Pisces woman swam away from me. Can I fix it?
First off I should mention I am a Virgo. So anytime there is a problem my inclination is to fix it.
Anyway I've been dating this girl for a little over a month. We were old friends who have recently decided to start dating after she told me she had a dream we were on a date. First date went great. Probably the best first date I've ever been on. Conversation never ended and we ended up having our first and second kiss that night.
So we decided to have a second date. She lives a few hours away from me and she invited me over for the weekend. Things went very well much like the first time. Until the last morning of my visit. The times we were intimate I couldn't finish. The first time it happened not a big deal. 2nd time it happened she got distant and became upset or frustrated.
So in the morning. I told her I was nervous due to her insisting on having unprotected sex (bad idea I know please spare me the details). I tried a few times to get a condom and she was not letting me so I assumed she was on birth control and didn't want to insult her by insisting on a condom cause I really liked her. So in the morning I tell her this, she confirms she is on birth control, and it seems to make her feel better about it but still distant. My thoughts are that this has fed some of her insecurities and low self esteem. I think she probably feels that I find her unattractive or that she can't satisfy me intimately. Which is far from true.
So I panic and write her a letter where I basically tell her how I feel about her..not that I love her but that I really really like her and I give it to her before I left. Now she has disappeared and I haven't heard from her in a few days. I've tried texting and calling her once and haven't received any replies
I know that she probably needs some space to think about things and that maybe I came on too strong. Honestly I feel like she may come back around once she she stops thinking about it and start following her heart/feelings because I know she likes me.
But I feel like contacting her will just make it worse and I should just wait for her to contact me if and when she is ready. I don't feel like I have done anything wrong I just told her how I felt and now *poof* she's gone.
Any advice from a pisces female perspective on how to deal with this fish retreating will be greatly appreciated. I really like this woman and I'm afraid that I've lost her.
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Aug 05, 2008Comments: 38 · Posts: 3918 · Topics: 108
Sounds to me like someone's broody....
Regardless, if she does not respect your wish to use protection then why would you want her back?
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Aug 05, 2008Comments: 38 · Posts: 3918 · Topics: 108
I mean really.
"I tried a few times to get a condom and she was not letting me"
Her preferring not to use one is one thing but not letting you is quite another.
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Feb 04, 2013Comments: 1 · Posts: 9186 · Topics: 179
Posted by PVAF
I would be weary of any partner who insists on me having unprotected sex with them before I am comfortable. Just be more assertive about that from now on. If you've reached out to her via phone and text already, there is not much more you can do. 
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Feb 04, 2013Comments: 1 · Posts: 9186 · Topics: 179
This is actually a case, where the penis thought correctly for him 
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Hell..then again with the way some women are today, she's probably taking fertility drugs. I actually knew of a case like that. She stuck the guy in child support with triplets! Used her friends left over fertility pills. Nice pay check he's forking over to her.
NY is 29% of your income for three kids.
You sure you wanna *fix* things?
No I don't think she is trying to trap me.
She hasn't had very many serious relationships and is not the type to have a one night stand. For her the sex has to mean something.
But yes I agree with you all that it was kind if off putting and that lead to the nervousness of it all.
At this point it's its just speculation as to why she didn't want to use one.
But why the disappearing act?
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Mar 03, 2012Comments: 214 · Posts: 1468 · Topics: 21
Posted by Orestes09
No I don't think she is trying to trap me.
She hasn't had very many serious relationships and is not the type to have a one night stand. For her the sex has to mean something.
But yes I agree with you all that it was kind if off putting and that lead to the nervousness of it all.
At this point it's its just speculation as to why she didn't want to use one.
But why the disappearing act?
She need space,don't worry she will come back.Posted by 88Doble
what's her moon?
She is a libra moon.I too will feel bad if the guy didn't finish, coz ill start blaming myself. So it happened twice, that can make her think that she could be doing something wrong and this could make her hibernate since it didn't go the way she wanted it to go. Just be steady with her and show her some love, she'll eventually get over it and come around
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Posted by Orestes09
after she told me she had a dream we were on a date.
