The Love and Hate of being a Pisces.

Hello Everyone,
I'm a Pisces, and quite frankly I hate it sometimes. Being super-sensitive drives me nuts because I can sense the deepest depths of what a person is feeling before they can admit that subconsciously they feel it. It's not easy being in a room with a group of people and knowing what each individual are secretly all about. I have very few friends, because there aren't too many people who can come to understand me or tolerate my emotional nature. I'm very complex. It's like I'm very sensitive and emotional, yet there are times to where I will become very cerebral, distant, and unfeeling. I'm super-supportive, dependable, and I like belonging to a group, but I'd love to remain detatched and independent as my own boss, you know? I have a gentle demeanor, but if you approach me in a aggressive, judgmental way or in any manner negatively. . . I would bite your head off. When I do make friends, it's usually for keeps. I don't form light, superficial friendships. If I sense that you are not all that serious about friendship, then I won't be at all serious about you. I'll just look at you as a friend whose here today, then expect you to be gone tommorrow. My best friend is a Virgo, and still up to this day I question how is it that he managed to tolerate an individual like me? I have hurt some people, I can truly admit that, but honestly, it was unintentional. I would come across individuals who'd make assumptions and guesses to what I want or who I am. (It's frustrating.) Why is it that they always try to guess what's in my head or what I am thinking? Does anyone else have difficulty being a Pisces?

Every frigging day! I hear what you said, I can relate to all of it.

Difficult yes, hopeless no.

"I have a gentle demeanor, but if you approach me in a aggressive, judgmental way or in any manner negatively. . . I would bite your head off."

This sounds familiar! Being a Pisces is the hardest thing I've ever had to do in my life. And, yet, I have to live it everyday single day. Very few people take the time to understand. It's not a matter of being able to understand - it's just that Pisces think everything out - so deeply - to every little tone in a person's voice - that it gets quite annoying to others. So, maybe, you were right when you said not too many people can TOLERATE our emotional natures.

It's funny that your best friend is Virgo - so is mine. And, I married him. He keeps me on my toes and analyzes everything I say, but at the same time, he's very compassionate and tolerant about my emotional nature. Everything I say and do is a direct response that stems from my emotional state - everything!

Difficult, yes, but as Haffo said - not hopeless!

All depends on self awareness. You have to be aware of your qualities and learn to direct them.

That's the hard part, Haffo. I am very aware - of everything about myself. I know my goodness, as well as, my evilness and I can be a total witch - there's no mistaking that. But, directing qualities - that is extremely hard for me. I think about the things I've learned and the things I have to offer and I know the correct path to take - but, once someone approaches me aggressively - everything I know about myself, goes right out of the window and I have no control. It's not until later, after I've calmed down, that I can then see that I did it again.

I admire you, if you are able to control and direct. I've lived 46 years and still have not learned how to do that. Fortunately for me, I have a Virgo in my life who is able to remain composed in most situations and I lean on him a lot.

Give me an example.

"approaches me aggressively"

To beat you?

What I mean is, if I express myself and I know that I'm being sensitive, but another person takes what I said and throws it back in my face to critisize me for how I feel -then I take offense to it and I am ready to fight.

As far as someone coming at me physically aggressive - I am fearless to that. I'm little, but tough. I will physically defend, I can handle that part.

I'm pickn' up what you're put'n down!! I think a lot of fish go through this loathing of their own sensitivity & emotions, I know I have. Especially when we create unintentional problems for ourselves by not being able to hold them back.

I find it really hard being so sensitive to other peoples moods. I often get wierd vibes when something going down or there's something that someone doesn't want exposed.

I try not to be so controlled my my emotions but that's a lot easier dreamed about than done when being a pisces.

I understand you P-Angel and BJ. This all happens when we dont have our own internal steel rod to which we can depend. When we dont have it, we simply depend on others steel rod which means "what other people say". This is funny. Pisces likes Virgos for exactly that part. All Virgos seems to have mastered tha rod stuff. We simply try to figure it our for ourselves. However I dont see ourselves as "needy to Virgo". We can develop these skills on our own.

P-Angel:

Expressing your anger is matter of art. It takes alot of skill and information to perform it. Dont take it as easy thing to do. Learn it. It's called anger management. Look it up at the internet. Grab it.

sigh...

I so feel all of you!

