The CodeBreaker, Alan Turing

This topic was created in the Movies forum by lisabethur8 on Monday, January 19, 2015 and has 24 replies.
went to see this with my family and we LOVED it.
wow, i was so awe'd and also so sad.
it made me want to look up, again, world war 2 and the Propaganda.
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Alan Turing has somewhat similar placements as Nicole Tesla, with some variation but of course, they're both geniuses.
It also made me remember how Propaganda can be very dangerous, and Hitler wanted to have the BEST on his side. Power. Control. Persuasian. The power to destroy and the power to win.
Alan Turing has Cancer sun in the 2nd house, Libra moon in 5th house. Gemini venus in the 1st, Mars Leo in 4th. And midheaven Aquarius.
the deal was, the codebreakers are chosen and just a small handful,
the British government kept alot of SECRETS. they even decided who would win and who would die.
it's like they played God.
It's really sad, but it just goes to show you that the highest power up there, have the genius and smarts as well as the ability to UNDERSTAND people's deep emotions. This is propaganda.
Hitler hired the best scientists, even the best at propaganda:

Joseph Goebbels, Scorpio sun/mars with a stellium Libra. All that libra energy used and abused that power siding with Hitler.
also, at that time, it was against the law to have homosexuality, and would be considered prison time or they had what would be called a kind of therapy to help aid in hormones.
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of course Scorpio and taurus both abused the power (Hitler with stellium taurus in packed air houses)
its really scary reading those types of men who played "God".
The british government had to keep secret to be "smarter" than Germany. must be really tough to be "up there".
I will have to give it a go...
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you'll really love it if you like this kind of thing.
also, be prepared to cry. it's so heart-wrenching.
men dont usually cry but us ladies do.
Keira Knightley imo did a great job, as i prefer her in this type of role than playing Elizabeth Bennett. she seemed lackluster as Elizabeth. the version with Colin Firth was better.
If you are interested in the Bletchley Circle, and have Netflix.
I would also recommend, this series:
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i have already seen it last year, but it is tied to what's going on in the ww2.
My calc professor is REALLY into this movie, and me and my friend saw it on a recommendation from him. After we saw it, he told us some discrepancies in the movie... first of all, they exaggerated the prejudices of the time period. It was bad/illegal to be gay, but apparently Alan was openly gay. and there really was a spy working with them, but not working directly with them. Him and Alan probably never met.
Oh yeah, and this one I think is the funniest: You know that scene when they're in the bar and they freak out and run to the machine because they realized to look for common words in the messages??? In real life, they were doing that all along.Laughing
But yeah, it was a GREAT movie. I like the symbolism of "the imitation game" title.
Oh yeah, and the thing was true about Alan's boyhood crush. He got tuberculosis.
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My calc professor is REALLY into this movie, and me and my friend saw it on a recommendation from him. After we saw it, he told us some discrepancies in the movie... first of all, they exaggerated the prejudices of the time period. It was bad/illegal to be gay, but apparently Alan was openly gay. and there really was a spy working with them, but not working directly with them. Him and Alan probably never met.
Oh yeah, and this one I think is the funniest: You know that scene when they're in the bar and they freak out and run to the machine because they realized to look for common words in the messages??? In real life, they were doing that all along.Laughing
But yeah, it was a GREAT movie. I like the symbolism of "the imitation game" title.


we had to go look up if Joan was REAL. Apparantly she was too.
gosh, calc professors and their need for accuracy. so boring!! they need to just relax and enjoy the HOLLYWOOD -esque feel of it. geez. thats why it's enjoyable for all viewers.
i really doubt you could be openly gay in the military there.
exaggerated the period?? Um, i dont think so. Did you see the films of the 60s and the extreme prejudices of both homosexuals and blacks???
Well... that's weird. I don't know much about that, its just what my professor said, lol!!
I am a math or person... Dyslexic... and INFJ... We look for patterns to relate why people or anything in reality happens.
I think this is why I am so in to astrology.
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Documentary or Biography
http://www.solarmovie.is/link/play/3674722/

Binary Code- although this is not directly about the movie it is what the machine used to organize the codes. Game theory and Most of all I Ching... Yin Yan are 1 and 0...
Good post for the site
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_code

