How can you tell a Pisces is lying?

It's more of a curiosity than anything....

I have a friend, well..not really a friend..about as friendly as a pisces person can be to another person, as in I can talk to him online and he answers back in kind.

Well anyway, the last time I've talked tot his person he was married, moved to another country and after a certain natural disaster, we lost contact with each other. The next time I look him up, I see his wife on facebook posting pictures of a new baby that obviously does not look like his child. I learn through mutual friends that they broke up.

Now, I'm not trying to 'get this out of him'. but word on the street is that since then, he's been going in and out of the country going on walkabout and whatnot and that's cool..that's great. He also frequents a forum that he's created and also has generated revenue and between this and his online consulting website business, I'm thinking he'd at least have enough to live...for the most part I think he moved back in with his mother's house..not sure.

But anyway, the question, I've talked to this guy, several times, ask him if he's in the city, or if he would like to hangout, or just to overall see how he is, because this is a friend I care about...he tells me he usually in and out of the country, (and that he really misses home before the storm and missing how life used to be.) He doesn't go into any detail aobut that and I respect that..we don't talk about his divorce...i respect that too...most conversations are about the current, like what countries he's been..if he's writing lately, if he's taking pictures..talking about the past..how he's doing..i felt that these topics would be 'fair game.' and not invasive..I tend to throw ideas out and see if he likes them or not.

So he answers them back in his typical subtle matter, yah he takes pics..but he doesn't have anything online, yah he has stories but he's too busy to share at the moment...I can respect that, but there are certain things that don't make sense to me.

When he says he's out of the country, he actually keeps a consistent posting on his website which makes me wonder..is he actually telling the truth? I undestand that one can actually visually surf outside of the country but there are countries that he's gone to that makes me wonder if it's possible to be able to have a consistent online access 24 hrs at all times...it's weird.

Now of course, I would NEVER in a million years go at him and say he's lying...but could he, a

I've actually communicate with him by suggesting movies....that sounds weird, I know..but that was a 'thing' him and I used to do...non-dating..just go check a movie, and then catch him online.

The last movie I suggested he go watch was "Up in the Air' because I felt that george clooney's character perfectly described how I saw him...I'm still waiting on a response.

I'm throwing this out there becasue I'm curious to how you guys communicate, it's interesting..I got cut off earlier, but what I've been said earlier is if lying a typical 'pisces' thing..or is this is just something I should leave alone.

Oh and it's weird that he constantly says he's busy, but also when he does talk he always constantly says he rarely has the motivation to finish what he's started..it's a bit puzzling to me of how it could be both, because he if he doesn't have any motivation, what is he doing with the rest of his time?

Posted by Lena282
Can't help you there, I'm really gullible and believe everything anyone tells me😛 however...

Posted by TheBeautifulStruggle
but what I've been said earlier is if lying a typical 'pisces' thing..or is this is just something I should leave alone.

3 reasons why a typical Pisces might lie



1. To protect our privacy(or ourselves)
example: creepy man ask if I live in the neighbourhood - I say "no, I'm just visiting someone"...actually I was on my way home😛

2. To protect your feelings
3. Self deception (this doesn't really involve anyone else)


I'm guessing if he is lying it's #1, so yeah best to leave it be.

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Now is that a typical pisces MO that everyone is deemed untrustworthy..or does this actually have a strict criteria...what I find bad, is that he's the type of person that has no problem or actually encourages listening to everyone talk about their problems..but he doesn't do in kind because I guess he feels it makes him 'weak' somehow.

That's probably the only thing I find worriesome about him..I know for me, if I kept taking on the burdens of other people's woes..yet having no outlet of my own..it'd bring ME down. Maybe that's why most pisces are artists? the 'talking outlet' doesn't really work for them?

MO = modus operandi, basically the way you operate.

Posted by Lena282

Posted by TheBeautifulStruggle
MO = modus operandi, basically the way you operate.

Oh ok I didn't know that!

Is that what's deemed untrustworthy? Possibly. There's loads of Pisces players who cheat and lie through their teeth and that's given all of us a bad name.

It's an unfortunate stereotype but oh well.

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I don't think you're understanding what I'm worried about..I don't really care if he's really lying to me, sure it's a blow to my ego that he wouldn't think I was 'worthy' enough to hear his stories and whatnot, but I'll live...what I'm worried about is that...

-He just divorced a woman that was literally the love of his life...he moved clear cross the world for this woman and it didn't work out..and people are saying the breakup was mutual with no hard feelings but the timeline doesn't make sense for me, and I just feeling that this guy is more 'hurt' than what people are saying.

-If he is lying..is he more lying to himself that 'self-deception' part you were talking about...and if that is the case..is it healthy to be that way?


Basically I would really not want to be worried for this guy...just looking to understand, will this guy be alright?

Posted by Lena282

3 reasons why a typical Pisces might lie



1. To protect our privacy(or ourselves)
example: creepy man ask if I live in the neighbourhood - I say "no, I'm just visiting someone"...actually I was on my way home😛

2. To protect your feelings
3. Self deception (this doesn't really involve anyone else)


I'm guessing if he is lying it's #1, so yeah best to leave it be.

that's why you're lying...not how to tell if you're lying.

if it's too good to be true, it is.

go into it assuming he's lying to you, that way you won't be surprised when he is.