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Posted by Orestes09
her insisting on having unprotected sex
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= She's setting you up. I hope I'm wrong but I don't like what I see here.
Think of yourself first..we sometimes get wrapped in our mental scenarios about people's behavior and justifying it in a lot of ways..we miss the forest because we're focused on the trees.
If the notion of "child support" does not scare you, proceed.I also think the letter that I wrote might have a lot to do with it as well. As in it was probably too much too soon. She likes to go with the flow and take things slowly and I think that might have just made things worse by coming on too strong and that made her back off a bit : \
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Dec 18, 2013Comments: 19 · Posts: 794 · Topics: 16
i'm not a pisces female.. but a virgo in something with a pisces.. and oy these pisces/virgo relationships! hard work!! one thing i see in common is the communication issue. at some point in time, both parties, as polar opposites, will have to step out of their comfort zone to communicate with the other, in which cases sometimes both parties will, sometimes only one does, sometimes none. i think to a certain extent the success of the relationship depends on that... the willingness to do so. what i realized in this whole thing is things tend to come at a full circle in the end and sometimes it's just best to wait it out after having extended the branch of communication rather than aggravate the situation. it's kind of like what pisces boy says he tends to do... he swims... but from the other party's perspective it might look as if he's swimming away but really he's just swimming around. round and round... full circle. maybe that's what your pisces girl is doing, no doubt after feeling embarrassed and insecure. but if it's you she's swimming around, i'm sure she'll come back to you.
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Posted by tiziani
Just keep in mind you want someone who considers your feelings too.
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Posted by Orestes09
after she told me she had a dream we were on a date.
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Posted by Orestes09
her insisting on having unprotected sex
I hope I'm wrong but I don't like what I see here.
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Apr 13, 2005Comments: 0 · Posts: 44084 · Topics: 685
There's so many holes in your story.
You say you're not comfortable doing something ... then turn around and do it.
You say you can't get it up ... but, insist it is far from the truth to say she doesn't turn you on.
You talk about pregnancy as if this is the only consideration of unprotected sex.
You say you didn't want to insult her by pushing the condom desire .... yet, you have zero awareness that to not be able to get it up for her is more insulting.
Why don't you know that would be more insulting? So, the assumption here is that you lied when you said you didn't want to insult her .... the truth is more likely, you didn't want to ruin your opportunity to getting her pants off.
Why would you panic? Are you a little girl with no emotional strength?
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Apr 13, 2005Comments: 0 · Posts: 44084 · Topics: 685
Where's your logical mind?
Why can't you chew on all of this yourself, and need other people to tell you the obvious?
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I am co-signing whoever in here said something along the lines of ....
Why would you want to be with a person who would use manipulation to coerce you into doing something against your better judgment?
That is, unless of course ... you don't actually have good judgment.
Haha. Ruin my opportunity to get her pants off....that's cute. Way to judge there. Far from the truth.
Where in my story did I say I can't get it up? That wasn't the issue. Again far from it. The issue was that I couldn't reach orgasm. I didn't come. She did. I didn't. Not getting it up is a different issue. One I fortunately don't have.
It takes a while for me to get used to someone in bed and figure out what they like and for them to know what I like so we can both reach orgasm. That comes with time and communication.
I know that she does not sleep around cause we are friends and I trust her so my biggest concern was pregnancy.
Also when you like somebody you might do things you aren't necessarily comfortable with because you really like them. Have you not stepped out of your comfort zone or tried something new before for your partner/someone you have feelings for?
I panicked because I have been in this situation before with a woman who had plenty of insecurities and was really fkd up. So when I didn't orgasm. She would think the worst and break down. Leading to crying, false accusations, and assumptions. That didn't help the situation and in turn only made it worse. So yeah I panicked because I've been in this boat before and It didnt turn out so great.
So I tried to make her feel better by telling her that I really like her.
