WHY i have NOT read that N word msg board.......
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Frankly...
I have met great people on here.
I am a black male, 28 years of age, born and raised and makin moves in TOLEDO.
I have VERY, VERY, VERY strong opinions on the "N" word.
Being here on dxp.net is probably one of the best things to happen to me this summer. (sad huh? hey , what can i say?)
Intelligent women.
Real conversations.
Topics.
Astrology and relationships..... finding all you to talk to about these things
means A WHOLE lot to me.
My friends are sick of me talking about that shyt ....LOL
What i'm getting to is this:
I DEEPLY VALUE the people i've found here on these boards.
and i've been going AGAINST my nature and PURPOSELY not looking at the
"N" word board because i'm fearful that i will read something that
anger me, hurt me or just plain lessen my enthusiasm to come here.
For all the white people here....
understand this:
Double standards, racism and even MORE double standards are the TRUE
foundation of The United States of America.
Minorities have NEVER truly been U.S. Citizens...
So how we deal with our identity,
how we fit into this society,
and whether or not our conditions get better or worse...are things that
will take many many many more years to perfect.
Your opinion can either help or hurt this process.
Choose wisely.
I have met great people on here.
I am a black male, 28 years of age, born and raised and makin moves in TOLEDO.
I have VERY, VERY, VERY strong opinions on the "N" word.
Being here on dxp.net is probably one of the best things to happen to me this summer. (sad huh? hey , what can i say?)
Intelligent women.
Real conversations.
Topics.
Astrology and relationships..... finding all you to talk to about these things
means A WHOLE lot to me.
My friends are sick of me talking about that shyt ....LOL
What i'm getting to is this:
I DEEPLY VALUE the people i've found here on these boards.
and i've been going AGAINST my nature and PURPOSELY not looking at the
"N" word board because i'm fearful that i will read something that
anger me, hurt me or just plain lessen my enthusiasm to come here.
For all the white people here....
understand this:
Double standards, racism and even MORE double standards are the TRUE
foundation of The United States of America.
Minorities have NEVER truly been U.S. Citizens...
So how we deal with our identity,
how we fit into this society,
and whether or not our conditions get better or worse...are things that
will take many many many more years to perfect.
Your opinion can either help or hurt this process.
Choose wisely.
Hopefully.... we can keep this on the up and up.
And i can continue loving the interaction i get on here and not give a damn about race.
Peace.
And i can continue loving the interaction i get on here and not give a damn about race.
Peace.
"Astrology and relationships..... finding all you to talk to about these things
means A WHOLE lot to me.
My friends are sick of me talking about that shyt ....LOL"
hahahahahahahaha
I'm laughing 'cause none of my friends wanna hear about it either.
You're not alone with that. This place is great in some ways.
aren't some minorities not even technically minorities anymore? maybe i'm wrong...i shouldn't really still be up
means A WHOLE lot to me.
My friends are sick of me talking about that shyt ....LOL"
hahahahahahahaha
I'm laughing 'cause none of my friends wanna hear about it either.
You're not alone with that. This place is great in some ways.
aren't some minorities not even technically minorities anymore? maybe i'm wrong...i shouldn't really still be up
ya better not read the 'N' thread
MR,
I'm a white female, age 47, from Washington, D.C. . . and this statement, "Minorities have NEVER truly been U.S. Citizens..."
For most of the time, up until just several decades ago, women, no matter the race, weren't considered equal to the white male. I know that black people do have this "bad history" that's hard to overcome and I understand that . . but, even white women have had to overcome this obsticle, rise above and come to grips that we belong to our society and are truly are US citizens.
So, eventhough, I'm not black and can't even begin to imagine how it feels to walk in your shoes . . I can remember back when I was in my 20's, just being a female . . anything. Men could sexually harrass us, make any sexual comments they wanted, some men even grabbed women's "part" and there was nothing we could do, except accept.
