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In racing, where you look is where you'll end up. If lose control of your car in a turn and look at the wall, you'll hit it, but if you look where you want to go, you'll correct your car... Life can be the same.

Is this about determination?

Luck?

Mumbo jumbo?


Thoughts?

Posted by OceanBoy88
Its a good theory. The human mind is amazing, i suppose if you face an escape, the fight or flight choices will control your actions. Facing wall activates fight, so you brace impact and watch the wall for brace timing. Watch exit, activates flight, body uses dexterity to engage all escaping maneuvers and previously recorded knowledge of vehicle physics and any prerecorded vehicular incidents.

So, the hypothalamus, aka, the pituitary/hypothalamus autonomic system kinda, "jumps in" or "gives up"

But in terms of life. How one handles any potential issue I believe,is handled the same way.

People in relationships that are threatened, when a gun is to your head, if you ever find yourself running to protect yourself...

The same theory applies.

How we deal in a quarter os a millisecond can decide our destiny. IMO.

Posted by Mohini
In racing, where you look is where you'll end up. If lose control of your car in a turn and look at the wall, you'll hit it, but if you look where you want to go, you'll correct your car... Life can be the same.

Is this about determination?

Luck?

Mumbo jumbo?


Thoughts?

It's about vigilance and being assertive enough to take control of your life when things go wrong.

Posted by themagnetoreborn

Posted by Mohini
In racing, where you look is where you'll end up. If lose control of your car in a turn and look at the wall, you'll hit it, but if you look where you want to go, you'll correct your car... Life can be the same.

Is this about determination?

Luck?

Mumbo jumbo?


Thoughts?

It's about vigilance and being assertive enough to take control of your life when things go wrong.

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Agreed.
Why are people geared differently? Why do some fight, while other find solace in flight?

Posted by Mohini

Posted by themagnetoreborn

Posted by Mohini
In racing, where you look is where you'll end up. If lose control of your car in a turn and look at the wall, you'll hit it, but if you look where you want to go, you'll correct your car... Life can be the same.

Is this about determination?

Luck?

Mumbo jumbo?


Thoughts?

It's about vigilance and being assertive enough to take control of your life when things go wrong.

Agreed.
Why are people geared differently? Why do some fight, while other find solace in flight?

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This has everything to do with one's outlook on life - optimism vs. pessimism.
Those two terms aren't defined by the degree of happiness one experiences. It has more to do with how you believe difficult things are either within your coping abilities (ie. optimistic thinking) or beyond your coping abilities (ie. pessimistic thinking).

I strongly believe that the challenges we face in life are tailor made for /us/ as individuals. Meaning, your problems may not be as big as my problems (relatively speaking), but we both deal with them differently in the way /we/ only know how to - with an optimistic mindset (this problem is /not/ greater than I am and I can deal with it / emerge victorious) or a pessimistic mindset (this problem /is/ greater than I am and there's no way I'll see it through).

Optimism = hopefulness after many trials and errors and holding onto the idea of a better future for yourself/others...not losing your sense of direction
Pessimism = /learned/ helplessness after many trials and errors and losing your sense of direction

Pessimistic people find solace in flight (ultimately getting lost), whereas optimistic people fight.

@Mohini, was my answer insightful/sufficient?

Posted by themagnetoreborn

Posted by Mohini

Posted by themagnetoreborn

Posted by Mohini
In racing, where you look is where you'll end up. If lose control of your car in a turn and look at the wall, you'll hit it, but if you look where you want to go, you'll correct your car... Life can be the same.

Is this about determination?

Luck?

Mumbo jumbo?


Thoughts?

It's about vigilance and being assertive enough to take control of your life when things go wrong.

Agreed.
Why are people geared differently? Why do some fight, while other find solace in flight?

This has everything to do with one's outlook on life - optimism vs. pessimism.
Those two terms aren't defined by the degree of happiness one experiences. It has more to do with how you believe difficult things are either within your coping abilities (ie. optimistic thinking) or beyond your coping abilities (ie. pessimistic thinking).

