Tiffani
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Please Help! Cap female/Pisces male (PART ONE)
Continued....)))))))))))
I saw him several months later, one night when he visited the store. He went on a delivery with me and out of the blue, he kissed me. I could still see the desire for me in his dreamy expression. After that night, we lost touch until a few weeks ago.
Fast forward a bit...
I am still with the same woman, who I DO love, but the passion isn't there anymore. Neither of us could survive financially on our own, at the moment. We have a house and pets to take care of. I know that she loves me more than she's loved anyone else, and I feel the same way about her, though scars from the past have taken their toll. For instance, we make love about once every 2-3 months, these days. I am a very sexual and sensual person and I've had to learn how to cope with the rejection from her. She's always tired, or needing to wake early in the morning, etc. I do not feel that she's being unfaithful, and I know her well enough to make a clear judgment call on that.
So, while I'm sex and affection starved, I start dreaming about him. For several nights, I dreamt of the two of us, (Pisces male and me), making love, cuddling and laughing together. After the 6th dream, I decided to track him down. So, I looked up his father in the phone directory, who gave me his current cell phone number.
I called him and foolishly told him about my dreams and desires for him, again. He couldn't speak freely because his now teenage kids were around, though he seemed flattered and easy-going about it. My expressions were intensified due to the fact that it was surreal just talking to him, and due to my suppressed passion and desires in my relationship, as it is. Still, revealing so much, out of the sky into his lap was probably not a good idea. He did tell me that he had thought about me but couldn't remember my last name to track me down.
I found out that he is now divorced, but living with a woman who he doesn't want to be in a relationship with. Apparently, they've known each other since school and started to hang out after he was divorced. He said that at first, both of them had full freedom to see whoever they wanted to see, but their interaction became so frequent that now they are basically married, minus the paper. He is not happy in this arrangement and says the he's tried to break it off before, but that something always happened that kept them together.
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I saw him several months later, one night when he visited the store. He went on a delivery with me and out of the blue, he kissed me. I could still see the desire for me in his dreamy expression. After that night, we lost touch until a few weeks ago.
Fast forward a bit...
I am still with the same woman, who I DO love, but the passion isn't there anymore. Neither of us could survive financially on our own, at the moment. We have a house and pets to take care of. I know that she loves me more than she's loved anyone else, and I feel the same way about her, though scars from the past have taken their toll. For instance, we make love about once every 2-3 months, these days. I am a very sexual and sensual person and I've had to learn how to cope with the rejection from her. She's always tired, or needing to wake early in the morning, etc. I do not feel that she's being unfaithful, and I know her well enough to make a clear judgment call on that.
So, while I'm sex and affection starved, I start dreaming about him. For several nights, I dreamt of the two of us, (Pisces male and me), making love, cuddling and laughing together. After the 6th dream, I decided to track him down. So, I looked up his father in the phone directory, who gave me his current cell phone number.
I called him and foolishly told him about my dreams and desires for him, again. He couldn't speak freely because his now teenage kids were around, though he seemed flattered and easy-going about it. My expressions were intensified due to the fact that it was surreal just talking to him, and due to my suppressed passion and desires in my relationship, as it is. Still, revealing so much, out of the sky into his lap was probably not a good idea. He did tell me that he had thought about me but couldn't remember my last name to track me down.
I found out that he is now divorced, but living with a woman who he doesn't want to be in a relationship with. Apparently, they've known each other since school and started to hang out after he was divorced. He said that at first, both of them had full freedom to see whoever they wanted to see, but their interaction became so frequent that now they are basically married, minus the paper. He is not happy in this arrangement and says the he's tried to break it off before, but that something always happened that kept them together.
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Cont...
When hinting about us picking up where we left off, as far as making unrushed love, he told me that we would need to gain approval from our partners, beforehand. My partner will allow me to occasionally sleep with men, knowing that I'm bisexual and that occasionally, I desire to be with a man. I haven't taken her up on the offer though. He told me that his partner would need to approve of whomever he is to sleep with, and that she claims to be ok with him sleeping with women she approves of.
We made plans for a visit. He told me to call him 3 days from then to get directions to his house. Emotional me, called him the next day, just to hear his voice. After that call, I waited until that Friday (the original 3 day period), to call him for directions to his home for the next day.
Saturday...
I visited him and his girlfriend, who in my opinion seemed a bit insecure. She had this need to showcase her sexuality by slipping in tidbits about her escapades, at any opportunity, almost as if I were supposed to be impressed or shocked. I don't shock easily and little does she know about what lives in my erotic mind. As a Capricorn, I am outwardly reserved, but my desire, passion and sense of kink runs deeper than even "he" is aware of...
I could tell that she was a little jealous by the way she would so subtly but nastily tell him that she wanted something too, in regard to the times he would get a refreshment for me and not ask her if she wanted something, also. I do not know if he normally serves her or what, but she seemed a little miffed. Also, out of the blue, she tells him..." 'Dana (a friend of hers), told me that I've got you wrapped around my finger." I couldn't believe it! He didn't seem to care for the remark either, but he hid it well. Still, I could tell it bothered him, as it would most people.
When him and I would talk, she would look at him, seeming trying to read his face. She was searching his face for something. He was very respectful of her and didn't oogle over me or anything, (though I looked better than he's ever seen me)...
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When hinting about us picking up where we left off, as far as making unrushed love, he told me that we would need to gain approval from our partners, beforehand. My partner will allow me to occasionally sleep with men, knowing that I'm bisexual and that occasionally, I desire to be with a man. I haven't taken her up on the offer though. He told me that his partner would need to approve of whomever he is to sleep with, and that she claims to be ok with him sleeping with women she approves of.
We made plans for a visit. He told me to call him 3 days from then to get directions to his house. Emotional me, called him the next day, just to hear his voice. After that call, I waited until that Friday (the original 3 day period), to call him for directions to his home for the next day.
Saturday...
I visited him and his girlfriend, who in my opinion seemed a bit insecure. She had this need to showcase her sexuality by slipping in tidbits about her escapades, at any opportunity, almost as if I were supposed to be impressed or shocked. I don't shock easily and little does she know about what lives in my erotic mind. As a Capricorn, I am outwardly reserved, but my desire, passion and sense of kink runs deeper than even "he" is aware of...
I could tell that she was a little jealous by the way she would so subtly but nastily tell him that she wanted something too, in regard to the times he would get a refreshment for me and not ask her if she wanted something, also. I do not know if he normally serves her or what, but she seemed a little miffed. Also, out of the blue, she tells him..." 'Dana (a friend of hers), told me that I've got you wrapped around my finger." I couldn't believe it! He didn't seem to care for the remark either, but he hid it well. Still, I could tell it bothered him, as it would most people.
When him and I would talk, she would look at him, seeming trying to read his face. She was searching his face for something. He was very respectful of her and didn't oogle over me or anything, (though I looked better than he's ever seen me)...
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Cont...
I told them that I should be going and his neck snapped towards me. His eyes said, "Don't go."
At the end of the night, he walked me out to my car, with her in the house still. He stood by my car while I got inside. I needed to feel him, so I told him that he was due a hug. I got out of my car and he wrapped his arms around me and let me tell you...it felt as if I had been away over seas for years, and had finally come home. He held me tight and rubbed my back with both hands while he sighed and breathed deeply. Our embrace felt totally natural and "right." I pulled away from him, but he had my hand in his. He looked at me and told me to keep in touch. I told him that I would.
