Sigh sigh sigh....

I don't know how to explain to people, notaBully .... though, I've tried my whole life with everybody.

I have a very dear Taurus friend of mine, to whom I love very much, and have done so for over 40 years ... but, can and do, ignore/disconnect myself from contact with her for no reasons. It doesn't mean I don't care about her .. it means, I am self-sufficient in providing to myself all the nurturing I need to survive, and don't really NEED any input from another person, don't NEED to have to contact with her, or anybody else, even the ones I love, to feel loved.

Yet, I will tell her .. "Yeah, I'll call you tomorrow", and then not call and will avoid phone calls from her. I do this with a lot of people, most people, maybe all people.

There just isn't a need to have people in life ... everything that is needed to feel alive and worthy, lies within the power of the self.


It's difficult, and I understand how this must be for people to try and relate to us .. for, it appears as though we don't care. And you know, we don't care, at the same time that we do care ... as crazy as that sounds .. it's reality.

We care that we have caused you to feel uncared for ..
But, we really don't care that this feeling is present inside of you

How to explain that, I'm uncertain ... it's like, from our perspective, because we are totally self-reliant in the self-love department and self-esteem department, and self-appreciation department .. we go about life expecting others to be just as confident and self-nurturing, and we recognize that it's every person's personal responsibility as to how they feel about something, and it's every person's responsibility to have control over how they feel and their emotions, and that's it's not our responsibility to take care of another person's feelings, and so we really don't care if another person is feeling bad, because it's their own job to love themself, and view themself for who they are, and to pick up their own pieces and put obstacles of life into the proper perspective .... and if a person cannot do this for themself, we really don't care because it's not our responsibility to live for you, it's your own responsibility to live for yourself, and decide for yourself how you are suppose to feel ....... we don't care if you feel bad.

However, we care if we have caused this in you, eventhough we know it's not really our fault, so we'll humor you, lie to you .. to passify you, and then go about our day.

In short .... we're selfish muther-fukers .. who only have compassion for ourselves.


Put that in your mind .. tell yourself that all the time ... Pisces are selfish, and only care about themselves .. because it's the truth.

We only care about how we feel ..... tell yourself that everyday and maybe you will find the strength to leave him behind.


Hope that helped to discourage you 🙂

"it's like, from our perspective, because we are totally self-reliant in the self-love department and self-esteem department, and self-appreciation department .. we go about life expecting others to be just as confident and self-nurturing"


More like self delusional.

"it's like, from our perspective, because we are totally self-reliant in the self-love department and self-esteem department, and self-appreciation department .. we go about life expecting others to be just as confident and self-nurturing"


VS.

"I'm curious about this and I've thought about it many times. I've met numerous fishes and I seem to be the only one who is so - Arien! I mean, I'm very direct, harsh, confrontational - and yet, unlike the Ram, I do think about consequences, even if it's after-the-fact. So, what is my malfunction? Why am I so unlike other fish? Everyone else seems to be so nice and sweet. Why do I have these qualities? Does it have to do with other influences in my chart? If anyone knows, please tell me and don't worry about being frank because I expect people to tell me like it is, no matter how ugly! Thank you"



"I'll stand up and face anything without shedding a single drop and so, what's wrong with me?

"I guess you got me, I do beat myself up a lot! Looking for the door-mat? Here I am, lol. I know there are some qualities that are true, it just makes me crazy because I can be 'not nice' at times and all other fish are so sweet."

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All quotes by the same person. Ladies and Gentleman the first quote is an example of Delusions of Grandeur.

@ the OP. What you are experiencing is not only native behavior to the PISCES man. It's native to all men who feel they have a woman wrapped around his finger. Hell, it's native to me when I feel I have someone wrapped around my finger. It's just law. I recommend you read the Art of Seduction by Robert Greene. Certain things are just human behavior. Anything you chase in life will always elude you. Remember that.

"Pisceans are nurturing, but at times it feels like the nurturing that you give a damaged plant - to be ruthless in stripping off the unhealthy parts and casting them aside to give the plant a chance to grow strong and true."


True but untrue. My mother is the backbone and is nurturing to a fault to everyone she comes into contact with. EVERYONE. Growing up all of my friends wanted her to be their mom and even called her mom because she was much more nurturing, warm, and understanding than their moms. As much as she would probably like to be, she's just not the tough love type. She is however the tough love type with those she doesn't really truely love personally.

Of course she is an outlier when it comes to other pisces I've come into contact with. Or maybe they just don't have the same level of love for me my mom has (of course not). Both friends and loved ones (pisces) showed me this tough love when I was going thru a hard time.

But when it was them that fell on hard times, they expected me to bend over backwards and show them that warm nurturing love. So interesting. They can dish it but cannot take the tough love not even from themselves. If they could take it from themselves they wouldn't end up in half the predicaments that they end up in. But yet, when someone else goes thru it, they are TOUGH and can be JUDGEMENTAL even. I don't know if it's a lack of the ability to empathize or what.

Interesting to say the least.

Bijou,

The thing that is interesting about these boards is that people try to decipher another's whole experience with a certain sign based on what they type.

We are each in each forum talking about the behavior of certain signs. I am doing the same with pisces. So what if it's not what you construe as "positive". I really don't see it as positive or negative. I just see things as what they are.