Sorry I research things... As a history person... and math I love this kinda stuff. I always new it was here but never really looked into it. I may have found a new obsession...
thank you
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Posted by piscesmoon2
I am a math or person... Dyslexic... and INFJ... We look for patterns to relate why people or anything in reality happens.
I think this is why I am so in to astrology.
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i am not into math and i hate math, my grandfather was a genius in math though.
but i hate math.
and i'm into astrology. I beleive all types of people can be into astrology, and for me it's also patterns in history, but people in general are not sheep.
unless they are naive and they are going to be prone to believing those people up in POWER.
because they do have the power and status. (which relates to the topic of Propaganda and mind control/playing with peoples emotions)
and which KARMA and your responsibility to humankind is important when you're still alive.
His birth chart.
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?wgid=wgeJwljkELwjAUg3-NoBDhvY6JWt7BgwxUPCmeO1q2oe1k6xj797Z4SSCEfJm7dydKN14M62DlMQ1daHD6mAAPVWAHPrACqSOXaMmhMSMItz7YPuB8r1aK1s_rBjQzoeRQECbwnjgLgbSxdTDeSd5M5T8hp9ZEJ6pI2WUKLlkm6Tou3_TIx1ZMnHU7LrJlPYzCr-oHQFYzNg

I can't say I am not shocked with all the Air... As well as Uranus conj. MC in Aqua is an amazingly strong sensitivity point for Aqua gifting... Mostly dealing with the areas he studied.
Moon in 6th house... Libra strong...
Risings Gem... Venus Pluto... conj. there too... this most likely had to do with his sexuality out in the open.
Saturn in 12 house... Taurus maybe the musical affinity he had... as well as social problems...
I am going to look at it more...
The gay thing which I have nothing against although don't understand... because I am not attracted to men... has to do with so much action in Cancer... Conj. With Venus cusping
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that's why the government keeps alot of secrets so they can PROTECT (that is why they have the secret service) both in british government and u.s. everywhere.
they have ALOT of responsibility for the people.
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His birth chart.
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?wgid=wgeJwljkELwjAUg3-NoBDhvY6JWt7BgwxUPCmeO1q2oe1k6xj797Z4SSCEfJm7dydKN14M62DlMQ1daHD6mAAPVWAHPrACqSOXaMmhMSMItz7YPuB8r1aK1s_rBjQzoeRQECbwnjgLgbSxdTDeSd5M5T8hp9ZEJ6pI2WUKLlkm6Tou3_TIx1ZMnHU7LrJlPYzCr-oHQFYzNg
I can't say I am not shocked with all the Air... As well as Uranus conj. MC in Aqua is an amazingly strong sensitivity point for Aqua gifting... Mostly dealing with the areas he studied.
Moon in 6th house... Libra strong...
Risings Gem... Venus Pluto... conj. there too... this most likely had to do with his sexuality out in the open.
Saturn in 12 house... Taurus maybe the musical affinity he had... as well as social problems...
I am going to look at it more...
The gay thing which I have nothing against although don't understand... because I am not attracted to men... has to do with so much action in Cancer... Conj. With Venus cusping
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i looked up his chart at astrotheme.
you're right. Uranus conjunct midheaven 10th house. opposing leo mars. and well he was dominant air, his top three is gemini, aquarius and cancer.
his libra moon isn't dominant, but it still exerts itself in personal relationships. esp. 6th house.
anyway he passed away, they said, (and if you read on Wikipedia) he committed suicide.
r.i.p alan turing.
btw, Benedict Cumberbatch played very very well. excellent performance. i also enjoyed his voice as the dragon in Hobbit.
It was not the Libra moon as much but the house placement I was looking at... I do believe the moon is strong but you are right to say it is not where his genus comes from... That would be in my mind the Uranus conj. MC in Aqua. That is about as strong of a point as someone can get other then maybe placed in the 11 house with Jupiter conj. it.
http://www.theastrologyplace.uk/2012/06/moon-in-6th-house.html

The Libra moon I felt showed in his child hood the best as he understood if he did not give people the satisfaction they would not keep attacking him. AKA so fair and leveled minded that seemingly almost emotionless at times. Also the work situation... A cookie cutter link but it is always the sign and house... also the fact that it interacts so much with placements in gem. and then His Uranus placement...
Although it is a really general Air trait... lol
I look at a chart and try to make it fit someone... I had no idea you new as much as you do though. You seem like you are very talented... and know white about astro...
Any which way I am happy I found and astro buddy...
Yea
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Posted by piscesmoon2
It was not the Libra moon as much but the house placement I was looking at... I do believe the moon is strong but you are right to say it is not where his genus comes from... That would be in my mind the Uranus conj. MC in Aqua. That is about as strong of a point as someone can get other then maybe placed in the 11 house with Jupiter conj. it.
http://www.theastrologyplace.uk/2012/06/moon-in-6th-house.html

