I'm glad you understand finally
One of the Major organizers for the "women's march" is a big supporter of Sharia Law ?
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Posted by DivaCanLeoExactly... Madonna was the puppet, not the masterPosted by MoonbutterNobody knows who this Linda lady is.Posted by cvurkoTrue, but it's the message and impact sent all over the world watching this. What does it say when 1,000s of women all over follow a well- known supporter of Sharia Law? What do you think the real oppressed women of Sharia Law are thinking?
I gotta point out that the ideology of 1-10 people leading a march or some kind of organized manifestation does not mean that the ideology of the majority is the same. People gathered with the idea to defend women's rights, thats all.
I thought everyone was following Madonnaclick to expand
Posted by cvurkoActually, no. Active and gathering in itself does nothing except make the actors and gatherers "feel" like they're accomplishing something. The value of what they're doing is only measured by what they actually DO achieve, amd that value is not relative.Posted by sultrykittyPosted by cvurkoI don't think anyone's denying that, but a) it wasn't organic, and b) do they like being used as pawns?
I gotta point out that the ideology of 1-10 people leading a march or some kind of organized manifestation does not mean that the ideology of the majority is the same. People gathered with the idea to defend women's rights, thats all.
Didnt read the whole thread, sorry.
The masses will always be used as pawns. There will always be someone organizing them and its natural that people dont know the full information. Nothing strange or pitty about that. Just what it is. What's important is that people are active and gathering. There are countries in which the population is angry but so demotivated and repressed that nobody is ready to go out and express his views. Appreciate that.click to expand
Diva are you for Sharia Law?
Seems like you're defending it.
It's nothing against muslims, it's the outdated sexist teachings that need to go away forever. It doesn't help when someone publicly trys to spread it here.
Do you think Muslim women actually want to be covered? No. But they do out of fear of Consequences and brainwash. Like any religion. But that's a different story.
Seems like you're defending it.
It's nothing against muslims, it's the outdated sexist teachings that need to go away forever. It doesn't help when someone publicly trys to spread it here.
Do you think Muslim women actually want to be covered? No. But they do out of fear of Consequences and brainwash. Like any religion. But that's a different story.
Posted by cvurkoDefending what? If it were truly for all women's rights then what about all the atrocities in other Countries against women like honor killings, genital mutilation, acid attacks...?Posted by MoonbutterAdequate people would see 1,000 defending women's rights, not 1,000 soldiers of one confused lady. I am not American and that is how i see it.Posted by cvurkoTrue, but it's the message and impact sent all over the world watching this. What does it say when 1,000s of women all over follow a well- known supporter of Sharia Law? What do you think the real oppressed women of Sharia Law are thinking?
I gotta point out that the ideology of 1-10 people leading a march or some kind of organized manifestation does not mean that the ideology of the majority is the same. People gathered with the idea to defend women's rights, thats all.its true it can be better, but its also true it can br worse, so dont put so much hype on it is what im trying to say
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Posted by DivaCanLeoIt's not thoughPosted by MoonbutterEverything isn't a conspiracy theory and I was jokingPosted by DivaCanLeoExactly... Madonna was the puppet, not the masterPosted by MoonbutterNobody knows who this Linda lady is.Posted by cvurkoTrue, but it's the message and impact sent all over the world watching this. What does it say when 1,000s of women all over follow a well- known supporter of Sharia Law? What do you think the real oppressed women of Sharia Law are thinking?
I gotta point out that the ideology of 1-10 people leading a march or some kind of organized manifestation does not mean that the ideology of the majority is the same. People gathered with the idea to defend women's rights, thats all.
I thought everyone was following Madonna
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Posted by DivaCanLeoWhat does what you just said have to do with the women's March?Posted by MoonbutterWhat does that have to do with american policies? Except that the american government works and actually gives power to these societies like Saudis ArabiaPosted by cvurkoDefending what? If it were truly for all women's rights then what about all the atrocities in other Countries against women like honor killings, genital mutilation, acid attacks...?Posted by MoonbutterAdequate people would see 1,000 defending women's rights, not 1,000 soldiers of one confused lady. I am not American and that is how i see it.Posted by cvurkoTrue, but it's the message and impact sent all over the world watching this. What does it say when 1,000s of women all over follow a well- known supporter of Sharia Law? What do you think the real oppressed women of Sharia Law are thinking?
