countries too) do have fixed rates but it’s only for 1, 2, 5 sometimes 10 years but not the entire term of the mortgage.
Basically what everyone saying, I used to think the American Dream was full of opportunities, having a nice home, full-time job, all those things your head on TV and what the media wants you to believe.

However, nowadays it’s like the opposite of it. You have school shootings, political polarization, inflation. Just like @CancerOnTheCusp mentioned, it’s like 1984 which is ironic because back in the post-war, George Orwell pictured 1984 to be dysfunctional. Well here we are now and it’s 40 years overdue waiting for it to happen.

I used to live in the USA for the first 15 years in my life. In the summer of 2018 is when my whole family and I moved to Canada. We’ve been living in Canada ever since then and I liked it better than America.
I wrote a paper about how the Industrial Revolution created the American dream. The Industrial Revolution led to economic growth and opportunity for many, but also elevated economic inequality.

And yes, the American dream is still very much alive.


If you come from third world country to USA, American dream is alive.
The American dream to me is eating enough carbs and drinking enough liquor to take me out of this hopeless bitch.

"Soul 2024"
The white picket fence dream...

Matters a lot to people still. But how many can afford it these days is a different question...
Prosper financially, if you're willing to sell yourself out to the industrial machine.