Pisces & Jealousy
This topic was created in the Pisces forum by v-lady on Friday, April 3, 2009 and has 26 replies.
I've read all the stuff about how Pisces don't get jealous (they're above it)... but somehow that doesn't mesh with their stereotypical need for reassurance and admiration. What are people's thoughts about Pisces and jealousy?
More concretely... I've noticed my Pisces has been a more interested in my romantic life. It's nothing major, but if I evade a question like what I did for Valentine's Day (nothing), he'll bring it up again until I answer it directly. He's never been like this before and I'm trying to figure out what meaning, if any, that may have.
More concretely... I've noticed my Pisces has been a more interested in my romantic life. It's nothing major, but if I evade a question like what I did for Valentine's Day (nothing), he'll bring it up again until I answer it directly. He's never been like this before and I'm trying to figure out what meaning, if any, that may have.
I can't answer for all pisces but I know with me, romance means everything. Without it, other things/simple things suffer and can cause huge issues. When I'm unsure about the romance in my life, it causes me to be unsure about other things that wouldn't usually bother me. And jealousy could develope if I think we aren't were we should be in that department.
I know that Pisces men are very jealous. I never go by what books say about anyone. They are very jealous. I have dealt with a few and trust me, they are very jealous men and they can get a bit scary with it. So be careful.
"with their stereotypical need for reassurance and admiration"
Is that ^^^^ your own assessment, or one you read?
Is this about the same Pisces man that you, Virgo, have been chasing for a couple years, trying to get him, while he remains aloof?
Is that ^^^^ your own assessment, or one you read?
Is this about the same Pisces man that you, Virgo, have been chasing for a couple years, trying to get him, while he remains aloof?
PA - I'm going to call bullshit on that comment of yours and that subtle thread of derision you integrated into it.
Yes, this is the same Pisces that I've been posting about for the last 2+ years. The "relationship" (as it were) is entirely reciprocal. I'm interested in him, but I'm not chasing him or otherwise trying to get him (with all the manipulation and subterfuge that implies). He is absolutely awful about being direct about his feelings, but that doesn't mean I have any doubt about him having very real feelings for me. That certainly doesn't mean he's being aloof. I analyze his actions because that's how I roll, not because I have any fundamental sense of insecurity about his place in my life.
More directly - stop being a hater. If you'd like to talk about jealousy, that's great. If you're interested in judging me, please keep it to yourself.
Yes, this is the same Pisces that I've been posting about for the last 2+ years. The "relationship" (as it were) is entirely reciprocal. I'm interested in him, but I'm not chasing him or otherwise trying to get him (with all the manipulation and subterfuge that implies). He is absolutely awful about being direct about his feelings, but that doesn't mean I have any doubt about him having very real feelings for me. That certainly doesn't mean he's being aloof. I analyze his actions because that's how I roll, not because I have any fundamental sense of insecurity about his place in my life.
More directly - stop being a hater. If you'd like to talk about jealousy, that's great. If you're interested in judging me, please keep it to yourself.
I get jealous over stupid shit, not so much my relationships, but what others have, materialistically speaking.
Waterbaby77, I had a scorp friend who was like that(about material things and other people). I had to let her go. She was acting as if she and I were in a romantic relationship. Now that jealousy was very weird.
Posted by tocca
Waterbaby77, I had a scorp friend who was like that(about material things and other people). I had to let her go. She was acting as if she and I were in a romantic relationship. Now that jealousy was very weird.
hmmm, maybe she had a girl crush on you ???? I don't have any close scorp friends, so just wondering if they're possessive and jealous when it comes to friendships. I know they can be in romantic relationships.
I dont get jealous, perhaps concerned if something is up. If some one wants to purposely make me jealous, I just dont bother. Complicated negative situations and people make a very unhappy pisces out of me. I like things to be simple and fun when it comes to relationships.
