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... I envision everything.

People say that Pisces have good imaginations, and I think that these people are misunderstanding the term "imagination" as it refers to us.

We aren't especially better than other people at thinking shit up, the actual basis for the creation ... rather, we enter the creation.

It's hard to explain ..... people look at a painting and make assesments, judgements, comments on the painting as it being external to them as their eyes observe ..... whereas WE envision the reality of the painting as if we are inside of it.

Hopefully Pisces people get that.


So, this envisioning that I speak of is huge to my life, and I wonder if other Pisces are like this ... once I have something in my mind, an image ... it is cemented.

It will constantly pop in my head ... clearly.

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Posted by P-Angel


It's hard to explain ..... people look at a painting and make assesments, judgements, comments on the painting as it being external to them as their eyes observe ..... whereas WE envision the reality of the painting as if we are inside of it.




When I read that the first thing that popped into my head was Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins with the chalk drawings that they jumped into lol. I remember being very young and trying to do that myself. 😛

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Posted by P-Angel
Like a dumbass, I opened a link to a site of abused animals, animals being skinned alive, tortured ...... that was 4 days ago.


And I cannot get the images out .. and it is tormenting.



Being a Pisces, I've always been like this with images, like I described ... or, it's just me.



Someone posted a video on here a while ago of cows being beaten and kicked and what not it was awful. I can still picture it clear as day in my head like it were happening right in front of me.
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Posted by P-Angel
Like a dumbass, I opened a link to a site of abused animals, animals being skinned alive, tortured ...... that was 4 days ago.


And I cannot get the images out .. and it is tormenting.



Being a Pisces, I've always been like this with images, like I described ... or, it's just me.





^i'm the same way. i don't even like people to tell me certain types of stories because i can "see" what they're talking about.

i became a vegetarian (the second time) because i couldn't get an animal rights video involving dogs out of my head.

i also cry at commercials because for me, the story is bigger than 30 seconds.

people tell me i "think too much" because i don't see the surface.

oh oh oh! spit! i hate spitting or seeing spit on the sidewalk. it literally pisses me off. in fact, thinking about it now is making me a bit angry. for some reason, certain images will stay with me for several hours, if not days so i try to avoid seeing things that i know will stay with me.

so overall, not a trait exclusive to pisces in the slightest. at best, i have 12th house placements so maybe it's the house and not the sign but given i can relate and there are no fishies in my chart...
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i'm not sitting here talking out of my fucking ass as if my sign is the only one capable of depth and feeling.

get over yourselves 😛

frankly, if the animal rights video bothered her so damn much, stop fucking "dreaming" about the horrors, get off your ass and do something about it. clearly by being passive she doesn't give a "rat's" ass but i suppose given the sun sign in question, it feels ooooh so good to feel oooh so bad.
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seriously, aquas are the humanitarians and you all pretend to give a shit. but all you do is weep, lament and dream about better days.

on the virgo forum you have a bunch of weak ass bastards talking about how leonine they are when in reality, i guarantee if you met any of them face to face, you probably wouldn't even notice them. they'd be off in a corner somewhere pretending not to stare and inwardly making "witty" observations that border on morose.

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you're missing the point "King." aquas are actually pretty arrogant individuals. but they oppose leo. where leo is overt, aquas are covert. the arrogant doesn't cease to exist just because they're opposed. the trait is there. in one sign it is readily apparent and in the other, there is a concerted effort to deny/downplay/hide.

go to the virgo forum now and you will witness a lot of patting on the back. a lot of grandiose talk about how wonderful the sign is. it was so "other worldly" that i can't even go there anymore without wanting to rip them a new one.

where leo actually believes in their divinity but may inwardly fear not measuring up, virgos know they don't measure up can't help but mimic their astrological predecessor. the result is an e-persona that anyone who is familiar with virgos in real life knows is complete bullshit.

here though, you have the same phenomenon except i'ts aquarian in nature. you're all pretty full of yourselves as well but as with aqua, the modesty is false. the difference is, like virgo, you inwardly doubt and therefore, the notion of a fish being "King" is cute as we all know the "king of the sea" is tuna.