I gotta point out that the ideology of 1-10 people leading a march or some kind of organized manifestation does not mean that the ideology of the majority is the same. People gathered with the idea to defend women's rights, thats all.
Maybe you should go ask trump why he hasn't banned that country. They do honor killings there. All the timeclick to expand
Posted by cvurkoOh, I'm objective, but on the other hand, I'm not relativistic either. There does come into play the law of diminishing returns, and one has to be objective and discriminating enough to recognize when you're there.Posted by sultrykittyActive and gathering is the essential precondition of actually achieving something material. In itself, ativity and gathering has a moral and advertising effect that should not be neglected. Exemples of manifrstations achieving enormous and historic changes are all over your history books, dont need to cite them.Posted by cvurkoActually, no. Active and gathering in itself does nothing except make the actors and gatherers "feel" like they're accomplishing something. The value of what they're doing is only measuted by what they actually DO achieve, amd that value is not relative.Posted by sultrykittyPosted by cvurkoI don't think anyone's denying that, but a) it wasn't organic, and b) do they like being used as pawns?
I gotta point out that the ideology of 1-10 people leading a march or some kind of organized manifestation does not mean that the ideology of the majority is the same. People gathered with the idea to defend women's rights, thats all.
Didnt read the whole thread, sorry.
The masses will always be used as pawns. There will always be someone organizing them and its natural that people dont know the full information. Nothing strange or pitty about that. Just what it is. What's important is that people are active and gathering. There are countries in which the population is angry but so demotivated and repressed that nobody is ready to go out and express his views. Appreciate that.
People tend to devalue events ans occurences in their effort to interpet things from their own subjective perspective. If something isnt perfect, most people would say that it shouldn't exist at all. It is important to make things better, to strive for perfection -thats human nature, but these days i think its even more important to appreciate what has been achieved. See the glass half full. Be more objective, thats all ^^ Nothing is black and white, most of the things are grayclick to expand
Posted by DickButtCite your source please.
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Women are allowed to vote…in fact Islamic countries have had more women leaders than any other country or associative religion. Pakistan had Bhutto, Indonesia has Sukarnoputri, Turkey had Ciller, Senegal had Boye, Egypt had Ateya, and many more. Women are allowed to vote as women are allowed to drive. Don’t believe everything that faux news tells you. Saudi and the UAE as stated above are wahabbi based extremists so they don’t allow women to have the rights they are promised within Islam. Women can walk alone, but again extremism does not equate to what Sharia or Islam in general is. In islam we see women as a bit more important than men. They are held higher standards. We who are not in oppressive extremist regimes who learn the Qu’ran and everything in between are taught to protect, honor, and cherish women with the utmost respect. Basically gold standard.
I know i have written a lot, and i’m sure many of you won’t read through everything. But Sharia isn’t what you have heard, or make it out to be. It’s many different elements of life, but in the end it is supposed to be merciful at it’s core, and is meant for diverse communities not just muslim ones. In fact before i stop typing, muslims cannot hold non-muslims to sharia law. So trust me, we are not gonna try to force it on you. We are prohibited to do so.
Posted by DivaCanLeo?
All I want to know is if I'm ever Fukin the Leo and scream Allah Akbar will he choke me to death or laugh
Posted by VageenkaIt was slacktivism brought to life. All this shit was was an opportunity to post something new on their social media.Posted by MoonbutterPosted by VageenkaThe women's March was ridiculous. Idiot women wearing stupid hats for what?
I'm just going to leave this here.
Beautiful girl exposing the women's march.
It just goes to show you the impact that social media has...
No one bothered to educate themselves on the women's march but just went along with it because of what they heard or because they wanted to riot.
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So people are so dense, they don't mind being puppets?
For all they know a kkk member could've started the march just because they needed fuel for their secret agendas... but who cares right?
Anti Trump? Fukit let's gooo...
And accomplish nothing... cause he's in office and still alive. Meanwhile they've helped some commies/radical muslims and they had no idea..
They are sitting there just laughing
"They really fell for it! LOL those dumbass Americans"
For all they know a kkk member could've started the march just because they needed fuel for their secret agendas... but who cares right?
Anti Trump? Fukit let's gooo...
