Pisces is not a part of mindless mob.
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Pisces is not a part of mindless mob.
As we all know, when people live in groups, generally an opinion of single person does have very very little importance. Generally people do forget their own personality and submit to the mob.
Besides of all other signs, Pisces does not do that.
What do you think about this statement?
As we all know, when people live in groups, generally an opinion of single person does have very very little importance. Generally people do forget their own personality and submit to the mob.
Besides of all other signs, Pisces does not do that.
What do you think about this statement?
Virgos are more independent and tend to be hangers on with groups. They are more into individual relationships with group members than into the group itself.
I agree, unless they know everyone in the group and then they are the center of attention. Very popular.
I agree, unless they know everyone in the group and then they are the center of attention. Very popular.
"I don't believe that if a mindless mob was doing something senseless the pisceans would stand up and try to stop them. They might walk away. "
Only if Pisces does not know what's wrong. But Pisces surely will notice and add it to list of "this need to be figured out first".
After it's been figured out, you couldn't see anyone more forcefull in defending the ground.
"Pisces may be loners by nature, but they certainly try to be apart of groups, sometimes out of insane desperation."
Sometimes. But 99% of situation is for sake of figuring it out. After the problem is solved, Pisces generally fly-by all the time (without an exception!).
"Pisceans often live in denial about their nature, from what I've seen."
Indeed. That's the indicatior of how undeveloped that Pisces is.
"They aren't too socially acceptable, but they are worse than the most shallow people when it comes to these things because of all the extra effort they take to put up these fronts."
Playing along is essential. Rebels does not live and breathe in the world freely. Yet, when they finally figure it out, they are far far more socially acceptable than Aquarius, because empathy factor kicks in.
Only if Pisces does not know what's wrong. But Pisces surely will notice and add it to list of "this need to be figured out first".
After it's been figured out, you couldn't see anyone more forcefull in defending the ground.
"Pisces may be loners by nature, but they certainly try to be apart of groups, sometimes out of insane desperation."
Sometimes. But 99% of situation is for sake of figuring it out. After the problem is solved, Pisces generally fly-by all the time (without an exception!).
"Pisceans often live in denial about their nature, from what I've seen."
Indeed. That's the indicatior of how undeveloped that Pisces is.
"They aren't too socially acceptable, but they are worse than the most shallow people when it comes to these things because of all the extra effort they take to put up these fronts."
Playing along is essential. Rebels does not live and breathe in the world freely. Yet, when they finally figure it out, they are far far more socially acceptable than Aquarius, because empathy factor kicks in.
They aren't too socially acceptable
Rrather other signs see their quiet nature and believe they can be pushed around. They are also very underestimated.
Rrather other signs see their quiet nature and believe they can be pushed around. They are also very underestimated.
Example is how I deal with people.
I'm very critical person. And my criticising goes way far even from a Virgo. You can see how I deal with Qbone and Strings.
I wasn't that critical in the beginning. But when I figured it out, even Virgos leave the battlefield.
I'm very critical person. And my criticising goes way far even from a Virgo. You can see how I deal with Qbone and Strings.
I wasn't that critical in the beginning. But when I figured it out, even Virgos leave the battlefield.
I can be very very merciless with my criticues.
But when I figured it out, even Virgos leave the battlefield.
Pisces is like a tide.
When it's focsed, it swallows everything.
People, countries, goverments...
When it's focsed, it swallows everything.
People, countries, goverments...
"and Pisces don't have a quiet nature, that is just a front."
You are very right Branh0913. It's just a front. And Pisces can fluctuate between very calm exteriour and very forceful exteriour. This even freaks Pisces itself. But Pisces mostly "forced" to stay quiet.
You are very right Branh0913. It's just a front. And Pisces can fluctuate between very calm exteriour and very forceful exteriour. This even freaks Pisces itself. But Pisces mostly "forced" to stay quiet.
