Hello Fishes, I Need Advice

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So I've known this Pisces girl for about a year now, and we became friends quite fast but it wasn't until recently that we became really close friends. We always have super interesting conversations and we share many things in common. I'm very easy going around her (I'm already quite easy going, but even more so) and I lift up her mood; we sort of complement each other. Basically, she's the first best female friend I've ever had. Now, a while ago, after my last breakup, I made the decision to stop dating for some time, obviously for personal reasons. She knows this.

But lately, she's been giving me signs that she likes me. For example, the last time we watched a movie at my house, we were laughing about something and when we stopped, she maintained eye contact without saying a word, looking a little hypnotized and distracted as if she... well, liked me. And then she appeared to wake up, in other words, finally reacted by removing her focus from my eyes and subtly smiled as if she just realized what she did was somewhat obvious and felt a bit embarrassed. I smiled back in a playful, interested yet confused manner. It was a natural reaction as this was the first incident and I was quite intrigued. I'm facing many situations similar to that one, and they're increasing with time.

I'm afraid she's going to ask me out or admit that she likes me. We share many things in common, but we are very different at the same time, perhaps even opposites in some aspects (not in a good way). Even if I wasn't trying to avoid relationships, I can see how this wouldn't work out. She is very indecisive, hates confrontation, she also tends to sugar coat the truth, lie, or do anything to avoid direct confrontation or accepting and dealing with harsh or semi-harsh truths, even if she knows how things really are. I'm usually easy going but when this is done in a relationship I get heated up in no time and get a pushy, in-your-face attitude. Not a good combination.

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I hate to admit this, but the possibility of this being partially my fault exists. I'm very uninhibited, get excited easily, especially when I talk to her because our conversations are so interesting, exciting, and we understand each other so well. I also tend to appear flirty with all girls, including her. Many times I don't try to flirt and I catch myself doing it. It has never been a problem since I don't do this on purpose so it doesn't look like I'm actually hitting on someone, but it's still there. She's an attractive girl but I never had sex with her or purposely tried to flirt with her. That is because I value our friendship a lot and don't want to spoil things.

She's a very sensitive person and I've considered being honest yet gentle in telling her that I'm temporarily not interested in anything coming from the romantic department, suggesting she is interested in me. Though I think that may be too harsh and make the relationship between us rather awkward or possibly even ruin it. I've also considered avoiding, ignoring, or acting indifferently to her ways of showing her attraction towards me, but she's clearly not a fool and that would probably hurt her too, having an negative impact on our friendship. What I've been doing so far is just reacting in a friendly way to her hints, but making sure it doesn't look like the feelings are mutual. I've also considered avoiding her for a while but she'd notice that me putting distance is not a coincidence. I just want this to stop and I don't know what to do. She's a hot girl, and if she keeps pushing it we could end up in bed and that would damage our friendship permanently since I don't want a romantic relationship with her and she would probably be hurt because of that.

Any ideas of what to do?

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Seems to me that you're jumping the gun just a little bit. She very well may be into you, but from the one incident you described, I don't think that's enough to garner that opinion. As a pisces she could have easily just been lost in her own corner of the world and you happened to be in her field of vision. That being said - you were there, you know better than I do!

If you are not looking for anything relationship wise from anywhere right now, I'd keep throwing that around (not directed at her, or to suggest that she might be interested in you, but just to be upfront with where you are at in your life). I say this because I believe honesty is always the best policy, and being upfront is the easiest way to be honest. She may "know" where you stand already, but sometimes it takes repetition for it to actually be understood. You have to stand firm on enjoying the friendship, but that's all you have room for in your life right now.

Secondly, IF you truly value the friendship - and do NOT want it to go sour, be a MAN - and don't sleep with her. It's easy. Just don't do it.
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ng with fire here.

Posted by SagittarianMind
she maintained eye contact without saying a word, looking a little hypnotized and distracted as if she... well, liked me.



yes, she probably likes your essence...'hypnotised', huh. meaning she herself probably doesn't know if she likes you. she's probably entertained the idea, and that's it.

you've contradicted yourself...