I realize it's not the exact same issue . . but, relative. My point is, I have some understanding as to why this is "sensitive" to you.
Tanya023, I totally agree with, "it's better to talk about it...and sometimes to ignore it.. if people are too stubborn to change, there would be no change at all even if they want it to happen" The reason for the "N" word thread was to discuss each person's point of view and I thought there are some pretty enlightening perspectives. Not everybody agreed with everyone else, but, that's what made it so wonderful, so powerful.
If everyone agrees on everything, then there's nothing to discuss, nothing to learn, nowhere to grow . . we might as well die and be done with it.
You should read that thread, most of it is very insightful as to why and how people feel, and how they process the information of other's perspective . . . everybody's views are theirs to own and that's ok . . . it doesnt' mean you have to own someone elses opinion, just grow from it.
I'm a white female, age 47, from Washington, D.C. . . and this statement, "Minorities have NEVER truly been U.S. Citizens..."
For most of the time, up until just several decades ago, women, no matter the race, weren't considered equal to the white male. I know that black people do have this "bad history" that's hard to overcome and I understand that . . but, even white women have had to overcome this obsticle, rise above and come to grips that we belong to our society and are truly are US citizens.
So, eventhough, I'm not black and can't even begin to imagine how it feels to walk in your shoes . . I can remember back when I was in my 20's, just being a female . . anything. Men could sexually harrass us, make any sexual comments they wanted, some men even grabbed women's "part" and there was nothing we could do, except accept.
I realize it's not the exact same issue . . but, relative. My point is, I have some understanding as to why this is "sensitive" to you.
Tanya023, I totally agree with, "it's better to talk about it...and sometimes to ignore it.. if people are too stubborn to change, there would be no change at all even if they want it to happen" The reason for the "N" word thread was to discuss each person's point of view and I thought there are some pretty enlightening perspectives. Not everybody agreed with everyone else, but, that's what made it so wonderful, so powerful.
If everyone agrees on everything, then there's nothing to discuss, nothing to learn, nowhere to grow . . we might as well die and be done with it.
You should read that thread, most of it is very insightful as to why and how people feel, and how they process the information of other's perspective . . . everybody's views are theirs to own and that's ok . . . it doesnt' mean you have to own someone elses opinion, just grow from it.
I'm not white, i don't live in the USA, i use the N word. I agree with Eliza too.
I agree with Eliza too....
uuuummmm.....u mean u agree with P-angel coz i didnt say anything
No one black was alive to personally witness slavery.
branh0913 its hard to not feel for your forefathers... i mean people cant help it....i cant when my dad tells me about all that my Forefathers (israelites) went thru..... i feel for them...
"To be honest, the whole slavery and holacaust thing is all forced emotions. People want to make themselves feel bad about it."
Uh, maybe sometimes, but not all the time. You can honestly say that you have never read a story about the way these people were treated and not become infuriated and bitter? It destroys your faith in the human race. It's NOT a forced emotion. It's an AUTOMATIC reaction.
Uh, maybe sometimes, but not all the time. You can honestly say that you have never read a story about the way these people were treated and not become infuriated and bitter? It destroys your faith in the human race. It's NOT a forced emotion. It's an AUTOMATIC reaction.
"And I know it is all cute and trendy to cry for people you've never met, or don't even really care about, but how about a real solution from time to time?"
People who do this annoy the piss out of me to, but don't say that some people aren't capable of being empathetic. Do you know what empathy is? Hmm? (if you've ever watched Family Guy, that was Stewie.)
I have intense emotions branh. Don't criticize things you don't understand.
People who do this annoy the piss out of me to, but don't say that some people aren't capable of being empathetic. Do you know what empathy is? Hmm? (if you've ever watched Family Guy, that was Stewie.)
I have intense emotions branh. Don't criticize things you don't understand.