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Posted by TheBeautifulStruggle
Basically I would really not want to be worried for this guy...just looking to understand, will this guy be alright?

Do you want the truth or a beautiful lie? 😛


Every Pisces deals with trauma differently. Hopefully he'll be the typical Pisces and bounce back but it will take time.

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Point taken.

What is consdiered a white lie to you?

A white lie to me would be that I say "i'm fine." when I'm really not.

A white lie wouldn't be for me "I'm doing fabulous,I'm traveling around the world doing all sort of shit and my life is so amazing right now and I can't really explain it to you because I'm just super busy, always."

If the above is what a pisces considers a white lie..well than, damn...that's pretty interesting.

My little Pisces kiddo lies with a straight face. How you can draw the 'truth' out is to keep asking questions. Then lies come to light. Harmless lies to protect himself, usually.

Posted by TheBeautifulStruggle
Oh and it's weird that he constantly says he's busy, but also when he does talk he always constantly says he rarely has the motivation to finish what he's started..it's a bit puzzling to me of how it could be both, because he if he doesn't have any motivation, what is he doing with the rest of his time?

Dreaming.


A typical Pisces could spend hours, days, even .... alone, doing nothing.

We like being alone, no visitors, no phone calls ... and he is probably very busy being alone in his world.

Another thing about that ^^^^^ we don't actually have to accomplish anything to feel like we've done something. When he says he has no motivation to finish anything, he is referencing what lies in this reality because that is where you live, and tangible things are what you recognize.

A Pisces can, and often do, feel successful within the vision. It's hard for a non-Piscean to get this ... but, here goes ....


When we say we dream, what that means is that we are envisioning our life. Your life, for example, you can go about it and experience it in real time, as it happens. Pisces have to first envision their life to see how it feels to experience it, and then live it. Ordinarily, this is done simultaneosly, as we shift back and forth, and is usually only noticable when you ask the Fish something that catches them off guard .... then you'll see their eyes glaze over before answering, or they will stammer, seemingly speechless >> then will come back and continue to participate in conversation.

** note: the majority of Fish don't know they do this, and will usually deny it if asked, and this isn't for the sake of lying about it, rather, they've lived like this their whole lives and don't realize it's abnormal, compared to others.

So, back to what I was saying .... an episode, situation or thought gets taken into the vision for a split second to process it to see how it's going to feel, and sometimes that is all we need to experience it, and will blow it off in the RW because it wasn't useful. All of this is done without a conscious thought of doing it, so then again, the Fish might not even know what I'm talking about unless they actively searched this of themselves.

So, if he says he doesn't have motivation to finish soemthing he has started, he has likely already felt the experience within the vision, and there's nothing more to experience ... out here, in the reality that you are aware of.

Posted by TheBeautifulStruggle

I have a friend, well..not really a friend..about as friendly as a pisces person can be to another person, as in I can talk to him online and he answers back in kind.

lol, you understand our kind better than even some people who've been relating with Pisces for a lifetime ..

A Pisces will lie for any reason, and most of them can do so virtually undedected ... and this is due to a lifetime of lying, so we've become quite the expert at it.


However, the majority of the time, the Fish doesnt' know it's lying ... we comprehend that reality is perception, and this can/will change with every thought, so will our view.


For example .. I love the color green, I could hate it in five minutes .. that doesnt' mean I've lied, it means my perception of the color green has changed.

As for being able to detect a lie .... deception is an art form, we live our whole lives decieving others because we believe that we have to because there is no way they would be able to comprehend us, so we lay out ideas to them of how they are to percieve us.

It's like, if you are relating with a Pisces ... then you are living inside a tapestry that we have woven. And every person we meet we could either incorporate them into the tapestry or weave an entirely different one for each person.



And again .. unless the Pisces actively searches within themselves, they won't be able to recognize any of this. But, it's true. Wait until the day comes that your Fish tells you something you've never heard before, and ask them why they've never told you before .... you will get either a shrug of the shoulders, or an "I dunno" === they weren't meaning to lie to you, they just only shared with you what they wanted you to know. And there is no malicious intent in doing this ..... it is due to the fact that we experience life within a vision, and then there's other world over here that we still have to content with.


Bascially, it would be like being gay while living in the closet .... we have the reality we have to show you, and then there's where we really live.

So, with your friend, when he tells you he's in other countries, and you know that this cannot be true .. he probably never even feels like he's lying to you, he probably feels like he has to put you inside of a world he wants you to believe is him ...... while he spends his time doing something that only consists of what he wants it to consist of.


I do that all the time. Someone will call and ask what I'm doing and I will lie to them because if I tell them what I'm doing then they might ask me about it and it's none of their business. If I wanted them to know what I was doing, then I would have called them and told them.