But Pisces mostly "forced" to stay quiet.
From the Pisces I've seen the choose to be quiet, they're scared of whatever if they are not.
From the Pisces I've seen the choose to be quiet, they're scared of whatever if they are not.
"Pisces take the path of least resistance very often, and sometimes this will lead to imbalance and double standards."
That happens when Pisces do give up. And that happens alot.
That happens when Pisces do give up. And that happens alot.
" From the Pisces I've seen the choose to be quiet, they're scared of whatever if they are not."
They are scared of themselves. Because when they go out of full force, they will bring both benefit and violence at the same time.
Pisces need to learn the difference first, and act then.
They are scared of themselves. Because when they go out of full force, they will bring both benefit and violence at the same time.
Pisces need to learn the difference first, and act then.
"Yes but the question was about mob mentality not individual power struggles."
Individual power struggle is a core of Piscean to not fall under control of mob.
Individual power struggle is a core of Piscean to not fall under control of mob.
"There is no progress without conflict."
Very agreed. But Pisces do need to understand first to which part of subconscious do the conflict adressed at. Without it, Pisces will hold back the confrontation.
"Pisces also rarely have balanced egos. It is either one extreme or another."
This is normal Branh0913. When Pisces comes out, not 1 person comes out, it's 12 people comes out. And half of them are egoistic. But Pisces can learn the difference and act selectively.
Very agreed. But Pisces do need to understand first to which part of subconscious do the conflict adressed at. Without it, Pisces will hold back the confrontation.
"Pisces also rarely have balanced egos. It is either one extreme or another."
This is normal Branh0913. When Pisces comes out, not 1 person comes out, it's 12 people comes out. And half of them are egoistic. But Pisces can learn the difference and act selectively.
"Lol Haffo if you have all the answers why pose the questions...?!"
I wanted to know what do other Pisceans do think about this. Maybe they could give me some deeper introspection.
I wanted to know what do other Pisceans do think about this. Maybe they could give me some deeper introspection.
But all of you can speak about it. I want to know how Piscean do seems in your experiences.
It helps me with my own introspection. I sometimes relate with situation and find more answers about myself.
It helps me with my own introspection. I sometimes relate with situation and find more answers about myself.
"Capgirlinlustwithleo it is because of egotistical solidarity. Questions aren't meant to be answered, their meant to sothe his ego. There is nothing wrong with this, since Pisces are emotionally driven, oftentimes things are done for no reason but to sothe their emotions and/or ego states."
No, this is not true.
No, this is not true.
Pisces tend to have more "obscured" values before the world starts giving them better direction.
Better to have their own then anything the world can give them.
Better to have their own then anything the world can give them.
" Then what is your agenda here Haffo?"
This.
"I wanted to know what do other Pisceans do think about this. Maybe they could give me some deeper introspection."
"But all of you can speak about it. I want to know how Piscean do seems in your experiences.
It helps me with my own introspection. I sometimes relate with situation and find more answers about myself."
This.
"I wanted to know what do other Pisceans do think about this. Maybe they could give me some deeper introspection."
"But all of you can speak about it. I want to know how Piscean do seems in your experiences.
It helps me with my own introspection. I sometimes relate with situation and find more answers about myself."
"Seem like you underestimate the power of Pisceans having their own distinct personality. They may be hybrids of all 12 signs, but they are very much there own unique people."
Yes they do have one. But it's closely related with those 12 signs.
Pisces do work for people and benefit from this work itself too as much as others.
"Pisces oftentime feel more alive when they make confusion of the world around them. "
Nonsense. Pisces does not play with people. Analyse them? Yes.
"Pisces tend to have more "obscured" values before the world starts giving them better direction."
Yes they do. They have their own suspicions and that is their real values. When those suspicions fill with realities, then they become Piscean values too. That why Pisces is not a part of mob. It's too suspicious about thing to fall under them and that is the genuine values of Pisces in the beginning.