THEY PAID FOR YOU, IN SOME WAY OR ANOTHER, TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHAT WE TAKE FOR GRANTED TODAY!!!
your sooo right
hmmmm, wasn't this suppose to be the "peaceful" thread ???
I think this discussion really needs to go back to where it originated -- it shouldn't have poured over onto another thread ... jeezzz
That's all I have so say anyway
I think this discussion really needs to go back to where it originated -- it shouldn't have poured over onto another thread ... jeezzz
That's all I have so say anyway
ur right Cappiesweetie... coz we guys can hurt Mercury rising's feelings
I'm trying to defend him. Because I understand where he's coming from and I feel like branh is discrediting his valid points.
Hey Eliza and Wheels,
I definately with Mercury on everything he had said ... that's why I feel it's unfair for all of this stuff to be put on a thread he created. The whole soul purpose for creating this thread was to give an alternate opinion.
I feel the thread has been destroyed now
Not by you two! But by those who didn't keep the discussion where it started.
No ... I don't want Mercury to feel disrespected, that's why I'm stating this. LOL! Like Mercury, I refused to make a "serious" comment on the other board too ... for the same things he has stated.
Actually, he and Branh have alike viewpoints
I definately with Mercury on everything he had said ... that's why I feel it's unfair for all of this stuff to be put on a thread he created. The whole soul purpose for creating this thread was to give an alternate opinion.
I feel the thread has been destroyed now
Not by you two! But by those who didn't keep the discussion where it started.No ... I don't want Mercury to feel disrespected, that's why I'm stating this. LOL! Like Mercury, I refused to make a "serious" comment on the other board too ... for the same things he has stated.
Actually, he and Branh have alike viewpoints
Actually, he and Branh have alike viewpoints
i dont think so they do....
I don't really see the similarity. Do you mean because both think people should rise above stereotypes?
I don't really see the similarity. Do you mean because both think people should rise above stereotypes?
Yes, that's exactly what I meant
Yes, that's exactly what I meant
I suppose that would make their viewpoints alike. But while Mercury Rising acknowledges double standards, branh seems to think they are just an excuse to play the victim. Which isn't always the case.
happiness..hooray for Earth and to all the humankind
Amen girl
Amen girl
yaaaaaaaa tanya and cappie....
KNIT YOUR HEARTS TOGETHER IN UNITY
YAY!!! This is more like it
LOL!!!!
at those pics
at those picsELIZA..TANYA....and the wonderful HONEY COE.... i love ya'll.... i thank ya'll.
Ya'll and a few others really make peace with your words.
I can read what others have said, get MAD HEATED and then calm down after
reading what the three of you have said(and others, but them are my faves !)
HONEY COE... you got a friend for life - no doubt.
OKAY.........MERCURY'S RESPONSE TO THIS SHYT ---------
This thread backfired on me obviously. Having 2nd thoughts, but hey.
DXP would be too good to be true if there werent a few ignorant fux lerking around.
FOR THE RECOR
#1. ME AND BRAHN have nothing in common. NOT A MUTHA FUKIN THING.
#2. Never said shyt about being a victim, never said shYt about slavery,
Never said shyt about enducing so called "white guilt " (that's some funny shyt)
#3. this is EXACTLY why i never went to the "N" word thread.
EXACTLY WHY.
I know me. I know i can't handle the careless attitude people bring to discussions of
RACE, ETHNICITY, U.S. SOCIETY .... yo - just being Black, Being a Woman etc.
I HATE the insensitivity, i HATE the sorry sarcasm, i HATE the evil people bring to these controversial subjects. It shows you the EXACT type of thinking that made things hard for minorities and women in the first place.
While in college, i had a sociology class.
U.T.'s student body is like 15% black, about 70% white.
When the WHITE professor taught about ANY black historical subject (slavery, civil rights) LITERALLY HALF of the white students would:
PUT THEIR HEADS DOWN ON THE DESK OR SIMPLY WALK OUT OF THE CLASS.