Since then, we've talked a few times, most notably was about a week ago. Finally, we were able to have a deep discussion about the pros and cons of moving further. He said that he and his girlfriend's relationship was screwed up and happened the "wrong way."He agreed that our interaction years ago was always more than physical. He even added that it "happened the right way." He agreed that our embrace felt natural and right, and he told me that he had wanted to know how I felt about our hug.
He told me that he was planning on sitting down with his gf after the holidays to tell her that they should break to see other people. He added that if he tells me that they've broken up, it wouldn't be because of me, so I wouldn't feel guilty. I didn't understand where that came from. Though, I believe that he wanted me to be aware of his desire to be relationship free (without saying the actual words).
He also told me to that he isn't interested in a relationship with anyone, that he never had a chance to be single after his divorce. Also, he told me about his neighbor, whom he's flirted with and a very longtime friend whom he's never slept with. He said that he told her that they should sleep together just once, based on how they always flirt around. This came from me telling him that I wanted to make love to him at least one time, the "right" way. Really, it was all vague, but the message I got was that he wanted me to be aware that he wants his freedom to see whom he chooses. Anyway, I asked him if he felt that we should have sex again. His response was "I would enjoy it." Though, that really tells me squat. Of course, he would enjoy it, but does he want to? That's what I wanted to know. Still, I didn't press for an answer.
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I told them that I should be going and his neck snapped towards me. His eyes said, "Don't go."
At the end of the night, he walked me out to my car, with her in the house still. He stood by my car while I got inside. I needed to feel him, so I told him that he was due a hug. I got out of my car and he wrapped his arms around me and let me tell you...it felt as if I had been away over seas for years, and had finally come home. He held me tight and rubbed my back with both hands while he sighed and breathed deeply. Our embrace felt totally natural and "right." I pulled away from him, but he had my hand in his. He looked at me and told me to keep in touch. I told him that I would.
Since then, we've talked a few times, most notably was about a week ago. Finally, we were able to have a deep discussion about the pros and cons of moving further. He said that he and his girlfriend's relationship was screwed up and happened the "wrong way."He agreed that our interaction years ago was always more than physical. He even added that it "happened the right way." He agreed that our embrace felt natural and right, and he told me that he had wanted to know how I felt about our hug.
He told me that he was planning on sitting down with his gf after the holidays to tell her that they should break to see other people. He added that if he tells me that they've broken up, it wouldn't be because of me, so I wouldn't feel guilty. I didn't understand where that came from. Though, I believe that he wanted me to be aware of his desire to be relationship free (without saying the actual words).
He also told me to that he isn't interested in a relationship with anyone, that he never had a chance to be single after his divorce. Also, he told me about his neighbor, whom he's flirted with and a very longtime friend whom he's never slept with. He said that he told her that they should sleep together just once, based on how they always flirt around. This came from me telling him that I wanted to make love to him at least one time, the "right" way. Really, it was all vague, but the message I got was that he wanted me to be aware that he wants his freedom to see whom he chooses. Anyway, I asked him if he felt that we should have sex again. His response was "I would enjoy it." Though, that really tells me squat. Of course, he would enjoy it, but does he want to? That's what I wanted to know. Still, I didn't press for an answer.
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Cont...
I told him that though I felt that he is a soul mate, I didn't want to be in a relationship with him, either and that I respect his wishes, etc. In truth, it would be extremely complicated for me to break up with my girl and move along with him, but I realize that he and I would make a great couple. I didn't tell him this, though. I did tell him that I felt us messing around could be dangerous in the sense that one or both of us might want to be together more than once. He seemed to want to "commit" to having sex- once only, though he never actually said that he would with me, at all.
He expressed that he wouldn't want me to feel guilty and I assured him that I would not, which is the truth. He also expressed that he didn't want anyone to get hurt. So, I asked him if he felt that I would be hurt if we progressed. He responded, saying that he felt I was old enough to know what I was doing. I assured him that my partner wouldn't be hurt because I would tell her that I would be "seeing" someone else. There are two guys I could mention that would hurt her if she knew I was wanting to see them- Pisces is one of those men.
He said that it doesn't bother him that I've popped back up, again. He added that there are women whom he wouldn't want to talk to again, if they were to call and go "off of the deep end," but that I wasn't one of them. I didn't necessarily take that as a compliment or an insult, just kind of ...well ok....?
I told him that I felt that his girlfriend wasn't fond of me. He said that she did, to which I responded that she had "reservations" about me. I could feel it and see it as thick as you may. At the time of this call, his son and his son's female friend were at his house. Apparently she wanted Pisces' attention, and from out of nowhere he says, " 'Girlfriend' isn't jealous of you, but 'son's friend' is." Of course, this was in a joking manner. I had no idea where that came from, given the fact that I had not told him that I felt that she was jealous (even though I felt that vibe). Instead, I told him that I felt that she had reservations about me. The two are not necessarily mutually exclusive. I wonder if he was trying to project the opposite truth by volunteering this information.
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I told him that though I felt that he is a soul mate, I didn't want to be in a relationship with him, either and that I respect his wishes, etc. In truth, it would be extremely complicated for me to break up with my girl and move along with him, but I realize that he and I would make a great couple. I didn't tell him this, though. I did tell him that I felt us messing around could be dangerous in the sense that one or both of us might want to be together more than once. He seemed to want to "commit" to having sex- once only, though he never actually said that he would with me, at all.
He expressed that he wouldn't want me to feel guilty and I assured him that I would not, which is the truth. He also expressed that he didn't want anyone to get hurt. So, I asked him if he felt that I would be hurt if we progressed. He responded, saying that he felt I was old enough to know what I was doing. I assured him that my partner wouldn't be hurt because I would tell her that I would be "seeing" someone else. There are two guys I could mention that would hurt her if she knew I was wanting to see them- Pisces is one of those men.
He said that it doesn't bother him that I've popped back up, again. He added that there are women whom he wouldn't want to talk to again, if they were to call and go "off of the deep end," but that I wasn't one of them. I didn't necessarily take that as a compliment or an insult, just kind of ...well ok....?
I told him that I felt that his girlfriend wasn't fond of me. He said that she did, to which I responded that she had "reservations" about me. I could feel it and see it as thick as you may. At the time of this call, his son and his son's female friend were at his house. Apparently she wanted Pisces' attention, and from out of nowhere he says, " 'Girlfriend' isn't jealous of you, but 'son's friend' is." Of course, this was in a joking manner. I had no idea where that came from, given the fact that I had not told him that I felt that she was jealous (even though I felt that vibe). Instead, I told him that I felt that she had reservations about me. The two are not necessarily mutually exclusive. I wonder if he was trying to project the opposite truth by volunteering this information.
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Cont...
My friend told me not to call him again, that I should wait for him to call me, but I really wish to talk to him. The last time I called him was 3 days ago. I haven't really given him a chance to call me because I always call him first. So, this time, my plan is to wait it out, but this feels torturous.
I read that Pisces men will feel rejected if you don't chase them, however, someone else told me to make him come to me, by not calling him, at all. I'm more confused, now...
Basically, it feels that he's hiding his feelings from me. I KNOW he is. What, though?
Is he afraid of falling for me again?
Is he afraid of being hurt (was he referencing himself)?
Is he afraid of me becoming too attached to him?
Should I wait for him to call me, as my friend suggests?
Did my passion get me in trouble, by expressing too much?
