Kurt Cobain

This topic was created in the Pisces forum by Tornadoday16 on Tuesday, January 28, 2014 and has 39 replies.
I spent a lot of time listening to this guys music and I so often wonder if it was a mistake. Whats the point of it? Nihilism? What do y'all think? was this a guy that was famous only because of how he looked? Does any one think his music was that great? Talk about a negative Pisces, personally I think Kurt was frustrated because he was at the top of the music industry yet he didn't even own his own ego. Typical Pisces.
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Who knows. Reality is his dopamine and seratonin levls were extremely low from his heroin addiction. His depression could have been a lot more manageable without that little issue. And I think a part of him was comfortable being negative, it was his protection.
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Posted by CluelessCancer
He's a Genius. what was your point with this stupid commentary?


Way to make yourself seem educated and intelligent. State an opinion as a fact, and then say someone else is stupid for having a different opinion. Idiot.
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Ironically kurt cobain probably hated people like that. Judgmental and overly opinionated. *cough* CC and P-angel.
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Posted by CluelessCancer
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Posted by CluelessCancer
He's a Genius. what was your point with this stupid commentary?


Way to make yourself seem educated and intelligent. State an opinion as a fact, and then say someone else is stupid for having a different opinion. Idiot.


what's idiotic is to make a statement that someone was popular because of their looks. Nirvana started the Grunge era. They're trend makers. And you sound really educated and intelligent by calling me an idiot, twerp.
what are you doing on dxp this late anyways? Shouldn't you be getting ready for junior high tomorrow?
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Oh yes, all the intelligent people in the world refrain from name calling. You are right, I totally forgot. Well good thing we know you are on my level as you just called me a twerp (LOL). Seriously... twerp? What kind of old woman are you? This isn't a 1980's high school flick. And I think kurt cobain is a genius too, but people can CLEARLY become famous due to looks. Are you too defensive of your opinion to realize most our celebrities are famous because of that very reason?
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I'm not even saying thats why kurt cobain became famous. I'm saying that you are not being objective, you are being defensive and bitchy. Typical of you though, you always have something up your ass. Probably just hate your life lol. Stay mad girly.
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Posted by CluelessCancer
Posted by lysergicaciddiethylamide
Ironically kurt cobain probably hated people like that. Judgmental and overly opinionated. *cough* CC and P-angel.


you're comparing me to P-ANGEL? LMAO wow, that's a huge compliment dude. Thanks.
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Aww does someone have a role model? That explains the similar attitudes.
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pot meet kettle
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Posted by CluelessCancer
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Posted by CluelessCancer
He's a Genius. what was your point with this stupid commentary?


Way to make yourself seem educated and intelligent. State an opinion as a fact, and then say someone else is stupid for having a different opinion. Idiot.



what's idiotic is to make a statement that someone was popular because of their looks. Nirvana started the Grunge era. They're trend makers.
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*facepalm*
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I think people overlook Cobain. His music is perfect when I am in my depressing cancer moods. It is therapy. It makes me happy. But he was a great song writer. I think he just could not escape the laurels of his darkness. But maybe he was killed who knows. But you guys cannot forget the Novoselic and Grohl. Both are great musicians.
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Posted by CluelessCancer
Posted by lysergicaciddiethylamide
I'm not even saying thats why kurt cobain became famous. I'm saying that you are not being objective, you are being defensive and bitchy. Typical of you though, you always have something up your ass. Probably just hate your life lol. Stay mad girly.


hi i've never interacted with you, but you seem to have many judgments and you're rude.
Anyways i never responded to you. i responded to the op. So shut your flapping tongue, before I neuter it.