So many times, my sensitivity gets me into so much trouble, and i always tell myself to not do it again when faced with the same situation.... but... I always regret later.

good to see your back fish man im kinda moody and blunt so you have to read between the lines with some of my posts okay

It's not really anger, Haffo. I don't necessarily get mad. In fact, I rarely get angry. It's mostly just a defense thing. I'll appear to be angry because I'm lashing out, but, I don't feel that way at all. It's hard to explain.

2ndDecanFish - if you're still listening, we all know what you're talking about, me, Haffo, BJ & Fishman - so, if you need to talk some more, we're here!

As I get older, I usually remain silent in a room full of people (mainly because of what BJ said) - the emotions of other people are really intense at times and very difficult to deal with.

But, probably the hardest thing I've encountered is when you're talking to someone and obviously, I can see all the way down to the core of the "why's" this situation happened (I can't just look at something at face value - the meaning is always deeper and I have to see that far in) - but, when I'm with another person and they can only see the outside of the situation, it irritates me. They take what thier eyes see, or make an interpretation from just the words alone without listening to the tone, or if they don't watch facial expressions or body language (which tells a lot, right). My frustration arises and then I feel the need to explain the deeper meaning. What had happened to this person to cause this reaction. There is a root to every problem and every person and I just get so frustrated when a person can't or won't look any deeper. I'm just like, how can you accept that for face value? I can't stop myself from digging - and I know that is annoying to other people.

Hello Everyone,
I guess that was a good topic, but you want to know something, Pisceans aren't very needy of Virgoans in a "one-way street" sort of way. It actually goes both ways to where they form a mutual support system . . .that is if they both work at creating that balance. Anyway, one of you pointed out how your sensitivity causes problems for you. (That's so true for me.) You see, my father is a Capricorn, who was divorced by my Aquarian mother. She divorced him because she's convinced that he was cheating on her, with the woman who is now my current step mom. I moved in with my father at the age of 18, and after 2 years of living with him, I saw that it was a mistake and a strain for the both of us. You see, I'm sensitive, but I love having my space and I'm independent. My father on the other hand, is controlling, loves to dominate, and is stuck in the past when it comes to me,is but having a hard time catching up in the present. That combinaton caused a huge strain for us. He was trying to lock me down by telling me that I'm rushing to grow up, when I've already grew up. I'm 24 years old. As an individual, he doesn't even know me, yet he makes guesses and assumptions to who I am. We cannot even communicate without things getting tense. He would take what I've said, then throw my words back into my face in a "twisted, all-out-of context-manner" and make things unpleasant. Once, he struck up a conversation with me going back into memory lane asking me, "Do you remember all of the times I brought you your Christmas presents to your house every year?" I said, "Yeah, I remember all of those times, but if you are asking for specifics as in what were the things you got for me, then I can't tell you, because I don't have those things anymore." All of a sudden, he just acted all offended and call my step mom into the room. He started going on about how he's ashamed of me, and then told my step mom that I said I don't remember ever getting any gifts from him on Christmas. (Totally out of context.) They both started going on about how ungreatful and unappreciative I was. From that day on, I was completely turned off. It didn't end right there either. My Capricorn father would nag about how I don't share my hard earned money with my family. I mean, he comes to me to ask for money like as if I'm some sort of insurance policy. If I tell him that I can't and that I'm saving it for something, he would start complaining. You want to know something, that man gave me migraines and headaches with all of the stupid sh*t he brought to me. He treats me differently from my half brother and half sister, yet when I'm around, he would try to put up a front by acting like an a**hole to them at the moment but when I'm not around, he's different. As for my stepmom, I never heard the story of how she met my father. She was always kinda distant from me. We talk, but it never seems to go any further than small talk. To me, it always felt uncomfortable for me to live with my father. So, I wrote him a 4 paged letter venting my frustrations of him alone and then I left out of town to live with my cousin to land a job in an ER as a Patient Care Technician. Still, he has no clue where I am and it has been nearly 2 months. You see, when a Pisces become emotionally distant? You can really feel it. My father made me grew more and more distant from him. He use to always come at me with all these stupid accusations about how I don't care about the family and that I'm selfish and stuck up. (Screw you.) All I'm trying to do is to learn how to stand up on my own two feet. At 18, I was learning how to do that, yet he was side tracking me. He was draining me of my hard earned money by complaining of how I don't give to the family (my stepmom, half-brother, and half-sister.) enough, like as if it was my obligation. My father drew this rift between myself and them by making things completely uncomfortable. Oh great, I'm sorry ya'll. . . I'm spilling