The Libra moon I felt showed in his child hood the best as he understood if he did not give people the satisfaction they would not keep attacking him. AKA so fair and leveled minded that seemingly almost emotionless at times. Also the work situation... A cookie cutter link but it is always the sign and house... also the fact that it interacts so much with placements in gem. and then His Uranus placement...
Although it is a really general Air trait... lol
I look at a chart and try to make it fit someone... I had no idea you new as much as you do though. You seem like you are very talented... and know white about astro...
Any which way I am happy I found and astro buddy...
Yea
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he was not good with people that's for sure. I'm an amateur, but i still like talking about this with like-minds on an astro site. not familiar with gem placements but i do notice gem and other gems get eachother, even if its in the hidden placements and not in the sun. Also if no gem, the virgo itself gets gem too. because of the connection of "mercury". i see this with my husband's virgo bits and one of his best friends who has a gem placement in personal planets. his best friend once commented how he thought Jennifer Lawrence looks hot or is very compelling. My husband doesn't think so, or could care less. But i do notice his best friend has a gemini venus, which conjuncts Jennifer Lawrence's gemini moon.
interestingly enough, that's why Chris Martin liked/attracted to both Gwen paltrow and Jennifer Lawrence (both having gem moon) cause Martin has aquarius mars, and gemini midheaven. venus in aries helps too. also virgo rising with some of that merc energy. 3rd house Uranus and 11th house moon.
Posted by lisabethur8
interestingly enough, that's why Chris Martin liked/attracted to both Gwen paltrow and Jennifer Lawrence (both having gem moon) cause Martin has aquarius mars, and gemini midheaven. venus in aries helps too. also virgo rising with some of that merc energy. 3rd house Uranus and 11th house moon.


oohhhh here's another interesting tidbit...
i just was curious of jennifer lawrence's chart. and my husband's buddy is with a libra sun woman.
and Lawrence's sun is in 7th house. O_O and with Chris Martin who liked both Paltrow and Lawrence.
sooooo cool. Big Grin Big Grin
i just wanna say....
Hidden synastry for the win!! Big Grin Big Grin
Posted by lisabethur8
i just wanna say....
Hidden synastry for the win!! Big Grin Big Grin


You kinda lost me not going to lie... I just was like what... I have not really read up as much as I should for I guess how much I chart on synastry... type stuff... Either way I would think it is compatibility... I have never really tried to read to much on it... from what I understand it is midpoints... of both charts... and what the relationship will turn into...
I personally like to try to put the person in my mind together from the chart and then see how well both will work together... I have never really tried the midpoint thing in two charts as much...
I could be reading what you are saying so wrong even more so with mercury retro now... lol
I have been looking into quantum mechanics... now though... which relates to the idea of the movie... in a weird way I think.

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Posted by piscesmoon2
Posted by lisabethur8
i just wanna say....
Hidden synastry for the win!! Big Grin Big Grin


You kinda lost me not going to lie... I just was like what... I have not really read up as much as I should for I guess how much I chart on synastry... type stuff... Either way I would think it is compatibility... I have never really tried to read to much on it... from what I understand it is midpoints... of both charts... and what the relationship will turn into...
I personally like to try to put the person in my mind together from the chart and then see how well both will work together... I have never really tried the midpoint thing in two charts as much...
I could be reading what you are saying so wrong even more so with mercury retro now... lol
I have been looking into quantum mechanics... now though... which relates to the idea of the movie... in a weird way I think.

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i had problems yesterday with mail and the mailmen kpt delivering the wrong packages to our home, and we have packages here that are for other neighbors but they aren't home (probably on vacation) and it happened on the last merc retro. It's really YUCKY.
those who have to work in communication, or sales are gonna have difficulties maybe?? mostly what i hear is travelers, like those postmen delivery guys who are constantly giving the wrong package. i dont blame them, it's the companies usually. Lots of mix ups. and also i read the airlines last couple days cancelled. I haven't checked the news but hopefully it's died down.
you lost me at quantum mechanics. i'm really dumb at that stuff. i'll stick to amateur astro stuff.
I work in sales... of a kind... No it has not died down... I have seen a few things or other deals I have heard of going down... not in my industry but just building and housing deals just busted... I have a few friends that sale other things they are at a loss...
What I do is fallow up on other old customers and focus on bettering or improving things I can in other ways. I know that sounds weird and although sales is the focus of my job. I would say having the right tools being organized... and ready for the future can have a big impact. I find that being down after a Mercury retro can lag on people... So if you know when it ends and ready to hit the ground running... it can be and advantage. It is frustrating though...
Understanding the basics of quantum mechanics expanded the way I look at charting. Math in general... as well as game theory...
The movie got me to download and audio book... The Predictioneer's Game by Bruce Bueno De Mesquita.
Like this movie he understand that humans failed to calculate the correct answers fast enough... This guy made a computer program for predicting and bending paths. The key is to think really out side the box often... Situational...
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