And accomplish nothing... cause he's in office and still alive. Meanwhile they've helped some commies/radical muslims and they had no idea..
They are sitting there just laughing
"They really fell for it! LOL those dumbass Americans"
Posted by sultrykittyRemember, CC believes in being in debt up the ass to support a life style one cannot afford. It's no wonder she switched the debt as income.Posted by DivaCanLeoAnd 20 Trillions in debt already.Posted by sultrykittyYou're joking right. We can as Americans afford 10 wks of maternal care if we wanted too. We're trillions dollar economy.Posted by HarleyTwinFlameThe ONLY reason they can afford to pay 10 wks of maternity leave is the oil. And because the oil prices have dropped so low, the government is starting to pull back entitlements. Most of the Saudis actually get paid by the government from oil sales, and they don't have to work. They use slave labor from 3rd world to do all that.
Tweets from yours truly, woman's March organizer and pro Sharia Law, Linda Sarsours.
Notice how she tries to manipulate the mentally retarded. Straight Evil!
Prime
How about interest free loans? In exchange for your woman rights? Win win. But Cmon... its interst free loans..
She has an issue with anti Sharia lady and a woman who got her clit chopped off and now opposes sharia law.
As far as usery is concerned, Sharia compliant loans are a joke from what I've heard. Not to mention completely unsustainable on a large scale without subsidies.
Jfc
But. Donald Trump does want to make paid maternity leave mandatory, and to extend that to fathers as well.
Also a program to make possible workplace childcare, and tax deductions for elder care.
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Posted by sultrykittyI can only answer the last bit. Muslims aren't allowed to proselytise, same as Catholics and followers of Judaism.Posted by DickButtCite your source please.
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Women are allowed to vote…in fact Islamic countries have had more women leaders than any other country or associative religion. Pakistan had Bhutto, Indonesia has Sukarnoputri, Turkey had Ciller, Senegal had Boye, Egypt had Ateya, and many more. Women are allowed to vote as women are allowed to drive. Don’t believe everything that faux news tells you. Saudi and the UAE as stated above are wahabbi based extremists so they don’t allow women to have the rights they are promised within Islam. Women can walk alone, but again extremism does not equate to what Sharia or Islam in general is. In islam we see women as a bit more important than men. They are held higher standards. We who are not in oppressive extremist regimes who learn the Qu’ran and everything in between are taught to protect, honor, and cherish women with the utmost respect. Basically gold standard.
I know i have written a lot, and i’m sure many of you won’t read through everything. But Sharia isn’t what you have heard, or make it out to be. It’s many different elements of life, but in the end it is supposed to be merciful at it’s core, and is meant for diverse communities not just muslim ones. In fact before i stop typing, muslims cannot hold non-muslims to sharia law. So trust me, we are not gonna try to force it on you. We are prohibited to do so.
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The only ones who would try are the extremists.
Like @rockyroadicecream mentioned before - people of the wahabbi sect are not much different from the Westboro Baptist Christians.
Not sure why people think anything is being forced on them.
Or maybe the concepts of compromise and respect for a person's way of life and religion is an alien concept to a lot of Americans, hence all the worst case scenario assumptions.
Posted by DivaCanLeoLol this made me laugh
All I want to know is if I'm ever Fukin the Leo and scream Allah Akbar will he choke me to death or laugh
Too much seriousness in here
Posted by Ram416True, and yet I dated a modern Muslim who was fine at first and then he gradually became more controlling and wanted me in a burka.Posted by sultrykittyI can only answer the last bit. Muslims aren't allowed to proselytise, same as Catholics and followers of Judaism.Posted by DickButtCite your source please.
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Women are allowed to vote…in fact Islamic countries have had more women leaders than any other country or associative religion. Pakistan had Bhutto, Indonesia has Sukarnoputri, Turkey had Ciller, Senegal had Boye, Egypt had Ateya, and many more. Women are allowed to vote as women are allowed to drive. Don’t believe everything that faux news tells you. Saudi and the UAE as stated above are wahabbi based extremists so they don’t allow women to have the rights they are promised within Islam. Women can walk alone, but again extremism does not equate to what Sharia or Islam in general is. In islam we see women as a bit more important than men. They are held higher standards. We who are not in oppressive extremist regimes who learn the Qu’ran and everything in between are taught to protect, honor, and cherish women with the utmost respect. Basically gold standard.
