Why do people tip?

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Serious question. I mean specific industries figure people should tip, then get an attitude when you don't or if the tip you kindly gave is frugal. Plus most of them won't even acknowledge the tip or say thank you for receiving it. Why should anyone be obligated to do this?
If you order takeout...they want a tip, having a drink at a bar...they want a tip, going to the salon/barber shop...they want a tip, going out to a restaurant...they want a damn tip. These people are just DOING THEIR JOB, I don't receive tips for doing MY job, so why should they? People work hard for their money & should not be indebted to tipping if they don't want to, so that's why I stopped. A lot of people in these industries customer service skills suck, so I'll be damned if I'm going to tip them. As a matter of fact, here's a tip...YOU'RE NOT GETTING A FUCKING TIP!!!!! smile
So what are your thoughts?
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You should change your screen name to Mr. Pink.
Anyway, the only service that I know of deserving a tip are those who work in a restaurant. Waiters/Waitresses are usually paid 2-3 dollars an hour by the restaurant, with the remainder of the wait staff's income wholly dependent on tips from customers.
The other folks you mentioned probably earn minimum wage, and are not dependent on a tip like a restaurant's wait staff.
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Posted by ScorpioFish
You should change your screen name to Mr. Pink.
Anyway, the only service that I know of deserving a tip are those who work in a restaurant. Waiters/Waitresses are usually paid 2-3 dollars an hour by the restaurant, with the remainder of the wait staff's income wholly dependent on tips from customers.
The other folks you mentioned probably earn minimum wage, and are not dependent on a tip like a restaurant's wait staff.


Mr. Pink? I don't get it...but uh, 2-3 dollars? Wowzas, I had no idea.
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Posted by ScorpioFish
You should change your screen name to Mr. Pink.
Anyway, the only service that I know of deserving a tip are those who work in a restaurant. Waiters/Waitresses are usually paid 2-3 dollars an hour by the restaurant, with the remainder of the wait staff's income wholly dependent on tips from customers.
The other folks you mentioned probably earn minimum wage, and are not dependent on a tip like a restaurant's wait staff.


+1. I wrote something similar but it refused to post for some reason. I don't know how things work in America but here in South Africa, some restaurants dont pay the waiters at all & the tips are their only source of income. There's a 10% rule amongst most of these restaurants. The patron spends & gives 10% of what he spent to the waiter as a tip. The restaurant then gets their 10% cut off what the waiters made as a "pay-off" for "providing" the waiter with customers, work..etc. Not fair.
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It's all good. You'll just get your food messed with and a watered down drink next time you're there.
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There are vast stereotypes that exist for this discussion.
But imo, yes tipping is necessary.
Waitresses and most bar tenders are paid a server's rate which is like barely over $ 2/hr last time I checked.
They depend on tips, and are paid and taxed accordingly.
Honestly, this is probably better than them being paid a normal hourly wage and not being tipped, because don't you think some might not put in as much effort knowing they are paid the same either way?

I almost always tip 20%
I have never stiffed someone...regardless how shitty my experience was.
I think if you can afford to go out and eat somewhere, you can afford to tip an extra few dollars for someone's service.

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Goddamn only 2 or 3 an hours. Im glad I dont live in a city. Tho I'm sure they make killer tips.
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My first job was a cashier - also responsible for all takeout orders - and I was paid just above minimum wage.
People had the option of tipping me on takeout orders, and luckily most did because I was not paid nearly enough for the amount of shit I was responsible for. I don't think people realize half the time what all these jobs involve....but knowing first hand...I even tip take out people.
Same with nail and hair people...they are only paid a small amount of what you pay for services (the rest goes to the salon owner)
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Sorry, I know I sound really passionate about this...but that's because I am...
I have literally not been friends with someone because they didn't tip. True story
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I tip quite well, especially if the service is excellent but what I don't like is the FORCED 15% they add to your bill in some places. Basically even if the service is shit, you must tip...
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I once tipped a waitress at a Dennys 40 bucks. Adding my frends tips it came out to like 50 some dollars which was more than the ticket. But shit she was workin the graveyard shift and doing a damn good job. Maybe I was just hungry tho and enjoyed the food lolz.
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During my bartending days, I got a $ 100 tip for giving a guy a beer. He probably won the lottery that day!

