Soulmates
This topic was created in the Pisces forum by P-Angel on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 and has 36 replies.
I've posted this topic before, somewhere, and I was just thinking about it, so decided to post it again.
Have you ever met someone and you just KNEW immediately how you felt about them, although you really know nothing about the person? Sometimes, you like them the moment they walked in front of you .. or, sometimes, you're repelled immediately, even though you just met them?
Isn't this our souls knowing each other? How else would we have this immediately awareness of a stranger?
Wouldn't it stand to reason that if TWO souls were meant to be together .. that our life-journey to Love to the fullest of another soul who see's into our own and completes us .. then this force would be so powerful, that it would draw these two together, overcoming any obstacles that stood in their path?
When I think about two souls that are bound to each other in this physical life experience .. I think that this force should be stronger than intuition, stronger than our personal determination to succeed in the material world, stronger than our faith .. for these are just ONE souls existence.
If there are TWO .. wouldn't that be so strong that nothing would have the ability to stand in their way of finding each other?
Then why doesn't it happen? Is it not real? Is there no such thing as a "Soulmate"?
Have you ever met someone and you just KNEW immediately how you felt about them, although you really know nothing about the person? Sometimes, you like them the moment they walked in front of you .. or, sometimes, you're repelled immediately, even though you just met them?
Isn't this our souls knowing each other? How else would we have this immediately awareness of a stranger?
Wouldn't it stand to reason that if TWO souls were meant to be together .. that our life-journey to Love to the fullest of another soul who see's into our own and completes us .. then this force would be so powerful, that it would draw these two together, overcoming any obstacles that stood in their path?
When I think about two souls that are bound to each other in this physical life experience .. I think that this force should be stronger than intuition, stronger than our personal determination to succeed in the material world, stronger than our faith .. for these are just ONE souls existence.
If there are TWO .. wouldn't that be so strong that nothing would have the ability to stand in their way of finding each other?
Then why doesn't it happen? Is it not real? Is there no such thing as a "Soulmate"?
Maybe it is trying, but, we aren't listening. You get this thought to go somewhere, or do a particular thing that just pops in your head out of nowhere .. then, once you think about it, you're like .. Naw, why would I want to go there .. so you don't.
Or maybe that's why we are born with a gift.
Say a person is an excellent artist and they do their "Art" form for pleasure and as a hobby to make them feel happy .. but, go into some other vocation .. and spend most of their time in their career, making money, advancing, without ever pushing forward with their artist abilities.
Maybe the reason WHY they were born with this gift is because that's where they will find their soulmate ..
Say a person is an excellent artist and they do their "Art" form for pleasure and as a hobby to make them feel happy .. but, go into some other vocation .. and spend most of their time in their career, making money, advancing, without ever pushing forward with their artist abilities.
Maybe the reason WHY they were born with this gift is because that's where they will find their soulmate ..
not to say that we may have more than one soulmate, but i think that our souls recognize a lot of people. before we are born, i feel like we are all spirits, kinda floating around in an unmaterialistic plain and we know other spirits. naturally when materialize, we are bound to recognize a few of them.
Even in dreams, I believe when you have a dream and you can't see the face, or the face looks different .. yet, you just KNOW who that person is .. it's because we recognize the soul and that's why the face is absent.
But, if there are two particular souls who are bound to each other .. shouldn't this be so powerful that absolutely nothing could stand in it's way of finding each other?
Maybe it's because I'm Pisces, I don't know .. but, my biggest fear in life is to live and die without embracing my ultimate soulmate where we belong to each other, with each other, for each other ..
But, if there are two particular souls who are bound to each other .. shouldn't this be so powerful that absolutely nothing could stand in it's way of finding each other?