You know 2ndDecanFish, I don't really think it's anything you did to, or with, your dad. I know it's difficult to figure people sometimes, and if I hadn't been through this myself, I probably wouldn't get it - but, it's because of your mother. You are a child (not meaning your a child - just his child) of both your parents and when he looks at you, he thinks of her. It's terrible, I know, for anyone to be like that. But, people are, and it's sad, really. I mean, how can someone do that? But, they do! It's resentment because his marriage went sour and since you are the child of both your mother and father - he would take this out on you. It's not fair - at all! You probably did the right thing, by leaving the letter and then dipping. It will give him time to come to terms with everything. And, hopefully, one day, he will see his mistakes and want to mend the bridge between you. I'm so sorry that this has happened to you. And, to beat all, you're Pisces, so this whole scenerio makes it more intense because you feel emotions so deeply.

Keep a positive attitude and try to find some understanding, if that's possible. You're 24 and have the whole world in front of you - so many wonderful moments to live. Anytime someone in particular gets me down, I always think to myself: The only people who effect my life are the ones who are in it. If you're seperated from you father, then he doesn't effect you. Concentrate on the people who are in your life, for they are your influences. You'll overcome, we have faith in that. There are so many people who will want to love you for who you are - concentrate on them.

Peace

2ndDecan:

You didn't explained why Virgos need Pisces.

My apologies Haffo,
I'll continue on what I began. Like I stated earlier about Virgoans and Pisceans, a mutual support system is formed. Now, with the whole thing of needing each other? I think it differs with every Virgoan and Piscean pair. Me, for instance. My "down to earth" Virgoan best friend showed me how to loosen up and have fun. He continously encourages me to speak my mind and heart just so that it wouldn't become a burden for me later. He looks after me by forseeing things that are a potential problem for me, and he protects me from it after knowing how I feel things deeply. If he's not around, he'll ask somebody to take care of me in his absence. He gives helpful tips and advice. While for my Virgoan best friend, I seem to have a relaxation effect on him. How? (Don't know.) A typical day for him is just hectic and full of drama. He would often find himself in the involved in someone elses problems. I would become supportive and take some of the everyday load off of his shoulders by lending a helping hand, or whenever he's in trouble I'm the first person that he calls to save him. Pisceans tend to give that sensitive understanding that's incomparable to any other sign. With Virgos being mis-understood all of the time . . . more than likely we have just what they are looking for. Though, like I said earlier. . . it differs for the individuals.

Hey Pisces people...It's good to hear all of this b/c if all goes as scheduled, I will be the mother of a Pisces baby.

I have a question to ask though...How much of your family influence shapes who you are as a person? The reason I ask is that I think my Pisces man has been irrevocably damaged by his mother which makes him take it out on me sometimes.

Also, what makes Pisces so prone to suicide? Is it just a certain few or have most of you felt that down at one point? Just curious...

CL

Hey CL,

For the most part, my family had very little influence over my Picean nature. They effected me as far as how I handle money, cleanliness, and all the material things, but, emotionally - Pisceans pretty much go their own direction (to live in the dream world, of course).

The suicide thing! Oh, yes, that is present. Most definitely. As for me, it's not about being depressed and feeling unworthy - which causes most people to do this. Therapist almost always say it's depression and they will give the person meds. But, that's not it. It's mostly due to the fact that we feel like nobody else in this world knows how deeply we go and it's not that we are sad or depressed about it, but, it's because it drives us crazy - madness is what causes us to kill ourselves. For every time that someone pushes us aside because we think too deep, or analyze reactions, or take just a single sentence and break it down to each and every word to find out what makes people tick, etc - it pushes us closer and closer to madness. Insanity is what causes us to commit suicide.

Woe is me, is what we go through first. The more you get this feeling from us - the closer we are to death.

CancerLady - with your P-baby, the only thing I can tell you is that ALWAYS, ALWAYS listen to him/her when he's/she's going off on some kind of mind f*ck. It's hard and will drain all of your energy - but, if he/she doesn't take everything in to shred to pieces - then he'll/she'll go mad.

sounds like your fathers taking it out on you because he doesn't want to admit he was cheating at least that what it would seem anyways.i don't think you should be worried whether or not it's your sensitivity,he's definatly trying to play victem for some reason or another.

guilty conscous hmmm maybe

Hmmmm.... I totally get the father son thing. Some people are great at being parents and some just don't cut it. Insecurity and regret within their own lives I think. The money stuff I don't understand. I've always been the one who hit them up for cash like it should be. I know two people with Cappy parents and they both have a lot of trouble with them. Maybe there's something in that.