I can't speak for all scorp. but my friend was. OMG, she would act cold and mean if I would hang out with other friends. Even broke into tears one time. and I'm like, are you serious. She said I put her to the side when I'm around other friends. I just told her, this isn't high school. and that just crushed her. I'd find my self avoiding her calls sometimes and feeling like I was cheating if I didn't invite her to come with me to someone else's house. Telling them, don't tell her I was over here. I was beginning to stress out about it. and feeling like I owed her an explanation if we weren't together. Last March, she e-mailed me telling me it was hard for her to admitt but she was jealous of my life and the things I had. Me being a pisces, I didn't turn her away for think it was weird. It made me kind of understand why she act the way she did. We aren't friends anymore though. She did something really stupid. She took her jealousy thing to a whole nother level.
I've read all the stuff about how Pisces don't get jealous (they're above it)...
No human is above it - it's the way they show it that makes them different.
No human is above it - it's the way they show it that makes them different.
Theres a limit to my jealous, most of the time I just chill, if my girl or some random ass dude crosses that line, they will know it. Shes MY gf for a reason, not yours.
Posted by tocca
I can't speak for all scorp. but my friend was. OMG, she would act cold and mean if I would hang out with other friends. Even broke into tears one time. and I'm like, are you serious. She said I put her to the side when I'm around other friends. I just told her, this isn't high school. and that just crushed her. I'd find my self avoiding her calls sometimes and feeling like I was cheating if I didn't invite her to come with me to someone else's house. Telling them, don't tell her I was over here. I was beginning to stress out about it. and feeling like I owed her an explanation if we weren't together. Last March, she e-mailed me telling me it was hard for her to admitt but she was jealous of my life and the things I had. Me being a pisces, I didn't turn her away for think it was weird. It made me kind of understand why she act the way she did. We aren't friends anymore though. She did something really stupid. She took her jealousy thing to a whole nother level.
Yeah Tocca, I was just talking to my Pisces friend this morning, well I found out her moms a scorpio, and does the same thing to her. My friends 30 and has been living with her mom, getting her life in order since her split, now that she's on her feet again and looking for a place to live, her moms making her feel incredibly guilty about it.
I see .. so, you think it's perfectly ok for you to make generalized judgements about all Pisces people across the board ... but, heaven forbide should someone point something out to you specifically ... how so very hypocritical of you.
Of course, you're a Virgo ... so, it's not like it's surprising.
Here's the thing .. you've been fucking this man for over 2 years, without a commitment. He's free to fuck whomever he chooses, whenever he chooses .... and you just open your legs to him like a slut would ..... meaning, whenever he wants.
That's it .. that's all your relationship is .. and it's all it has been.
Now, he asked you a question .... and you have yourself believing he must be jealous or summat .. how absurd .. why would he be jealous of his whore?
Of course, you're a Virgo ... so, it's not like it's surprising.
Posted by v-lady
I've read all the stuff about how Pisces don't get jealous (they're above it)... but somehow that doesn't mesh with their stereotypical need for reassurance and admiration. What are people's thoughts about Pisces and jealousy?
More concretely... I've noticed my Pisces has been a more interested in my romantic life. It's nothing major, but if I evade a question like what I did for Valentine's Day (nothing), he'll bring it up again until I answer it directly. He's never been like this before and I'm trying to figure out what meaning, if any, that may have.
Here's the thing .. you've been fucking this man for over 2 years, without a commitment. He's free to fuck whomever he chooses, whenever he chooses .... and you just open your legs to him like a slut would ..... meaning, whenever he wants.
That's it .. that's all your relationship is .. and it's all it has been.
Now, he asked you a question .... and you have yourself believing he must be jealous or summat .. how absurd .. why would he be jealous of his whore?
Ah... the female scorp jealousy in friendship thing. I've been there though I never acted on it. I tried to keep it under control as much as possible.