you're much more kingly when you're being yourselves and frankly, i'm not sure you know what that is...you do have "a little bit of every sign" after all 😛
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i thought like that when i staryted searching sick brutal videaos p angel but now i watch with awareness. i just accpet it, and realise and tell myslef there's fuck all i can physically do about it to help. so if i want to watch something like that i watch it with a certain mindset that won't mess me up metally and get me all upset and stuff. becaue at the end of the day p angel and people, we all got our won problems to worry bout.

i'm open top awareness tho.
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Posted by pushit
Well, it's good that you guys care about animals, but caligula is right. All of you people who are talking about how much you love animals and can't stand the fact that they're being killed and tortured should go volunteer at an animal rescue organization. 6 million HEALTHY (not just old, dying animals, but kittens and puppies) shelter animals are killed each year because there isn't enough space. Instead of feeling so sorry for yourself for feeling sorry for the animals, GO HELP.

And you don't have to be a Pisces to have deep empathy and/or be emotionally distraught by horrific images and retain them. What a load of horse shit.



The numbers are shocking, so that to go "volunteer at an animal rescue organization" just supports the whole system and allows many so-called 'animal lovers (and hoarders)" to feel better about themselves. If "pet owners"..i love that term-> had to pass a basic pet care exam to get certified in a particular breed and spend some serious money to acquire a pet, maybe they wouldn't be shocked and go dump it in the woods or over to a shelter the first time it chewed their shoes or ripped up their sofa. Don't see too many $ 2,000 exotic birds getting "put down" (murdered?) at the shelter, do ya?
Certain cities in California are legislating to regulate breeding because they simply cannot afford to keep their death camps operating at these levels.
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Posted by pushit

All of you people who are talking about how much you love animals and can't stand the fact that they're being killed and tortured should go volunteer at an animal rescue organization.

And you don't have to be a Pisces to have deep empathy and/or be emotionally distraught by horrific images and retain them. What a load of horse shit.





1. I think people should ask what others actually do before they assume the people do nothing ..... to prevent making asses out of themselves.

2. I think people should be able to comprehend the implications when the question is posed ..... is it just me? Or Pisces? .. so that it is actually realized that it was referenced to mean that a sign was probably not the reason.



I read a tee shirt one time that read ..... don't underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers .... it looks like they come in small numbers also.
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Pisces people store alot of pictures in mind they never forget, I think we have picture memory instead of other types of memory. I dont know about other signs.

About animals, I dont like them to suffer but for me is about injustice.

I dont suffer by it because I did nothing wrong to them, but I will fight injustice if I can.

I think Volunteerting to help animals is not for everybody*, to me we should go to the source of the problem and try to teach or save people, its not the animals that need to be saved, we are, since we do it all, from caring to killing.

*Besides, I believe animals should live in nature, a house with a backyard for instance. I dont have one and I will never have an animal in these conditions, because It would be bad for the animal. People who have animals in apartments are not thinking about animals but about themselves.
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out of curiosity, how many of you pisces, with your uber sensitivity and depth of feeling are vegetarian? how many of you contribute to animal rights organizations such as peta, the aspca, spca, private animal rescue shelters...? how many of you purchase cruelty-free products and read labels to avoid products that contain animal by products?

for such a feeling sign who has a connection and empathy for all things big and small, one would think your sign would predominately live your life in service of the suffering. of all the possible ways to achieve this, one would think being a vegetarian or volunteering or taking in an abused animal would be the least you could do right?

how many of you even own an animal? did you get it from a shelter? do you do the "least" you could do or do your tears and laments suffice? you're pisces after all. one tear from you could fill the oceans...or some bullshit like that right?
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I'll give you one thing, though, Tubby knows her fixed signs well (tauruses ARE arrogant f**ks as well. Did you notice I didn't mention scorpio just then?).

Except, we aquas, uhm, don't really hide the arrogance that much.

Hell, I'll say it - f**k the other eleven signs - aquas rule! So all you losers can suck it!

*unzips jeans*

There you go. That's right. Form a straight line. And no cutting, Virgos - i'll be damned if you don't get a turn...