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LOL come at me brah. Umad?
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Posted by geminicandIe
I read somewhere that his parent's early divorce contributed to a lot of anguish in Nirvana's music. After they split, he never felt loved and secure again. It influenced his life because he was a sickly child (bronchitis and asthma) and he became antisocial and withdrawn. He was even homeless for a while, but most of his life was spent with relatives who didn't really want him.
In high school he was beaten by the jocks and they wrote words like "queer" on his pick up truck. So he and his friend, Kris Novoselic, turned to British nihilistic post-punk bands to fill their emotional voids. Kurt actually attempted suicide few times until he finally succeeded. It was through several hard attempts that Nirvana rose to fame, which unfortunately was short-lived. However, his legacy still remains to this day...he certainly was idol of my teenage years and I have great memories and respect for him. It is sad that he never was a happy, whole manSad
R.I.P Curt



He had a cancer moon... A divorce would hit a cancer moon pretty hard. Makes sense!
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If I'd have to choose a person to be the president of water signs, I'd choose that guy.
Music industry is ruled by feelings, appereance and things like that.
(I didn't say money, because every industry is about money of course).
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Plus where is the piece peeps. Opinions are like assholes. Sometimes they stink, sometimes they are used for pleasure, and everybody has one. Let's not poop this party oohhh wait.....
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Oh my... this thread is made to dive... and dive... and dive... in deep water.
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See Tornado?
This is where you belong, this is where you are meant to be.
Otherwise, you'd be denying your own nature, and that's not good. Not wise at all.
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Posted by CharlieSlaughter
See Tornado?
This is where you belong, this is where you are meant to be.
Otherwise, you'd be denying your own nature, and that's not good. Not wise at all.


Who is tornado?
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Posted by Tornadoday16
.... Kurt was frustrated because he was at the top of the music industry yet he didn't even own his own ego. Typical Pisces.




Yes, very typical.
Probably every famous Pisces has the same struggles when they look around at how other people LOVE the spotlight for ego strokes ..... it's not normal for Fish to love ego strokes.
In fact, Pisces realize that there's not really much point in life, at all ... and that really doesn't coincide with the ego.
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I loved Dave Grohl ... still do.
And if it wasn't for Nirvana ... we might not have ever realized how great Dave is.
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Posted by cornfuzzled4ever
Foo Fighters > Nirvana


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Nirvana had the lyrics though. Amazing feel in the music but Foo Fighters definitely rock.
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@Charlieslaughter
Whoa, back the fuck off man. Don't you dare tell me what my true nature is. No sign is more variable than Pisces.
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Posted by CluelessCancer
He's a Genius. what was your point with this stupid commentary?


excellent remark.
do not disrespect Kurt Cobain on a Pisces board...
--Jack
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I always loved Hole a lot more than Nirvana, not sure why.
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^^^ I think it is because Hole's music has that kick of life in it that is just absent from Nirvana. In my honest opinion, Nirvana is not that musical. I would say that Hole, Modest Mouse, The Smashing Pumpkins, and Elliott Smith were all more talented artists that came out of a similar environment in the 90's.
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Posted by Tornadoday16
^^^ I think it is because Hole's music has that kick of life in it that is just absent from Nirvana. In my honest opinion, Nirvana is not that musical. I would say that Hole, Modest Mouse, The Smashing Pumpkins, and Elliott Smith were all more talented artists that came out of a similar environment in the 90's.


The Smashing Pumpkins and Nirvana were written for and headed up by Pisces men. Hole was written for and headed by a Crabby.
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@sizezero
Elliott was just so fucking good. He made real music. Nirvana made power chords and noise. But that's not to totally rip on Kurt, he was a much better visual artist than musician. He made some really good sculptures and collages.
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@sizezero
You mention Kurt's lyrical genius. That is an interesting point because on the Bleach album the lyrics are pretty non sensical, but "Heart Shaped Box, on the other hand, has fantastic lyrics.
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Posted by Tornadoday16
^^^ I think it is because Hole's music has that kick of life in it that is just absent from Nirvana. In my honest opinion, Nirvana is not that musical. I would say that Hole, Modest Mouse, The Smashing Pumpkins, and Elliott Smith were all more talented artists that came out of a similar environment in the 90's.


exactly, i think being a girl you have to love hole because you can really FEEL courtney's pain and emotion i.e. doll parts etc. so you can feel it more on a female level.
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Posted by Tornadoday16
Nirvana made power chords and noise.


