Is it just a placebo ? Doubts about astrology
This topic was created in the Pisces forum by Noaddic on Thursday, March 7, 2019 and has 25 replies.
Ok so, I came to realize something that really makes me doubt my view on astrology, and how I perceive myself.
I recognize literally everything that's findable about the classic traits of pisces. Highly sensitive, broad imagination, creative, self pitying sometimes (though I've overcome that largely already), selfless.
Nice to find so much recognition in this, but the thing that flips it all around is that when I see other pisces people I can't see it in them. Only sometimes I do. I literally think sometimes that I'm just a very sensitive person and the fact that I'm a pisces is just a coincidence - maybe that's even the healthiest way to look at astrology anyway.
And it's not that everyone can recognize themselves in a pisces description, like it's general human traits that everyone has. That's what makes me doubt all this.
I wonder if others here struggle with this.
Am I just creating my personality based on my chart because I'm more susceptible to suggestions because I'm lost in who I am? Thing is that I did feel an aha-moment when I finally found a possible 'reason' for being so sensitive.
Sorry for being so personal here. Maybe/probably you don't even care. Haha, peace.
I recognize literally everything that's findable about the classic traits of pisces. Highly sensitive, broad imagination, creative, self pitying sometimes (though I've overcome that largely already), selfless.
Nice to find so much recognition in this, but the thing that flips it all around is that when I see other pisces people I can't see it in them. Only sometimes I do. I literally think sometimes that I'm just a very sensitive person and the fact that I'm a pisces is just a coincidence - maybe that's even the healthiest way to look at astrology anyway.
And it's not that everyone can recognize themselves in a pisces description, like it's general human traits that everyone has. That's what makes me doubt all this.
I wonder if others here struggle with this.
Am I just creating my personality based on my chart because I'm more susceptible to suggestions because I'm lost in who I am? Thing is that I did feel an aha-moment when I finally found a possible 'reason' for being so sensitive.
Sorry for being so personal here. Maybe/probably you don't even care. Haha, peace.
The sun sign is only a part of a person's astro makeup. I am noticing people's moon (emotional response) signs and the aspects it makes are significant. For example, i was watching a celeb on tv who seemed very outwardly emotional for an air sign. On checking her chart she has a feely Taurus moon. As her Aqua is a weak placement in the sun, her moon shone through more.
Do you have other water placements and do you know your dominant sign, planet and house? They will reveal more to the type of person you are
Astrology is never coincidence 🙂
Hope that made sense?
Maybe post your chart and people will take a look for you? Astro.com seems to be a good place. You will need birth time and the town you were born in.
Do you have other water placements and do you know your dominant sign, planet and house? They will reveal more to the type of person you are
Astrology is never coincidence 🙂
Hope that made sense?
Maybe post your chart and people will take a look for you? Astro.com seems to be a good place. You will need birth time and the town you were born in.
Posted by MyStarsShineMakes sense. Thanks! Had my chart read many times before so don't really feel a need to post it.
The sun sign is only a part of a person's astro makeup. I am noticing people's moon (emotional response) signs and the aspects it makes are significant. For example, i was watching a celeb on tv who seemed very outwardly emotional for an air sign. On checking her chart she has a feely Taurus moon. As her Aqua is a weak placement in the sun, her moon shone through more.
Do you have other water placements and do you know your dominant sign, planet and house? They will reveal more to the type of person you are
Astrology is never coincidence 🙂
Hope that made sense?
Maybe post your chart and people will take a look for you? Astro.com seems to be a good place. You will need birth time and the town you were born in.
I do have 4 planets in pisces so if astrology is never a coincidence it would make sense. My dominant signs are if I remember correctly 1. Gemini (I have nothing in gemini but the 4 pisces planets plus one other are in the 3rd house) 2. Pisces, of course 3. Aquarius.
all the astro creeps are gonna come up with their "CHART IS MORE THAN SUN SIGN" because yeah, if you consider an infinite open system (they like to take asteroids into account), you can justify anything "logically".