Maybe it's because I'm Pisces, I don't know .. but, my biggest fear in life is to live and die without embracing my ultimate soulmate where we belong to each other, with each other, for each other ..
we live in a modern world where we expect everything to be handed to us without much hardship. i suppose in the old days, such as with ancient egyptians, mayans, etc. it was easier to peer into oneself and just "know." now, we are an age of technology and if it isnt digital and directly pointing it out to us, we won't recognize it at all.
so would the feeling be overwhelmingly strong when we see our soulmate, perhaps but not necessarily. it would probably be easy to ignore because most people are not used to having to pay attention to their intuition.
you may see a guy on the subway, and he's looking at you, and you're looking at him. and he's so familiar, yet in the back of your mind you already know that you've never seen him before. but you shrug it off and get off the train and he stays on. then you never see him again. now, was that your soul mate that you just saw? did your soul recognize him and you didnt heed the call? possibly. but if he's your soul mate, you will see him again.
so would the feeling be overwhelmingly strong when we see our soulmate, perhaps but not necessarily. it would probably be easy to ignore because most people are not used to having to pay attention to their intuition.
you may see a guy on the subway, and he's looking at you, and you're looking at him. and he's so familiar, yet in the back of your mind you already know that you've never seen him before. but you shrug it off and get off the train and he stays on. then you never see him again. now, was that your soul mate that you just saw? did your soul recognize him and you didnt heed the call? possibly. but if he's your soul mate, you will see him again.
"but, my biggest fear in life is to live and die without embracing my ultimate soulmate where we belong to each other, with each other, for each other .."
- That's a beautiful statement P-Angel...I think we all long for a similar feeling - my biggest fear though is to die unloved and unknown to at least some people still living after my time has come at last...
- That's a beautiful statement P-Angel...I think we all long for a similar feeling - my biggest fear though is to die unloved and unknown to at least some people still living after my time has come at last...
"but, my biggest fear in life is to live and die without embracing my ultimate soulmate where we belong to each other, with each other, for each other .."
- That's a beautiful statement P-Angel...I think we all long for a similar feeling - my biggest fear though is to die unloved and unknown to at least some people still living after my time has come at last...
- That's a beautiful statement P-Angel...I think we all long for a similar feeling - my biggest fear though is to die unloved and unknown to at least some people still living after my time has come at last...
when i was with my scorpio, my soul recognized him. it was an electric chemistry and we could damn near finish each other's sentences. it was uncanny how i would pick up the phone to call him and before i could dial, he was already on the line, calling me and i just so happened to pick up before the phone rang. yes, my soul recognized him the first day that i met him. i knew when i met him that he was going to be my man. Knew it. and he claims to have known the same, but were we meant to be together, NO. He's not my soul mate, but my soul recognized him. see the difference?
maybe when we come across our one true soul mate, it will be so overwhelming that it might bring you to tears, and then you'll know. maybe. then again, maybe there is no soul mate. maybe there are only souls that we recognize.
my virgo Ex dreamed of me even before we met, so he claims. he saw me in my prom dress but couldnt see my face. and the night of my prom, his eyes were really big an he was like "it IS you" and thats when he told me about the dream. his soul recognized me, but was he my soul mate? NO. we are still great friends and im glad we found each other, but we're definitely not soul mates.
maybe when we come across our one true soul mate, it will be so overwhelming that it might bring you to tears, and then you'll know. maybe. then again, maybe there is no soul mate. maybe there are only souls that we recognize.
my virgo Ex dreamed of me even before we met, so he claims. he saw me in my prom dress but couldnt see my face. and the night of my prom, his eyes were really big an he was like "it IS you" and thats when he told me about the dream. his soul recognized me, but was he my soul mate? NO. we are still great friends and im glad we found each other, but we're definitely not soul mates.
lol i hadnt seen it. but just now i went to look at it and i cant open it up on my work compute because it doesnt have java something or another... what is it? is it Jem! LOL
i'll have to open it when i get home... oh i hope it's Jem
thank you, you're the best. its sooooooooooo nice to be amongst the fishies.
"my biggest fear though is to die unloved"
Me too .. I have love, from my family and close friends .. but, that's not the same.
I mean, they HAVE to overlook your flaws, don't they?
Me too .. I have love, from my family and close friends .. but, that's not the same.
I mean, they HAVE to overlook your flaws, don't they?
awww man Lisa Lisa... that takes me back...
"when we come across our one true soul mate, it will be so overwhelming that it might bring you to tears, and then you'll know"
That's what I was meaning and started this thread .. it would be so powerful that nothing could stand in it's way.
So, then .. why doesn't this happen? I've met people who say they've met their soulmate and yet, they aren't together .. how can this be?
Frightens the crap out of me to think that all this living and there's no true soulmate.
That's what I was meaning and started this thread .. it would be so powerful that nothing could stand in it's way.