My logical mind is In tact. Most people agree with me about what's going on and how to handle it. I do like to hear different perspectives. Hence this wonderful thread.
You, little girl, should learn to read and stop hurling insults like the child you are. You may now go back to whatever rock you live under troll. Thanks!
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Posted by Orestes09
So in the morning. I told her I was nervous due to her insisting on having unprotected sex ...
So in the morning I tell her this ....
My thoughts are that this has fed some of her insecurities and low self esteem.
According to what you are saying below, not climaxing is something that is normal for you, since you're so used to it, that you know what kind of an emotional reaction the girl will have, which causes you to panic.
So, in reality .. the above is a lie. You led her to believe that it was about the condom, when it wasn't about the condom .. it was about YOU.
And then go on further to STATE that she has some insecurities and low self esteem ... so, you've made it about her having these faulty qualities, eventhough below tells us that this whole issue is your problem.
Posted by Orestes09
I panicked because I have been in this situation before with a woman who had plenty of insecurities and was really fkd up. So when I didn't orgasm. She would think the worst and break down. Leading to crying, false accusations, and assumptions. That didn't help the situation and in turn only made it worse. So yeah I panicked because I've been in this boat before and It didnt turn out so great.
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Furthermore, to state, "I panicked because I have been in this situation before with a woman who had plenty of insecurities and was really fkd up.", is in essence, you saying that this woman you are talking about is fucked up with plenty of insecurities.Signed Up:
Apr 13, 2005Comments: 0 · Posts: 44084 · Topics: 685
Well, aren't you a fucking prize.
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Posted by P-Angel
You say you're not comfortable doing something ... then turn around and do it.
You talk about pregnancy as if this is the only consideration of unprotected sex.
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Why would you want to be with a person who would use manipulation to coerce you into doing something against your better judgment?
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You didn't address any of those ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Posted by P-Angel
.... the truth is more likely, you didn't want to ruin your opportunity to getting her pants off.
And that ^^^^^^^ is exactly why you fucked her without a condom, upon her insistence, if you are indeed this conscientious man who is concerned about not being protected.
A person who actually ... IS ... concerned about fucking without protection = acts like it.
The ONLY reason you did it at her persistence is because you knew you wouldn't get the opportunity to fuck her.
Your stay here isn't going to go well, if you don't have the courage to be honest .... you're full of smoke and mirrors, and it's obvious because your tongue says one thing, while your actions say something else.
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Posted by Orestes09
I tried a few times to get a condom and she was not letting me so I assumed she was on birth control and didn't want to insult her by insisting on a condom cause I really liked her.
And why, exactly, would that be insulting?
If a person reads between the lines, it becomes apparent that you're full of shit because a woman isn't going to be insulted if a guy insists on using a condom. So, instead of you being honest and telling us that you did it anyway because it's the only way you would gain access to her snatch .... you lie.
Because there's no logical reason for anyone to believe that wanting to use a condom is insulting.
I can see how fucked up you are because your lies are obvious ..... she probably sees it too.
Talking about insecurities, and seeing how you like to talk about women having insecurities ... I'll bet a man who can't climax is fucking full of them.
You're transparent ..... and the bottom line to all of this is that the likely reason why she jumped stream on you is because she also realizes you're full of bullshit.You don't know me. So please stop acting like you do. A HUGE part of not being able to climax happens when I'm nervous which creates performance anxiety. As I stated prior it also takes me a while to be 100% comfortable with someone I'm intimate with so I don't always climax right away.
I was indeed nervous because I didn't know if she was on BC that is absolutely true. So I could not get lost in the sex and just enjoy it. It was in the back my mind.
My past relationship with said ex also lead to performance anxiety as well due to again being nervous. In this case nervous that she would react the way she did and she didn't help make it any better. By the time we were ready to try and communicate about it the relationship had already deteriorated to the point of no return. So yes this past experience created an insecurity for myself and I'm dealing with it now.