Does he want to only have sex once because he wants to "do me a favor," or because he doesn't want either of us to become attached?
(I only told him "once" as an expression. Of course, I'd want to make love to him whenever we both feel the need for each other).
All I know is, whenever I call him, his voice lights up. The way he held me, and then my hand a couple of weeks ago was unmistakable. I truly felt his emotion for me. Could that have been an illusion, though he agreed that it was natural and right?
Of course, I have my relationship and I desperately don't want to hurt her. i realize that my desires are selfish, but in an marker way, I feel almost justified, due to her being well aware of my needs that aren't being met. This isn't a new thing. The non-sex in my relationship has been going on for several years, 5 or more to be exact. We're talking sex 6-10 times a year, with 10 being the high scale. I realize how careful with my heart I would need to be with this man, whom I feel is my other soul mate.
The more I think about it, the more angry I become. First, I'm angry at myself for opening myself up (foolishly) as I did, because all I've received from him is vague. I even told him that I felt foolish, and his response was, "uh huh." He was paying attention to me, but no assurance or anything. I'm angry because I'm starting to think that he was telling me about his neighbor and long-time friend to test me for jealousy. Either that, or he wants me to know that he's not interested in me, instead of being upfront with it. Maybe it's his way of not hurting my feelings.
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My friend told me not to call him again, that I should wait for him to call me, but I really wish to talk to him. The last time I called him was 3 days ago. I haven't really given him a chance to call me because I always call him first. So, this time, my plan is to wait it out, but this feels torturous.
I read that Pisces men will feel rejected if you don't chase them, however, someone else told me to make him come to me, by not calling him, at all. I'm more confused, now...
Basically, it feels that he's hiding his feelings from me. I KNOW he is. What, though?
Is he afraid of falling for me again?
Is he afraid of being hurt (was he referencing himself)?
Is he afraid of me becoming too attached to him?
Should I wait for him to call me, as my friend suggests?
Did my passion get me in trouble, by expressing too much?
Does he want to only have sex once because he wants to "do me a favor," or because he doesn't want either of us to become attached?
(I only told him "once" as an expression. Of course, I'd want to make love to him whenever we both feel the need for each other).
All I know is, whenever I call him, his voice lights up. The way he held me, and then my hand a couple of weeks ago was unmistakable. I truly felt his emotion for me. Could that have been an illusion, though he agreed that it was natural and right?
Of course, I have my relationship and I desperately don't want to hurt her. i realize that my desires are selfish, but in an marker way, I feel almost justified, due to her being well aware of my needs that aren't being met. This isn't a new thing. The non-sex in my relationship has been going on for several years, 5 or more to be exact. We're talking sex 6-10 times a year, with 10 being the high scale. I realize how careful with my heart I would need to be with this man, whom I feel is my other soul mate.
The more I think about it, the more angry I become. First, I'm angry at myself for opening myself up (foolishly) as I did, because all I've received from him is vague. I even told him that I felt foolish, and his response was, "uh huh." He was paying attention to me, but no assurance or anything. I'm angry because I'm starting to think that he was telling me about his neighbor and long-time friend to test me for jealousy. Either that, or he wants me to know that he's not interested in me, instead of being upfront with it. Maybe it's his way of not hurting my feelings.
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Cont...
I find myself wanting to call him to let him know that he hurt me some when he's made no truly outwardly positive statements about me, but instead, offered a "Well, I guess" attitude, all the while telling me about the other women he thinks about. I want to ask him if I've hurt or angered him in some way, and if him telling me about the other women was a way to express it. I want to tell him that if he's genuinely not interested, I would rather him use a different approach instead of making me feel inadequate by not including me in his "harem thought." I want to tell him that I made a mistake by contacting him after all of this time, and that I will retreat, but without ill feelings. I I've been rejected enough in my relationship. I can't take being rejected by being made to feel inadequate, by him- a man I very highly regard.
Anyway, thanks to anyone who cares enough to respond. I appreciate all advise. I'm so ing lost and torn right now. On one side, I want to get to the bottom of things, on the other side, I don't want to scare him away by trying to get to the bottom of things. It is taking everything NOT to call him.
Sigh....
Thanks for reading my novel,
Tiffani
I find myself wanting to call him to let him know that he hurt me some when he's made no truly outwardly positive statements about me, but instead, offered a "Well, I guess" attitude, all the while telling me about the other women he thinks about. I want to ask him if I've hurt or angered him in some way, and if him telling me about the other women was a way to express it. I want to tell him that if he's genuinely not interested, I would rather him use a different approach instead of making me feel inadequate by not including me in his "harem thought." I want to tell him that I made a mistake by contacting him after all of this time, and that I will retreat, but without ill feelings. I I've been rejected enough in my relationship. I can't take being rejected by being made to feel inadequate, by him- a man I very highly regard.
Anyway, thanks to anyone who cares enough to respond. I appreciate all advise. I'm so ing lost and torn right now. On one side, I want to get to the bottom of things, on the other side, I don't want to scare him away by trying to get to the bottom of things. It is taking everything NOT to call him.
Sigh....
Thanks for reading my novel,
Tiffani
Thanks a lot, you two...
I truly appreciate you taking the time to read and reply to my post. I have a better understanding of things but it doesn't necessarily make me feel too good about them. However, I consider myself a realist and I tend to have a very hard time with love matters.
Mostly, it's due to the way I lay everything on the line. It's like a sickness with me. When I feel you, I want you to KNOW IT! Don't get me wrong, my conversations with him are about other things most of the time, but when the subject of "us' comes up, I tend to lay the admiration on thick.
I have actually tried to become intimate with others, (both were Taurus), but I seemed to scare them away with my intensity. The doubt and wonder that I feel when this happens only intensifies the passion (good and bad). When it happens more than once with different people, I feel more pressure placed on myself, by myself, to "not screw this one up," though, it seems that's what I do, every time. Each time, the pressure I place on myself to "be cool" is greater.
Then, to make matters worse, if I say something which I feel was misunderstood, and I don't realize it until later on, I have a tendency to dwell on it and with that comes this insatiable need to "correct" my errors- sometimes days later! It drives me crazy!
One part of me wants to "right" the wrong, the other part of me thinks that I would appear as neurotic as I feel, if I did. So, I keep it inside- how I screwed up, once again...
In actuality, all I want is to know that I'm regarded affectionately, and that I'm special. It's hard for me to understand how I could not be seen as special, when all I want to do is please the other person and cater to them. My intentions are golden with him. I realize that he isn't a toy and I would rather hurt myself than to hurt him. I've kept criticism out of the equation. Thus holding my turmoil about "us" inside, opposed to "righting" wrongs in order to make me feel better.
As stupid as it is (after all these years have passed), it is hard for me to accept that he doesn't feel the same. This is what I get from some things that DePtHcHArG3 stated. He even told me that neither of us has changed, much at all. He's told me this more than once. Since I know he feels that way, the ultimate hurt is to know that even though he feels that I haven't changed, his feelings are no longer there. It hurts because I've bled from my heart to him. I just want to know that I'm special.
I truly appreciate you taking the time to read and reply to my post. I have a better understanding of things but it doesn't necessarily make me feel too good about them. However, I consider myself a realist and I tend to have a very hard time with love matters.
Mostly, it's due to the way I lay everything on the line. It's like a sickness with me. When I feel you, I want you to KNOW IT! Don't get me wrong, my conversations with him are about other things most of the time, but when the subject of "us' comes up, I tend to lay the admiration on thick.