The best way I can describe it is I'm not close to alot of people. I choose a select few and stick with them. My Aries friend on the other hand was really social and out going. She made alot of dumb impulsive decisions and me being miss litte controling and protective I'd always be there to bail her out. I didn't realize until later that I'd make her feel like she owed me something in return. My bad. I thought of it as more of her being ungreatful about all the things I did for her. It seemed like I'd get her out of a messed up situation and she'd take my help and then run off with her other friends and disreguard my feelings. The thing about it was she never asked for my help I was always just there for her because she was my friend. SO... in our own ways we were both a little wrong. She did take me for granted too much and I tried to be way overly possesive with her. It had nothing to do with a girl crush. I just really cared for her as a friend and being that I was always the one bailing her out it made me feel important. Yeah... my damn ego. LOL
Scorps get possesive really quickly and it can be pretty alarming if you don't understand it. But if you look at the "good" it just means we really care about you.
Even after my Aries friend and I started going our seperate ways she called me at 4am one night because he loser boyfriend completely stranded her on a snowy night out in the middle of nowhere AND she was drunk off her ass. I was 2 hours away from her but I got out of bed, got dressed and went to get her. Even after all the friction between us I still would have done anything for her. Still would if she asked me too. *shrug*
The best way I can describe it is I'm not close to alot of people. I choose a select few and stick with them. My Aries friend on the other hand was really social and out going. She made alot of dumb impulsive decisions and me being miss litte controling and protective I'd always be there to bail her out. I didn't realize until later that I'd make her feel like she owed me something in return. My bad. I thought of it as more of her being ungreatful about all the things I did for her. It seemed like I'd get her out of a messed up situation and she'd take my help and then run off with her other friends and disreguard my feelings. The thing about it was she never asked for my help I was always just there for her because she was my friend. SO... in our own ways we were both a little wrong. She did take me for granted too much and I tried to be way overly possesive with her. It had nothing to do with a girl crush. I just really cared for her as a friend and being that I was always the one bailing her out it made me feel important. Yeah... my damn ego. LOL
Scorps get possesive really quickly and it can be pretty alarming if you don't understand it. But if you look at the "good" it just means we really care about you.
Even after my Aries friend and I started going our seperate ways she called me at 4am one night because he loser boyfriend completely stranded her on a snowy night out in the middle of nowhere AND she was drunk off her ass. I was 2 hours away from her but I got out of bed, got dressed and went to get her. Even after all the friction between us I still would have done anything for her. Still would if she asked me too. *shrug*
I personally wouldn't like people seeming like they are keeping secrets either. That's not nice.
Posted by Shattered-Dreamz
Speaking as a Pisces male, I don't get jealous. The way I see it is that if a significant other wants to flirt with other people or let their eyes rove, then that tells me that they're not 100% serious about me and the relationship or our future. That way, I'll expect for it not to last. Besides, if they slip and do something that counts as cheating, then that's it because I won't be waiting in open arms. You want to run around and flirt carelessly, then I'm not going to sit back and wait for you. I'll more than likely shut down emotionally because if you fishing for appetizers then you ain't satisfied with the main course. That's all that is.
Shattered-Dreamz
EXACTLY ... relationship wise anyway.
You don't mean anything to him other than to use .... how long is it going to take for you to get this in your head?
And I'd be willing to wager that the next time he comes in town, your clothes will fall off again.
You're his whore .. face it.
And I'd be willing to wager that the next time he comes in town, your clothes will fall off again.
You're his whore .. face it.
Actually that should read .... you're one of his whores.
Thanks everyone for all the feedback.
Archer - I totally know what you're talking about and I agree completely. It is irritating. Evading was perhaps too strong a word.
The example I was thinking of is us discussing how we spent our Valentine's Day. I was totally floating around in love with the idea of love and told him that. He asked me if I had spent the day with anyone, but I didn't answer because I was still talking about the subject we were on before that came up. The conversation continued, took a bunch of random paths, and then he asked again. When he asked that second time I answered him straight up. That's all. Nothing sneaky and no game playing or anything like that. I was just rambling and he wanted to bring me back to a particular topic.