I didn't want things to get that bad with this woman so I sent her a msg the following morning with the intent of telling her about this prior experience and the intimacy issues.
I told her that I left some things unsaid that would help her understand what happened, why I reacted that way, and where I'm coming from. I just haven't been able to tell her this since she obviously does not want to talk at this time.
We all have our insecurities P-Angel. This girl does, my ex did, I do, I'm sure you have yours as well. I really like this girl. So I'll take her as is the good and bad. Because at least for now her good outweighs her bad.
I can admit to my insecurity and had every intention of sharing this with her. If it's too late so be it lesson learned. I'll move on. My hope is that she doesn't let these things be left unsaid and communicates with me so we can both move past this. Again hence this thread.
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You just ignore it all, so you can continue to whine about your little feelings.
Answer the question: why did you fuck her without a condom? And give the utter bullshit because you didn't want to insult her .... because we all have more than one brain cell here, and we know it wasn't about insulting.
You can't even be honest.
She sees that, certainly ... I see it on a forum.
If you really want to learn a lesson, then you're a fool if you think you are going to learn it by ignoring your responsibility.
Be a fucking man and communicate to the woman that YOU .... YOU ... have issues, rather than lead her to believe something else, and then place the burden on her to think she's not enough to please you.
You fucking piece of shit. Other people may come in here and coddle you, saying oh poor you ... fuck that and fuck you, asshole.
Here's what you fucking did for those who comprehend what they read ...... you took a woman to bed without telling her the problems with your dick, and then lead her to believe that she wasn't able to please you.
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Orestes09 - Welcome to DXP, lulz
P.S a lot of people here are very negative.
Don't let them ruin your day.
Lol thanks 88Doble.
I am fully aware this is the internet. So there are...Trolls. trolls. Everywhere.
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Posted by Orestes09
I told her that I left some things unsaid that would help her understand what happened, why I reacted that way, and where I'm coming from. I just haven't been able to tell her this since she obviously does not want to talk at this time.
I can admit to my insecurity and had every intention of sharing this with her.
You had no intention of sharing this with her, because if you did, your actions would represent that BEFORE you left her feeling not woman enough to get you off.
Tell the truth ..... you were hoping you could get off so you wouldn't have to tell her.
You weren't up front at all. Here you have all these people in here believing you were this sensitive man who's being ditched by a woman that you were nice to and upfront with ... but, that's a lie.
You didn't even attempt to communicate this issue you have until AFTER you hurt her feelings .... and then you had the audacity to come to other people (us) and make it sound like she is the one being unreasonable.
I don't even believe you about the condom, as you've led all these people to believe with your lie .... because any person with more than one brain cell would know that to insist on using a condom with a person you've only been dating a month isn't insulting. So, it's logical to assume you fabricated that to get pity responses.
Again ...... YOU, not her, YOU went to bed with her WITHOUT telling her that you won't climax, and then just let her leave believing she wasn't woman enough for you.
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You're a fucking piece of shit.Wow. P-Angel. You must be one of those "I'm always right types". Please relax. You seem really wound up here. You might need to get laid.
Isn't that what I just said? That I didn't tell her everything I should have. I didn't lie or intentionally try and make her feel like it was her fault and not woman enough for me. I just didn't tell her everything I should have. Realizing that was a mistake I wanted to rectify it.
I had sex with her without a condom because as I've already stated she is a friend and I trusted her.
My friend might take insisting on a condom as an insult because she may assume that I think she is lying about not sleeping around.
Of course I also wanted to sleep with her as well that's what two people who really like each other do.
The real issue here is that I feel I came on too strong so after all of the intimacy issues and the letter. It scared her off. That's the concern. It's not about my feelings. It's about her. About trying to understand her. It's not about me. So spare me that "you're playing the victim" card you are playing.
If I didn't really care about her this thread would not exist and I would have just simply moved on.
Just like I'm about to do with you. I don't care about what you have to say or how you feel so im moving on.