That showed me,
Open forum discussions do not work when white people are invited to discuss
the atrocities experienced by others.
Few will take the invite and have meaningful discourse.
But MOST will refuse the invite in some way, or take it and abuse it.
And like i said...it's just proof of the very mindset that allowed
all of the great tragedies of the world to occur.
and like my girl said: "it's a little too late to try to make someone feel guilty"
Ya'll and a few others really make peace with your words.
I can read what others have said, get MAD HEATED and then calm down after
reading what the three of you have said(and others, but them are my faves !)
HONEY COE... you got a friend for life - no doubt.
OKAY.........MERCURY'S RESPONSE TO THIS SHYT ---------
This thread backfired on me obviously. Having 2nd thoughts, but hey.
DXP would be too good to be true if there werent a few ignorant fux lerking around.
FOR THE RECOR
#1. ME AND BRAHN have nothing in common. NOT A MUTHA FUKIN THING.
#2. Never said shyt about being a victim, never said shYt about slavery,
Never said shyt about enducing so called "white guilt " (that's some funny shyt)
#3. this is EXACTLY why i never went to the "N" word thread.
EXACTLY WHY.
I know me. I know i can't handle the careless attitude people bring to discussions of
RACE, ETHNICITY, U.S. SOCIETY .... yo - just being Black, Being a Woman etc.
I HATE the insensitivity, i HATE the sorry sarcasm, i HATE the evil people bring to these controversial subjects. It shows you the EXACT type of thinking that made things hard for minorities and women in the first place.
While in college, i had a sociology class.
U.T.'s student body is like 15% black, about 70% white.
When the WHITE professor taught about ANY black historical subject (slavery, civil rights) LITERALLY HALF of the white students would:
PUT THEIR HEADS DOWN ON THE DESK OR SIMPLY WALK OUT OF THE CLASS.
That showed me,
Open forum discussions do not work when white people are invited to discuss
the atrocities experienced by others.
Few will take the invite and have meaningful discourse.
But MOST will refuse the invite in some way, or take it and abuse it.
And like i said...it's just proof of the very mindset that allowed
all of the great tragedies of the world to occur.
and like my girl said: "it's a little too late to try to make someone feel guilty"
Darn it .... I've tried to get my "peace and love" pics to show but they won't come up properly
Some white girl sent me a message on my myspace page the other day asking if i date white women.
I stalled on my answer.
She hit me back to tell me why i should hook up with her, she wrote:
"I use slang alot and everybody says i'm just like one of da niggaz"
I haven't spoken to her since and have no plans to.
I stalled on my answer.
She hit me back to tell me why i should hook up with her, she wrote:
"I use slang alot and everybody says i'm just like one of da niggaz"
I haven't spoken to her since and have no plans to.
Really Mercury ????
Wow, well ... people like that are immature and very stupid in the sense of human nature. It may be a good thing that you didn't don't go for that type of thing because she seems to be feeding into an image.
LOL, like some other women do ... jeezzz, everything's all about images ... my goodness ....
Wow, well ... people like that are immature and very stupid in the sense of human nature. It may be a good thing that you didn't don't go for that type of thing because she seems to be feeding into an image.
LOL, like some other women do ... jeezzz, everything's all about images ... my goodness ....
"I use slang alot and everybody says i'm just like one of da niggaz"
She sounds lika a total asshat.
She sounds lika a total asshat.
hmmm, the fact that put her "culture/race" or whatever(lol) in a text seems to be alittle troublesome.
Hmm, I wouldn't care ............... what't the point in even asking that ? Ha, I guess I just don't get it.
Hmm, I wouldn't care ............... what't the point in even asking that ? Ha, I guess I just don't get it.
Well,
If a guy were to project his cultural background as being the main reason why I should go out with him ... then that would turn me off.