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Or u were cute. That helps in the industry hahaha.
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Posted by robyn808
the whole tipping system, is intended to give your service an incentive to be nice to your ugly ass!


exactly! if they get paid the same either way....what's the incentive not to be a rude, lazy piece of shit?
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Posted by AfternoonDelights22
It's all good. You'll just get your food messed with and a watered down drink next time you're there.


Hahahaha...
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Posted by PotHeadVirgo22
I definitely agree about tipping establishments other than restaurants. Like I don't get why the hell do I have to tip a Domino's driver delivering pizza from damn near up the street? That's bullshit. However, because the food is delish and they don't take long to bring my shit this way, I 'll tip reguardless. What grinds my gears is when the mother fucker "expects" me to give them a tip especially when they get a fucking attitude about it. Bitch did you walk to my house? The fuck you got your hands out for? -_-



That's what I'm saying. People EXPECT that shit.
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Posted by robyn808
the whole tipping system, is intended to give your service an incentive to be nice to your ugly ass!


In who's rule book? Fuck that, I don't have to tip if I don't want to. That's MY money...ugly ass!
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Posted by TheMoodyVulcan
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Mr. Pink? I don't get it...


Reservoir Dogs reference.
Anyways, after having worked in the service industry myself I also tend to tip rather well, if I think the wait staff deserves it. I also know what goes into their job and if they're doing it worth a damn or not. Sorry, but if you cop a 'tude with me or are too busy playing on your phone and talking to people to do the job, then you aren't getting a dime out of me.
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I never saw the movie. Does it have some sort of significant meaning?
Yup. That's how I feel. I just don't like the fact that think you are just "supposed" to tip them & catch an attitude behind it or just give you poor service period. But waiters/waitresses...& bartenders, I had no clue that their hourly salary ranges from 2-3 dollars...sheeeesh. I knew their wage was low, but I didn't imagine it to be that low.
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Omg dumbest thing I've ever heard, I'm sorry...
Of course a server - who is being paid a server's wage, which is reliant on the expectation of tips - expects a fucking tip!!!!!
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Do any of you work overtime and not expect to be paid an overtime wage??
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It's one thing to not tip because you didn't know you were supposed to...but it's another not to because you don't think you "owe" anybody anything. That's just a tacky ass attitude.
Now you have all been educated, you have no excuse! smile
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Ok so basically patrons are really the employers then, since waiters/waitresses are dependent upon them for tips, right? People spend money to go out to eat & simultaneously, pay the employees too...am I right?
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Posted by robyn808
Posted by RealTalk
Posted by robyn808
the whole tipping system, is intended to give your service an incentive to be nice to your ugly ass!


In who's rule book? Fuck that, I don't have to tip if I don't want to. That's MY money...ugly ass!


Then go to McDonalds or stay at home and make and serve your own shit.
If tipping wasn't an option then the price of your meal would be more expensive to cover that cost. The tip gives the customer some control over the type of service they receive.
If you don't want to participate in this practice, DO NOT GO to these places.
The worst tip I ever gave was like 10% , which would have been the worst service
If I get a server how does the bare minimum I still give 15 to 20%
If I'm happy, 25% + which happens 65% of the time.
My biggest pet peeve is shitty service, it will ruin my entire experience. I'm terribly sensitive to other peoples moods, and a bad attitude will sour the taste of my food. So I appreciate the kindness and efforts that another person goes too just to make sure I enjoy my experience.
When I was younger, I once went to a Denny's, it was kinda late maybe one or two customers there, We were right up front, but we sat there for 45 mins, and nobody ever came to our table. I put my napkin in the ashtray, lite it on fire and walked the fuck out! I HATE SHITTY SERVICE!
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lmao good one
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Posted by robyn808
Posted by RealTalk
Posted by robyn808
the whole tipping system, is intended to give your service an incentive to be nice to your ugly ass!