Yes they do have one. But it's closely related with those 12 signs.
Pisces do work for people and benefit from this work itself too as much as others.
"Pisces oftentime feel more alive when they make confusion of the world around them. "
Nonsense. Pisces does not play with people. Analyse them? Yes.
"Pisces tend to have more "obscured" values before the world starts giving them better direction."
Yes they do. They have their own suspicions and that is their real values. When those suspicions fill with realities, then they become Piscean values too. That why Pisces is not a part of mob. It's too suspicious about thing to fall under them and that is the genuine values of Pisces in the beginning.
"Better to have their own then anything the world can give them"
The ONLY thing that Piscean will have in the beginning, are suspicions. Nothing more. And never more!
The ONLY thing that Piscean will have in the beginning, are suspicions. Nothing more. And never more!
"Being shifted and morphed by the world around you isn't beneficial."
Actually Pisces does not consciously allow the surrounding around them to shift them. They rather deceived by it. Why? Because Pisces do give in to any suspicion. That is a drawback of being that much suspicious.
Actually Pisces does not consciously allow the surrounding around them to shift them. They rather deceived by it. Why? Because Pisces do give in to any suspicion. That is a drawback of being that much suspicious.
"Sometimes Pisces tend to liked to be pulled in every direction that they stubbornly try to disconnect from common sense, believing that it is a boring alternatives."
Yeah we do sometimes crash into ground with our suspicions.
Yeah we do sometimes crash into ground with our suspicions.
Pisces do give in to any suspicion.
Yes, they are a very gullible sign just as Virgos are.
Yes, they are a very gullible sign just as Virgos are.
"Pisces are intuitive, but intuition missfires when they try to see what they want to see as opposed to seeing what is really there."
Piscean intuition does not have much worth if it is not being trained.
Piscean intuition does not have much worth if it is not being trained.
"The main goal is to try to find out why you have that suspicion in the first place."
Indeed. And the first and never chainging rule is to follow intution.
Indeed. And the first and never chainging rule is to follow intution.
"Even at this level they are making a clear choice to ignore the realities of the nature of people and make actions aligned with their idealism."
This is quite natural. Pisces will try anything to find the solution. This is weakness when undeveloped, strenght when developed.
This is quite natural. Pisces will try anything to find the solution. This is weakness when undeveloped, strenght when developed.
"Pisces should become better activist however, but they do hate conflict."
They are Branh0913. But they need to reach specific level of skill to use that.
This is mainly first understanding how it's subconscous works. Otherwise, only results will come out to conscious and nothing to analyse will be left.
They are Branh0913. But they need to reach specific level of skill to use that.
This is mainly first understanding how it's subconscous works. Otherwise, only results will come out to conscious and nothing to analyse will be left.
Virgos are not gullible? Where did you get that from Random?
My family and an astrology book.
My family and an astrology book.
" Yes, they are a very gullible sign just as Virgos are."
Gullible only when untrained.
Gullible only when untrained.
Virgo's are gullible in emotional department.
"Virgo are perhaps the most realistic sign in the zodiac, which is why they are mainly despised."
Being very relistic is not a negative trait. Rather, it's very positive trait. Yet, Virgo does not know how to present it and be acceptable. Pisces does.
Being very relistic is not a negative trait. Rather, it's very positive trait. Yet, Virgo does not know how to present it and be acceptable. Pisces does.
"They use reality more effectively than any other sign."
Hell no. Virgo's are just trying to prove something to people. This can't be "the most effective way". It's simply impossible.lol.
Hell no. Virgo's are just trying to prove something to people. This can't be "the most effective way". It's simply impossible.lol.
"Virgos are dishonest in the emotional department, they aren't gullible. "
Then they are not as effective as Pisces is.
Then they are not as effective as Pisces is.
"but that is mainly because Virgos are a more cerebreal sign and they are co-ruled by Air/Earth."
Agreed. Virgo's are not well suited with analysing people emotions.