But the truth is that
astrology = confirmation bias + conformation bias + nebulous "whole chart is important!" smoke = superstition
But the truth is that
astrology = confirmation bias + conformation bias + nebulous "whole chart is important!" smoke = superstition
Posted by hydorahThat equation makes sense. Same with numerology, according to that I'm some saint but if Christ died a day later I wouldn't have been. Don't know enough about numerology to judge though but that's my opinion
all the astro creeps are gonna come up with their "CHART IS MORE THAN SUN SIGN" because yeah, if you consider an infinite open system (they like to take asteroids into account), you can justify anything "logically".
But the truth is that
astrology = confirmation bias + conformation bias + nebulous "whole chart is important!" smoke = superstition
PS Can't help to have noticed you switched age. (don't know how to correctly say that in English) Belated congrats.
well the sun sign is supposed to our egos, the way we see ourselves, not even how we really are, is no wonder why is the most popular reading in the mainstream media, if you see others, youre probably gonna notice their rising and mars more.
if not, you're always free to leave lmao, find something else to do on spare time, live happy, or just keep coming to an astrology forum and say is superstition, clearly that would mean your life is super interesting 🙄 /s like some people are doing right now.
if not, you're always free to leave lmao, find something else to do on spare time, live happy, or just keep coming to an astrology forum and say is superstition, clearly that would mean your life is super interesting 🙄 /s like some people are doing right now.
Posted by Noaddicyou should consider yourself old and wise enough to have an opinion on numerology, even if you haven't studied it. Don't wait on other people to form your opinions. Just make sure you have an open and educated mind at all times.Posted by hydorah
all the astro creeps are gonna come up with their "CHART IS MORE THAN SUN SIGN" because yeah, if you consider an infinite open system (they like to take asteroids into account), you can justify anything "logically".
But the truth is that
astrology = confirmation bias + conformation bias + nebulous "whole chart is important!" smoke = superstition
That equation makes sense. Same with numerology, according to that I'm some saint but if Christ died a day later I wouldn't have been. Don't know enough about numerology to judge though but that's my opinionclick to expand
I identify more with house placements, dominant elements, and aspects of my chart.
I felt astrology was bs for the longest time cause my Pisces sister would delve into our shared sign, daily horoscope, etc and I could never identify with it.
Once I did my own research into my chart it was like, ok yeah. I see it.
Once I did my own research into my chart it was like, ok yeah. I see it.
Forgot to add, I'm a big believer in nurture over nature.
Someone may have all the slut/ho/cheater placements but they had excellent healthy relationships as examples growing up and are solid truthful partners.
Then there are the people with the loyalty placements who come from broken homes and are big fat cheaters.
Don't judge a book by its cover. Let the person show you who they are. And when they do, pay attention.
Someone may have all the slut/ho/cheater placements but they had excellent healthy relationships as examples growing up and are solid truthful partners.
Then there are the people with the loyalty placements who come from broken homes and are big fat cheaters.
Don't judge a book by its cover. Let the person show you who they are. And when they do, pay attention.
Posted by EllygantHi Miss Elly, thanksPosted by MyStarsShineWHERE TA FUCK YOU BEEN. 😍
The sun sign is only a part of a person's astro makeup. I am noticing people's moon (emotional response) signs and the aspects it makes are significant. For example, i was watching a celeb on tv who seemed very outwardly emotional for an air sign. On checking her chart she has a feely Taurus moon. As her Aqua is a weak placement in the sun, her moon shone through more.
Do you have other water placements and do you know your dominant sign, planet and house? They will reveal more to the type of person you are
Astrology is never coincidence 🙂
Hope that made sense?
Maybe post your chart and people will take a look for you? Astro.com seems to be a good place. You will need birth time and the town you were born in.
Hi.
Welcome back.click to expand
... how's it going ? I've been living my life away from social media, starting new stuff, travelling some and enjoying life👍 Are you still chasing the eternal romantic dream?
Posted by Ole_Worm
If you understand Apophenia, you'll understand astrology
lovely, I would like to know how the movement of the earth around the sun and the change of seasons have no direct connection to human behaviour.
even without taking the whole butterfly effect in consideration.