In who's rule book? Fuck that, I don't have to tip if I don't want to. That's MY money...ugly ass!


Then go to McDonalds or stay at home and make and serve your own shit.
If tipping wasn't an option then the price of your meal would be more expensive to cover that cost. The tip gives the customer some control over the type of service they receive.
If you don't want to participate in this practice, DO NOT GO to these places.

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I'll go where ever the fuck I want on this Earth & if I choose NOT to tip in certain places, that's MY damn business, capiche?
Just like it was your business to damn near burn the fucking place down. To each is own.
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Posted by size zero superhero
Posted by RealTalk
Ok so basically patrons are really the employers then, since waiters/waitresses are dependent upon them for tips, right? People spend money to go out to eat & simultaneously, pay the employees too...am I right?


No. In any field of work that includes clientele, customers are among the primary sources of revenue for both the business AND those employed.
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I was being sarcastic...you didn't catch it.
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Posted by Prince_Pisces
Im not too concerned, seeing as how I never have to pay for my own stuff anyway LOL!


Lol, that's usually how it is for me(when I'm on a date). I don't do dutch...
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Posted by size zero superhero
Or, imagine if employers withheld/revoked your routine paycheck under premises like "your work on 'x' project was decent but I've seen better, bro" or "sorry, gotta hold onto the cash so I can pay off my Lexus. Didn't see that one coming, my bad."


i never looked at it like that...but good point....i dont tip when i get bad service
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Posted by size zero superhero
The sign on the front door of certain small/family-owned establishments that read "we reserve the right to deny service for any reason" is in some cases applicable to chronic non-tippers, especially demanding & high-maintenance customers who feel tipping is beneath them.
Those are the kinds of jobs that avoid staggering employee turnover rates & waste money as a result of frequent training sessions, since they don't let Sir Stiffs-A-Lot walk all over them.


Now I never said tipping was beneath me. I do tip when I get quality service & when I don't, they won't receive a red carpet cent & could care less what industry it's in, however, I can see why it's expected regarding waitstaff because a range from $ 1.75- $ 3 is pretty sad.
Takeout, salons...why do they deserve a tip? I used to tip them but my problem that in these positions they are expecting you to tip & like I mentioned, if it's a cheap tip they get an attitude. I don't have time for all of that bullshit, that's the main reason I stopped.
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Posted by Chance11

i've noticed a difference between ppl that are generous and ones that are miserly in degrees of happiness. one would like to think that it doesn't say something about them..but it does. no getting around it.


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What a stink system! We don't make it compulsory to tip here and everyone is paid a minimum wage or above. We have award rates and it is illegal to pay below and these rates cater for living in this country. I think for an adult it is around $ 18.50 per hour and an adult is 21 years of age and then there is superannuation on top!
So what am I expected to tip when I come to your country in October? Who do I tip? All food outlets and hotel staff? Bet you have the impression we from Australia and NZ are tight! lmao because it is foreign for us to tip but I certainly feel for you if you are earning $ 2 an hour, geez our kids get $ 30-50 a week for doing chores around the home!
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Many of my friends are servers, including my sister...and honestly...they can usually tell who is going to tip and who isn't from the moment they sit down.
Like I said, many stereotypes exist regarding tipping
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i dont tip in salons tho unless its the shampoo girl...stylist already rape people's pockets in ny for basic services...so why pay extra
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Posted by Chance11
i always tip well..especially if i've had a good week at work. i like to spread the wealth around..some of these ppl, i feel, work harder than i do for much less and have to put up with a lot more.
i've noticed a difference between ppl that are generous and ones that are miserly in degrees of happiness. one would like to think that it doesn't say something about them..but it does. no getting around it.
if the service is bad through no fault of the server, i will be understanding. if it's just plain bad for a reason such as the person hates their job then i might just not come back to that establishment. i've never waited tables but i can't imagine it's a picnic being on your feet all day, rushing around, dealing with rude, overly demanding ppl etc. for those reasons alone, i try to be the easiest customer they've had all day while tipping at a level that i feel shows some appreciation.