Agreed. Virgo's are not well suited with analysing people emotions.
"Yes Haffo, but Pisces are the *least* realistic sign in the zodiac."
Practically yes. Idealistically no.
Talent is always there. They just run from it.
Practically yes. Idealistically no.
Talent is always there. They just run from it.
Though Branh0913.
Human race did not yet developed to the state where Pisces will easily find it's way. It's generally way too much work for Pisces to reach something than for other signs.
It just freaks them out.
Human race did not yet developed to the state where Pisces will easily find it's way. It's generally way too much work for Pisces to reach something than for other signs.
It just freaks them out.
"but I think the most realistic answer is more or less what a Pisces has dealt with through personal experiences."
Yep. And the answer is not very pleasurable.
Yep. And the answer is not very pleasurable.
Branh0913
This is not the Piscean enviroument. LOL!
Piscean enviroument is challanging envroument. Didn't you say that our nature is not calm?
How the hell we can sit in such world and think about solution when there is no apparent problem?
My idea of Piscean enviroument is "lots of problems with intelligent people in it with sensible ideas about soutions which include both realist and emotionalism".
This is not the Piscean enviroument. LOL!
Piscean enviroument is challanging envroument. Didn't you say that our nature is not calm?
How the hell we can sit in such world and think about solution when there is no apparent problem?
My idea of Piscean enviroument is "lots of problems with intelligent people in it with sensible ideas about soutions which include both realist and emotionalism".
Emotionalism that fuels idealism.
People should be aware of problems, not just sleep, fuck, eat and die.
See?
That why I love Cappies. They think like we are.
That why I love Cappies. They think like we are.
Hmm...
Is that a proof of Cappies being stronger in realism than Virgos?
After all, Cappie is 10th sign, while Virgo is 5th. There are 4 sings in between. Cappies must have learnt something from them.
Is that a proof of Cappies being stronger in realism than Virgos?
After all, Cappie is 10th sign, while Virgo is 5th. There are 4 sings in between. Cappies must have learnt something from them.
" I don't get the analogy here."
We would be living better if we wouldn't live like animals who only think about eating, fucking and dieing.
We would be living better if we wouldn't live like animals who only think about eating, fucking and dieing.
Or something similair to that.
Branh0913
Capricorns are better suited with dealing with people than Virgo's are. They are definetly more realistic people than Virgos.
Virgos do think in their own world, while Cappies do realise it in the real world.
Capricorns are better suited with dealing with people than Virgo's are. They are definetly more realistic people than Virgos.
Virgos do think in their own world, while Cappies do realise it in the real world.
And I don't think Cappies are any less in refining and perfecting things. They just include humans in their plans and perfect over it.
Maybe Virgo's just don't see that?
Maybe Virgo's just don't see that?
People are not walking machines Branh0913. Not yet.lol.
It also frusturates me the hell out to deal with this, but this is the reality. If you want to do some change, you need to start from where poeple are standing now, not from where they sould stay.
It also frusturates me the hell out to deal with this, but this is the reality. If you want to do some change, you need to start from where poeple are standing now, not from where they sould stay.
Virgo's are tweakers, but they rarely include people in it and their current state. They can't tweak it realistically if they don't count those factors in it. Cappies are more people oriented than Virgo's are and they do create things according to it. That makes them more realistic, because they also work with people. Virgo's can tweak over what Capricorn has created, but usability of it is fairly limited because it's been tweaked over as if people are machnines.
Maybe you are right Branh0913.
Because Pisces and Capricorn think the same, it could be sensible for Virgo's be tweakers, after all Virgo is the opposite of the Pisces. If something Pisces lacks, then maybe Capricorn lasts it too.
Because Pisces and Capricorn think the same, it could be sensible for Virgo's be tweakers, after all Virgo is the opposite of the Pisces. If something Pisces lacks, then maybe Capricorn lasts it too.
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