Id can understand calling it a self-fulfilling prophecy, but implying apophenia is a delusion (lmao).
People lightly putting me in my place for 'only basing my doubts on sun signs' and 'not looking into the whole chart'
I used to be a hardcore astrology bitch. I may have even said things like "yeah and I behave like that because of my capricorn moon" and stuff like that. I think that says enough.
I used to be a hardcore astrology bitch. I may have even said things like "yeah and I behave like that because of my capricorn moon" and stuff like that. I think that says enough.
Posted by Ole_WormPosted by EndlessI'm assuming you're a bigger fan of tropical than sidereal? Even though there was only sidereal for thousands of years before Ptolemy created tropical. Do you relate to the original or the Ptolemaic? Do you subscribe to the Greek Mythology surrounding astrology or the original Sumerian/Babylonian mythology which greatly differs? Which one is correct and why?Posted by Ole_Worm
If you understand Apophenia, you'll understand astrology
lovely, I would like to know how the movement of the earth around the sun and the change of seasons have no direct connection to human behaviour.
even without taking the whole butterfly effect in consideration.
Id can understand calling it a self-fulfilling prophecy, but implying apophenia is a delusion (lmao).
I never said environmental factors do not play a role. Hell, the earth's magnetic fields have scientifically shown to alter personality. Location and climate also play a huge role in personality, also proven. Culture is another major factor. Upbringing. Parents. Education. Career. Etc. Etc. Which one plays the biggest role? Sidenote: I enjoy numerology telling people to change their name to avoid bad luck.. "Did you hear about Larry?" "No, what happened?" "His wife left him, his dog died, his house burned down, and he was diagnosed with cancer." "That's terrible, how's he holding together?" "Ah, he's fine... Changed his name to Carlos and he's living his best life. It really is amazing!"
Hell, for all we know there's a giant alien gemstone in the uncharted depths of the ocean used to program our personalities via advanced bluetooth. Maybe alien abductions are the equivalent of taking your phone to the apple store for a software crash?click to expand
what would be the difference between sidereal and tropical if we use the gregorian calendar anyway, you can say it is leo or cancer it doesn't change anything if we experience summer, you will inevitably change the definition of the signs to fit, that's why the sun sign is basically splashed in everyone faces in both systems.
so many cultures used the sun as a pointer for everything because it is important for everything in earth, is the opposite of apophenia unlike the last thing you mentioned.
I'm not dignifying that.
Posted by EllygantThanks Elly😘, loving the new life! The young Scorp is doing good, living his dream and doing well.Posted by MyStarsShineTravel and new projects! How amazing! Congratulations on all the wonderful experiences. How’s the young Scorp? Faring well?Posted by EllygantHi Miss Elly, thanksPosted by MyStarsShineWHERE TA FUCK YOU BEEN. 😍
The sun sign is only a part of a person's astro makeup. I am noticing people's moon (emotional response) signs and the aspects it makes are significant. For example, i was watching a celeb on tv who seemed very outwardly emotional for an air sign. On checking her chart she has a feely Taurus moon. As her Aqua is a weak placement in the sun, her moon shone through more.
Do you have other water placements and do you know your dominant sign, planet and house? They will reveal more to the type of person you are
Astrology is never coincidence 🙂
Hope that made sense?
Maybe post your chart and people will take a look for you? Astro.com seems to be a good place. You will need birth time and the town you were born in.
Hi.
Welcome back.
Are you still chasing the eternal romantic dream?
Nah no more chasing romance for me. I finally decided to give it up and just go full force into career and life’s work. I am seeing an aqua at the moment but it’s none too serious really.click to expand
Good luck with the career and Aqua, have fun and be happy xx
Posted by NoaddicWouldn't you be Pisces and third house dominant if you've a stellium in Pisces? What is your dominant planet,,...Neptune?Posted by MyStarsShineMakes sense. Thanks! Had my chart read many times before so don't really feel a need to post it.
The sun sign is only a part of a person's astro makeup. I am noticing people's moon (emotional response) signs and the aspects it makes are significant. For example, i was watching a celeb on tv who seemed very outwardly emotional for an air sign. On checking her chart she has a feely Taurus moon. As her Aqua is a weak placement in the sun, her moon shone through more.