So no secrets. I can think of just one, but that was me being shy about expressing my affection for him and not a little game or anything. In fact, I just got finished pouring my heart out about a lousy day I had on Friday and he was his usual remarkable, kind self. I think the one surprise was that he kept on apologizing for not being able to help and I kept on assuring him that he's been an amazing support.
Maybe jealousy might have been the wrong word. Looking at what I've just typed, I think it's more about expressing an interest in little things. Either way, he's great. All of this over-analysis is just my way of expressing caring. Admittedly, it's perverse to have overanalyzing be a sign of affection, but whatever!
I can totally see this evolving into a discussion of how Pisces express affection. Could jealousy be one part of that?
Starfish - Did you have that photo up of yourself a few months ago? It's so nice to put a face to the name!
Archer - I totally know what you're talking about and I agree completely. It is irritating. Evading was perhaps too strong a word.
The example I was thinking of is us discussing how we spent our Valentine's Day. I was totally floating around in love with the idea of love and told him that. He asked me if I had spent the day with anyone, but I didn't answer because I was still talking about the subject we were on before that came up. The conversation continued, took a bunch of random paths, and then he asked again. When he asked that second time I answered him straight up. That's all. Nothing sneaky and no game playing or anything like that. I was just rambling and he wanted to bring me back to a particular topic.
So no secrets. I can think of just one, but that was me being shy about expressing my affection for him and not a little game or anything. In fact, I just got finished pouring my heart out about a lousy day I had on Friday and he was his usual remarkable, kind self. I think the one surprise was that he kept on apologizing for not being able to help and I kept on assuring him that he's been an amazing support.
Maybe jealousy might have been the wrong word. Looking at what I've just typed, I think it's more about expressing an interest in little things. Either way, he's great. All of this over-analysis is just my way of expressing caring. Admittedly, it's perverse to have overanalyzing be a sign of affection, but whatever!
I can totally see this evolving into a discussion of how Pisces express affection. Could jealousy be one part of that?
Starfish - Did you have that photo up of yourself a few months ago? It's so nice to put a face to the name!
Me too, archer.
Him: That's three times I saw you look at that guy
Me: Fuck yeah, he's hot .. how high can you count?
Him: That's three times I saw you look at that guy
Me: Fuck yeah, he's hot .. how high can you count?
"To be exact, big, dark and ugly, but b/c he's fine, two out of three ain't bad.
We do pretty well, until a guy is on the scene.
And b/c I'm pretty secure with myself and I know I have him, just like he knows he has me, I am not jealous -- I'm too flaming busy smiling."
The above reminds me of several situations where people have talked like this .... I can recall right off the top of my head coming from an Aries, a Leo and a Gemini.
Gemini made assertion that ugly chicks will remain loyal because nobody else wants them, and they will even overlook some indiscretions that pretty women would flip out over ...... because the pretty women could actually get better.
Leo said that every ugly man she has been with treated her like a queen .... she loved being admired and had vowed that all of her men would be ugly to behold, so that she could keep them.
Aries man, who is quite attractive, is married to very phycially ugly women who isn't anywhere near being in his league .. he is hot, she is very fat and her face is just well, she is very ugly .... and he knows this, he has commented on how ugly she is before. But, she caters to him, she devotes herself 200% to him .. no matter how foolish he may get when he leaps before looking, or his nature that would run overtop others to get what he wants .. she doesn't care about any of his flaws .............. because she's ugly and married to a hot man. He's not going anywhere, will be married to her for life .. because he can live a life of a free man who can do whatever he wants without any bitching going on, while he has clean clothes, and hot meals provided.
Now, here's another admission from another person saying they like ugly people as partners .. and I find this to be a very superficial trait, loaded full of ego, abuse, insensitivity, trust, disrespect .. the list goes on.
Certainly, it has happened where a physically attractive person fell in love with another who was not physically attractive ... because a person can be beautiful on the inside, and that is what makes a person.
