and the little fishie came back, as always

me: leo
my lover: pisces

after 9 months with my lover, where the last several we spent fighting, we had a enormous fight. after a week to think things over he decided he wanted to leave the relationship. i told him repeatedly that i believed he was making a terrible mistake and he said he did not think so. i am not one to continue pining over an ex. my last two exes, the last time i ever spoke/saw them was the day i broke up with them. i warned my lover about this but he continued on about how he was sure he was making the right decision.

this past sunday, after two weeks, he called me! i didn't pick up and he left a sad message saying he didn't expect me to call again but he had wanted to see how i was doing. all of our fights have been due to his wishy washy behavior such as retreating but ALWAYS returning to me. i knew there was a chance he would come back but i was surprised it was so soon.

out of all my lovers, i know he is the one. i had resolved to let go of the relationship for a while and do as i normally do -- completely cut off my ties -- but he was the one i was going to save hope for which ive never done in the past.

i don't plan on calling him back. but id like some insight from some pisceans or those with experience with them as to what do. i fiercely believe he has to get out in the world and try his hand with other women and see what i meant to him. i'm not sure how to untangle myself emotionally though.

"We were at two different points in life, and compatibility takes this into account. Even if you two love each other, sometimes the way you persue things cause way too much conflict, making the relationship quite unstable."

That is the most emotionally mature thing I've every heard you say Branh.

As for the OP .. this woman makes it sound like the Pisces man is beneath her, and she obviously has no understanding of the Fish even after 9 months of relating. She also plays head games with him, so I can certainly see why he needs to retreat.

"my last two exes, the last time i ever spoke/saw them was the day i broke up with them. i warned my lover about this but he continued on about how he was sure he was making the right decision."


Warned him? You mean you throw up into your mans face about how if a lover leaves you because they need space to think about problems ... then you just write them off?

No mention "repeatedly" of any kind of loving feelings for him to let him know how dear he is to you .. just "repeatedly" told him he was making a mistake because other men who did it fucked up.

That doesn't make the Pisces, nor your other lovers look bad, my Leo friend .. it makes YOU look like a bitch. Prior to this copy, you said he took a week to think things out before making his decision, so it wasn't just a whim, a directionless snap decision ... he thought seriously about his life together with you ... whereas when you describe your role in the relationship, you sound very selfish, with no understanding into his nature at all.

"all of our fights have been due to his wishy washy behavior such as retreating but ALWAYS returning to me."

I thought your warning to him was that if he left, such as your exes that that was the last time you would ever see/speak to them again?

Oh, I see .. that was a threat, a head-game, to get him to stay, rather than allow him to live within his Fishiness of needing space to process his life. What a fucking bitch !!!!!

You just think your all that, don't you?

"i don't plan on calling him back. but id like some insight from some pisceans or those with experience with them as to what do. i fiercely believe he has to get out in the world and try his hand with other women and see what i meant to him."

wtf? You mean, he needs to get out there and see how all the other women in the world are lower than you, so he would realize that you are the queen? The Prize? Maybe then he would give you all of his attention when upset, instead of living within his reality of needing to dive to heal?

If your not planning on calling him, then what the hell are you in here bitching about now?

"i am not one to continue pining over an ex."

Then what the fuck are you in here whining about?

Queriamas -- I'm really sorry to say this, b/c it sounds like you really love this guy, but while there is a lot of grey area for Pisces in terms of things like our place in this world, there is really no grey area for us in matters of the heart or our beliefs. Although I can really only speak on my own behalf, Pisces seem to understand their emotions better than any other sign, and maybe it's because we spend so much time in soul-searching introspection and contemplation. We know ourselves and what we want, and sometimes, we just have to feel, on a subliminal level, that things are right. I have always known after the short period of a few months, whether someone was right for me and whether I could love the person. And once I had come to that conclusion, and ended the relationship, there was no second-guessing it or going back for me. The key to a Pisces' heart is to be genuine and a strong person with integrity ? to know what you want, and to assure us that we are it. Actually, one of the main reasons I ended these short term relationships were either b/c the person was superficial, dispassionate, needy, or not intellectually/emotionally challenging. And also because they didn't bring out anything in me -- if a Pisces isn't affected by someone they are in a relationship with, then something is really wrong.

I liked your comment mspisces! My pisces was also with a leo and I swear they would fight like the time. Of all the instances I know of leos and piscians staying together - I can only actually vouch for one that actually stayed together - and I think it was more for the kids they had together and the financial aspects as well. I mean I'd save this relationship a lot of trouble and tell ya the chances of these two signs working out are pretty slim. Both signs can be aggressive in their own way - but the Leo is more likely to want to dominate the Pisces influence in the relationship as well as other aspects. Piscians need room to breathe and time to themselves. This isn't something that's easy for the lion to deal with, as theyll most likely want to be in control of the relationship. I too was with a leo for about a year, my brother (pisces) couldn't stand her - and honestly I couldn't blame him cause all he wanted was freedom to express himself and she would turn around be completely oblivious to everyone in my family - even me after awhile - my pisces had the same problem with her leo ex. She'd try to express herself and it would in one ear and out the other - just totally blow her off and go on his merry way like everything in the world was perfect. My other leo friend was the same way - I'd tell him something and he'd just blow it off - its almost like when their minds are made up - there's no negotiating anything. I know communication is a big thing with pisces - it shows you appreciate what they have to say and you respect their self expression. Sometimes its the littlest things that can mean so much in any relationship.