Sorry, I'm sooooo not into that stuff! Ugh! If you are a person, then that's what you are ... period. Jeeezzzz, if everyone was stripped of there nationality, race, creed, religion .... then we are all the same anyway ... ahaha just complexion differences
Oh wait, certain races make a difference in complexions too! Oh dear ... it never ends
Phew! Well it ends with me ... to hell with all the trifles
If a guy were to project his cultural background as being the main reason why I should go out with him ... then that would turn me off.
Sorry, I'm sooooo not into that stuff! Ugh! If you are a person, then that's what you are ... period. Jeeezzzz, if everyone was stripped of there nationality, race, creed, religion .... then we are all the same anyway ... ahaha just complexion differences
Oh wait, certain races make a difference in complexions too! Oh dear ... it never ends
Phew! Well it ends with me ... to hell with all the trifles
One day, I was studying in the cafe near the campus library where a heard this man speaking to all of his friends.
He was a
He was a
Okay, I see what you're saying SB ... hmmmm, I guess I like to think I can identify regardless of where someone comes from. There was one girl I went to school with that was such a snob! She would talk seriously to anyone outside her own cultural group! Give me a break, I couldn't believe her ... she put the the "I" in self-important. Haha, I guess she felt I was suppose to be just like her ....
Whatever @ Her
Whatever
@ HerUmmm, yes honeycoe .... everyone commits crimes.
I strongly doubt that when a crime is committed, I specific cultural is targeted ... crime is crime.
I strongly doubt that when a crime is committed, I specific cultural is targeted ... crime is crime.
Oh no SB, what you say is true ... hhaha, for some reason most people want to know a person cultural/ racial background when it comes to sites like these or dating sites ... weird.
Honeycoe,
I'm curious as to why you think one race commits crimes against each other ... never heard of anything like that before so I was just wondering.
Honeycoe,
I'm curious as to why you think one race commits crimes against each other ... never heard of anything like that before so I was just wondering.
OOOOH No .... that comment was made by me honeycoe 
Yeah, I know *shrugs 2x*
I'm like whatever with all that stuff ... it's so overrated. LOL!!! And the people who seem to "march against" this type of stuff are the main ones that keep it going LOL!!!!!!!!
Still on that darn soapbox of mine
I'm like whatever with all that stuff ... it's so overrated. LOL!!! And the people who seem to "march against" this type of stuff are the main ones that keep it going LOL!!!!!!!!
Still on that darn soapbox of mine
Keep up tension?
No not so? I was just merely pointing out those things because I was making a point about how I agree with Mercury not speaking to that girl who emailed him.
However, I was just conversating ... not trying to keep up anything. It's a shocker to me because I'm not around people who make issues with things like that ... sorry.
No not so? I was just merely pointing out those things because I was making a point about how I agree with Mercury not speaking to that girl who emailed him.
However, I was just conversating ... not trying to keep up anything. It's a shocker to me because I'm not around people who make issues with things like that ... sorry.
Honey...baby...sweetie coe.
NO ONE was trying to ....look, you know i dont wanna piss you off
Ayo... I can explain her point to ya'll though ...she was talkin about
"black on black" crime.
If you've never heard of that, then you've probably never heard of Willie Lynch either.
And that's okay...but it does mean our convo on this topic can only go so far.
I appreciate all the conversation...i hope that i've been able to bring something to DXP.
Let's get off this racial stuff.
How do i pull the plug on this thread ?? LOL.
NO ONE was trying to ....look, you know i dont wanna piss you off
Ayo... I can explain her point to ya'll though ...she was talkin about
"black on black" crime.
If you've never heard of that, then you've probably never heard of Willie Lynch either.
And that's okay...but it does mean our convo on this topic can only go so far.
I appreciate all the conversation...i hope that i've been able to bring something to DXP.
Let's get off this racial stuff.
How do i pull the plug on this thread ?? LOL.
very true.
However... this racial stuff is VERY important to this society.
America was built on racist practices. Literally and figuratively BUILT on racism.