Ok. Valid point.
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Posted by Grey
my tips always vary based on service. i don't always do the standard 15% or whatever percentage they expect to get every time.


Yup.
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Posted by robyn808
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Posted by robyn808
the whole tipping system, is intended to give your service an incentive to be nice to your ugly ass!


In who's rule book? Fuck that, I don't have to tip if I don't want to. That's MY money...ugly ass!


Then go to McDonalds or stay at home and make and serve your own shit.
If tipping wasn't an option then the price of your meal would be more expensive to cover that cost. The tip gives the customer some control over the type of service they receive.
If you don't want to participate in this practice, DO NOT GO to these places.



I'll go where ever the fuck I want on this Earth & if I choose NOT to tip in certain places, that's MY damn business, capiche?
Just like it was your business to damn near burn the fucking place down. To each is own.



Well do them a favor... when you sit down, tell them you have no intention of tipping them for their service.
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I already did that. Thanks for the tip!!
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Posted by ianthepisces
i judge service of the server according to drink refills mostly...
i dont want to have to try to get your attention every time you walk by to get you to get me something more to drink...
and furthermore i dont want to have to ask you at all.. if you cant scan the table and notice that i need something more to drink when my glass is empty you are a lost cause, find a new job...


Lol...
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Posted by Grey
there was a article a while back of some wall street type who wrote on the bill "get a real job" rather than give the tip. what do you say now? like i said you can't tell who will tip.


Lol...
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Tip etiquette is very important, for you and your server.
You go out with the intent of being served (b/c you probably don't feel like doing it yourself). So, you're not just paying for your food/drink/hair style /whatever, but also for the luxury of customer service.

I generally tip 20% , even if the service is somewhat substandard. It would have to be REALLY bad for me not to tip. And even then, I'd probably give something like 10% . But, usually, if it comes to that (which is rare), I explain to the server and/or management why I did so, just so they know I'm not trying to shortchange anyone. For the most part, when I don't like the service, I hold my tongue and make a mental note to never return or recommend the spot.
I think that people who don't have the means or desire to tip shouldn't dine out.
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Posted by M
Posted by RealTalk
Serious question. I mean specific industries figure people should tip, then get an attitude when you don't or if the tip you kindly gave is frugal. Plus most of them won't even acknowledge the tip or say thank you for receiving it. Why should anyone be obligated to do this?
If you order takeout...they want a tip, having a drink at a bar...they want a tip, going to the salon/barber shop...they want a tip, going out to a restaurant...they want a damn tip. These people are just DOING THEIR JOB, I don't receive tips for doing MY job, so why should they? People work hard for their money & should not be indebted to tipping if they don't want to, so that's why I stopped. A lot of people in these industries customer service skills suck, so I'll be damned if I'm going to tip them. As a matter of fact, here's a tip...YOU'RE NOT GETTING A FUCKING TIP!!!!! smile
So what are your thoughts?