I have actually tried to become intimate with others, (both were Taurus), but I seemed to scare them away with my intensity. The doubt and wonder that I feel when this happens only intensifies the passion (good and bad). When it happens more than once with different people, I feel more pressure placed on myself, by myself, to "not screw this one up," though, it seems that's what I do, every time. Each time, the pressure I place on myself to "be cool" is greater.
Then, to make matters worse, if I say something which I feel was misunderstood, and I don't realize it until later on, I have a tendency to dwell on it and with that comes this insatiable need to "correct" my errors- sometimes days later! It drives me crazy!
One part of me wants to "right" the wrong, the other part of me thinks that I would appear as neurotic as I feel, if I did. So, I keep it inside- how I screwed up, once again...
In actuality, all I want is to know that I'm regarded affectionately, and that I'm special. It's hard for me to understand how I could not be seen as special, when all I want to do is please the other person and cater to them. My intentions are golden with him. I realize that he isn't a toy and I would rather hurt myself than to hurt him. I've kept criticism out of the equation. Thus holding my turmoil about "us" inside, opposed to "righting" wrongs in order to make me feel better.
As stupid as it is (after all these years have passed), it is hard for me to accept that he doesn't feel the same. This is what I get from some things that DePtHcHArG3 stated. He even told me that neither of us has changed, much at all. He's told me this more than once. Since I know he feels that way, the ultimate hurt is to know that even though he feels that I haven't changed, his feelings are no longer there. It hurts because I've bled from my heart to him. I just want to know that I'm special.
I don't think I can even deal with that reality because it would be like learning that your hero is only human. Instead, I cling on to the hope that he's been elusive because he "knows" that to be with me again would be a bit dangerous. THAT, I can deal with.
This is killing me, cell by cell...
Tiffani
This is killing me, cell by cell...
Tiffani
Curious: Why are some messages hidden?
Tiffani
Tiffani
Trust me .. you don't want to know !!!
"Trust me .. you don't want to know !!!"
If I didn't want to know, I wouldn't have asked.
Obviously, I'm new here and based on your answer I can only wonder if those messages are hidden from me, only, perhaps? I can only wonder if they are full of insults towards me, but whatever. If that's the case, then knock yourself out if it makes you feel good...
Tiffani
If I didn't want to know, I wouldn't have asked.
Obviously, I'm new here and based on your answer I can only wonder if those messages are hidden from me, only, perhaps? I can only wonder if they are full of insults towards me, but whatever. If that's the case, then knock yourself out if it makes you feel good...
Tiffani
bijou..
Thank you for your response. My actual relationship is very complicated. As far as redirecting the energy, please realize that I have tried a 1001 ways to improve our relationship, by working on myself and my reactions/treatment of her. It goes up and down, with us. I am not a saint- I'm definitely not prefect. However, neither is she, along with everyone else, obviously.
There is no way I would ever tell her about him, unless he and I were planning to enter a true relationship. That all sounds good on paper, but I can express to her, oh once again, what I need without telling her about him. We've been through that before- telling her about that person I felt drawn to. It doesn't motivate her or provide any epiphanies. It only makes her feel bad and resentful. I can't blame her for feeling that way, though.
As far as setting myself up to be alone- I've been alone. We don't even sleep in the same bed anymore, yet we've been getting along alright. She's told me many times that "we're not together." Mostly, I agree.
I am not naive in thinking that any situation will be perfect. I bank on the worst outcomes, naturally and always. I am very cautiously optimistic in how I view the world and opportunities within it.
I somewhat disagree with feeling that I know what's better for him by focusing on his relationships. He brought up those relationships to me, and described his past and present suitors just as I've conveyed, here. I certainly did not probe him for "dirt," he volunteered. However, I do feel that we would make a very good couple, given the right conditions and circumstances.
Perhaps I seem a bit miffed about the others because he knowingly, or unknowingly hurt me a tad. I could care less about who he sees, has sex with or whatever. It was the fact that I felt that if he were going to comment on the positive attributes of other women, it wouldn't be a bad idea to throw a compliment my way, also. Especially considering how I've expressed my adoration for him.
Eh, being hurt is not foreign to me, though. I'll suffer for a few days, then I get back on my feet and continue on.
Thank you for your advice on moving forward with this situation. I do truly appreciate you taking the time...
Thanks,
Tiffani
Thank you for your response. My actual relationship is very complicated. As far as redirecting the energy, please realize that I have tried a 1001 ways to improve our relationship, by working on myself and my reactions/treatment of her. It goes up and down, with us. I am not a saint- I'm definitely not prefect. However, neither is she, along with everyone else, obviously.
There is no way I would ever tell her about him, unless he and I were planning to enter a true relationship. That all sounds good on paper, but I can express to her, oh once again, what I need without telling her about him. We've been through that before- telling her about that person I felt drawn to. It doesn't motivate her or provide any epiphanies. It only makes her feel bad and resentful. I can't blame her for feeling that way, though.
As far as setting myself up to be alone- I've been alone. We don't even sleep in the same bed anymore, yet we've been getting along alright. She's told me many times that "we're not together." Mostly, I agree.
I am not naive in thinking that any situation will be perfect. I bank on the worst outcomes, naturally and always. I am very cautiously optimistic in how I view the world and opportunities within it.
I somewhat disagree with feeling that I know what's better for him by focusing on his relationships. He brought up those relationships to me, and described his past and present suitors just as I've conveyed, here. I certainly did not probe him for "dirt," he volunteered. However, I do feel that we would make a very good couple, given the right conditions and circumstances.
Perhaps I seem a bit miffed about the others because he knowingly, or unknowingly hurt me a tad. I could care less about who he sees, has sex with or whatever. It was the fact that I felt that if he were going to comment on the positive attributes of other women, it wouldn't be a bad idea to throw a compliment my way, also. Especially considering how I've expressed my adoration for him.
Eh, being hurt is not foreign to me, though. I'll suffer for a few days, then I get back on my feet and continue on.
Thank you for your advice on moving forward with this situation. I do truly appreciate you taking the time...
Thanks,
Tiffani
Thank for explaining. I hid one too!
I've got like 5 .. I'm winning .. yay !!!!!
vl .. you're gorgeous 😉
Do you swing both ways? 😛😛😛😛
vl .. you're gorgeous 😉
Do you swing both ways? 😛😛😛😛
Dead silence .. I take that to mean "NO" 🙂
Hidden messages are hidden to all Tiffani.
Do you think it's possible that you are addicted to that feeling of passion and intensity, irrespective of who the donor is?
I can recognise the parallel with the concept that Pisceans can be 'in love with love', which is why I think people who are emotionally charged need to be fairly discerning.
Maybe it's his own intensity that you're attracted to? We can also be intense.
What do you think would make you happier at this point in time? You can write you own ending. What happens?
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Hmm...
I wouldn't say addicted, but longing. I am so longing for passion and intensity. I had that once in my current relationship. She was just as intense as him, as far as making me melt away. I feel so passionate these days because I desperately miss being enamored and fussed over. I miss her love.
When things were good, in return, there wasn't a thing I wouldn't do to make her happy. I even sacrificed my health for her, (long story). I have damn near worked myself into a dead stupor to provide a good home for her. If things are tight, I WILL find a way to make ends meet, no matter what, it will get done.
