1st.2nd—...3rd world woman..??

Today I had this huge argument with some supposedly educated "academically level" low life, stupid Racist bunch of idiots (mostly WOMAN type) about the 3rd world and particularly female's position in 3rd word?.

Starting with the "way of look" and "clothing" the "way they smell" the "way they eating"?? up to the common stupid popular arguments for their belief system.

It has come to my attention to ask every intelligent people "had enough with idiots":

? What geographical regions constitute the Third World?

? Who are Third World women?

? Who defines and writes about the terms "Third World" and "Third World Women"?

The answers to the above questions are important to both postcolonial studies and feminist studies at least for me.


"Third World is a term first coined in 1952 by French demographer Alfred Sauvy to distinguish nations that aligned themselves with neither the West "Nor" with the Soviet Bloc during the Cold War. Today, however, the term is frequently used to denote nations with a low UN Human Development Index (HDI), independent of their political status.

Gayatri Chakravorty Spivak explains that the term "Third World" was initially coined by those emerging from the "old" world order: "the initial attempt in the Bandung Conference (1955) to establish a third way -- neither with the Eastern nor within the Western bloc -- in the world system, in response to the seemingly new world order established after the Second World War, was not accompanied by a commensurate intellectual effort. The only idioms deployed for the nurturing of this nascent Third World in the cultural field belonged then to positions emerging from resistance within the supposedly 'old' world order -- anti-imperialism, and/or nationalism"


NOTE?..

The term "Third World" not only designates specific geographical areas, but imaginary spaces. Third World is "a term that both signifies and blurs the functioning of an economic, political, and imaginary geography able to unite vast and vastly differentiated areas of the world into a single 'underdeveloped' terrain". The way "Third World" is used by the West is to indiscriminately lump together vastly different places.


Chandra Talpade Mohanty defines the Third World geographically: "the nation-states of Latin America, the Caribbean, Sub-Saharan Africa, South and South-east Asia, China, South Africa, and Oceania constitute the parameters of the non-European third world. In addition, black, Latino, Asian, and indigenous peoples in the U.S., Europe, Australia, some of whom have historic links with the geographically defined third worlds, also define themselves as third world peoples".

Cheryl Johnson-Odim explains that "the term Third World is frequently applied in two ways: to refer to 'underdeveloped'/overexploited geopolitical entities, i.e. countries, regions, even continents; and to refer to oppressed nationalities from these world areas who are now resident in 'developed' First World countries." Johnson-Odim further identifies problems some Third World women have with First World feminism: "While it may be legitimately argued that there is no one school of thought on feminism among First World feminists -- who are not, after all, monolithic -- there is still, among Third World women, a widely accepted perception that the feminism emerging from white, middle-class Western women narrowly confines itself to a struggle against gender discrimination".

The use of the term "Third World Women" by Western feminists has been widely critiqued. Mohanty uses the term interchangeably with "women of colour". She argues that "what seems to constitute 'women of colour' or 'third world women' as a viable oppositional alliance is a common context of struggle rather than colour or racial identifications. Similarly, it is third world women's oppositional political relation to s

Thanks for your input Primegen.

The topic is not for "good or bad" opinion?. Those are private and personal experiences, simple 3 questions was:

? What geographical regions constitute the Third World?

? Who are Third World women?

? Who defines and writes about the terms "Third World" and "Third World Women"?

You see...

I love women (female type) and they are fascinating human being no matter their origin, what is causing me to react is mixing up (stupid political ideas) with the human nature. This is insulting to me and defusing my temper when I hear dialogue like this:

- Fatima said Hi to you.
- Who's Fatima?
- Err.. You know the one from Egypt with scarf. (and tons of gossips to follow) that usually ends up with the 3rd world crap comments.

I'll reverse the situation.. (for supposedly western women).

- Sarah said Hi to you.
- Who's Sarah?
- The girl behind the help desk..
- Ahh.

Crap like this comes from ignorant, idiotic minds that does not deserve to live let alone to carry around the HUMAN title, acknowledging the existence of a human being by their locations/colour/belief and not the person who she/he is.. is insulting.

Mind you it is unlawful and illegal in Norway for comments like this (at least on the book). But, how many of us practicing it on everyday basis?

What sort of being are these first and second world women..??

If it is by education/skills, supposedly 3rd world women are generally highly skilled and effective. (% wise) compare to the local populations than their western counterparts.

Ambitions..??no other human being is more ambitious than the (3rd world) populations.. female/male alike generally speaking.

My mind saying?the use of the term (3rd world) is to humiliating and insulting "humans" from the East. (East of where in rounded Erath, would be the next question).

dear boner is all you ever do is rant or you the Dennis Miller of the site? If you want to make life better for the 3ed world woman then do so go to the 3ed world and buy some. give them work make a home for them Shaloom

Dear JT..

I believe they'll manage it without me around, perhaps they should get in to "First/Second world" and buy me instead.

JT the so "3rd" world women are the ones earning a livelihood for hteir families. their suffeings ar edue to those drunk husbands and they wud be very gald if you buy those drunks a drink now and then.

come down the pub and Ill buy you a pint or two, down the end of st dunsten by the east gate witherspoons.

Ahem Thanx.I dont drink alcohol. Just serve these drunk men and take them off our back.

So sorry I spend most of my time with drunk women, I hang about and chat them up.