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We always have super interesting conversations and we share many things in common. I'm very easy going around her (I'm already quite easy going, but even more so) and I lift up her mood; we sort of complement each other.



Even if I wasn't trying to avoid relationships, I can see how this wouldn't work out.



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She's a hot girl, and if she keeps pushing it we could end up in bed

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what is she pushing? meaningful eye contact? come on, sag. you're interested in her. this doesn't read like a friendship...it reads like you're sizing her up. and that you want her to want you. you sound confused and she knows...i doubt she'd come out and say anything, but there it is. the fact you've already considered and run through a list of all the problems you'd have together relationship wise speaks volumes. i'd say you should get real with yourself before worrying about her end.

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I've considered being honest yet gentle in telling her that I'm temporarily not interested in anything coming from the romantic department, suggesting she is interested in me. Though I think that may be too harsh and make the relationship between us rather awkward or possibly even ruin it.



how is that harsh? if that's how you feel, fair play to you. i'm sure she's not a pining sap, and if she does have feelings for you, she'll come around. best to be honest. you're not breaking up with her, remember? you're assuming she has feelings for you that you don't share 🙂


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That is because I value our friendship a lot and don't want to spoil things.

she's clearly not a fool and that would probably hurt her too, having an negative impact on our friendship.

since I don't want a romantic relationship with her and she would probably be hurt because of that.

Any ideas of what to do?



you're also waaaay too invested in her feelings. it should be easy for you, you don't want her like that-end of. this turmoil suggests there's more to this than you're willing to face.

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I can see how this wouldn't work out. She is very indecisive, hates confrontation, she also tends to sugar coat the truth, lie, or do anything to avoid direct confrontation or accepting and dealing with harsh or semi-harsh truths, even if she knows how things really are.

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oh, that was such a sag moment. so judgemental! towards someone you've considered dating, and dismissed, in your head. you've basically had a hypothetical relationship with her...in your head. it's not exactly a heartbreak story. nothing's been established, or vocalised. you're working with assumptions...be careful with that.
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Posted by deezie
Seems to me that you're jumping the gun just a little bit. She very well may be into you, but from the one incident you described, I don't think that's enough to garner that opinion. As a pisces she could have easily just been lost in her own corner of the world and you happened to be in her field of vision.

I believe honesty is always the best policy, and being upfront is the easiest way to be honest. She may "know" where you stand already, but sometimes it takes repetition for it to actually be understood.

Secondly, IF you truly value the friendship - and do NOT want it to go sour, be a MAN - and don't sleep with her. It's easy. Just don't do it.



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Posted by deezie
Seems to me that you're jumping the gun just a little bit. She very well may be into you, but from the one incident you described, I don't think that's enough to garner that opinion. As a pisces she could have easily just been lost in her own corner of the world and you happened to be in her field of vision. That being said - you were there, you know better than I do!

If you are not looking for anything relationship wise from anywhere right now, I'd keep throwing that around (not directed at her, or to suggest that she might be interested in you, but just to be upfront with where you are at in your life). I say this because I believe honesty is always the best policy, and being upfront is the easiest way to be honest. She may "know" where you stand already, but sometimes it takes repetition for it to actually be understood. You have to stand firm on enjoying the friendship, but that's all you have room for in your life right now.

Secondly, IF you truly value the friendship - and do NOT want it to go sour, be a MAN - and don't sleep with her. It's easy. Just don't do it.



That's not the only incident. And when I stated that similar incidents occurred I was referring to similar in the sense that they all show that she likes me. Not that all incidents were only about eye contact.

You are right, that's a good advice. I'm going to start throwing it around. It's not that I don't want to be honest, I guess I was just trying to exhaust the possibility of keeping our friendship intact, that's why I came here looking for advice.

I do value the friendship. And because I am a MAN is why I don't find it easy to resist sex. It's not easy, it sounds easy. But you are right, I should do the right thing and avoid such disaster. That's what I'm going to do. If she takes this too far I'm going to have to confront her and be honest to avoid sleeping with her. And that's only if throwing around the fact that I don't want a relationship doesn't work.





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you're playing with fire here.