Suicide- I don't think it's madness in the true looney bin sense. I've never heard of pisces being prone to suicide but I've definately not suprized to hear it. We get so ingulfed by our feelings at times that it can be quite overwhelming. When we love someone we would throw everything at it. All of a sudden we can hear the birds singing, smell the flowers, see how beautiful the colours are in the rainbow, everything is beatiful. When we lose someone or something that's important to us, we feel every inch of that 12inch blade stabbing into our heart constantly. We try to keep ourselves occupied with other things but for some damn reason our emotions control us and it can be really hard to see a way out of that sometimes.

Snap out of it, get over it, it's time to move on. Trust me we try but there's something out there that won't let us fish off the hook so easy (no pun intended).

But today is a happy day... Happy, happy, joy, joy!!!!!!

Cancerlady if you want an example.You can pick up Kurt Cobains diary it may give you an idea of that suicide thing.He was a pisces.Courtney or someone decided to sell it.Alot of it was very deeply emotionally motivated and alot to do with caring too much for people,he didn't want to feel all of it along with other problems physically(stomach)anymore.He didn't snap out of it so to speak.

"some damn reason our emotions control us and it can be really hard to see a way out of that sometimes."

Ditto here. This part is very interesting and frusturating as well. Sometimes when I see those little things that I can't explain, my mind stucks on them and can't let them go. My mind stucks on them soo much, that I'm becoming very focused on it and it draws all my attention to the point that I can't see anything else that surrounds me. For example: In that moment, if you have said anything to me, you will get extremly surpised. Altought my body still stays there, my mind will be elsewhere. It will count every possibility to make the situation any sense. Unless I find an explaination to it, my further judgement will be clouded. Therefore I won't be able to see anything else ahead of the situation. Of course that part may drive us crazy and insane. Considering the part that we have little patience on things, which means if we dont find an answer in short time, we will start to hurt ourselves. The last part is very unlikely.

Addition to above:

Those little things doesn't have to be important things. It's quite enough for them to just tick our mind. The rest is like a automatic process.

Correction:

"The last part is very unlikely" is incorrect. The correct one is "The last part is very likely".

I believe all of the above happens due to our extremly analysig nature which is very prone to the detail. When we learn how things are working, which caused ticks in our minds before, our mind power in that area gets free. We can use that free power in constructive way. For example, for our lives. I also believe that Piscean nature holds alot of more mind power than any other sign do. It is obvious because being extremly prone to the detail, which also may drive us to madness, and still being able to live as normal person requires alot of mind energy. I don't think Pisceans are lazy, as many people usually see, but they are definetly extremly overwhelmed by their sensations. A life passed without understanding the meaning of these sensations is like hell. When meanings of sensations arent known, things simply are changing soo fast that if someone else would see it at least for a second, they also would get extremly overwhelmed. That is why I always say that if people would see the real nature of Pisces, they would simply run away. They can't handle it.

2ndDF

I do posses those qualities as they are typical of water signs. There is one huge difference. I enjoy being a Scorpio. Every moment of it.

19Eleven:

Good. Now wtf was the point?

Wow...Deep stuff.

I ask this because my Pisces man seems to be stuck on what his mother and his first baby's mother did to him. I don't want to be insensitive, but I am tired of him always saying in one sentence...Oh you make me feel like I want to feel like noone else has ever made me feel...but in the next he says...You are a woman Ive been through this before you are going to go this, this, this, and that. I say...If I am stressing you out so much, FREAKING LEAVE! I will hurt but I'll get over it!

Almost everything he says is a contradiction of what he either said before or what he does. And no matter what I do, I am always the bad guy! He's always the victim. Poor me, pity me. Well I don't mind listening to him go on about his problems but when he starts making me pay for things that other people did to him...I just get to the point to where I say GET OVER IT! You are not the only one who had a bad childhood or a messed up relationship!

Another thing that TOTALLY pissed me off but I've noticed he does since I met him was that he'll ALWAYS talk about his first daughter, but NEVER mentions his second unless I ask about her. What's that about?