So, then .. why doesn't this happen? I've met people who say they've met their soulmate and yet, they aren't together .. how can this be?
Frightens the crap out of me to think that all this living and there's no true soulmate.
yeah P, I am scared to die unloved too. it would seem like all my living had been for nothing. if no one loved me, what the hell had i been doing all those years, living. i could acquire money and a nice house and have a great career... but for what? just to die alone? just to feel myself having a heart attack in my rocking chair and look around for help and there is no one but my sad little hound dog looking at me as i slide out of the chair and onto the floor, dead as a doornail? i mean, that just can't be life. it can't end that way.
call me a romantic... or a wimp, but i love that love exists. and the only reason i continue to date is because in the end, i hope to find someone that is going to look at me and say, i finally found you. and i will look at him and feel the same way. and we will grow old together. we may be old, ugly, stinky, wrinkled, and have to live in an old folks home where all you get is unsalted mashed potatoes for dinner, but damn it we'll be together... is that the soulmate type thing? if it is, i want one.
as i said before, i dont think people pay attention to the soulmate calling. money consumes them. ambition and power is on their agenda. they arent concerned with love. those power attorneys who are going into the corporate world fighting big cases and winning millions of dollars arent concerned with Joe Shmoe being their soulmate. The benjamins are their soul mate. not to say that you cant be ambitious, careerwise and not have a soulmate, im just saying, people are too preoccupied with politics and money and power to recognize what their soul is telling them to do
as i said before, i dont think people pay attention to the soulmate calling. money consumes them. ambition and power is on their agenda. they arent concerned with love. those power attorneys who are going into the corporate world fighting big cases and winning millions of dollars arent concerned with Joe Shmoe being their soulmate. The benjamins are their soul mate. not to say that you cant be ambitious, careerwise and not have a soulmate, im just saying, people are too preoccupied with politics and money and power to recognize what their soul is telling them to do
oh shut up bran. you'll probably die with someone beating you with hot noodles.
"you'll probably die with someone beating you with hot noodles."
Hahahah, LilMermaid. That's a great phrase.
I believe in soulmates, too, and hope to grow old and stinky eating mashed potatoes with mine, someday. You have a great way with words!
Hahahah, LilMermaid. That's a great phrase.
I believe in soulmates, too, and hope to grow old and stinky eating mashed potatoes with mine, someday. You have a great way with words!
i dont know if i wanna be married... i know this sounds so contradictory... but im scared of marriage too. i want the children yes i do and i want the man, but i dont know if i want to marry the man. i think things work best when there arent any labels on things. i mean for me to say "thats my husband" puts a ton of pressure on us. it flows naturally without the pressure i think. I think i'd rather have a life partner than a husband. but i know i want to be a mother.
thanks Miss!
there is an I in marriage. it's right after the last r and before the a. lol... i get you though. that's another reason why i dont think i could do marriage. the number one factor in divorce is marriage. can't get divorced if you're not married now can ya?
yeah i worry about post partum too. i hear it's really rough. but i think i'll enroll myself in therapy as soon as i have that kid.
yeah i worry about post partum too. i hear it's really rough. but i think i'll enroll myself in therapy as soon as i have that kid.
then bran you can be one of those people that don't heed the call. that's your choice. and you are entitled to it.
pp, is your moon in Virgo?
With this whole train of thought .. I guess I just look at it differently.
To say .. the end result could end in divorce and that's bad .. is looking at a life-experience for potential danger, rather than for any gain.
To say .. the end result could end in divorce and that's bad .. is looking at a life-experience for potential danger, rather than for any gain.
I'm not educated in psychology .. so, this may sound like a stupid question ..
.. I thought that people who were insane, a psychopath, or someone suffering from schizophrenia has NO awareness of this disorder ..
So, pp, they DO? Wow, this really makes me wonder because I know people with problems and I thought that they didn't know .. I'll have to re-evaluate things.
.. I thought that people who were insane, a psychopath, or someone suffering from schizophrenia has NO awareness of this disorder ..
So, pp, they DO? Wow, this really makes me wonder because I know people with problems and I thought that they didn't know .. I'll have to re-evaluate things.
So, is it on a sub-conscious level where in their lucid state, they don't know .. but, they do know and act on it, but, just don't realize this?
"But I was thinking along the lines of .."