I strongly believe that the challenges we face in life are tailor made for /us/ as individuals. Meaning, your problems may not be as big as my problems (relatively speaking), but we both deal with them differently in the way /we/ only know how to - with an optimistic mindset (this problem is /not/ greater than I am and I can deal with it / emerge victorious) or a pessimistic mindset (this problem /is/ greater than I am and there's no way I'll see it through).

Optimism = hopefulness after many trials and errors and holding onto the idea of a better future for yourself/others...not losing your sense of direction
Pessimism = /learned/ helplessness after many trials and errors and losing your sense of direction

Pessimistic people find solace in flight (ultimately getting lost), whereas optimistic people fight.

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Do you believe once one choices pessimism or optimism it's forever?

I agree 100% .

Just i wonder of its possible, from what you wrote, to alter anothers path by teaching a different thought process.


Thanks btw.


I love talking about this stuff🙂

Posted by themagnetoreborn
@Mohini, was my answer insightful/sufficient?

You want validation or are you asking for approval ? : ) Hehe. Yea.


I think there is a mindset we are born into. Whether it's engrained in our DNA or by sheer determination, it makes a hell of a difference ya know?

I don't want to go as far as calling it a warriors heart but some people refuse to fall victim, DESPITE their encounters.
That has to mean something.

Where does that come from?

Can it be shared?

Or is it simply, one of those things like.. you have blue eyes or brown. Lol

Posted by OceanBoy88
Forgot about your last sentence in reference to life. It makes sense, constantly aiming towards victory can lead you there but i believe it would be more in the determination side. Sorry i was completely wrapped up in the car scenario lol i was feeling myself because i have almost crashed taking a dangerous turn at about 120 mph

I just saw this. Yes!

In our lives, we face these moments, small and large.. from driving on black ice and making the turn to correcting a faux pax we spoke and talking our way out of it.

Sheer determination.

Posted by Mohini

Posted by themagnetoreborn

Posted by Mohini

Posted by themagnetoreborn

Posted by Mohini
In racing, where you look is where you'll end up. If lose control of your car in a turn and look at the wall, you'll hit it, but if you look where you want to go, you'll correct your car... Life can be the same.

Is this about determination?

Luck?

Mumbo jumbo?


Thoughts?

It's about vigilance and being assertive enough to take control of your life when things go wrong.

Agreed.
Why are people geared differently? Why do some fight, while other find solace in flight?

This has everything to do with one's outlook on life - optimism vs. pessimism.
Those two terms aren't defined by the degree of happiness one experiences. It has more to do with how you believe difficult things are either within your coping abilities (ie. optimistic thinking) or beyond your coping abilities (ie. pessimistic thinking).

I strongly believe that the challenges we face in life are tailor made for /us/ as individuals. Meaning, your problems may not be as big as my problems (relatively speaking), but we both deal with them differently in the way /we/ only know how to - with an optimistic mindset (this problem is /not/ greater than I am and I can deal with it / emerge victorious) or a pessimistic mindset (this problem /is/ greater than I am and there's no way I'll see it through).

Optimism = hopefulness after many trials and errors and holding onto the idea of a better future for yourself/others...not losing your sense of direction
Pessimism = /learned/ helplessness after many trials and errors and losing your sense of direction

Pessimistic people find solace in flight (ultimately getting lost), whereas optimistic people fight.

Do you believe once one choices pessimism or optimism it's forever?

I agree 100% .

Just i wonder of its possible, from what you wrote, to alter anothers path by teaching a different thought process.


Thanks btw.


I love talking about this stuff🙂

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Well, pessimism can be untaught and optimism can be learned. If you tell yourself on a daily basis "I /will/ do this" or "I /am/ capable of doing this," you'll reach a point in time where you'll be familiar with your own strengths more than your weaknesses. But it all starts with the way you /think/ about things on a daily basis.