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she maintained eye contact without saying a word, looking a little hypnotized and distracted as if she... well, liked me.



yes, she probably likes your essence...'hypnotised', huh. meaning she herself probably doesn't know if she likes you. she's probably entertained the idea, and that's it.

you've contradicted yourself...

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We always have super interesting conversations and we share many things in common. I'm very easy going around her (I'm already quite easy going, but even more so) and I lift up her mood; we sort of complement each other.



Even if I wasn't trying to avoid relationships, I can see how this wouldn't work out.



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She's a hot girl, and if she keeps pushing it we could end up in bed



what is she pushing? meaningful eye contact? come on, sag. you're interested in her. this doesn't read like a friendship...it reads like you're sizing her up. and that you want her to want you. you sound confused and she knows...i doubt she'd come out and say anything, but there it is. the fact you've already considered and run through a list of all the problems you'd have together relationship wise speaks volumes. i'd say you should get real with yourself before worrying about her end.

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I'm not so sure about that. For how long can she entertain the idea? She likes me and she's purposely making it seem more obvious.

My statements are slightly inclined to appear contradictory but they're not. They actually make perfect sense. Yeah, we kind of complement each other but only in certain aspects and that's one of the reasons we're really good friends (note I wrote "sort of" in my original post). But not in the most important aspects that would make us compatible in an actual romantic relationship. I expressed that in the second line you quoted with the intend to demonstrate contradiction. Sure, I find her attractive and a part of me would love to sleep with her but I'm not going to do that. And I was rather horny and bit intoxicated when I said I might not be able to reject sex.

But like I said before, it's not just about the eye contact. You are seeing what you want to see. Just because we have a connection doesn't mean I'm interested in her. And interested in what sense? As a friend, yes I am. Physically, I admit I've been more interested in her since she started giving me signs that she likes me. As a potential partner in a relationship, NO. I usually can tell when I'm being irrational and I'm being objective here, I don't want her to want me. I'm thinking long-term wise. It's inevitable not to consider how a relationship would be when someone you find attractive and know quite well starts hitting on you. But you're making it seem like I gave a considerable amount of thought to it, when I simply deduced that instantly, and elaborated more while writing my post. I think I can see why you'd think that, though.

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I've considered being honest yet gentle in telling her that I'm temporarily not interested in anything coming from the romantic department, suggesting she is interested in me. Though I think that may be too harsh and make the relationship between us rather awkward or possibly even ruin it.



how is that harsh? if that's how you feel, fair play to you. i'm sure she's not a pining sap, and if she does have feelings for you, she'll come around. best to be honest. you're not breaking up with her, remember? you're assuming she has feelings for you that you don't share 🙂


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That is because I value our friendship a lot and don't want to spoil things.

she's clearly not a fool and that would probably hurt her too, having an negative impact on our friendship.

since I don't want a romantic relationship with her and she would probably be hurt because of that.

Any ideas of what to do?



you're also waaaay too invested in her feelings. it should be easy for you, you don't want her like that-end of. this turmoil suggests there's more to this than you're willing to face.

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I can see how this wouldn't work out. She is very indecisive, hates confrontation, she also tends to sugar coat the truth, lie, or do anything to avoid direct confrontation or accepting and dealing with harsh or semi-harsh truths, even if she knows how things really are.



oh, that was such a sag moment. so judgemental! towards someone you've considered dating, and dismissed, in your head. you've basically had a hypothetical relationship with her...in your head. it's not exactly a heartbreak story. nothing's been established, or vocalised. you're working with assumptions...be careful with that.
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I'm not so sure about that. For how long can she entertain the idea? She likes me and she's purposely making it seem more obvious.

My statements are slightly inclined to appear contradictory but they're not. They actually make perfect sense. Yeah, we kind of complement each other but only in certain aspects and that's one of the reasons we're really good friends (note I wrote "sort of" in my original post). But not in the most important aspects that would make us compatible in an actual romantic relationship. I expressed that in the second line you quoted with the intend to demonstrate contradiction. Sure, I find her attractive and a part of me would love to sleep with her but I'm not going to do that. And I was rather horny and bit intoxicated when I said I might not be able to reject sex.