However, whenever I encounter a person who looks for ugly people to be with ...... has all kinds of flags waving telling me this person is a user.
We do pretty well, until a guy is on the scene.
And b/c I'm pretty secure with myself and I know I have him, just like he knows he has me, I am not jealous -- I'm too flaming busy smiling."
The above reminds me of several situations where people have talked like this .... I can recall right off the top of my head coming from an Aries, a Leo and a Gemini.
Gemini made assertion that ugly chicks will remain loyal because nobody else wants them, and they will even overlook some indiscretions that pretty women would flip out over ...... because the pretty women could actually get better.
Leo said that every ugly man she has been with treated her like a queen .... she loved being admired and had vowed that all of her men would be ugly to behold, so that she could keep them.
Aries man, who is quite attractive, is married to very phycially ugly women who isn't anywhere near being in his league .. he is hot, she is very fat and her face is just well, she is very ugly .... and he knows this, he has commented on how ugly she is before. But, she caters to him, she devotes herself 200% to him .. no matter how foolish he may get when he leaps before looking, or his nature that would run overtop others to get what he wants .. she doesn't care about any of his flaws .............. because she's ugly and married to a hot man. He's not going anywhere, will be married to her for life .. because he can live a life of a free man who can do whatever he wants without any bitching going on, while he has clean clothes, and hot meals provided.
Now, here's another admission from another person saying they like ugly people as partners .. and I find this to be a very superficial trait, loaded full of ego, abuse, insensitivity, trust, disrespect .. the list goes on.
Certainly, it has happened where a physically attractive person fell in love with another who was not physically attractive ... because a person can be beautiful on the inside, and that is what makes a person.
However, whenever I encounter a person who looks for ugly people to be with ...... has all kinds of flags waving telling me this person is a user.
*** mistrust
Posted by WaterBaby77Posted by tocca
I can't speak for all scorp. but my friend was. OMG, she would act cold and mean if I would hang out with other friends. Even broke into tears one time. and I'm like, are you serious. She said I put her to the side when I'm around other friends. I just told her, this isn't high school. and that just crushed her. I'd find my self avoiding her calls sometimes and feeling like I was cheating if I didn't invite her to come with me to someone else's house. Telling them, don't tell her I was over here. I was beginning to stress out about it. and feeling like I owed her an explanation if we weren't together. Last March, she e-mailed me telling me it was hard for her to admitt but she was jealous of my life and the things I had. Me being a pisces, I didn't turn her away for think it was weird. It made me kind of understand why she act the way she did. We aren't friends anymore though. She did something really stupid. She took her jealousy thing to a whole nother level.
Yeah Tocca, I was just talking to my Pisces friend this morning, well I found out her moms a scorpio, and does the same thing to her. My friends 30 and has been living with her mom, getting her life in order since her split, now that she's on her feet again and looking for a place to live, her moms making her feel incredibly guilty about it.click to expand
That sounds almost exactly like me and my mom. I moved in with her after I got laid off last year, and now that I'm ready to move back out, she keeps saying things like "I don't have anyone to spend time with" and "I don't wanna live past 50" (when she just turned 50). She's not a Scorpio, but she's a Pisces with that decan.
FWIW, I have that decan as well and I can think of quite a few times when I've displayed traits more typically associated with Scorpio than Pisces, but I don't usually get jealous unless someone is consciously trying to manipulate me to be... although it's pretty rare that I don't pick up on what they're trying to do before it gets to that point.
I just figured out that the bull statue is a reference to Wall Steet. Figures that "art" marketed towards stuffy businessmen would turn out to be completely lame once you "get" it.
Still a nice lookin' piece though...
Still a nice lookin' piece though...
Umm...the pisces guys I've dated ALL have been the jealous type...but they aren't aggressive about it, they're good at hiding it. I think alot of it has to do with where their moon, venus, and rising signs are (like anywhere in scorpio or leo).
Inside, they're probably fueling up
Inside, they're probably fueling up
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