@Mohini

Well, pessimism can be untaught and optimism can be learned. If you tell yourself on a daily basis "I /will/ do this" or "I /am/ capable of doing this," you'll reach a point in time where you'll be familiar with your own strengths more than your weaknesses. But it all starts with the way you /think/ about things on a daily basis. For instance, if something suddenly goes wrong, and you end up in traffic and you know you'll be late to work, instead of telling yourself "I'm so screwed, I'm so so so screwed, this ALWAYS happens to me" tell yourself "there's nothing I can do right now about this situation...but I can make sure that starting tomorrow, I'll leave my house earlier so that I can make it to work on time...plus me showing up late to work won't be the worst thing that can happen to me"

Posted by themagnetoreborn
@Mohini

Well, pessimism can be untaught and optimism can be learned. If you tell yourself on a daily basis "I /will/ do this" or "I /am/ capable of doing this," you'll reach a point in time where you'll be familiar with your own strengths more than your weaknesses. But it all starts with the way you /think/ about things on a daily basis. For instance, if something suddenly goes wrong, and you end up in traffic and you know you'll be late to work, instead of telling yourself "I'm so screwed, I'm so so so screwed, this ALWAYS happens to me" tell yourself "there's nothing I can do right now about this situation...but I can make sure that starting tomorrow, I'll leave my house earlier so that I can make it to work on time...plus me showing up late to work won't be the worst thing that can happen to me"

Oh I totally agree. Preaching to the choir.

Posted by themagnetoreborn
@Mohini

Well, pessimism can be untaught and optimism can be learned. If you tell yourself on a daily basis "I /will/ do this" or "I /am/ capable of doing this," you'll reach a point in time where you'll be familiar with your own strengths more than your weaknesses. But it all starts with the way you /think/ about things on a daily basis. For instance, if something suddenly goes wrong, and you end up in traffic and you know you'll be late to work, instead of telling yourself "I'm so screwed, I'm so so so screwed, this ALWAYS happens to me" tell yourself "there's nothing I can do right now about this situation...but I can make sure that starting tomorrow, I'll leave my house earlier so that I can make it to work on time...plus me showing up late to work won't be the worst thing that can happen to me"

Do you think we can teach others to think the same? Or is that futile? Ž

Posted by Mohini
In racing, where you look is where you'll end up. If lose control of your car in a turn and look at the wall, you'll hit it, but if you look where you want to go, you'll correct your car... Life can be the same.

Is this about determination?

Luck?

Mumbo jumbo?


Thoughts?

I think it is like giving auto-suggestion to body.

What you think in mind will control your action.

Posted by RumiL

Posted by Mohini
In racing, where you look is where you'll end up. If lose control of your car in a turn and look at the wall, you'll hit it, but if you look where you want to go, you'll correct your car... Life can be the same.

Is this about determination?

Luck?

Mumbo jumbo?


Thoughts?

I think it is like giving auto-suggestion to body.

What you think in mind will control your action.

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Always.


Do you think a person who isn't programmed to think this way can be changed?

To an extent I do believe in this.. That negative thoughts will bring weird negative outcomes.

It's not that thought will bring negative things...

It has more to do with what a thought makes you.

For example, a person with positivity coming from his core will bring positivity into his life because - it is the state of being he is in with that positivity - the things he does in that positivity will definitely be waaaay different from a person with a negative approach.

So, the deeds he does directly or indirectly, the way he interacts with everything and everyone will be a lotttttt different from a comparatively negative person... Because, it is just the difference in state of being that makes them act differently.. That affects things around him in ways that cannot be seen.

That is why positivity or mere indifference(say, doing things with just a sense of duty but not bothering to feel too positive or negative about the work which you do) also brings better things in life than negativity..IMO.

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Posted by themagnetoreborn
@Mohini

Well, pessimism can be untaught and optimism can be learned. If you tell yourself on a daily basis "I /will/ do this" or "I /am/ capable of doing this," you'll reach a point in time where you'll be familiar with your own strengths more than your weaknesses. But it all starts with the way you /think/ about things on a daily basis. For instance, if something suddenly goes wrong, and you end up in traffic and you know you'll be late to work, instead of telling yourself "I'm so screwed, I'm so so so screwed, this ALWAYS happens to me" tell yourself "there's nothing I can do right now about this situation...but I can make sure that starting tomorrow, I'll leave my house earlier so that I can make it to work on time...plus me showing up late to work won't be the worst thing that can happen to me"

Do you think we can teach others to think the same? Or is that futile? Ž

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Well certainly! If you call out someone for being negative all the time or pessimistic, it will surely cause hem to start thinking about their way of thinking. You'd be planting the seed of positive thinking. No one likes being called a negative nancy or a pessimistic person - it has a negative connotation to it and is usually a label for people who aren't willful and are weak minded.