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Apparently, you are so stupid that you are incapable of getting it ... or maybe playing stupid is one of your games.
You didn't come on too strong, dumbass ... I've been telling you over and repeatedly ..... you treated her like fucking shit, and so she's out on you for actually being the dickhead who hide from his own goddamn insecure feelings from having penis problems ... by hurting her feelings.
You say, "I just didn't tell her everything I should have." ... as if you stubbed your little toe, as if that is equivalent.
You lied to her by leading her on into believing you were hot for you ... you are a muther fuker and you can try to act innocent all day long, but, it still doesn't change the fact that ..
.... it's NOT ok to fail to mention to her that you can't climax.
Here you are in here, acting like it's no big deal and that she should just understand and all go back to what it was ... that goes to prove how stupid you are.
I literally cannot tolerate dumb people, and how stupid does a Virgo really have to be to think they are emotionally superior over a Pisces, so to believe he has frightened the poor wee ittle thing.
jfc
You didn't scare her ... you fucking disrespected her, you fucking asswipe.
@orestes09
Ima Pisces female dating a Virgo male!!!
In the beginning of our relationship I thought he was alittle corn ball. It was something different than what I'm used to. We are complete opposites which is difficult
We had great foreplay in the beginning and just foreplay (intense makeup sessions, clothes ripped) but not sex
Our first sexual experience 3 months later sucked! He climaxed and I didn't. It was quick and I felt weird about it. Like why did he come so fast!! was it all the intense sessions built up, probably. But it made me feel weird. Because that's my first sex memory and It wasn't what I expected it to be. We Pisces or maybe just me, we like our lives to be like movie fantasies. Like I want the most intense sex, I want it to be memorable, I want it to be like it's a movie! And not just the sex the romance the communication. I like intensity. And I know sex without a condom feels better not just for men but women too! You feel everything, the warmth, you feel closer, the juices everything is better without a condom. (Sorry guys for being alil x rated) And she felt comfortable with you to not use one.
The first time with my Virgo we used one and that was the worst! Sorry he knows the first time I don't even count that time it was horrible.. The second time we didn't use one and I initiated it and it was soo amazing! I wasn't on birth control but we bought plan b the next day. He was alittle cautious that's understandable. I was too. If I was on birth control and I trust you and you trust me just go with the flow. You don't need one if your comfortable with your partner and know them! (No stds, and no trapping)
I feel like she knows exactly what's she's doing. She just wants you to trust her. And she wants to know that she satisfies you in everyway! I don't think she's trying to trap you and if you were to be afraid watch her take the pill everyday or buy the plan b for her.
Now maybe she's just trying to feel you out. A lot of things have happened. You guys had sex and you didn't climax mb she's taking it out on herself alittle bit. And questioning her performance.
Give her alittle space but not too much!
You said you gave her a letter. About how you felt about her.
How long were you friends before you wanted to kick things up a notch??
You seem alittle sensitive like too nice. Maybe she wants to see the bad boy in you too. Don't be so nice it's like the friend zone guy. Not saying dont be nice and be a jerk but sh @orestes09
You seem alittle sensitive like too nice. Maybe she wants to see the bad boy in you too. Don't be so nice it's like the friend zone guy. Not saying dont be nice and be a jerk but show her you can hold your own. Show her that you can take the lead of the relationship. And Communication!!!!
Coming from me a Pisces what I would like from my Virgo man
Is if he took charge, be spontaneous, surprise me, this can be sexual and other things not related to sex. We do not have good communication skills in our relationship! Go to the Virgo threads and read my my post lol Virgo military Pisces woman ull see what I'm experiencing.... But I need you to stimulate my mind. Now this can be about sex I feel Pisces women have a good sexual appetite! We like a lot of flirting. Txt her one day all the things u want to do to her I bet she'll love that! I would lol!! I have a sexual appetite like a Scorpio idk if all Pisces are the same but I'm guessing. Make her feel special, don't forget to ask about her day, be engaged in her life. Suggest things for her to do. We love smart men and being taught a thing or two.