he was very domineering. he was emotionally and physically abusive. his moon was in aries. unlike, much of what ive read of pisces, he was needed to control everything and was doing terribly invasive things such as constantly reading my emails and checking my phone.

p-angel, you are a very mean spirited person. i told that man i loved him everyday, made his dinner every night, even bathed and dressed him when he would come home from work -- like he was a child. he was beneath me. anyone who walks away from a love people search their whole lives for and never find is foolish and terrible. our last conversation he said, i dont care if i dont love the next girl as much as i love you or if i'm not as attracted to her, i just want something easy.

by the way, he called last nite. left a sad message saying he wanted me back. i ignored him. thanks to p-angel's nastiness it only confirms to me how mean spirited and selfish a pisces can be, also self righteous. it reminded me of how someone who told me he loved me so much easily through a bag of ice at my head an hour later. this is a duplicitious and terrible sign.

"p-angel, you are a very mean spirited person."


Not really .. it just appears that way to you because you're a control freak.

"even bathed and dressed him when he would come home from work -- like he was a child. he was beneath me. anyone who walks away from a love people search their whole lives for and never find is foolish and terrible."



lol .. said with pride, completely ignorant of how ignorant it makes you sound.

p-angel, how many men have you gone a-groveling back to? sucks to see you worthless ambivalent disgraceful self in him, does it? you'll die alone, happy valentine's day. i just got roses delivered. haha!!!!! so pathetic. pisces...

your cunt is drying up, dear. time to take your menopause meds.

Yeah, I know .. I shouldn't have made it public. That was wrong.

SF .. do you think the moral thing to do is to hide it, then?

I hid it anyway ... because it was wrong to do that.

Thanks for the reality check, SF 🙂

branh: "She left repeatedly, until she left one day and I didn't take her back. Whether or not she loved me is irrelevant, she knew I loved her, but she left anyway. Something of that nature completely undermines my feelings about the situation. And she would do so abruptly, I wasn't even worth a conversation or a talk before she did it. Things like that put a strain on your heart, and makes the relationship uneasy. If someone leaves you repeatedly, it is because it is in their nature to do so. And maybe you are not the person they want to be consistent with. "

This definitely sums up my feelings about my situation. Amazing that it's the action of a Pisces in a relationship with a Virgo. I think that the repeated swimming away IS a sign that the two are not right together.

PA, I know that you think that the Pisces are taking breaks to regroup and while I am sure that happens just not excessively and for long amounts of time. It's a sign that they're not happy and want out, it's their concern and love that brings them back but perhaps it should just be as a friend that they come back in these cases.

OP, I think everyone needs more details from the message he left to know if it was frienship he came back for or a relationship. I actually, believe she meant that she told him what happens when exes decide to leave her for good not when they need a break. At least that's how I took it. I think it's healthy to warn someone of the consequences of their actions. Just as you would let them know how their actions makes you feel. It's all communication and communication is key.

Man this turned really ugly. In my own zodiac analysis, I will say that Leo's are known for being a tad bit self-centered. I have two aunt Leos one of whom pretty much thinks she is high and mighty in so that she made me hold her 2yr old son in family photos at our reunion. She also had to be dress to the tee that day and eventually was uncomfortable in her outfit. I took so many pictures of her that day that I have no clue what she was trying to achieve. My other aunt who is Leo August (the other July) is nothing like that. She has her moments but she knows when its time to shine and she doesn't put anyone down or lift herself so high that everyone else has no choice but to feel lower. She's been a cool aunt for years.

With that said, Pisces are KNOWN for holding in their emotions and definitely displaying, saying one thing and eventually doing another. It's like you guys don't like confrontation which is understandable when it can turn violent but when it's constructive I don't see why fret about getting your hands dirty. However, I accept that everyone needs to do things the way they see fit that's why I don't have a problem letting go and letting be.

PA, I have read where you've said before that we don't understand the nature of Pisces. I will say I don't. Other than the (typical) characteristics/traits that are in the zodiac readings I was not prepared for everything I learned with all three Pisces men in my past. What's the gist of it all when it comes to getting along with a Pisces. Gall, mentioned knowing within months that its not going to work (sounds like my Pisces) but its not something that I saw coming so if one doesnt know ahead of time that things are not pleasing to Pisces how can one get a chance to work on it? Or is it an "either you have it or you don't" kind of deal?

Queri, maybe 9mos of back and forth and fighting was too much for your Pisces and after taking a week to think about it he realized that its not going to work. Coming back to you to try the relationship again probably means that you two became enough to each other that starting over with someone new doesn't seem worth the journey if all he has to do is come back to you and work it out (again).

My Pisces ex, came back to me after 16 days to get clarity on why I said and did some things the last time we spent time together. I think if he had liked my answers he would have tried to work things out with me but he didn't so he moved on. Which is pretty much what probably happened after the week of thinking your Pisces did. They gave us one last chance we didn't come through (in their opinion) and they moved on.

The most I can say to you is for you to realize that you and him were not good together (all of that fighting and off and on) and let go and let it be.