We were irresponsible with each other's hearts. Our relationship started as a sexual curiosity thing which blossomed into love. Both of us were adventurous and seeking excitement. The beginning of our undoing was being too honest with each other. Specifically about our past sexual encounters. It caused some mistrust.
To add fuel to the fire, we experimented with "threesomes," a few times and in retrospect it was one of the worst things we could have done.
So now, we've matured considerably, yet the consequences of us treating our hearts casually years ago, has resulted in the strange dynamic we live with today.
It definitely matters who the person is, as far as me being drawn to their passion and intensity. It usually sneaks up on me. It's like one day I'll go, "Oops, damn. Here I go again, falling, once again." I actually try to avoid feeling for others outside of my relationship because it only complicates my home life.
I don't feel that I'm using him as an outlet because of my current relationship, though. Both he and she are the ones who have moved me the most, romantically. The integrity of my feelings for him, stands alone. I do feel that if I were happy at home, I wouldn't continue to "fall" for others, occasionally.
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Do you think it's possible that you are addicted to that feeling of passion and intensity, irrespective of who the donor is?
I can recognise the parallel with the concept that Pisceans can be 'in love with love', which is why I think people who are emotionally charged need to be fairly discerning.
Maybe it's his own intensity that you're attracted to? We can also be intense.
What do you think would make you happier at this point in time? You can write you own ending. What happens?
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Hmm...
I wouldn't say addicted, but longing. I am so longing for passion and intensity. I had that once in my current relationship. She was just as intense as him, as far as making me melt away. I feel so passionate these days because I desperately miss being enamored and fussed over. I miss her love.
When things were good, in return, there wasn't a thing I wouldn't do to make her happy. I even sacrificed my health for her, (long story). I have damn near worked myself into a dead stupor to provide a good home for her. If things are tight, I WILL find a way to make ends meet, no matter what, it will get done.
We were irresponsible with each other's hearts. Our relationship started as a sexual curiosity thing which blossomed into love. Both of us were adventurous and seeking excitement. The beginning of our undoing was being too honest with each other. Specifically about our past sexual encounters. It caused some mistrust.
To add fuel to the fire, we experimented with "threesomes," a few times and in retrospect it was one of the worst things we could have done.
So now, we've matured considerably, yet the consequences of us treating our hearts casually years ago, has resulted in the strange dynamic we live with today.
It definitely matters who the person is, as far as me being drawn to their passion and intensity. It usually sneaks up on me. It's like one day I'll go, "Oops, damn. Here I go again, falling, once again." I actually try to avoid feeling for others outside of my relationship because it only complicates my home life.
I don't feel that I'm using him as an outlet because of my current relationship, though. Both he and she are the ones who have moved me the most, romantically. The integrity of my feelings for him, stands alone. I do feel that if I were happy at home, I wouldn't continue to "fall" for others, occasionally.
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How does it end?
In my ideal world, he and I get together and go "out on the town," as lovers. We do this eh, maybe once a month or so, ya know, nothing too steady.
After having some drinks and laughs, we may drive to a secluded spot for an intimate encounter or back to his place.
In my ideal situation, we talk maybe a couple times per week via telephone about whatever; entertainment, politics, science. However when he's physically with me, he "loves" me. He doesn't judge my sexual desires or habits, instead he accepts them and encourages me to be myself with him, sexually. I am free to express and act out all fantasies, and we are totally uninhibited together. When we are together sexually, we want to give each other the most pleasure as possible.
Ah, yes...
Tiffani
In my ideal world, he and I get together and go "out on the town," as lovers. We do this eh, maybe once a month or so, ya know, nothing too steady.
After having some drinks and laughs, we may drive to a secluded spot for an intimate encounter or back to his place.
In my ideal situation, we talk maybe a couple times per week via telephone about whatever; entertainment, politics, science. However when he's physically with me, he "loves" me. He doesn't judge my sexual desires or habits, instead he accepts them and encourages me to be myself with him, sexually. I am free to express and act out all fantasies, and we are totally uninhibited together. When we are together sexually, we want to give each other the most pleasure as possible.
Ah, yes...
Tiffani
"There really is no way to figure out a Pisces though."
Isn't that the truth 🙂
Sometimes, we can't even figure ourselves out.
Isn't that the truth 🙂
Sometimes, we can't even figure ourselves out.
"It was the fact that I felt that if he were going to comment on the positive attributes of other women, it wouldn't be a bad idea to throw a compliment my way, also. Especially considering how I've expressed my adoration for him."
"when he's physically with me, he "loves" me. He doesn't judge my sexual desires or habits, instead he accepts them and encourages me to be myself with him, sexually. I am free to express and act out all fantasies"
Tiffany .. he is a fantasy of what you want love to be. One side of you wants him to adore you, throw compliments at you to show you how he feels about you emotionally .. while the other side of you only expresses to him how much you want him sexually.
You give him signals of desiring purely sexual bliss and then can't understand why he's not wanting you emotionally. The reason why you are struggling with understanding him is because you aren't understanding yourself and the signals you are giving him.
He's a fantasy in which you are trying to make come to real life because you feel like you aren't getting the love you need at home. You want to make him into what you see in your head, and that's impossible .. he can only be who he is, and nothing more.
What's going through your head is what goes through every womans head, but, what you are failing to realize is that .. he's a guy. He's not going to act or behave like a girl.
If you carry emotional baggage (which you do, you are trying to make him want you emotionally because you feel neglected emotionally) and attempt to place this on a man .. he will pull away from you. This is the way it works with men.
There are mixed signals all over this post from you to both him and your girlfriend .. you want emotional security and the only way you know how to get it from a guy is by offering your kitty to him and then can't figure out why he isn't feeling you emotionally.
You don't understand that men and women work differently .. if you present yourself to a guy as being promiscious, while having no problems with cheating on a partner at home .. then what a guy is going to see you as is a slut, and this is how he is going to treat you.
"when he's physically with me, he "loves" me. He doesn't judge my sexual desires or habits, instead he accepts them and encourages me to be myself with him, sexually. I am free to express and act out all fantasies"
Tiffany .. he is a fantasy of what you want love to be. One side of you wants him to adore you, throw compliments at you to show you how he feels about you emotionally .. while the other side of you only expresses to him how much you want him sexually.
You give him signals of desiring purely sexual bliss and then can't understand why he's not wanting you emotionally. The reason why you are struggling with understanding him is because you aren't understanding yourself and the signals you are giving him.
He's a fantasy in which you are trying to make come to real life because you feel like you aren't getting the love you need at home. You want to make him into what you see in your head, and that's impossible .. he can only be who he is, and nothing more.
What's going through your head is what goes through every womans head, but, what you are failing to realize is that .. he's a guy. He's not going to act or behave like a girl.
If you carry emotional baggage (which you do, you are trying to make him want you emotionally because you feel neglected emotionally) and attempt to place this on a man .. he will pull away from you. This is the way it works with men.
There are mixed signals all over this post from you to both him and your girlfriend .. you want emotional security and the only way you know how to get it from a guy is by offering your kitty to him and then can't figure out why he isn't feeling you emotionally.
You don't understand that men and women work differently .. if you present yourself to a guy as being promiscious, while having no problems with cheating on a partner at home .. then what a guy is going to see you as is a slut, and this is how he is going to treat you.
There's nothing wrong with having a fairy tale fantasy in your head about what kind of love you want ... however, other people don't live inside your fantasy, they can only live with their own reality.