Lastly, and I hope I touched on all of your questions ... Pisces people don't typically talk to other people about their personal lives. The young ones do at times, but, this is only because they haven't learned yet that people pretty much have no clue what we are saying.

Now, that's not to say that other people cannot understand us .... it's saying that we believe that other people cannot understand us.

And we are probably right ... since everything in our life has a two-reality process that most of you dont' know what that means.


And secondly .... the normal Pisces person has complete control over their emotions, so we dont' really need any nurturing. That's not to say that we don't have emotional spikes that throw us for a loop .. it's saying that we have the power within us to lick our own wounds, by quickly transferring all unwanted emotions into a cesspool to gather, and we will go there at a later time to sort them out by ourselves.

For this reason, we often find ourselves taking on the wieght of others, and we find that many people seek us out to carry them.

Posted by aPiscesPrincess

Posted by P-Angel


For example .. I love the color green, I could hate it in five minutes .. that doesnt' mean I've lied, it means my perception of the color green has changed.

That's true too. I'm always changing my mind. And then later sometimes I don't even remember I felt a certain way before, and then someone might remind me and say something like "you said you loved that before".. then I'm like "oh yeah I did.. well that's how I felt before, I don't feel the same way anymore." So it's not that it was ever a lie, it's just that we can change our minds and feelings a lot.

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I know, and it's very hard for people to understand this. There's not a definitive answer. If someone asks me: do you love apples? I will likely answer: what is love?

Anyway, this thread has been very interesting..

Like I was saying before, I've actually talk to him by making suggestions or throwing ideas out there, I refrain from talking negatively..not that I feel sorry for him but just that it'd be better for ME personally to talk about more positive things with people in general..so I'll talk about future goals and dreams I have..or alluding to a something else.like a topic, or a song, reccomendations, things like that.

Well if you guys say he'll be fine, than I don't have to worry about it then. Thanks.

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Posted by aPiscesPrincess

lol True ;D

😄

do you ever have issues where it's Pisces Sun logic vs Virgo Moon logic. Cause I swear those two are always at it and it leaves me with a migraine.

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Oh snap...is THAT what this is? That makes perfect sense..

Posted by P-Angel


When we say we dream, what that means is that we are envisioning our life. Your life, for example, you can go about it and experience it in real time, as it happens. Pisces have to first envision their life to see how it feels to experience it, and then live it. Ordinarily, this is done simultaneosly, as we shift back and forth, and is usually only noticable when you ask the Fish something that catches them off guard .... then you'll see their eyes glaze over before answering, or they will stammer, seemingly speechless >> then will come back and continue to participate in conversation.

** note: the majority of Fish don't know they do this, and will usually deny it if asked, and this isn't for the sake of lying about it, rather, they've lived like this their whole lives and don't realize it's abnormal, compared to others.

so true, i always thought i was weird for doing this.

It is true, I think, that everyone tells lies. Even saying something positive to someone about their appearance, when they ask, while thinking they look awful, so as not to hurt their feelings, is a lie, surely?
Personally, I mainly lie to avoid conflict with certain people, mainly my mother. I am trying to change it, but it has become second nature from experiencing her anger (Scorpio) as a kid, to lie to avoid that anger. I also now tend to say I am Ok when I am not, if someone asks how I am, as I learnt from experience that telling the truth if you are feeling down, or having issues, tends to scare people away, lol.

I relate to the mind changing. I actually sometimes struggle to know who I am because my likes can change, and I do seem chamelion like. It is hard to explain really. I also don't tend to finish things I start, and prefer to live in my imagination and my own world to the real world out there, I am guessing that is a Pisces thing as it sure isn't coming from my Taurus sun.

You cant tell theyre just that good. Also geminis are good also. You can always tell if a scorpio or taurus or sagittarius is lying but pisces are generally good at this.

Posted by Grael1975

I relate to the mind changing. I actually sometimes struggle to know who I am because my likes can change, and I do seem chamelion like. It is hard to explain really. I also don't tend to finish things I start, and prefer to live in my imagination and my own world to the real world out there, I am guessing that is a Pisces thing as it sure isn't coming from my Taurus sun.

This strikes such a chord with me, only recently have I discovered the fishyness in my chart - seems to explain why I have had doubts about being a taurus - then again am so confused at times, am i a bull, a ram, a crab or a fish (aries/taurus cusp sun, cancer asc, pisces moon/venus.).

As for the lying, I think all signs do it maybe Pisces more so than others, I can sense when they are though, or at least have a gut feeling (pisces moon ?).

Posted by everevolvingepithet
I think you're being over emotional a little there. 🙂
What's your sign ?

This made me chuckle.

Thank GOD for my Scorpio moon, I never show my feelings. So I am very good at lying, I pretent to my boyfriend I was pregnant once and he fell for it.. was so funny.

It's easy to tell. My ex was a Pisces with a Scorpio moon and he was absolutely terrible at lying. He would avoid eye contact, pause to think, remain silent, and/or soften his voice. Thank goodness I have a Pisces moon so I saw through the BS.

Posted by everevolvingepithet
They're breathing and there's an audience ?

This!! This is what I was thinking before I even open the thread.