Cancerlady

Hi BellaPisces,
You want to know something? I really feel ya. I really do. Alot of times, it's hard for me to form newer relationships and bonds because I don't want them to deal with the pain and paranoia from the emotional scars that remained over the years. I keep the wounded side of myself under wraps and hidden away from others. I never let anyone see me under stress. I never let them see worry or sweat, nor do I let them see me cry. With me being emotional, I often go into hiding whenever I'm feeling anything deeply. It's hard but I don't want them to go thru with dealing with the possibility of having what happened in the past being taken out on them. So, I have this "wall" built around me and over the years it became in-penetratable. I've noticed all the attempts of others trying to get in "inch by inch" by revealing their feelings or sharing their pain and insecurities, but I would appear cold and unresponsive, when deep down . . . I'm thinking that I'm sparing them from the complication. Honestly though, it was selfish to shut them out like that. . . because I robbed them of the choice of what can and cannot endure.

pisceans! do you feel like you're explaining yourself enough? or do you expect people to just know what you're going through.
not all people are ignorant, you know!? but the ones who would like, or even love to understand you (at least a little bit better) need your help. you can't hold back your feelings and your thoughts and then say noone understands us. well you can but that wouldn't be fair, now would it?

what all of you have written in this thread is just great! thank you for that insight. but do you say the same things to a person, when you want to make them understand, or do you just go: well, what the fuss, they wouldn't understand anyway?

i want to understand... help

erm, not "help", because you did explain/help so much already, but keep on telling people.... 🙂

Why do you think that we don't explain ourselves enough?

you did explain yourselves perfectly in this thread.

i was just asking whether you explain yourselves enough when you speak with people, and afterwards they still don't understand you, maybe because they arn't interested enough or simply not able to understand.

or do you expect people to know strait away, without having to explain?

that's just a question, not a suggestion.

🙂

I dont explain myself to someone who is not interested in explaination. If they are not able to understand, well then they are not able to understand.

ok, fair enough

I didn't get it. Do you have any particular question in your mind?

but when someone who really wants to understand, say your lover, asks you: "why did you react like this?" and it's an important matter, like in a conflict, then you completely open up and try your best to explain?

that's another question, not a teas or anything.

i'm just aware that we all write here more frankly, than we do out there. correction, if we're frank here we'll be frank out there as well, it just seems to be more easy here.

"but when someone who really wants to understand, say your lover, asks you: "why did you react like this?" and it's an important matter, like in a conflict, then you completely open up and try your best to explain?"

Of course I do.

But, if that person acted like total ass in the past (I mean really very bad) then you might not get an answer tought.

SOMETHING REALLY F*@KED UP HAPPENED LAST NIGHT CAN YOU GUYS DO ME A FAVOR AND CHECK OUT THE MISC BOARD UNDER MY TOPIC AND GIVE YOUR INPUT.

I went to the most constant active boards to say that it's that serious

ok, tiamat, will do!!!!

2 swimming in opposite direction; or 2pirahna,or 2 swordfish or 2 swordfish or 2 barracudas. People generally underestimate. Aside from us knowing it's going to happen before it happens,when we focus in our drive to suceed is unfathomable. We're the freakiest sign of all,most other pisceans whom I know sex drives outstrip Scorpios we're just a little shyer with it thats all. We're pleasure and luxury seekers. We've have to be careful to much will destroy us. And we usually have the capability of having it all if we really want. We are highly intuitive we feel what others miss.Loneliness is familiar to us we don't mind it.Sometimes we prefer it.All of the first seven astronauts were water signs (check it out!)I've always had a really strange intuitive connection with babies and dogs and small children they gravitate towards me. I get along with dogs no matter how vicious. I love to stargaze,people tease me about it,theres all kind of shit going on up there it's beautiful,I play bass guitar a little bit,write haiku,take unusual pictures especially of my female friends. I like being a Pisces Theres so much yet to explore about myself.

How old are you Keef?

I guess I really belong in this site, being SUCH a pisces...all of what's written here is pretty true of me. I ended up finding this site because of trying to figure out why capricorn men have, to say the least, gotten the better of me and left me bleeding and numb.
Then I started reading about "us" and hell...I just need to accept this is who I am.
So hope you all accept me here.(of course, being a pisces, i'm ultra-sensitive that I'll be rejected)

We welcome you 🙂 pisces AND taurus 🙂