Posted by Mohini

Posted by RumiL

Posted by Mohini
In racing, where you look is where you'll end up. If lose control of your car in a turn and look at the wall, you'll hit it, but if you look where you want to go, you'll correct your car... Life can be the same.

Is this about determination?

Luck?

Mumbo jumbo?


Thoughts?

I think it is like giving auto-suggestion to body.

What you think in mind will control your action.

Always.


Do you think a person who isn't programmed to think this way can be changed?

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You mean like a positive thinker? IDK.. it should come from within for a person.

Over the years I have realised that man only changes when he wants to...even if the whole world sits down to tell him sweetly - he will see only that which he wants to.

Posted by Mohini

Posted by themagnetoreborn
@Mohini, was my answer insightful/sufficient?

You want validation or are you asking for approval ? : ) Hehe. Yea.


I think there is a mindset we are born into. Whether it's engrained in our DNA or by sheer determination, it makes a hell of a difference ya know?

I don't want to go as far as calling it a warriors heart but some people refuse to fall victim, DESPITE their encounters.
That has to mean something.

Where does that come from?

Can it be shared?

Or is it simply, one of those things like.. you have blue eyes or brown. Lol

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Oh, where does optimism come from? High Self-esteem maybe, and a natural hopefulness for the future. So it could be something people are just born with, but I think many people -willing to learn - have subconsciously/consciously taught themselves optimism through their own difficulties. So much to the point where they say "if I was able to get through xyz at this time of my life, I can most definitely get through this"

I believe it's about having an aggressive mindset.

Posted by Palerio
I believe it's about having an aggressive mindset.

Why?

Posted by RumiL

Posted by Mohini

Posted by RumiL

Posted by Mohini
In racing, where you look is where you'll end up. If lose control of your car in a turn and look at the wall, you'll hit it, but if you look where you want to go, you'll correct your car... Life can be the same.

Is this about determination?

Luck?

Mumbo jumbo?


Thoughts?

I think it is like giving auto-suggestion to body.

What you think in mind will control your action.

Always.


Do you think a person who isn't programmed to think this way can be changed?

You mean like a positive thinker? IDK.. it should come from within for a person.

Over the years I have realised that man only changes when he wants to...even if the whole world sits down to tell him sweetly - he will see only that which he wants to.

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You said "he"

I meant mankind.or womankind 🙂

Posted by Mohini

Posted by RumiL

Posted by Mohini

Posted by RumiL

Posted by Mohini
In racing, where you look is where you'll end up. If lose control of your car in a turn and look at the wall, you'll hit it, but if you look where you want to go, you'll correct your car... Life can be the same.

Is this about determination?

Luck?

Mumbo jumbo?


Thoughts?

I think it is like giving auto-suggestion to body.

What you think in mind will control your action.

Always.


Do you think a person who isn't programmed to think this way can be changed?

You mean like a positive thinker? IDK.. it should come from within for a person.

Over the years I have realised that man only changes when he wants to...even if the whole world sits down to tell him sweetly - he will see only that which he wants to.

You said "he"

I meant mankind.or womankind 🙂

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Sorry I meant human :p

Posted by Mohini

Posted by Palerio
I believe it's about having an aggressive mindset.

Why?

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It's that eargness and fervour that we will really make you appreciate things in life, even the smallest ones.

Posted by RumiL

Posted by Mohini

Posted by RumiL

Posted by Mohini

Posted by RumiL

Posted by Mohini
In racing, where you look is where you'll end up. If lose control of your car in a turn and look at the wall, you'll hit it, but if you look where you want to go, you'll correct your car... Life can be the same.

Is this about determination?

Luck?

Mumbo jumbo?


Thoughts?

I think it is like giving auto-suggestion to body.

What you think in mind will control your action.

Always.


Do you think a person who isn't programmed to think this way can be changed?

You mean like a positive thinker? IDK.. it should come from within for a person.