Do you have other water placements and do you know your dominant sign, planet and house? They will reveal more to the type of person you are
Astrology is never coincidence 🙂
Hope that made sense?
Maybe post your chart and people will take a look for you? Astro.com seems to be a good place. You will need birth time and the town you were born in.
I do have 4 planets in pisces so if astrology is never a coincidence it would make sense. My dominant signs are if I remember correctly 1. Gemini (I have nothing in gemini but the 4 pisces planets plus one other are in the 3rd house) 2. Pisces, of course 3. Aquarius.click to expand
When I saw your user name i thiught it said Nomadic haahaa, maybe you were in a past life?
Posted by MyStarsShineI was wrong indeed, haha.Posted by NoaddicWouldn't you be Pisces and third house dominant if you've a stellium in Pisces? What is your dominant planet,,...Neptune?Posted by MyStarsShineMakes sense. Thanks! Had my chart read many times before so don't really feel a need to post it.
The sun sign is only a part of a person's astro makeup. I am noticing people's moon (emotional response) signs and the aspects it makes are significant. For example, i was watching a celeb on tv who seemed very outwardly emotional for an air sign. On checking her chart she has a feely Taurus moon. As her Aqua is a weak placement in the sun, her moon shone through more.
Do you have other water placements and do you know your dominant sign, planet and house? They will reveal more to the type of person you are
Astrology is never coincidence 🙂
Hope that made sense?
Maybe post your chart and people will take a look for you? Astro.com seems to be a good place. You will need birth time and the town you were born in.
I do have 4 planets in pisces so if astrology is never a coincidence it would make sense. My dominant signs are if I remember correctly 1. Gemini (I have nothing in gemini but the 4 pisces planets plus one other are in the 3rd house) 2. Pisces, of course 3. Aquarius.
When I saw your user name i thiught it said Nomadic haahaa, maybe you were in a past life?click to expand
Dominant signs:
1. Pisces
2. Gemini
3. Aquarius
Dom. Planets: (position aspects total rank procent right?)
1. Mercury
2. Neptune
3. Pluto
And about the past life, very possible!
Posted by NoaddicSo Pisces, Merc, 3rd house dominant?Posted by MyStarsShineI was wrong indeed, haha.Posted by NoaddicWouldn't you be Pisces and third house dominant if you've a stellium in Pisces? What is your dominant planet,,...Neptune?Posted by MyStarsShineMakes sense. Thanks! Had my chart read many times before so don't really feel a need to post it.
The sun sign is only a part of a person's astro makeup. I am noticing people's moon (emotional response) signs and the aspects it makes are significant. For example, i was watching a celeb on tv who seemed very outwardly emotional for an air sign. On checking her chart she has a feely Taurus moon. As her Aqua is a weak placement in the sun, her moon shone through more.
Do you have other water placements and do you know your dominant sign, planet and house? They will reveal more to the type of person you are
Astrology is never coincidence 🙂
Hope that made sense?
Maybe post your chart and people will take a look for you? Astro.com seems to be a good place. You will need birth time and the town you were born in.
I do have 4 planets in pisces so if astrology is never a coincidence it would make sense. My dominant signs are if I remember correctly 1. Gemini (I have nothing in gemini but the 4 pisces planets plus one other are in the 3rd house) 2. Pisces, of course 3. Aquarius.
When I saw your user name i thiught it said Nomadic haahaa, maybe you were in a past life?
Dominant signs:
1. Pisces
2. Gemini
3. Aquarius
Dom. Planets: (position aspects total rank procent right?)
1. Mercury
2. Neptune
3. Pluto
And about the past life, very possible!click to expand
Do you have a propensity for reading and study .... maybe an interest in psychology and metaphysics?