What this all boils down to .. you are unhappy emotionally at home and instead of dealing with your own feelings, you are looking for somebody to carry your feelings for you by trying to make him into something he is not.
It's just a fantasy, Tiffany .. it isn't real.
What this all boils down to .. you are unhappy emotionally at home and instead of dealing with your own feelings, you are looking for somebody to carry your feelings for you by trying to make him into something he is not.
It's just a fantasy, Tiffany .. it isn't real.
I know exactly what you mean and what you are going through .. I have a fantasy inside my head too about a man.
But, it isn't real .. it's an illusion .. the mind conjurs up these fantasies so we don't have to face the truth.
There is no such thing as a Knight in Shining Armour who is going to come and rescue you from your unhappiness.
But, it isn't real .. it's an illusion .. the mind conjurs up these fantasies so we don't have to face the truth.
There is no such thing as a Knight in Shining Armour who is going to come and rescue you from your unhappiness.
IMO, even if he does really like you. He just really needs to be single right now.
Thanks P-Angel...
I agree with most of your assessment, though, I do not feel that I've thrown myself at him cheaply or promiscuously.
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"You don't understand that men and women work differently .. if you present yourself to a guy as being promiscious, while having no problems with cheating on a partner at home .. then what a guy is going to see you as is a slut, and this is how he is going to treat you."
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I do understand that men and women think differently. Being the "easy" girl will always gain attention and also disrespect from men. On one hand, they love the "easy" girl, but on the other hand, they don't respect her. On one hand, they can screw around on their wives and girlfriends, but if the woman does the same, they may feel disrespect for her. No offense, but that is not a newsflash.
The reason why I feel so comfortable sharing my intimate thoughts with him is because he's not the typical male when it comes to sex, (Pisces or not).
In fact, both he and his current girlfriend were swingers for a few years. His girlfriend is bisexual also, and has had sex with both men and women, (in his presence and without). Some of the people both of them have slept with, they knew and some, they didn't know. I honestly do not see that he's judged her because of it. Why would I be different?
He knows that I haven't had sex with anyone other than my partner, (for the exception of being with him years ago), so I can't see how promiscuity comes into play. I can assure you that he doesn't see me as a slut.
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"Tiffany .. he is a fantasy of what you want love to be. One side of you wants him to adore you, throw compliments at you to show you how he feels about you emotionally .. while the other side of you only expresses to him how much you want him sexually."
You give him signals of desiring purely sexual bliss and then can't understand why he's not wanting you emotionally. The reason why you are struggling with understanding him is because you aren't understanding yourself and the signals you are giving him."
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The two sides, (emotional and sexual), are one in the same. I only desire to be with someone sexually if there is an emotional bond. He knows this...
I agree with most of your assessment, though, I do not feel that I've thrown myself at him cheaply or promiscuously.
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"You don't understand that men and women work differently .. if you present yourself to a guy as being promiscious, while having no problems with cheating on a partner at home .. then what a guy is going to see you as is a slut, and this is how he is going to treat you."
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I do understand that men and women think differently. Being the "easy" girl will always gain attention and also disrespect from men. On one hand, they love the "easy" girl, but on the other hand, they don't respect her. On one hand, they can screw around on their wives and girlfriends, but if the woman does the same, they may feel disrespect for her. No offense, but that is not a newsflash.
The reason why I feel so comfortable sharing my intimate thoughts with him is because he's not the typical male when it comes to sex, (Pisces or not).
In fact, both he and his current girlfriend were swingers for a few years. His girlfriend is bisexual also, and has had sex with both men and women, (in his presence and without). Some of the people both of them have slept with, they knew and some, they didn't know. I honestly do not see that he's judged her because of it. Why would I be different?
He knows that I haven't had sex with anyone other than my partner, (for the exception of being with him years ago), so I can't see how promiscuity comes into play. I can assure you that he doesn't see me as a slut.
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"Tiffany .. he is a fantasy of what you want love to be. One side of you wants him to adore you, throw compliments at you to show you how he feels about you emotionally .. while the other side of you only expresses to him how much you want him sexually."
You give him signals of desiring purely sexual bliss and then can't understand why he's not wanting you emotionally. The reason why you are struggling with understanding him is because you aren't understanding yourself and the signals you are giving him."
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The two sides, (emotional and sexual), are one in the same. I only desire to be with someone sexually if there is an emotional bond. He knows this...
"No offense, but that is not a newsflash."
"(emotional and sexual), are one in the same"
Again .. he is a GUY
"(emotional and sexual), are one in the same"
Again .. he is a GUY
It's all about sex as you present yourself .. even in your response to me, the only thing you talk about is sex.
And then erroneously believe that this means emotions to the guy.
I can't help you .. good luck !!!!
And then erroneously believe that this means emotions to the guy.
I can't help you .. good luck !!!!
I have conveyed much more to him than solely my desire for sex. He and I have shared both physical and emotional intimacy, in the past. I don't understand how you can read that me telling him that I feel he is a soulmate, (only one example), is purely sexual. Unless you believe that it is some form of manipulation- and that, I can assure you, is not the case.
Also, considering that he is not wanting a serious relationship, I feel it would be unwise to COMPLETELY lay roses at his feet. I don't want to scare him away with too much emotionally charged expression. Though, I feel that I've shared too much, at this point, as it is...
Again, thank you for your insight. You did give me some things to think about...
Tiffani
Also, considering that he is not wanting a serious relationship, I feel it would be unwise to COMPLETELY lay roses at his feet. I don't want to scare him away with too much emotionally charged expression. Though, I feel that I've shared too much, at this point, as it is...
Again, thank you for your insight. You did give me some things to think about...
Tiffani
"I only desire to be with someone sexually if there is an emotional bond. He knows this..."
Alright, one last thought and then I'm finished .. think about this ..
To you, in your defense about how you feel .. you say that to be with someone sexually there has to be an emotional bond .. yes, you are a girl .. of course.
But, what you aren't realizing in which I've tried to tell you is that he is a MAN, and just because YOU feel this way doesn't mean he does. He may understand that you feel this way .. but, he doesn't care.
Proof? He pulls away when you talk about emotions, he compliments other women without offering you any, he only wants anything to do with you when it comes to getting ass.
You can have all these one in the same feelings (sex/emotions) until the cows come home ...... but, that doesn't change that he is a ..
MAN
Alright, one last thought and then I'm finished .. think about this ..
To you, in your defense about how you feel .. you say that to be with someone sexually there has to be an emotional bond .. yes, you are a girl .. of course.
But, what you aren't realizing in which I've tried to tell you is that he is a MAN, and just because YOU feel this way doesn't mean he does. He may understand that you feel this way .. but, he doesn't care.
Proof? He pulls away when you talk about emotions, he compliments other women without offering you any, he only wants anything to do with you when it comes to getting ass.
You can have all these one in the same feelings (sex/emotions) until the cows come home ...... but, that doesn't change that he is a ..
MAN
"It's all about sex as you present yourself .. even in your response to me, the only thing you talk about is sex."
In responding to you, "all I talk about is sex," is because I am defending from your point of view, which was that I've only expressed PURELY sexual desires for him, to him. I'm simply keeping on subject...
Obviously, you and I disagree. However, I do appreciate you taking the time to respond...
Thanks,
Tiffani
In responding to you, "all I talk about is sex," is because I am defending from your point of view, which was that I've only expressed PURELY sexual desires for him, to him. I'm simply keeping on subject...