Over the years I have realised that man only changes when he wants to...even if the whole world sits down to tell him sweetly - he will see only that which he wants to.

You said "he"

I meant mankind.or womankind 🙂

Sorry I meant human :p

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No it's ok. It's about interpretation.

Do you use your husband as a basis for your response? I love learning new pov. I found it interesting.

Posted by Palerio

Posted by Mohini

Posted by Palerio
I believe it's about having an aggressive mindset.

Why?

It's that eargness and fervour that we will really make you appreciate things in life, even the smallest ones.

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I think the drive is instinctive. I don't think it can be taught.

It's either in you or not and its apparent.

But yes.

It comes naturally.

Posted by Mohini

Posted by RumiL

Posted by Mohini

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Posted by Mohini

Posted by RumiL

Posted by Mohini
In racing, where you look is where you'll end up. If lose control of your car in a turn and look at the wall, you'll hit it, but if you look where you want to go, you'll correct your car... Life can be the same.

Is this about determination?

Luck?

Mumbo jumbo?


Thoughts?

I think it is like giving auto-suggestion to body.

What you think in mind will control your action.

Always.


Do you think a person who isn't programmed to think this way can be changed?

You mean like a positive thinker? IDK.. it should come from within for a person.

Over the years I have realised that man only changes when he wants to...even if the whole world sits down to tell him sweetly - he will see only that which he wants to.

You said "he"

I meant mankind.or womankind 🙂

Sorry I meant human :p

No it's ok. It's about interpretation.

Do you use your husband as a basis for your response? I love learning new pov. I found it interesting.

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I don't have a husband.. 😄

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Posted by Mohini

Posted by RumiL

Posted by Mohini

Posted by RumiL

Posted by Mohini

Posted by RumiL

Posted by Mohini
In racing, where you look is where you'll end up. If lose control of your car in a turn and look at the wall, you'll hit it, but if you look where you want to go, you'll correct your car... Life can be the same.

Is this about determination?

Luck?

Mumbo jumbo?


Thoughts?

I think it is like giving auto-suggestion to body.

What you think in mind will control your action.

Always.


Do you think a person who isn't programmed to think this way can be changed?

You mean like a positive thinker? IDK.. it should come from within for a person.

Over the years I have realised that man only changes when he wants to...even if the whole world sits down to tell him sweetly - he will see only that which he wants to.

You said "he"

I meant mankind.or womankind 🙂

Sorry I meant human :p

No it's ok. It's about interpretation.

Do you use your husband as a basis for your response? I love learning new pov. I found it interesting.

I don't have a husband.. 😄

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.. Freudian slip? € Me neither. For what it's worth. Just curious.

Posted by Mohini

Posted by Palerio

Posted by Mohini

Posted by Palerio
I believe it's about having an aggressive mindset.

Why?

It's that eargness and fervour that we will really make you appreciate things in life, even the smallest ones.

I think the drive is instinctive. I don't think it can be taught.

It's either in you or not and its apparent.

But yes.

It comes naturally.

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Not taught but you can tap into it, we all have it to a certain extents.

Actually the people you would suspect have the lowest, and have struggled mightily early in their life, usually have the highest in the long run.

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Posted by OceanBoy88
Forgot about your last sentence in reference to life. It makes sense, constantly aiming towards victory can lead you there but i believe it would be more in the determination side. ...

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I agree with OceanBoy88. This scenario cannot be compared to the complexity of life. But concerning a motivational speech about "determination" it is good scenario.

Generally nobody knows what is life made for. Should we see it as racing? Are distractions recommended? When is better to slow down? when is better to take some travellers with me? what to do if at the target terrorists are waiting for me? what is the goal? to survive? to become relevant? to see as much as possible? to make a checkmark at every possible goal?

Can I lose and have a good ride too? can I be a loser in one scenario and winner in another one?

I think the problem of parables is the problem engineers and physicist have: how to model a whol thing into a simple phenomena and still let conjoining points to integrate them back into the complex phenomena we were studying. For Jesus's audience it can work. To teach children it can work. To produce an artistical creation, an intersting play, book or movie it can work. But that was it. I mean for me it parables are not satisfying anymore. yeah, it's just a problem I have.