Posted by MyStarsShineYes. Philosophy and psychology, better said I philosophize over psychology a lot. But spirituality too. I have a very quick mind when it comes to making links within those subjects.Posted by NoaddicSo Pisces, Merc, 3rd house dominant?Posted by MyStarsShineI was wrong indeed, haha.Posted by NoaddicWouldn't you be Pisces and third house dominant if you've a stellium in Pisces? What is your dominant planet,,...Neptune?Posted by MyStarsShineMakes sense. Thanks! Had my chart read many times before so don't really feel a need to post it.
The sun sign is only a part of a person's astro makeup. I am noticing people's moon (emotional response) signs and the aspects it makes are significant. For example, i was watching a celeb on tv who seemed very outwardly emotional for an air sign. On checking her chart she has a feely Taurus moon. As her Aqua is a weak placement in the sun, her moon shone through more.
Do you have other water placements and do you know your dominant sign, planet and house? They will reveal more to the type of person you are
Astrology is never coincidence 🙂
Hope that made sense?
Maybe post your chart and people will take a look for you? Astro.com seems to be a good place. You will need birth time and the town you were born in.
I do have 4 planets in pisces so if astrology is never a coincidence it would make sense. My dominant signs are if I remember correctly 1. Gemini (I have nothing in gemini but the 4 pisces planets plus one other are in the 3rd house) 2. Pisces, of course 3. Aquarius.
When I saw your user name i thiught it said Nomadic haahaa, maybe you were in a past life?
Dominant signs:
1. Pisces
2. Gemini
3. Aquarius
Dom. Planets: (position aspects total rank procent right?)
1. Mercury
2. Neptune
3. Pluto
And about the past life, very possible!
Do you have a propensity for reading and study .... maybe an interest in psychology and metaphysics?click to expand
Posted by Ole_WormPosted by Endless"what would be the difference between sidereal and tropical if we use the gregorian calendar anyway" approximately 36 degrees hence why there is a full sign difference between the 2 systems. Sidereal doesnt operate on seasons, it operates on constellations and fixed stars which move at a different rate. Ever wonder why we have a leap year and why that started? Its to make up the differences the gregorian calendar creates. So far we've had 106 leap years since the gregorian calendar's inception. Solar calendars differ from sidereal which differs from the gregorian.Posted by Ole_WormPosted by EndlessI'm assuming you're a bigger fan of tropical than sidereal? Even though there was only sidereal for thousands of years before Ptolemy created tropical. Do you relate to the original or the Ptolemaic? Do you subscribe to the Greek Mythology surrounding astrology or the original Sumerian/Babylonian mythology which greatly differs? Which one is correct and why?Posted by Ole_Worm
If you understand Apophenia, you'll understand astrology
lovely, I would like to know how the movement of the earth around the sun and the change of seasons have no direct connection to human behaviour.
even without taking the whole butterfly effect in consideration.
Id can understand calling it a self-fulfilling prophecy, but implying apophenia is a delusion (lmao).
I never said environmental factors do not play a role. Hell, the earth's magnetic fields have scientifically shown to alter personality. Location and climate also play a huge role in personality, also proven. Culture is another major factor. Upbringing. Parents. Education. Career. Etc. Etc. Which one plays the biggest role? Sidenote: I enjoy numerology telling people to change their name to avoid bad luck.. "Did you hear about Larry?" "No, what happened?" "His wife left him, his dog died, his house burned down, and he was diagnosed with cancer." "That's terrible, how's he holding together?" "Ah, he's fine... Changed his name to Carlos and he's living his best life. It really is amazing!"
Hell, for all we know there's a giant alien gemstone in the uncharted depths of the ocean used to program our personalities via advanced bluetooth. Maybe alien abductions are the equivalent of taking your phone to the apple store for a software crash?
what would be the difference between sidereal and tropical if we use the gregorian calendar anyway, you can say it is leo or cancer it doesn't change anything if we experience summer, you will inevitably change the definition of the signs to fit, that's why the sun sign is basically splashed in everyone faces in both systems.
so many cultures used the sun as a pointer for everything because it is important for everything in earth, is the opposite of apophenia unlike the last thing you mentioned.
I'm not dignifying that.