Oh, I thought you meant it, literally that a person KNEW this .. silly me, lol
Thanks for explaining.
As for your instructors proposal .. I would have to inclined to believe more along Branh's reasoning. Certainly, there's nothing wrong with being cautious of potential dangers, but at the same time .. it really doesn't hold much merit, in reality. For instance: say, I killed somebody and never got caught .. you could check my history from now until doomsday .. you'd find nothing, but, I could still be dangerous.
However, I also believe that we are programmed to a certain extent, stemming from life-experiences, taught by parents & society .. and if we are programmed to take care of ourselves, then have the ability to side-step situations in which could bring us harm. Where, on the other hand .. if we don't allow this programming by learning from experiences, then we are more apt to fall head-first into a dangerous situation without much thought of the consequences.
So, holding true to my Piscean nature .. I take a stand on both sides.
Oh, I thought you meant it, literally that a person KNEW this .. silly me, lol
Thanks for explaining.
As for your instructors proposal .. I would have to inclined to believe more along Branh's reasoning. Certainly, there's nothing wrong with being cautious of potential dangers, but at the same time .. it really doesn't hold much merit, in reality. For instance: say, I killed somebody and never got caught .. you could check my history from now until doomsday .. you'd find nothing, but, I could still be dangerous.
However, I also believe that we are programmed to a certain extent, stemming from life-experiences, taught by parents & society .. and if we are programmed to take care of ourselves, then have the ability to side-step situations in which could bring us harm. Where, on the other hand .. if we don't allow this programming by learning from experiences, then we are more apt to fall head-first into a dangerous situation without much thought of the consequences.
So, holding true to my Piscean nature .. I take a stand on both sides.
Sometimes, Sweet-P, when I wake up from one of those dreams .. I'm so upset because I just KNOW that one of my soulmates was there with me and I want him/her back.
Silly, I know ..
Silly, I know ..
STD testing is excellent, background check is cool, although i cant necessarily hold a person's background against them. i mean if a person went to jail for killing his stepfather during a brawl when he caught his stepfather beating his mother, i'd probably let that go. ya know?
credit check... i mean, thats a bit extensive. but a mental evaluation... i dont know, this day and age, people are nuts...
marriage is difficult to be honest. and i dont know if i can deal with society's expectations for it. i think i'd rather go with a life partner, at least i have the option to leave easily if i want to.
credit check... i mean, thats a bit extensive. but a mental evaluation... i dont know, this day and age, people are nuts...
marriage is difficult to be honest. and i dont know if i can deal with society's expectations for it. i think i'd rather go with a life partner, at least i have the option to leave easily if i want to.
No, not bad .. it's just that I never heard a Pisces before consider such critical conditions before submitting to love .. so, I figured it must be your moon, since this is a Virgo trait.
Actually, us Fish could save ourselves a lot of heartache if we could all be so conscientious .. instead, the rest of us usually just give into our hearts, no matter the consequences.
Actually, us Fish could save ourselves a lot of heartache if we could all be so conscientious .. instead, the rest of us usually just give into our hearts, no matter the consequences.
but thats soooo not what love is about. love is risque and its about trust. what good is it if you have to go through a check list first, sign a contract, have your credit run, and all that crap first? where's the spontanuity of it all? love is an emotion that is supposed to be overpowering and all conquering. theres no romance in tests and checklists, although i dont deny that it's a good idea. im just not modern enough to go through with it i suppose. call me old fashioned.
life is a scary place, with or without a soul mate. a husband? thats scary. you could be married to that person for twenty years and still not know his ass. he could turn out to be the unibomber... but then you could also have married an angel in human form and have the best fifty years of your life. how do you pick and choose which one is which? and if your soul is doing all this recognizing of people, you'd think it would tell you that who you're recognizing is bad or good. damn soul. need an instruction manual for that too!
P-Angel...I read your post, and I agree with you...I would hate to go through life without meeting my soulmate. I feel that when you meet your soulmate, you are attracted to each other like magnets and nothing should be able to break that apart. Maybe its the romantic in me, but I feel soulmates will always make you feel alive.
Soulmates will risk it all for you, and vice versa...
Do you think its possible to meet your soulmate and that as strong as you know you are perfect, life breaks you apart, either due to our own selfishness or horrible perception of things...the same way you think people are born with gifts and dont act upon and work in the wrong fields their whole lives?