Virgo well mines is a great cuddler and I love it.
I think what you should do is basically contact her tell her you want to see her on a particular day (pick one) and make the night special/ romantic and climax damn it! Then she'll feel like she can satisfy you. If she's not doing something enough tell her while your doing it. Direct her in a sexy way. Make her feel good tell her you love when she does this...... She'll keep doing it knowing that
I honestly just think that it was a weird experience and she doesn't know how to handle it. Next time make it so memorable shut those images up in her mind of the previous incidents! You just got to be more open, let go of all that stuff that's making it hard for you to finish. Be in the moment.
Sorry if I'm rambling a lot I'm tired and stumbled across this post and had to add my two cents in before bed since you needed to hear from a Pisces. I hope this helps a little!
Just tell her the truth that's the best thing we love a man whose 100% honest even if your embarrassed we will cherish that you shared that with us. But pls make your Pisces understand you! Have a good talk about everything. Make her feel good/sexy. Tell her everything she's doing right and direct her in the things that can help you climax
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Sep 27, 2013Comments: 96 · Posts: 1422 · Topics: 63
Sounds like you are disrespecting this person what is it you would like from her that you arent getting?
P-Angel: Thanks for the different perspective. It was exactly what I needed. The honest truth. This is about me and I hurt her feelings by leading her to believe it's about her. I just need to swallow my pride and apologize. I just hope it's not too late and I apologize to you as well. Thank you for the insight.
Pisces Goddess: thanks for sharing your story as well. You made
Me remember that we're opposites. She's never been the one who opens up the lines of communication. That's been me. I'm the one in the relationship who does that. That's just not her and I needed a reminder of that. So thank you. We both compliment each other and make up for what the other lacks. If I don't communicate with her about this...then she is not and I needed that reminder.
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Dec 07, 2011Comments: 33 · Posts: 13769 · Topics: 154
What? You can't climax? OK, I thought you were good friends??_ why didn't this come up BEFORE?? That's like some trick you pulled on her. Sure, she feels played.
Actually PiscesGoddess after reading your thread . WOAH! You are kind of all over the place with your emotions. I wish you luck with your relationship.
Also I think I'm just gonna chill and give her space. Think that's the best course of action. But it's good that I now have an idea of how I fucked up.
Now just gotta wait and see what happens.
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Apr 07, 2011Comments: 0 · Posts: 1325 · Topics: 0
why are you bothered about this woman ? someone who *insists* to go unprotected knowing you felt uneasy and she knew this because you insisted to use one...
This woman is obviously not health conscious with what's out there to insist no condom on when you first got intimate...
maybe she wants a kid ?
probably your letter was too much and she just wanted sex...maybe just casual...
either way...I would move on from someone like her who ignores your replies...only crap comes from insenstive
TIP..never ever do something for someone as dangerous as not using a condom *just* to spare an insult...no one is worth getting a disease and you don't know her background...friend or not..only takes one person to catch and doesn't make you slutty...however she should be kicked to the curb for the mere fact of continuously refusing a condom...BIG RED FLAG...
anyone can say they are on birth control...etc....
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Any woman that insists you don't wrap up, you should probably run from. I suspect you get this, so I don't understand your questions.
Not being able to climax is more common than you would think and yes it can stem from nerves. No biggie there but I can imagine she would be feeling a bit weirded out by it and thinking she's not good enough in bed etc.
Next time I would still insist on a condom and if the other person still insists on you NOT wearing one I would question why.
My first thought was she's trying to get herself knocked up. If you can supply the spermies (ie not being able to enjaculate) then you're no good to her.
Don't be so trusting, some women really are that sneaky.
As for whether you should hope for her to swim back, if she doesn't have the good manners to text you back, then really I would be moving on myself. If she's upset about you not finishing then she lacks teh ability to communicate which unless that is addressed will lead to relationship failure. If she's trying to get herself knocked up then RUUUUUN!