Not only all this, but each constellation varies in size - none make up a true 30 degrees. Maybe this makes a strong case to believe in the one system more? Idk. But, if you believe in the constellations as the basis of tropical astrology (which it is suggested), that's the very definition of Apophenia because the stars and constellations are not where they are assumed to be, they cannot be connected in the literal sense. You for instance, a tropical leo, would have actually been born under the cancer constellation and all the mythology that goes along with it.
https://sciencing.com/calendar-year-vs-earth-orbit-20708.html
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.livescience.com/4667-astrological-sign.html
https://www.popsci.com/your-zodiac-sign-isnt-what-you-think-it-isclick to expand
I'm aware of the difference between sidereal and tropical, but it won't matter, since the beginning astrology was made to predict the seasons, the mythology came after, some used the moon cycles some used the sun, but everything was for the seasons, it wasn't hard to see the connection for people that gazed at the stars.
and I know what I'm in sidereal too, that's why I mentioned cancer, and yet it doesn't matter, you can call it leo, cancer, or whatever you like, it won't change a thing, I was born in summer, and my birthday will always be in summer, the system keep its pace.
also I'm pretty sure that when ptolemaic made the tropical astrology, the constellation where aligned with the signs we used today, so obviously the man made the whole thing taking the season in consideration, today's sidereal doesn't, is hollow of the old logic.
do people think the hours in a watch affect their behavior? or the minutes? no, the watch is used to keep track of a system.
the fact that there's a lot of myths and what not attached to it have little importance, that was the old way to name and explain what we can't understand yet.
Posted by Ole_WormPosted by EndlessBut you're still holding the position that the sun's location is the reason for personality while it could just be the vitamin D from the sun shaping receptors in the brain in the mother's womb, as science has began showing. Or the many other roles the sun plays in providing nutrients to humans. I mean there are all kinds of science behind nutrients and fetal development. So, yes the sun will shape people... just not the way or to the degree astrology portrays.Posted by Ole_WormPosted by Endless"what would be the difference between sidereal and tropical if we use the gregorian calendar anyway" approximately 36 degrees hence why there is a full sign difference between the 2 systems. Sidereal doesnt operate on seasons, it operates on constellations and fixed stars which move at a different rate. Ever wonder why we have a leap year and why that started? Its to make up the differences the gregorian calendar creates. So far we've had 106 leap years since the gregorian calendar's inception. Solar calendars differ from sidereal which differs from the gregorian.Posted by Ole_WormPosted by EndlessI'm assuming you're a bigger fan of tropical than sidereal? Even though there was only sidereal for thousands of years before Ptolemy created tropical. Do you relate to the original or the Ptolemaic? Do you subscribe to the Greek Mythology surrounding astrology or the original Sumerian/Babylonian mythology which greatly differs? Which one is correct and why?Posted by Ole_Worm
If you understand Apophenia, you'll understand astrology
lovely, I would like to know how the movement of the earth around the sun and the change of seasons have no direct connection to human behaviour.
even without taking the whole butterfly effect in consideration.
Id can understand calling it a self-fulfilling prophecy, but implying apophenia is a delusion (lmao).
I never said environmental factors do not play a role. Hell, the earth's magnetic fields have scientifically shown to alter personality. Location and climate also play a huge role in personality, also proven. Culture is another major factor. Upbringing. Parents. Education. Career. Etc. Etc. Which one plays the biggest role? Sidenote: I enjoy numerology telling people to change their name to avoid bad luck.. "Did you hear about Larry?" "No, what happened?" "His wife left him, his dog died, his house burned down, and he was diagnosed with cancer." "That's terrible, how's he holding together?" "Ah, he's fine... Changed his name to Carlos and he's living his best life. It really is amazing!"
Hell, for all we know there's a giant alien gemstone in the uncharted depths of the ocean used to program our personalities via advanced bluetooth. Maybe alien abductions are the equivalent of taking your phone to the apple store for a software crash?
what would be the difference between sidereal and tropical if we use the gregorian calendar anyway, you can say it is leo or cancer it doesn't change anything if we experience summer, you will inevitably change the definition of the signs to fit, that's why the sun sign is basically splashed in everyone faces in both systems.
so many cultures used the sun as a pointer for everything because it is important for everything in earth, is the opposite of apophenia unlike the last thing you mentioned.