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Posted by caligula
out of curiosity, how many of you pisces, with your uber sensitivity and depth of feeling are vegetarian? how many of you contribute to animal rights organizations such as peta, the aspca, spca, private animal rescue shelters...? how many of you purchase cruelty-free products and read labels to avoid products that contain animal by products?

for such a feeling sign who has a connection and empathy for all things big and small, one would think your sign would predominately live your life in service of the suffering. of all the possible ways to achieve this, one would think being a vegetarian or volunteering or taking in an abused animal would be the least you could do right?

how many of you even own an animal? did you get it from a shelter? do you do the "least" you could do or do your tears and laments suffice? you're pisces after all. one tear from you could fill the oceans...or some bullshit like that right?


most serial killers are pisces? so no
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Seriously though, all of you have a point. From Tubby to P-Angel who kind of pointed out that Tubby's jabs which were'nt exactly aimed at her but were, to AA, to me, to VB.

The consensus: cruelty and suffering are awful things to witness. And just like suicidal types, people may have opinions on empathy and stuff but when it all comes down to it they avoid suffering and do NOTHING.

That animl being skinned alive vid was **ing awful, though.

It doesn't make you want to do something to help the animal.

It makes you want to do something to the person being cruel. Something terrible.

Which should tll you that YOU ARE NO DIFFERENT FROM THEY (you are, but you at the sam time you aren't having not reached your point of no return yet).
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Posted by &2gedanow
I'll give you one thing, though, Tubby knows her fixed signs well (tauruses ARE arrogant f**ks as well. Did you notice I didn't mention scorpio just then?).

Except, we aquas, uhm, don't really hide the arrogance that much.

Hell, I'll say it - f**k the other eleven signs - aquas rule! So all you losers can suck it!

*unzips jeans*

There you go. That's right. Form a straight line. And no cutting, Virgos - i'll be damned if you don't get a turn...





This is hilarious. 🙂
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Posted by venusianbull
And geesh, even the evening news can make me cry dependent on the subject matter. Cannot stomach cruelty to animals and all of that. I abhor violence in that manner.



You know what else is evil? Crucifixion and stoning. These two are very barbaric methods of execution.

Just THINKING about them makes me feel like I and everyone on this death should be DEAD.

We are a bit TOO evil, man.

I mean, how can you PULL AN ANIMAL'S SKIN OFF OF IT WHILE IT IS STILL BREATHING?

That's a bit TOO much callousness. You'd have to have witnessed wickedness from the very first DAY you were born.

God FUCKING damn.
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Still Tubbmeister is right: however much I express disgust, it'll still happen and I'll do nothing about it.

So shame on me as much as shame on THEM (the animal cruelty guys).

If he/she is real, God needs to either wipe us all out again and never repopulate the earth or go fuck him/herself with the whole "choice" argument.

'cos the things that go on on this earth prove that hell is right here.

Fuck...
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I haven't a clue, I really don't. They experience pain the same as we do and it makes me sick to even contemplate it. Things like this right here are why it isn't necessary for me to let mass media saturate into every pore. The horror is right outside the door. All the time. Everywhere. And if people think this kind of thing doesn't occur in their neck of the woods, think again. 😢 There are some pretty damned sick tickets in the world.
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Posted by P-Angel
... I envision everything.

People say that Pisces have good imaginations, and I think that these people are misunderstanding the term "imagination" as it refers to us.

We aren't especially better than other people at thinking shit up, the actual basis for the creation ... rather, we enter the creation.

It's hard to explain ..... people look at a painting and make assesments, judgements, comments on the painting as it being external to them as their eyes observe ..... whereas WE envision the reality of the painting as if we are inside of it.

Hopefully Pisces people get that.


So, this envisioning that I speak of is huge to my life, and I wonder if other Pisces are like this ... once I have something in my mind, an image ... it is cemented.

It will constantly pop in my head ... clearly.



Empathy and Visualization? Or better said, the ability to put yourself in someone else's shoes or situation?
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Well, it's nice to know that I'm not the other one who has images implanted into their psyche .... it isn't so nice that people can't comprehend the subject of a thread.

For those of you who don't get it .. this isn't about animals .. it's about the mind.



So, back to topic ...

