How?
This topic was created in the Pisces forum by haffo on Saturday, February 3, 2007 and has 27 replies.
How can one belive in one thing strongly and belive that others have the right to belive in other things?
If a person has made a decision about one then it's ultimate for him/her. Other options seems useless for them.
This does not make any sense.
If a person has made a decision about one then it's ultimate for him/her. Other options seems useless for them.
This does not make any sense.
We all are together because of beliefs. If beliefs contradict then we are not together. If we are not together then how we gonna stand each other?
Everyone's spirit has it's own desire, cravings and callings in life. We are here to discover our own truths...'and sometimes, just sometimes we may just find that 'other' special spirit that merges beautifully with our own.'
Mystic fish
I mean no disrespect, but this is very childish. Since a very long time the human society is evolving. Lots of good or bad things has been experienced and good ones has been tried to be chosen. Now, if someone comes and starts talking about things that already has been experienced and found foolish, I would take this person as a kid who wants a toy that parents cannot afford.
At least it should have any relation with previous infor or make any sense right? Just because someone bullshits and thinks that he has that right, we cant just stare at them because they have that right.
I mean no disrespect, but this is very childish. Since a very long time the human society is evolving. Lots of good or bad things has been experienced and good ones has been tried to be chosen. Now, if someone comes and starts talking about things that already has been experienced and found foolish, I would take this person as a kid who wants a toy that parents cannot afford.
At least it should have any relation with previous infor or make any sense right? Just because someone bullshits and thinks that he has that right, we cant just stare at them because they have that right.
All people.
haffo, what i said wasn't childish, perhaps i didn't understand your question too fully.
Like jackdoniel said, humans have different perspectives and opinions in life, different stands, we can't stop it, we can respect it if we want for what it is worth, but at the same time we don't have to believe in it either. We are humans, we have fallices. But i think some truths are more blatent than others.
Like jackdoniel said, humans have different perspectives and opinions in life, different stands, we can't stop it, we can respect it if we want for what it is worth, but at the same time we don't have to believe in it either. We are humans, we have fallices. But i think some truths are more blatent than others.
Thank god someone has posed an intelligent question on these boards..Thanks Haffo! I will post something in response to your question a little later..got to run to work.
Your examples are true Jackdoniel.
Then answer this question please:
What do you think about country defence? Why do people become soldiers? Because they are getting paid?
Then answer this question please:
What do you think about country defence? Why do people become soldiers? Because they are getting paid?
Mystic fish
Perhaps we can have different beliefs as long as they don't fight with each other. I mean we belive in things withing some tolerance limits. Beliefs that does not have serious importance or damage to society, can survive. Other ones are opposed.
As Jackdoniel has said, being with prostitute on the same street does not mean that you belive in prostitution. You probably dislike prostitution, but it's not life threatening for you. You can ignore it. Altough you might dislike the prostitution, you might try to look like tolerant because of the other reasons too. For example: If it gives you extra points or respect among people (kinda look I can tolerate therefore I'm modern etc etc). But in reality you do not share the same belief. And you are distant from them, even tought you repeat to yourself the otherwise.
Then how can a person build a ballance? Belive to one and ignore others...
Perhaps we can have different beliefs as long as they don't fight with each other. I mean we belive in things withing some tolerance limits. Beliefs that does not have serious importance or damage to society, can survive. Other ones are opposed.
As Jackdoniel has said, being with prostitute on the same street does not mean that you belive in prostitution. You probably dislike prostitution, but it's not life threatening for you. You can ignore it. Altough you might dislike the prostitution, you might try to look like tolerant because of the other reasons too. For example: If it gives you extra points or respect among people (kinda look I can tolerate therefore I'm modern etc etc). But in reality you do not share the same belief. And you are distant from them, even tought you repeat to yourself the otherwise.
Then how can a person build a ballance? Belive to one and ignore others...
Can you truly and wholeheartedly ignore?
"Like jackdoniel said, humans have different perspectives and opinions in life, different stands, we can't stop it, we can respect it if we want for what it is worth, but at the same time we don't have to believe in it either."
Do you wholeheartedly ignore them? Can you? This seems to be impossible for me.
How do you do it?
Do you wholeheartedly ignore them? Can you? This seems to be impossible for me.
How do you do it?
"I say it's a necessary body in a country."
Necessary in what way?
Necessary in what way?
Then let's say if attackers take interest in part of your country in where your house does not present and therefore you have nothing to lose, then you will sit and wait for things to sort out for themselves?
"Respect is key..."
A proper belief is required.
A proper belief is required.