I'm not dignifying that.
Not only all this, but each constellation varies in size - none make up a true 30 degrees. Maybe this makes a strong case to believe in the one system more? Idk. But, if you believe in the constellations as the basis of tropical astrology (which it is suggested), that's the very definition of Apophenia because the stars and constellations are not where they are assumed to be, they cannot be connected in the literal sense. You for instance, a tropical leo, would have actually been born under the cancer constellation and all the mythology that goes along with it.
https://sciencing.com/calendar-year-vs-earth-orbit-20708.html
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.livescience.com/4667-astrological-sign.html
https://www.popsci.com/your-zodiac-sign-isnt-what-you-think-it-is
I'm aware of the difference between sidereal and tropical, but it won't matter, since the beginning astrology was made to predict the seasons, the mythology came after, some used the moon cycles some used the sun, but everything was for the seasons, it wasn't hard to see the connection for people that gazed at the stars.
and I know what I'm in sidereal too, that's why I mentioned cancer, and yet it doesn't matter, you can call it leo, cancer, or whatever you like, it won't change a thing, I was born in summer, and my birthday will always be in summer, the system keep its pace.
also I'm pretty sure that when ptolemaic made the tropical astrology, the constellation where aligned with the signs we used today, so obviously the man made the whole thing taking the season in consideration, today's sidereal doesn't, is hollow of the old logic.
do people think the hours in a watch affect their behavior? or the minutes? no, the watch is used to keep track of a system.
the fact that there's a lot of myths and what not attached to it have little importance, that was the old way to name and explain what we can't understand yet.
Sumerian calanders only recognized 2 seasons summer and winter.
http://history-world.org/mesopotamiancalander.htm
Yes, the mythology was basically a story to portray the importance of the seasons. The story of persephone and hades is all about growth (taurus) and death (scorpio) correlating to planting season and harvest season. Hades was a metaphor for underground storage of the crops. The seeds were then taken out of storage and planted - death and rebirth. The cycle of life.
The main reason for time keeping was food. When to plant when to harvest. Nutrients. And the difference between nutrient rich fresh food vs less nutritious stored food. Which in this day and age science can control and produce fairly predictable results.
Maybe astrology was a way of looking to the heavens in order to explain what was happening within?click to expand
but that's not what I understand as apophenia, heck it might be the contrary, it was a epiphany, the people of the old world realize there was a connection between us and the sun/moon cycles.
when newton realize that gravity was the same force that made the apple fall and made the moon orbit, that was an epiphany too but he was not totally correct, it took years until einstein proved that the spacetime was in fact bending.
I generally think astrology is like that, it might be clouded with pseudoscience, but there's some true to it, we just don't know what is going, but if the medical field is allowed to use paracetamol without certainty of how it works....
and the fact that the placebo and self-fulfilling prophecy effect exist, doesn't make it easy, we have a set of tradition and ideas based on seasons, even if we don't have them (around equator) or we have it backwards (go to australia in december and see the fake snowman dolls) they could clearly affect us even without the old needs that our ancestors had, but we work with the belief that the actual astrological system can be used.
I spent years thinking my emotional makeup was due to Scorpio dominant in my chart until I met an astrologer who explained to me that it was due to a Sun Neptune conjunction ... she said Scorpio was "frozen tears" and it was the Neptunian influence that gave the flow of emotions. I found that interesting as some years later I witnessed my macho Aries Sun/Sag moon father crying quite often. On checking his chart .... Pisces dominant.
Posted by RooSagicornHi Roo, all is good thanksPosted by MyStarsShineHey!! Good to see you here
The sun sign is only a part of a person's astro makeup. I am noticing people's moon (emotional response) signs and the aspects it makes are significant. For example, i was watching a celeb on tv who seemed very outwardly emotional for an air sign. On checking her chart she has a feely Taurus moon. As her Aqua is a weak placement in the sun, her moon shone through more.
Do you have other water placements and do you know your dominant sign, planet and house? They will reveal more to the type of person you are
Astrology is never coincidence 🙂
Hope that made sense?