I was watching Maury once and saw a clip of where a family had a video in a house where they had a sitter watching their elderly mother, and the sitter was beating up the elderly lady in her wheel chair ... yeah, that stayed with me for a very long time also .. my mind kept playing it over and over.
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Posted by SatoriFierce

Exactly, VH, I think we need some clarification here. I think that having a good imagination (which Pisceans are known for) certainly can aid someone in being empathetic because you are able to put yourself in others' shoes... but you don't necessarily need a good imagination to be empathetic and having one doesn't necessarily make you empathetic either.







Satori .. no clarification needed, I already explained the Piscean imagination. And I wasn't talking about empathy.


I'm talking about a snapshot that gets implanted into the Piscean psyche, calling it an image.
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Posted by P-Angel
Well, it's nice to know that I'm not the other one who has images implanted into their psyche .... it isn't so nice that people can't comprehend the subject of a thread.

For those of you who don't get it .. this isn't about animals .. it's about the mind.



So, back to topic ...

I was watching Maury once and saw a clip of where a family had a video in a house where they had a sitter watching their elderly mother, and the sitter was beating up the elderly lady in her wheel chair ... yeah, that stayed with me for a very long time also .. my mind kept playing it over and over.


i know exactly what you were talking about unfortunately. i couldn't get the image out of my head (and sound) when i say that american guy get beheaded. in very good quality!

and do those animals survive? i think it's how much the human and anaimal bodies can put up with before they eventually die.
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hey, until your sitting there watching an animal being skinned alive or someone getting hurt there's no need to have these imprints or feel any real guilt. but i would feel terrible if i were actually there witnessing these horrible events unfold. because you could of done something about it but you didn't.

but unfortunately it's a common thing for people to just sit and watch and not do anything and act as if nothing is happening. but i digress...
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Posted by SatoriFierce

Exactly, VH, I think we need some clarification here. I think that having a good imagination (which Pisceans are known for) certainly can aid someone in being empathetic because you are able to put yourself in others' shoes... but you don't necessarily need a good imagination to be empathetic and having one doesn't necessarily make you empathetic either.







Satori .. no clarification needed, I already explained the Piscean imagination. And I wasn't talking about empathy.


I'm talking about a snapshot that gets implanted into the Piscean psyche, calling it an image.
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got your point from the jump.

what i am disputing is the notion that it's due to your being piscean 😛
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When I look at paintingss of scenery, especially if there are a bunch by one artist, to me not only am I in the field its as if I'm traveling around in the artist's mind and not necessarily the setting and its just beautiful. Sometimes I interact with the environment when I feel I'm alone.

I can't look at pictures of dead bodies, tortured, or blood and gore. Can't watch those movies either.

Maybe nine years ago one day we got pictures in the mail. Turns out those pictures where of my dead grandfather. My parents and their parents were Catholic so they do the open casket thing. My mom showed me a picture of my dead grandfather's body. I didn't know him well at all. But when I saw the picture I felt a horrible sense of anger and fear. She told me he died from a heart attack. I cried once I was alone. I guess he left the world on bitter terms. A year prior I felt something was up. I guess he and my dad weren't on good terms because they kept yelling at each other on the phone. Anyway, for a good few months his dead face was left imprinted in my head and I was a little out of it for a while trying to erase it.
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Posted by Amandus
When I look at paintingss of scenery, especially if there are a bunch by one artist, to me not only am I in the field its as if I'm traveling around in the artist's mind and not necessarily the setting and its just beautiful. Sometimes I interact with the environment when I feel I'm alone.

I can't look at pictures of dead bodies, tortured, or blood and gore. Can't watch those movies either.

Maybe nine years ago one day we got pictures in the mail. Turns out those pictures where of my dead grandfather. My parents and their parents were Catholic so they do the open casket thing. My mom showed me a picture of my dead grandfather's body. I didn't know him well at all. But when I saw the picture I felt a horrible sense of anger and fear. She told me he died from a heart attack. I cried once I was alone. I guess he left the world on bitter terms. A year prior I felt something was up. I guess he and my dad weren't on good terms because they kept yelling at each other on the phone. Anyway, for a good few months his dead face was left imprinted in my head and I was a little out of it for a while trying to erase it.





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