Obviously, you and I disagree. However, I do appreciate you taking the time to respond...
Thanks,
Tiffani
"Proof? He pulls away when you talk about emotions, he compliments other women without offering you any, he only wants anything to do with you when it comes to getting ass.
You can have all these one in the same feelings (sex/emotions) until the cows come home ...... but, that doesn't change that he is a ..
MAN"
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I certainly understand your point, I do realize that it could certainly be the reality, and I will think about it. However, I realize that not everything is cold or hot, black or white. There COULD be something else going on.
On a lighter note, I went to band practice yesterday and it seemed to have cleansed me of this current emotional load. Music does that for me. All of the pent up emotions were released, and today, I feel great!
Yesterday recharged me and my energies have been redirected. If things are meant to happen between him and myself, they will. If not, it won't be and I am ok with that, now. I will place my energies into constructive causes which empowers me, instead of detracting from...
Thank you P-Angel...🙂
Tiffani
You can have all these one in the same feelings (sex/emotions) until the cows come home ...... but, that doesn't change that he is a ..
MAN"
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I certainly understand your point, I do realize that it could certainly be the reality, and I will think about it. However, I realize that not everything is cold or hot, black or white. There COULD be something else going on.
On a lighter note, I went to band practice yesterday and it seemed to have cleansed me of this current emotional load. Music does that for me. All of the pent up emotions were released, and today, I feel great!
Yesterday recharged me and my energies have been redirected. If things are meant to happen between him and myself, they will. If not, it won't be and I am ok with that, now. I will place my energies into constructive causes which empowers me, instead of detracting from...
Thank you P-Angel...🙂
Tiffani
"while I'm sex and affection starved, I start dreaming about him"
"He also told me to that he isn't interested in a relationship with anyone"
"I told him that though I felt that he is a soul mate, I didn't want to be in a relationship with him"
"me telling him that I wanted to make love to him"
"it was all vague, but the message I got was that he wanted me to be aware that he wants his freedom to see whom he chooses"
"I asked him if he felt that we should have sex again"
"He seemed to want to "commit" to having sex"
"it feels that he's hiding his feelings from me. I KNOW he is"
"I truly felt his emotion for me. Could that have been an illusion"
"I find myself wanting to call him to let him know that he hurt me some when he's made no truly outwardly positive statements about me"
"but instead, offered a "Well, I guess" attitude, all the while telling me about the other women he thinks about."
Tiffany, I truly hope that awareness comes to you .... you have allowed yourself to be delusional because you are starving for affection emotionally, you have allowed yourself into believing that he has emotions for you .... when his signals clearly indicate that he only wants sex from you minus feelings.
"He also told me to that he isn't interested in a relationship with anyone"
"I told him that though I felt that he is a soul mate, I didn't want to be in a relationship with him"
"me telling him that I wanted to make love to him"
"it was all vague, but the message I got was that he wanted me to be aware that he wants his freedom to see whom he chooses"
"I asked him if he felt that we should have sex again"
"He seemed to want to "commit" to having sex"
"it feels that he's hiding his feelings from me. I KNOW he is"
"I truly felt his emotion for me. Could that have been an illusion"
"I find myself wanting to call him to let him know that he hurt me some when he's made no truly outwardly positive statements about me"
"but instead, offered a "Well, I guess" attitude, all the while telling me about the other women he thinks about."
Tiffany, I truly hope that awareness comes to you .... you have allowed yourself to be delusional because you are starving for affection emotionally, you have allowed yourself into believing that he has emotions for you .... when his signals clearly indicate that he only wants sex from you minus feelings.
Let me try to explain something to you. I realized that I said I was finished dealing with this ... but, you really need to know this.
Pisces people, when we are connected to a person ..we move in full-force. IF he had feelings for you ... you would KNOW it because he would tell you. Pisces people are ALL ABOUT communicating emotionally when we are "feeling" another person.
He isn't doing this ... because he isn't feeling you.
However, you are throwing yourself at him anyway .. completely unaware that he's playing you. And Pisces WILL do that. Of course, he's "acting" into you .. he wants you to keep offering your kitty to him ... PISCES WILL PLAY PEOPLE LIKE A GAME OF RUMMY .. if they continue to throw themselves at us, eventhough we give no signals of emotional interest.
You're being played, Tiffany .. and Pisces are masters at it.
This is how we work ... if we feel you, you'll know it. If we don't feel you, you'll know it. If we don't feel you and you lay your ass in our lap anyway .... we'll play the fuck out of you.
Do yourself a favor and walk away ....... sorry for being so harsh, but, sometimes the truth is ugly.
I'm tellling sure as I'm sitting here .. if a Pisces "feels" you, has an emotional connection with you ... WE WILL SHOW YOU, TELL YOU, SHARE IT WITH YOU ..
Pisces people, when we are connected to a person ..we move in full-force. IF he had feelings for you ... you would KNOW it because he would tell you. Pisces people are ALL ABOUT communicating emotionally when we are "feeling" another person.
He isn't doing this ... because he isn't feeling you.
However, you are throwing yourself at him anyway .. completely unaware that he's playing you. And Pisces WILL do that. Of course, he's "acting" into you .. he wants you to keep offering your kitty to him ... PISCES WILL PLAY PEOPLE LIKE A GAME OF RUMMY .. if they continue to throw themselves at us, eventhough we give no signals of emotional interest.
You're being played, Tiffany .. and Pisces are masters at it.
This is how we work ... if we feel you, you'll know it. If we don't feel you, you'll know it. If we don't feel you and you lay your ass in our lap anyway .... we'll play the fuck out of you.
Do yourself a favor and walk away ....... sorry for being so harsh, but, sometimes the truth is ugly.
I'm tellling sure as I'm sitting here .. if a Pisces "feels" you, has an emotional connection with you ... WE WILL SHOW YOU, TELL YOU, SHARE IT WITH YOU ..
If a Pisces is NOT profoundly spilling their heart out to you with murmers of love and endearment .. then they are NOT feeling you.
Hello to all people out there who keep asking these questions ...
IF A PISCES PERSON LOVES YOU .. YOU WILL KNOW IT BECAUSE WE WILL WRAP OUR WORLD AROUND YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello to all people out there who keep asking these questions ...
IF A PISCES PERSON LOVES YOU .. YOU WILL KNOW IT BECAUSE WE WILL WRAP OUR WORLD AROUND YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!
Complete and Absolute ...
Devotion
Endearment
Faithfulness
Dedication
Mind
Body
Soul
Every thought
Every intention
Every motivation
Trust
Our whole fucking world revolves around the person we love .. if this ain't happening with your Pisces .... then walk away.
Devotion
Endearment
Faithfulness
Dedication
Mind
Body
Soul
Every thought
Every intention
Every motivation
Trust
Our whole fucking world revolves around the person we love .. if this ain't happening with your Pisces .... then walk away.
"Do yourself a favor and walk away ....... sorry for being so harsh, but, sometimes the truth is ugly."
P-A, you definitely got some Scorp in you on this topic.
P-A, you definitely got some Scorp in you on this topic.
SR .. here's a secret, and I know that Scorps love secrets.
I may say that I raised my son, and I may be so delusional in thinking this is true .. fact is .. he's Scorpio, so in reality .... he raised me. 😉
I may say that I raised my son, and I may be so delusional in thinking this is true .. fact is .. he's Scorpio, so in reality .... he raised me. 😉
hehehe...
everything you say here on this topic, i can't disagree with.
since i had to nothing to meaningfully add in that regard, i just ended up complimenting you.