Maybe post your chart and people will take a look for you? Astro.com seems to be a good place. You will need birth time and the town you were born in.click to expand
. How are you and the family?Posted by RooSagicornWow your baby graduating! Where did the time go? 😥. We are in the same boat Roo, I'm an empty nester too for a couple of years. I've gone from feeling devestated to very slowly enjoying the freedom. Time can change things, nothing stays the same 💚Posted by MyStarsShineThe little one graduates in May!! I can’t believe it.. she’s doing great.Posted by RooSagicornHi Roo, all is good thanksPosted by MyStarsShineHey!! Good to see you here
The sun sign is only a part of a person's astro makeup. I am noticing people's moon (emotional response) signs and the aspects it makes are significant. For example, i was watching a celeb on tv who seemed very outwardly emotional for an air sign. On checking her chart she has a feely Taurus moon. As her Aqua is a weak placement in the sun, her moon shone through more.
Do you have other water placements and do you know your dominant sign, planet and house? They will reveal more to the type of person you are
Astrology is never coincidence 🙂
Hope that made sense?
Maybe post your chart and people will take a look for you? Astro.com seems to be a good place. You will need birth time and the town you were born in.click to expand
I don't know what is this all about honestly. Not all pisces are the same, I'm different than my counterpart pisces mars, I find them incredibly irritable, worse if a man has it in his chart. Fucking disaster, It's all about dominant planets, houses and mars and moon if you ask me. For example someone with scorpio mars will be softer if it's in 12th house, but will be a complete jerk if it's in 3rd or 9th house, that's how I view it
Related Topics
I was seeing a Virgo man I’m a Taurus female and it was an amazing connection then one day he just went cold and said he didn’t want to see me anymore. I stupidly begged and then he said he actually wants to be friends with me and see where it goes and s
@Tgal996
Joined: Mar 07, 2019 · Topics: 1 · Posts: 1
So first off, I’m freaked tf out. I live alone, and honestly I’ve been super stressed out lately because of work related issues. And also my dog of 9 years died in my apt and she was always my stress reliever during these times. So I’m a pretty spiritual
@Purpleaqua01
Joined: Jan 02, 2019 · Topics: 26 · Posts: 223
Keep hearing from you g and old that same men (maybe women as well but I’ve heard about men only) treating different women differently.
Same man will treat one woman as shit and when with another one - treating her as gold.
I do undersatand when it’s p
@Gemitati
Joined: Aug 04, 2015 · Topics: 1026 · Posts: 38091
Do you agree or disagree, why or why? I'm all ears...
@Brickhouse27
Joined: Apr 04, 2018 · Topics: 50 · Posts: 672
what is your opinion or experience?
can a restaurant owner decide they dont allow children in? (more of babies or toddlers, but the bigger ones can be just as bad, if they dont behave)
@Pandora101
Joined: Oct 14, 2015 · Topics: 15 · Posts: 2348
I am
Taurus sun
Gemini moon and rising
Cancer mars
Aries Venus
He is
Gemini sun
Pisces moon
Leo mars
Taurus Venus
He is my first/only Gemini...I was his first girlfriend in high school. That was almost 10 years ago and we recently reconnected. I usua
@Grounded_goddess24
Joined: Mar 05, 2019 · Topics: 1 · Posts: 7
I am drowning in all this water.
I am so sensitive that I have decided to stay in the house.
Neptune conjunct midheaven...
I havent even gone into the office. Just working from home.
I just have the desire to escape.
@DMV
Joined: Nov 10, 2010 · Topics: 650 · Posts: 30828
When talking to or dating someone, what do you call them?
Is there meaning behind it or do you just resort to pet names for everyone?
@Reciprocity8
Joined: Feb 18, 2019 · Topics: 21 · Posts: 315
Been seeing this Aries man, he so smooth and gentle. Sex is the best ! I've known him since October 2018.At first , I was the one who initiated contact, but after we decided to date, i'ts a balance .
I am just nervous cause we hardly speak , but when we
@aquastictly
Joined: Feb 19, 2019 · Topics: 2 · Posts: 4