Why would I be so "bothered" by the pisces inconsistency. Inconsistency is in everyone. I am a cancer for pete's sake. The queen of inconsitency. What I don't like about certain pisces is that they will profess to be so great when there is blaring evidence that they are not what they say they are. That's not inconsistency, that's delusions of grandeur. For a person to say that they are ALWAYS confident and then does something that shows that they are not. I look at that person like they're a hypocrite. It's better to keep your mouth closed about something. Because when you say you're this or that people are going to expect to see that behavior. IMO that is not inconsistency, that is lying to yourself...and others.

Bijou...

And I'm not cookiemonstering all over the pisces board. Why do you interpret it as that? I'm speaking on my experience with certain pisces.

Please don't attempt to teach me about human behavior. I know how to stay away from people that irritate me. I really don't appreciate you filling in the gaps where you want. Fact is you don't know anything about me or my experiences with my friends other than what I allow you to know. And I haven't given you 100% . I comment on topics as it pertains to things that I am going thru or went thru.

I don't see pisces as bad people. Where exactly are you getting this from? You have a wild imagination. As I said before, stop trying to decipher a person's whole attitude based on what they type on dxp. Especially when a person comes on here as little as I do. I could see if I came on here EVERYDAY like some people we know.

I have never ever ever came on DXP and made definitive statements about any sign. So for you to say that I think pisces is bad, or that pisces people upset me or irritate me or what have you are inferences on YOUR part. I merely come in here and offer a different side to ponder, because it seems that many of the pisces on here will never admit to any faults or wrong doing. And what you see as negative or cookiemonstering is actually helping some people. I have gotten COUNTLESS messages in my inbox about how I've helped people to understand things based on what I type. I think you even said something to that effect in a topic once before.

naBully,

For real, I just want to shake you! I know what you're going thru tho. But girl, there are PLENTY of men out there that are worthy of you. Irrespective of sign, a man will DOG a woman that he has that much control over. Stop chasing him! If he wants you he'll come after you. If not fuc em!

1A. YOU SAI😱 " Your perception is valid. I mean it is YOUR perception. I'm not saying that you are wrong. My point is why does it bother you so much? Why do you allow it to bother you? Do you think that you will be able to change someone? Stop them from being this way to please you or to acknowledge that you are right and they are wrong?"


1B. Where are you getting that it bothers me "so much"? Because I type what you say is bullshit on a messageboard? I don't get where you're getting your information from. As I stated before you only know what I allow you to know. And the little information that you do have about my life and experiences is not enough for you to infer anything about my relationships or my reactions to those relationships.
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2A. The same questions for naBULLY as well. Believe me, I wrestle with this myself, which is why I'm discussing it here. Placing conditions - liking someone only because they like you back, disliking people because they aren't living up to your perception of being straightforward - none of that does any good for YOU. But does it really hurt you? Or does it hurt your ego? Are you more attached to feeling victimized or righteous?

2B. I have no idea what you are talking about here.. This is kinda a part of being a human being I think. In fact I just read your post to my pisces friend and he said, "doesn't everybody do that to a certain extent?"
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3A.I guess I've been realizing that changing other people - well, you can point things out, but change happens within. You can't change someone. You can, however, change yourself. Change your perceptions. Widen your perception. If you are feeling hurt or angry or disgusted by someone eles' behavior, you can continue to feel that way - or you can change things up in yourself, or change the circumstances.

3B. These are the exact principles I try to live by. I do fall short sometimes tho.

Bijou,

I get what you're saying. I always try to exemplify this in my life. What I fail to understand is what this has to do with anything I type online.

It seems like you equate conversing about issues on a messageboard to something bothering a person's whole existence. I can't speak for anyone else, but when it comes to what I type on dxp, its actually a microcosm of the events in my life and relationships. That's what a discussion board is about. Sure I could say, "well I'm not bothered and crying about it so I won't bring it up" but where is the rapport? Even still, I won't even pretend to be above it all, nor do I wish to be.

Maybe you see my posts as being negative and one sided. There's a reason for that. I have dealt with many pisces and on this board pisces tend to only present a certain side of themselves. I am here to offer another view of things based on my perception.

I just happen to be "soaring" through the boards at the moment and thought this little diddy may be of some help to someone out there.

A healthy friend dies participating in a sport she loves. A man is late leaving his house to work only to find he missed fatal car wreck by seconds.
A knock at the door, and a starving family opens it to find bags of groceries piled anonymously on the porch. A large order comes in just as a company is getting ready to close its doors, and the owner's dream is given new life.

Sometimes life twists. Sometimes it goes the other way, too. Things happen. Sometimes we label these events good, sometimes bad. We cannot always see the reason or purpose in them, but most of us choose to believe there's a Divine plan.

I don't know why I've received some of the blessings I've been given; I don't know why some of the sorrow has come my way. All I can do is trust that whatever comes my way, there's a lesson at hand.

Are you focusing on the circumstances of your life instead of the lessons? The circumstances are the tools. Be involved in them. Feel the pain of loss and the elation of victory. Let compassion work its way into your soul. Learn caring and kindness for others and yourself, too.

Instead of asking why, learn to ask what the lesson is. The moment you become ready to accept it, the lesson will become clear.

Freebird, I agree with you implicitly. Although, sometimes, it's difficult to keep "the faith."

Bijou,

You addressed me so I assumed you were talking to me. But...yeah.