But like I said before, it's not just about the eye contact. You are seeing what you want to see. Just because we have a connection doesn't mean I'm interested in her. And interested in what sense? As a friend, yes I am. Physically, I admit I've been more interested in her since she started giving me signs that she likes me. As a potential partner in a relationship, NO. I usually can tell when I'm being irrational and I'm being objective here, I don't want her to want me. I'm thinking long-term wise. It's inevitable not to consider how a relationship would be when someone you find attractive and know quite well starts hitting on you. But you're making it seem like I gave a considerable amount of thought to it, when I simply deduced that instantly, and elaborated more while writing my post. I think I can see why you'd think that, though.



i assume this is directed at me? you seem overly defensive. just because something is contradictory doesn't mean it doesn't make sense...it means it paints a different picture to what's being intended.

i'm not making it seem like you gave a considerable amount of thought to it. you are. your initial post, your comments thereafter...a lot of thought over one little girly friend who might have the wrong end of the stick?

i love you sags. you're all about truth-just not when it comes to the truth of your own feelings. you'd rather have this prototype and if something doesn't measure up to it, it's dismissed-without further consideration. even if you spite yourself in the process.

the signs/feelings from her yo
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Okay, since I already explained what I'm doing to do and why I haven't confronted her with the truth I guess that can be applied here, too.

Yes, I don't want her like that. But I was trying to find a solution that wouldn't damage our friendship to any extent, or at least anything close to that. Being honest to her face might give me good or bad results, more likely bad cause our friendship would suffer to some degree. But then again, she could appreciate and thank me for me honesty.

Yes, so judgmental, but most likely true and quite accurate. But hey, aren't we constantly judging people in our minds, and many times people we barely know or don't know at all? We always work with assumptions.
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I'm not so sure about that. For how long can she entertain the idea? She likes me and she's purposely making it seem more obvious.

My statements are slightly inclined to appear contradictory but they're not. They actually make perfect sense. Yeah, we kind of complement each other but only in certain aspects and that's one of the reasons we're really good friends (note I wrote "sort of" in my original post). But not in the most important aspects that would make us compatible in an actual romantic relationship. I expressed that in the second line you quoted with the intend to demonstrate contradiction. Sure, I find her attractive and a part of me would love to sleep with her but I'm not going to do that. And I was rather horny and bit intoxicated when I said I might not be able to reject sex.

But like I said before, it's not just about the eye contact. You are seeing what you want to see. Just because we have a connection doesn't mean I'm interested in her. And interested in what sense? As a friend, yes I am. Physically, I admit I've been more interested in her since she started giving me signs that she likes me. As a potential partner in a relationship, NO. I usually can tell when I'm being irrational and I'm being objective here, I don't want her to want me. I'm thinking long-term wise. It's inevitable not to consider how a relationship would be when someone you find attractive and know quite well starts hitting on you. But you're making it seem like I gave a considerable amount of thought to it, when I simply deduced that instantly, and elaborated more while writing my post. I think I can see why you'd think that, though.

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i assume this is directed at me? you seem overly defensive. just because something is contradictory doesn't mean it doesn't make sense...it means it paints a different picture to what's being intended.

i'm not making it seem like you gave a considerable amount of thought to it. you are. your initial post, your comments thereafter...a lot of thought over one little girly friend who might have the wrong end of the stick?

i love you sags. you're all about truth-just not when it comes to the truth of your own feelings. you'd rather have this prototype and if something doesn't measure up to it, it's dismissed-without further consid
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Ahh, I seem defensive? My bad, it must be that Aries ascendant. It always happens. 😢

I wasn't sure where you were trying to get by stating that some of my lines appeared contradictory. Just gave an explanation to make sure you understood, just in case you didn't.

No, I didn't make it seem like I gave it a lot of thought. I'm giving a lot of thought to the whole situation, not to how a relationship between her and me would be.

I'm trying to be truthful about my feelings. I've noticed I didn't mention many important points and that's creating misunderstandings.

As for my feelings for her. Recently, I'm developing a crush on her and that's something I want to avoid. But that's way after she started giving me hints that she's interested in me. Usually when people like someone, they try to find signs that indicate the other person likes them back, or vice versa, if one is rather pessimistic. I've been trying to avoid that and any type of wishful thinking.