Soulmates will risk it all for you, and vice versa...
Do you think its possible to meet your soulmate and that as strong as you know you are perfect, life breaks you apart, either due to our own selfishness or horrible perception of things...the same way you think people are born with gifts and dont act upon and work in the wrong fields their whole lives?
I'm not sure about any of the things that have been mentioned here .. but, what I think I'm close to believing is that an ultimate soulmate doesn't really exist. Many, just regular souls we encounter and our psyche knows this .. but, one that was put on this earth just for us? Naw .. because, it would just stand to reason that an energy THAT powerful would stop at nothing.
It seems really ignorant, to me, to believe that this other soul would exist, yet, we don't find them .. it seems to me that the magnetic attraction would force their way towards each other .. no matter what. And, if we ran across somebody to whom we were so drawn to that it over-powered us .. how could we possibly ignore that?
Take relationships that we've been in .. so in love that you feel like you will just stop breathing if you're not together .. yet, it didn't last, the relationship ended, right?
So, if an attraction is THAT overwhelming and it's NOT your true soulmate .. do you think you would have the capability of ignoring it, or over-looking it? That doesn't even sound possible to me.
I don't know .. just thinking that there are some things we CANNOT decide, no matter how smart or how driven we are for success .. something this powerful would supersede anything we "think" .. our brains of only using somewhere in the ballpark of like 13% seems puny and insignificant compared to the magnitude of our souls ..
It seems really ignorant, to me, to believe that this other soul would exist, yet, we don't find them .. it seems to me that the magnetic attraction would force their way towards each other .. no matter what. And, if we ran across somebody to whom we were so drawn to that it over-powered us .. how could we possibly ignore that?
Take relationships that we've been in .. so in love that you feel like you will just stop breathing if you're not together .. yet, it didn't last, the relationship ended, right?
So, if an attraction is THAT overwhelming and it's NOT your true soulmate .. do you think you would have the capability of ignoring it, or over-looking it? That doesn't even sound possible to me.
I don't know .. just thinking that there are some things we CANNOT decide, no matter how smart or how driven we are for success .. something this powerful would supersede anything we "think" .. our brains of only using somewhere in the ballpark of like 13% seems puny and insignificant compared to the magnitude of our souls ..
"It seems really ignorant, to me, to believe that this other soul would exist, yet, we don't find them .. it seems to me that the magnetic attraction would force their way towards each other .. no matter what. And, if we ran across somebody to whom we were so drawn to that it over-powered us .. how could we possibly ignore that?"
I agree...
But I do "know" this one guy who I just connected with, it was not a "love at first sight" thing, like our friendship grew over the years, we briefly dated- but HAD to break up because of circumstances...
But til this day I still feel strongly about him... we just had this psyche connection, I cannot explain it lol
I felt that he needed me, as well as I needed him, like we balanced each other I guess
We are friends now b/c we decided to end it (Long story)... but everytime we see each other (which is rarely) I feel like we belong to each other. I feel like I am his and he knows it ( & vice versa).
It's an incredible feeling, that I have never felt before...
We are the same but yet different...
Our "relationship" was so intense, we both risked so much...
I can honestly say that he was the only person I ever connected with on that level...
Then there was the Aries... [a little off topic]
whom I "loved" ever since I was 15
...
He is the guy I could see myself marrying (seriously)...
I just cannot keep him out of my mind...
I agree...
But I do "know" this one guy who I just connected with, it was not a "love at first sight" thing, like our friendship grew over the years, we briefly dated- but HAD to break up because of circumstances...
But til this day I still feel strongly about him... we just had this psyche connection, I cannot explain it lol
I felt that he needed me, as well as I needed him, like we balanced each other I guess
We are friends now b/c we decided to end it (Long story)... but everytime we see each other (which is rarely) I feel like we belong to each other. I feel like I am his and he knows it ( & vice versa).
It's an incredible feeling, that I have never felt before...
We are the same but yet different...
Our "relationship" was so intense, we both risked so much...
I can honestly say that he was the only person I ever connected with on that level...
Then there was the Aries... [a little off topic]
whom I "loved" ever since I was 15
...He is the guy I could see myself marrying (seriously)...
I just cannot keep him out of my mind...
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