Perhaps Jackdoniel has a point. I'm not sure about it yet though. The argument of his seems to be strong.
Perhaps the only thing that unites people, in core, only needs.
Perhaps the only thing that unites people, in core, only needs.
Hmm tanya023.
This might be a good topic. I'll open a new one.
This might be a good topic. I'll open a new one.
Tanya023
I think I can answer this question.
There is no worth of good when there is no same amount of bad to counter it.
We can know worth of something only by comparing it with it's opposite.
I think I can answer this question.
There is no worth of good when there is no same amount of bad to counter it.
We can know worth of something only by comparing it with it's opposite.
Yes.
And choise is always there to choise. Either up or down.
And choise is always there to choise. Either up or down.
I believe quite strongly in some things, but I could be wrong in my beliefs, it has happen once or twice! I also like listening to others major influences, perspectives and responses, gives me something to analyse.
I can ignore if others beliefs disagree with mine, because I am inwardly focused. I am too busy concentrating on making myself a better person. I guess when I am perfect I will start working on others, probably won't be anytime soon though.
I can ignore if others beliefs disagree with mine, because I am inwardly focused. I am too busy concentrating on making myself a better person. I guess when I am perfect I will start working on others, probably won't be anytime soon though.
not so far-removed from what i said earlier..lol 'we are here to discover our own truths...
We work to be individuals, but at the same time, we don't want to be 'different'. People seem to unite for many different reasons, race (incuding family, politics and religion. What I don't understand is human's need to conquer, to take something that's not theirs and then necessitates the need for an armed force. You also have the sheep mentality or just plain apathy, most of us are guilty of that in some respect. Why has it taken until now to suddenly realise that we need to do something green with our planet? Will it take for the ocean to be depleted before we stop over-fishing. Why am I sitting here typing about it and not really doing anything. Too busy just trying to pay the bills.
"not so far-removed from what i said earlier..lol 'we are here to discover our own truths..."
To be perfectly honest, I'm not sure what you mean.
To be perfectly honest, I'm not sure what you mean.
"What I don't understand is human's need to conquer, to take something that's not theirs and then necessitates the need for an armed force."
When someone has something and other does not...they need army. To take it...
We still need the army in our world, because things are not in abudance yet. When you will have 2 cars and I will have 3, then we won't need army to take it from each other, because we already have them in abudance.
If we want to stop crap like this, we have to learn how to share.
When someone has something and other does not...they need army. To take it...
We still need the army in our world, because things are not in abudance yet. When you will have 2 cars and I will have 3, then we won't need army to take it from each other, because we already have them in abudance.
If we want to stop crap like this, we have to learn how to share.
"Why has it taken until now to suddenly realise that we need to do something green with our planet? Will it take for the ocean to be depleted before we stop over-fishing. Why am I sitting here typing about it and not really doing anything. Too busy just trying to pay the bills."
You actually answered your question yourself. You won't be thinking this unless you are too busy with actual life.
Actually what I do find the most stupid, is that there is alot of things in our world in abudance and we still fight over it.
Why this abudance is not being given to people....because we sacrifice thousands for one. This is the rule of money.
We can't feed everyone? Bullshit..
We can't build homes for everyone? Bullshit..
We can't create job's for everyone? Bullshit..
Why we don't do? Because someone has to earn money from this first. BULLSHITTTTT!
You actually answered your question yourself. You won't be thinking this unless you are too busy with actual life.
Actually what I do find the most stupid, is that there is alot of things in our world in abudance and we still fight over it.
Why this abudance is not being given to people....because we sacrifice thousands for one. This is the rule of money.
We can't feed everyone? Bullshit..
We can't build homes for everyone? Bullshit..
We can't create job's for everyone? Bullshit..
Why we don't do? Because someone has to earn money from this first. BULLSHITTTTT!
Greed, money, capitalism. But if we share everything, where is the fairness in some who just want a hand out and not willing to pull their weight, in some shape or form. There are some jobs that nobody wants to do. Just how do you create the perfect world.
Skin
Well Hitler had a great method for that:
He burned them!
...
LOL!
Ok, on serious note; good point, I need to think about that.
Well Hitler had a great method for that:
He burned them!
...
LOL!
Ok, on serious note; good point, I need to think about that.
I don't like to think the worst of people, by I don't understand why when someone is given an opportunity they just take. I understand that you can't change others, you can only change yourself and hope that this example influences others. But again, hearing people crying because they had a difficult upbringing only goes so far. Why can some people over such obstacles to lead good or even great lives. I am trying really hard to concentrate on my own faults and hopefully influence another person positively oneday.
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