Pisces man, Venus in Aries, with Sun Square Saturn
This topic was created in the Pisces forum by babystef on Thursday, August 8, 2013 and has 3 replies.
I've been in a tumultuous relationship with a Pisces man for almost 3 years now. He's definitely the martyr fish that people talk about; insecure, passive aggressive, likes his alcohol, has the tendency to lie and manipulate certain situations, often thought to be bipolar, avoids problems and conflict for weeks at a time, and even though we have put each other through hell, we keep coming back to each other.
I definitely fit the mold of the strong, confident, feisty, stubborn, optimistic, and independent woman. I'm on the virgo/libra cusp, leo in venus and mars, with a lot of masculine fire signs in my other planets. My strengths compliment his weaknesses and vice versa. I care about and believe in this man, but a part of me feels that I will always be held back with him, unable to achieve whatever goals and dreams he sets for himself or our relationship.
He has Venus in Aries, which I think causes a lot of the tension and roller coaster feel of our relationship. If things ever become the slightest bit stable or boring, I always know a fight is being conjured up right around the corner.
We have (my) Sun square (his) Saturn in our synastry, which I've read causes things to be difficult, yet binding at the same time. Why this would make for a long term relationship, I still have no idea.
So I've heard the negative stories with Pisces men, where most advise to run away and never look back. As tempting as that is sometimes, I can't help but feel as though we have so much we can learn from each other and opportunity to grow in our relationship.
I guess I'm just thinking out loud, wanting to discuss and hear other opinions and perspectives.
I definitely fit the mold of the strong, confident, feisty, stubborn, optimistic, and independent woman. I'm on the virgo/libra cusp, leo in venus and mars, with a lot of masculine fire signs in my other planets. My strengths compliment his weaknesses and vice versa. I care about and believe in this man, but a part of me feels that I will always be held back with him, unable to achieve whatever goals and dreams he sets for himself or our relationship.
He has Venus in Aries, which I think causes a lot of the tension and roller coaster feel of our relationship. If things ever become the slightest bit stable or boring, I always know a fight is being conjured up right around the corner.
We have (my) Sun square (his) Saturn in our synastry, which I've read causes things to be difficult, yet binding at the same time. Why this would make for a long term relationship, I still have no idea.
So I've heard the negative stories with Pisces men, where most advise to run away and never look back. As tempting as that is sometimes, I can't help but feel as though we have so much we can learn from each other and opportunity to grow in our relationship.
I guess I'm just thinking out loud, wanting to discuss and hear other opinions and perspectives.
Posted by babystef
I can't help but feel as though we have so much we can learn from each other and opportunity to grow in our relationship.
As long as you keep this perspective, you will gain something from this experience.
I would find it hard to believe that this is a life long partnership if the following is how you describe this man:
He's definitely the martyr fish that people talk about; insecure, passive aggressive, likes his alcohol, has the tendency to lie and manipulate certain situations, often thought to be bipolar, avoids problems and conflict for weeks at a time
What are his strengths to complement your weaknesses?
I care about and believe in this man, but a part of me feels that I will always be held back with him
...so you want to save him, and this relationship? You are Jesus? Welcome to DXP Jesus
(32.4% joking here)
even though we have put each other through hell, we keep coming back to each other.click to expand
Lessons have yet to be learned... as evidenced by your original post. Which is a part of life, but with some simple rearranging of the pattern of your thoughts, it seems very clear to me that this is an experiential learning relationship more than a "true love" relationship.
Just my opinion!
I appreciate your opinion.
He is very much the dreamer, emotional, sensitive, and intuitive. I'm much more logical, balanced, and straightforward. So he has helped me see a different perspective in life.
There was a period where I did want to save him, because I felt like he saved me in a way. However, after more experiences and lessons learned, I came to realize you can't save anyone. It will happen when it is supposed to, if at all, and is really up to that person. I've instead come to understand and accept him for who he is, and that he does have those negative fish qualities I mentioned. I feel as though if this relationship is meant to end at some point, it will be when we have learned everything we can from another, in which case we will be able to walk away freely.
He is very much the dreamer, emotional, sensitive, and intuitive. I'm much more logical, balanced, and straightforward. So he has helped me see a different perspective in life.
There was a period where I did want to save him, because I felt like he saved me in a way. However, after more experiences and lessons learned, I came to realize you can't save anyone. It will happen when it is supposed to, if at all, and is really up to that person. I've instead come to understand and accept him for who he is, and that he does have those negative fish qualities I mentioned. I feel as though if this relationship is meant to end at some point, it will be when we have learned everything we can from another, in which case we will be able to walk away freely.
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