🙂
everything you say here on this topic, i can't disagree with.
since i had to nothing to meaningfully add in that regard, i just ended up complimenting you.
🙂
"I truly hope that awareness comes to you .... you have allowed yourself to be delusional because you are starving for affection emotionally, you have allowed yourself into believing that he has emotions for you .... when his signals clearly indicate that he only wants sex from you minus feelings."
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Thanks again P-Angel. I DO accept that, I DO see your words and FEEL the truth in them, and I WILL move on...
Don't apologize for coming across as "harsh," it's truly what I understand the best. I appreciate you taking the time to reason with a stranger in need of reality. Though I pride myself on being a realist, sometimes, my emotions cloud logic. It's necessary to have an objective point of view for clarity during these times...
I will definitely cut my losses, move on and work on the things I CAN control...
Again, I thank you for your time. It's been "real," lol. 🙂
BTW, today is my birthday! I'm 30 y/o today and I feel like starting a new chapter of life- taking better care of myself and those in my life who are truly in my corner.
My partner has been most attentive to me, also. Given her faults, she truly is in my corner and does love me unconditionally. Whenever she's told me that "we aren't together," it's always been during an argument. Her actions do show otherwise, and not just because it's my birthday.
As I stated earlier in this thread, we are getting along and there IS true love between us. Sometimes, I'd prefer to take the lazy way out and find the "fix" elsewhere, instead of truly getting to the core of our issues. I think I'll focus on what I have instead of what I'd like to invent.
Tiffani
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Thanks again P-Angel. I DO accept that, I DO see your words and FEEL the truth in them, and I WILL move on...
Don't apologize for coming across as "harsh," it's truly what I understand the best. I appreciate you taking the time to reason with a stranger in need of reality. Though I pride myself on being a realist, sometimes, my emotions cloud logic. It's necessary to have an objective point of view for clarity during these times...
I will definitely cut my losses, move on and work on the things I CAN control...
Again, I thank you for your time. It's been "real," lol. 🙂
BTW, today is my birthday! I'm 30 y/o today and I feel like starting a new chapter of life- taking better care of myself and those in my life who are truly in my corner.
My partner has been most attentive to me, also. Given her faults, she truly is in my corner and does love me unconditionally. Whenever she's told me that "we aren't together," it's always been during an argument. Her actions do show otherwise, and not just because it's my birthday.
As I stated earlier in this thread, we are getting along and there IS true love between us. Sometimes, I'd prefer to take the lazy way out and find the "fix" elsewhere, instead of truly getting to the core of our issues. I think I'll focus on what I have instead of what I'd like to invent.
Tiffani
There are many positive attributes of our relationship in addition to us not being intimate often, nor sleeping in the same bed. Usually, the only reason we sleep separately is because she falls asleep on the couch and is soooooooo hard to wake up, that I leave her there...lol
Anyway...🙂
Tiffani
Anyway...🙂
Tiffani
You're welcome, Tiffany 🙂 And thank you for realizing I wasn't trying to hurt your feelings, rather, be frank.
Happy Birthday !!!!!!!
Happy Birthday !!!!!!!
Thanks! It's not problem with me, as I prefer "straight shooting."
I've got a lot of zipping to do today, so I'll be off now...
Merry Christmas to you and to everyone else who reads this thread, (if you celebrate it)! 🙂
Tiffani
I've got a lot of zipping to do today, so I'll be off now...
Merry Christmas to you and to everyone else who reads this thread, (if you celebrate it)! 🙂
Tiffani
I truly know what you're going through, Tiffany .. there's a man in my head, too, who is everything I want him to be .. while, at home, there's actually a living person to whom is called, "Husband".
So, don't feel alone in your plight .. it's not easy being a woman with all these intense emotions.
Have yourself a Merry Christmas, a Happy Birthday, and never let go of the dream that there is "somebody" out there who can hear your heart.
Cheers !!!!!
::takes big gulp of wine::
So, don't feel alone in your plight .. it's not easy being a woman with all these intense emotions.
Have yourself a Merry Christmas, a Happy Birthday, and never let go of the dream that there is "somebody" out there who can hear your heart.
Cheers !!!!!
::takes big gulp of wine::
Just to add something that isn't necessarily specific to this situation, however, it is specific to ALL relationships ...
The problem, from my perspective, lies within the word "unconditional" .. we all have Codes of Ethics, Standards, Values, Terms of Relating .. yet, look to find a relationship in which the other person is supposed to love unconditionally, completely disregarding the fact that the other person also has their own standards in which to live.
Using this particular situation as an example: For the Gem woman to love Tiffany unconditionally, holds no real value IF within Tif's heart she feels that the terms in which she needs to be loved isn't being fulfilled.
People settle, against what their heart tells them IF they believe that the other loves them without conditions. How sad is that?
If there are no conditions, then your partner is allowed to love another, sleep with another .. without any consequences.
Anyway ... I just wanted to add that tidbit.
Cheers Again !!!!!
The problem, from my perspective, lies within the word "unconditional" .. we all have Codes of Ethics, Standards, Values, Terms of Relating .. yet, look to find a relationship in which the other person is supposed to love unconditionally, completely disregarding the fact that the other person also has their own standards in which to live.
Using this particular situation as an example: For the Gem woman to love Tiffany unconditionally, holds no real value IF within Tif's heart she feels that the terms in which she needs to be loved isn't being fulfilled.
People settle, against what their heart tells them IF they believe that the other loves them without conditions. How sad is that?
If there are no conditions, then your partner is allowed to love another, sleep with another .. without any consequences.
Anyway ... I just wanted to add that tidbit.
Cheers Again !!!!!
lol sorry for the laugh. Is because its my love one birthday too, and she is my beautiful cap woman that I love so much 🙂
In my opinion he may be detached of you, besides all his nice approaches, talking, knowledge, etc. Pisces read people and if they make people interested in what they do or talk they will be you best partner for talking or activities. Always if they feel loved they will be kings of sex lol
I do love my cap woman, and regarding one of Tiffani?s sentences about he encouraging her to meet people, can be confused about what I feel about it, for me my love if she feels I dont give her all she wants I want her to be fully happy, she can see other ppl if she wants (not that she wants to) and I will not be sad, since she comes back to me and loves me.
I do believe my love one is my soul mate, and that we can accomplish great things together, and she is a goodess for caring for me besides all my BIG problems, typical of a pisces guy.
Enough of me, Im a Pima Donna lololol
He will always be your friend.
Merry Christmas
In my opinion he may be detached of you, besides all his nice approaches, talking, knowledge, etc. Pisces read people and if they make people interested in what they do or talk they will be you best partner for talking or activities. Always if they feel loved they will be kings of sex lol
I do love my cap woman, and regarding one of Tiffani?s sentences about he encouraging her to meet people, can be confused about what I feel about it, for me my love if she feels I dont give her all she wants I want her to be fully happy, she can see other ppl if she wants (not that she wants to) and I will not be sad, since she comes back to me and loves me.
I do believe my love one is my soul mate, and that we can accomplish great things together, and she is a goodess for caring for me besides all my BIG problems, typical of a pisces guy.
Enough of me, Im a Pima Donna lololol
He will always be your friend.
Merry Christmas
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