Just trying to be as honest as possible with myself. What I really want is things to be like before. =/
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Ahh, I seem defensive? My bad, it must be that Aries ascendant. It always happens. 😢

I wasn't sure where you were trying to get by stating that some of my lines appeared contradictory. Just gave an explanation to make sure you understood, just in case you didn't.

No, I didn't make it seem like I gave it a lot of thought. I'm giving a lot of thought to the whole situation, not to how a relationship between her and me would be.

I'm trying to be truthful about my feelings. I've noticed I didn't mention many important points and that's creating misunderstandings.

As for my feelings for her. Recently, I'm developing a crush on her and that's something I want to avoid. But that's way after she started giving me hints that she's interested in me. Usually when people like someone, they try to find signs that indicate the other person likes them back, or vice versa, if one is rather pessimistic. I've been trying to avoid that and any type of wishful thinking.


Just trying to be as honest as possible with myself. What I really want is things to be like before. =/



ahh, there's that sag honesty, i was waiting for that 😛 so what's the deal, you have a crush on her, she may have a crush on you...where's the problem?

you don't have to be textbook compatible for a situation to work out...it's often more challenging when you're different to each other. and yes, i hear the pessimistic vibe...however your feelings are developing. so now what?

and i know what you mean about wanting things to be like before 😢 of course it's tricky with friends. but it's an excellent base for a relationship, imo
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There's more than one problem. I'm trying to avoid being led by my emotions and don't jump in relationships. I'm taking a break from relationships to detach myself from that constant need to be in a relationship to replace an ex or fill an emptiness. Also to think clearly and choose someone very carefully. The last relationship with a Scorpio was a disaster, it turned into a love/hate relationship, I had many similar relationships like that, but that one in particular was the most unhealthy one. I'm usually attracted to emotional types, and I'm very emotional myself (which I hate, even though I can hide it) so in turn I tend to attract water signs or emotionally intense people, on an emotional level. I'm conscious of my attraction or their attraction towards me, but not when I attract them to my life.

Secondly, I'm not someone she would NOT want to date. She is emotional, sensitive and gentle, and I am emotional too, but very, very sensitive, defensive, aggressive (not physically violent towards girls), prideful, and vindictive. My Scorpio moon shows up in relationships. She doesn't know that side of me. I'm trying to be healthier in relationships by being very careful and taking things extremely slow. Right now I'm just trying to stay away from relationships and get to know myself better to fix some of the bull.. I have going on, lol. Sad but true.

Just trying to avoid the recipe for disaster. Sure, I can provide her endless amounts of emotion, love, and passion but not without a good dose of unhealthy emotional baggage and scary psycho tendencies.

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r of pisces-sag unions 😄

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There's more than one problem. I'm trying to avoid being led by my emotions and don't jump in relationships. I'm taking a break from relationships to detach myself from that constant need to be in a relationship to replace an ex or fill an emptiness. Also to think clearly and choose someone very carefully.



that's a good idea. when you're ready, you'll be with someone for the right reasons

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Secondly, I'm not someone she would NOT want to date. She is emotional, sensitive and gentle, and I am emotional too, but very, very sensitive, defensive, aggressive (not physically violent towards girls), prideful, and vindictive. My Scorpio moon shows up in relationships. She doesn't know that side of me. I'm trying to be healthier in relationships by being very careful and taking things extremely slow. Right now I'm just trying to stay away from relationships and get to know myself better to fix some of the bull.. I have going on, lol. Sad but true.

Just trying to avoid the recipe for disaster. Sure, I can provide her endless amounts of emotion, love, and passion but not without a good dose of unhealthy emotional baggage and scary psycho tendencies.

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hello?!! she's a pisces, she can handle your scorp moon 😛 and you're sensing interest from her...nah, but don't fall into that trap of shooting yourself down before you've even taken flight. so far everything is hypothetical. so, don't sleep with her unless you start dating...have some boundaries. nurture your friendship 🙂 wait things out till you're ready to date again...