Agreed. I tip based on service/attitude. And because it's crap lately, I'm pretty generous when someone does a great job and doesn't try and snake a better tip. I don't care if they're ecstatic or meh, so long as it's not causing a shitty job.
Had a fiasco with a waitress where she spent the night off to the side chatting... leaving a reception stooge to seat us, a prep chef to bring us drinks, and the manager(?) to take our order and bring our food because they noticed us waiting. She'd race over afterward like she accomplished something, fake smile and all. On my way out I stopped the guys that did her job and they got her tip.
Some management is shitty diviing stuff up, and people can be real assholes with tipping...but there's a line between fair earnings and feeling entitled to extort.
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Hahaha...I bet she was pissed.
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I will absolutely judge you if you don't tip well. Its very telling.
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never understood the point of tipping. good thing i dont go to restaurants (waste of money/nothing there i would eat)
why should i pay someone for a job they are supposed to do? its not my responsibility to pay your wages, im not your employer. tip a delivery man/woman for delivering something? its their job to deliver it to me, thats what they're being paid to do. dont take a job that pays $ 3 an hour in the first place if you're going to complain to me about it.
i know in australia a server at a cafe can make a good living, they dont require you to tip there.

Posted by MsPisces.
I will absolutely judge you if you don't tip well. Its very telling.


and what is it telling of? do tell smile
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I always tip even if the service isn't so hot but I really like it when I see that my waiter/waitress is working hard and keeping up a positive, approachable persona even if they are inexperienced, sometimes forgetful, and are prone to accidents.
If I ever have a, "Spongebob" serve me in my life I'm gonna go ahead and tip em 100% the bill. If I'm rich by that time it'd be 1000% .

What I mean by "Spongebob" is a person who is clearly, passionately in love with the profession and is amazing at it.
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Posted by Metaphysical
never understood the point of tipping. good thing i dont go to restaurants (waste of money/nothing there i would eat)
why should i pay someone for a job they are supposed to do? its not my responsibility to pay your wages, im not your employer. tip a delivery man/woman for delivering something? its their job to deliver it to me, thats what they're being paid to do. dont take a job that pays $ 3 an hour in the first place if you're going to complain to me about it.
i know in australia a server at a cafe can make a good living, they dont require you to tip there.

Posted by MsPisces.
I will absolutely judge you if you don't tip well. Its very telling.


and what is it telling of? do tell smile
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Well said.
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Posted by MsPisces.
I will absolutely judge you if you don't tip well. Its very telling.


You must be in the industry where tipping is required.
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because they don't get paid enough.
But like mr pink says a lot of ppl get fucked in the area why is it our problem?

I'd have to say truer words have never been spoken.

maybe they should be grateful they even have a job? There are people in the world with greater issues than not getting tipped for the day.

I will tip when I feel like it.
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I BEING WELSH I TIP IF SERVICE IS BAD I GIVE 10% IF ITS O.K. 15% IF ITS GOOD 20 TO 25%
THE BRITS DON'T TIP EVEN IF THEY GET A B/J OUT OF IT
BEST TIPERS AMERICANS
ITS A WAY FROM MOST FOOD SHOPS TO DEFER THE COST OF HAVING EMPLOYEES I'M NOT SAYING ITS GOOD BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.
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Posted by bkbella86
i dont tip in salons tho unless its the shampoo girl...stylist already rape people's pockets in ny for basic services...so why pay extra


Those ones.Charges already are as high as hell.I never tip them
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As to me, I rarely tip.I busted my ass to get that money and u want me to share it with u while u working too.If that job pays u $ 2 go get another job. I won't be suprised to find out by the end of the day they get more money in total from tips than what I get.Otherwise that's something that comes from ur heart as an appreciation so I won't be forced to pay tips if I don't want to
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Does anyone remember that tipping scene from home alone when kevin gives the hotel guy his gum? hahahah
I'm not sure how I feel about tipping. businesses must make shit loads of money if they only pay their staff $ 3 an hour know I would make fuck tonnes of tips because I'm awesome at being nice to customers. maybe I should live in america for a year and see how I go.
another thing. My little brother is a popular drag queen in sydney and gets paid $ 250 to get up on stage and lip-synch and dance to 1 song at about 5/6 different clubs a week.....He said in america its custom for everyone to tip the drag queens and stand there with money in their hands and queens collect it....But I think it detracts from the performance because in the videos on youtube they are more concerned about running about the room getting cash than actually performing.....weird
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