It needs to be talked about at some time.
BUT CERTAINLY NOT on dxp - LOL
However... this racial stuff is VERY important to this society.
America was built on racist practices. Literally and figuratively BUILT on racism.
It needs to be talked about at some time.
BUT CERTAINLY NOT on dxp - LOL
"By Indian I mean Indian citizens. Or to be more precise to clear confusion Citizens of India."
SB,white people called american natives that not themselves until they found out no matter how much correcting they did,it wasn't going to change.Wasn't really an insult either just apparence based misinformation really.Natives usually still consider themselves thier tribes name before indian just normally not too offended by it much as the savage or the overly romantic,crystal waving hippy stuff,etc.My BQ is only at half but that half is still cherokee and apache not indian
Otherwise,the other topic is just a couple of people trying to tell certain people the "N" word is a direct insult but since its "cool" or whatever to use it now,I guess its "Okay"*rolls eyes*.So yeah,anyone who doesn't want to smack people in the head with the history of the word,It'd be a good idea to stay off of it
SB,white people called american natives that not themselves until they found out no matter how much correcting they did,it wasn't going to change.Wasn't really an insult either just apparence based misinformation really.Natives usually still consider themselves thier tribes name before indian just normally not too offended by it much as the savage or the overly romantic,crystal waving hippy stuff,etc.My BQ is only at half but that half is still cherokee and apache not indian
Otherwise,the other topic is just a couple of people trying to tell certain people the "N" word is a direct insult but since its "cool" or whatever to use it now,I guess its "Okay"*rolls eyes*.So yeah,anyone who doesn't want to smack people in the head with the history of the word,It'd be a good idea to stay off of it
thanx for ur sweet words Mercury rising.... u rock
My point is that there will always be separation and discrimination within the human race.
Totally agree.....people will use anything to make ya feel inferior, their education or their $ $ $ $ $ $ $ , or color, or height or religion or whatever....its crazy....why cant we just accept and respect everyone for their individuality???? .....
Wow, I feel like I'm just taking a peep into a room where everyone is participating in a WWE Verbal Smackdown. (LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!!) Who will win the title?
WWE Verbal Smackdown
Haha!!! You are such a mind reader
Honeycoe,
~sigh~ last night I felt that you were trying to turn modest conversation into an arguement, so I left... not everyone falls for that kind of thing
SB and I were just making observations concerning how weird some things may seem. Hahaha, you haven't been around long enough I see ... SB and I agree to disagree most of the time ... it's fun
Keeping up tension ????
Wow ... because I state my experience? Yeah, okay ... whatever ^_^.
Willing accomplice ????
Good grief! Haha, I see why SB took her leave after that comment.
Haha!!! You are such a mind reader
Honeycoe,
~sigh~ last night I felt that you were trying to turn modest conversation into an arguement, so I left... not everyone falls for that kind of thing
SB and I were just making observations concerning how weird some things may seem. Hahaha, you haven't been around long enough I see ... SB and I agree to disagree most of the time ... it's fun
Keeping up tension ????
Wow ... because I state my experience? Yeah, okay ... whatever ^_^.
Willing accomplice ????
Good grief! Haha, I see why SB took her leave after that comment.
Aww Honeycoe,
Calm down, no one's against anyone here
Calm down, no one's against anyone here
lol
lol, okay
Super
Hi P-Angel
Super
Hi P-Angel
You know what I find that is so hard for us all to communicate on here and be civil?
It's the tone in ones voice, the look on their face . . it's absent here in this land. The only thing we have is typed words. The expression on ones face speaks louder than any words that can be typed . . so, it's hard for other's to fully comprehend where the other is coming from . .
It's the tone in ones voice, the look on their face . . it's absent here in this land. The only thing we have is typed words. The expression on ones face speaks louder than any words that can be typed . . so, it's hard for other's to fully comprehend where the other is coming from . .
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