Given the fact Kurt Cobain(and Nirvana)were admittedly very much inspired by punk rock, those influences were evident in the music.
If anything, Nirvana's success was largely a matter of being in the right place(Seattle)at the right time(early '90s)--along with having the right image & connections locked down. Courtney Love & Dave Grohl were also able to capitalize on Nirvana's fame & further build their respective careers.
On that note, I'll gladly give credit where due: in terms of creative lyrical poetry, Kurt's talent was one-of-a-kind. I've always said that if Nirvana hadn't broken into the mainstream, they'd be credited as having been one of the best underground music acts of the nineties.
Since that clearly wasn't the outcome, somewhat of an "overrated" reputation is attached to Nirvana's legacy.
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def, i think a member of early nirvana was from the germs, one of the original punk groups when x and circle jerks and black flag was playing in LA, cant get any more punk than that ! smile
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Posted by Tornadoday16
@sizezero
You mention Kurt's lyrical genius. That is an interesting point because on the Bleach album the lyrics are pretty non sensical, but "Heart Shaped Box, on the other hand, has fantastic lyrics.


Ehh but it was soo much different than their earlier music.

Bleach, nonsensical-- maybe; but I think it was the feeling behind it, and that was part of the appeal.

gimme back my alcohol! lol Tongue

Last thing I really liked from them was Incesticide, but that featured a lot of their older music, b-sides, I think.

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Posted by size zero superhero
Given the fact Kurt Cobain(and Nirvana)were admittedly very much inspired by punk rock, those influences were evident in the music....


def, i think a member of early nirvana was from the germs, one of the original punk groups when x and circle jerks and black flag was playing in LA, cant get any more punk than that ! smile
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Yeah. smile
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Oh so y'all like their earlier stuff. That's okay but I def prefer Nevermind/In Utero
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@Montgomery
I'm surprised you even know about Insecticide lol Its just that Insecticide is a pretty unknown album and I always thought you were more of a preppy girl for some reason.
@Juke
That cover has some good points but I think Amy's voice is at times to indulgent. I understand its a cover and she is trying to have fun but that song is such a dreadful scream of agony into the void. It's probably Kurt's best vocal if you ask me...
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I love the Smashing Pumpkins but I heard Billy Corgan was an a-hole. I do love James Iha. I am not too crazy for Courtney Love. She is just meh. I think people just need to accept Nirvana for Nirvana. I think Musically alice in chains was better but Cobain's emotions are on another level. His lyrics really catch. I always wondered if Cobain was influenced by this poem for Come as You Are.
???Come, come, whoever you are. Wanderer, worshiper, lover of leaving. It doesn't matter. Ours is not a caravan of despair. come, even if you have broken your vows a thousand times. Come, yet again , come , come.??
-Rumi
Plus I do love me some Mudhoney and Soundgarden. In my crazy imagination for 2 years I would want Tupac Shakur a great writer, Jim Morrison great writer, John Lennon great writer, and Kurt Cobain to come together to write some music. Those lyrics would be on another plateau.
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Lol Tupac. The thing is, who is gonna write the music. I mean we all know those guys wrote good lyrics, but none of them wrote good music.
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I saw Billy play a show back in May and, I mean, let's just say he seems like he has some Aries in his chart.
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I saw Billy play a show back in May and, I mean, let's just say he seems like he has some Aries in his chart.
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Posted by Tornadoday16
@Montgomery
I'm surprised you even know about Insecticide lol Its just that Insecticide is a pretty unknown album and I always thought you were more of a preppy girl for some reason.


I'm surprised you know about Incesticide. Winking
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