I know i have written a lot, and i’m sure many of you won’t read through everything. But Sharia isn’t what you have heard, or make it out to be. It’s many different elements of life, but in the end it is supposed to be merciful at it’s core, and is meant for diverse communities not just muslim ones. In fact before i stop typing, muslims cannot hold non-muslims to sharia law. So trust me, we are not gonna try to force it on you. We are prohibited to do so.
The only ones who would try are the extremists.
Like @rockyroadicecream mentioned before - people of the wahabbi sect are not much different from the Westboro Baptist Christians.
Not sure why people think anything is being forced on them.
Or maybe the concepts of compromise and respect for a person's way of life and religion is an alien concept to a lot of Americans, hence all the worst case scenario assumptions.click to expand
Posted by HarleyTwinFlame...Mimicks that of Germany about 75 years ago, dontcha think?
So people are so dense, they don't mind being puppets?
For all they know a kkk member could've started the march just because they needed fuel for their secret agendas... but who cares right?
Anti Trump? Fukit let's gooo...
And accomplish nothing... cause he's in office and still alive. Meanwhile they've helped some commies/radical muslims and they had no idea..
They are sitting there just laughing
"They really fell for it! LOL those dumbass Americans"
CC is proving to be a wonderful example of the OP's point, as well as being the target demographic that's being brainwashed.
"It doesn't fit my own little world view, therefore it's false."
Fuck off with that.
I can't believe the insane amounts of ignorance and intolerance in this thread.
People claiming to know a religious law better than the ones who live it.
People talking about a religion taking away women's rights in a secular country...meanwhile it's a non Muslim who is doing that to you right now.
Jfc.
But what did I expect from a cesspool like dxp?
People claiming to know a religious law better than the ones who live it.
People talking about a religion taking away women's rights in a secular country...meanwhile it's a non Muslim who is doing that to you right now.
Jfc.
But what did I expect from a cesspool like dxp?
There are teachings of Islam that are outdated and sexist.
Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand (above).
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing Muhammad or denying that he is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah, the god of Islam is punishable by death.
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (Muhammad's words, Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A woman can have 1 husband, who can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife; a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A divorced wife loses custody of all children over 6 years of age or when they exceed it.
• Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
• A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed in property cases, carries ½ the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to eat must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be "Halal".
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.
Is this lies
Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand (above).
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing Muhammad or denying that he is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah, the god of Islam is punishable by death.
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (Muhammad's words, Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A woman can have 1 husband, who can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife; a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A divorced wife loses custody of all children over 6 years of age or when they exceed it.
• Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
• A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed in property cases, carries ½ the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to eat must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be "Halal".
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.
Is this lies
Posted by VivaciousScorpioI'll give you that.Posted by HarleyTwinFlamePoverty and lack of education are huge factors.
I'm not against Muslims, but I'm sure theres people who are privileged enough to live outside of the middle east and be a more modern relaxed Muslim, that see how outdated the religion is and how women are reduced to almost nothing..
Why can't they move forward!!! They didn't all used to be this way
The guys at the top don't believe this shit. Most people who have an education don't either.
Compare them to the redneck creationists who want evolution out of the school curriculum. Heck, plenty of them in America.
Both are dumb, both are loud with their opinions.click to expand
I can't change the world.. I wish I could though.
Too much fighting when people should take out the bad apples or at least educate them instead of creating social divide.
Rednecks Christians fuel the KKK
I'm sure radicals islam fuel Isis
Trump is like a loose cannon I can't trust him. Never known what he'll do next and he is making everything worse..
Anyways I hate Linda Sarsour. My original reason for posting here
Just LOL to women claiming Sharia law reduces women and their worth. It's not like the western free values give a woman any respect. You are actually worse off than you are in Sharia.
What sharia law is and how it's practiced/abused are two different things. Sharia law actually aims to fulfill a woman's desire/nature for a stable home, stable partner and provider for children.
Where are you with your western freedom? Probably some dude's side chick or FWB. Whatever it is, it's most likely you with the short end of the stick.
What sharia law is and how it's practiced/abused are two different things. Sharia law actually aims to fulfill a woman's desire/nature for a stable home, stable partner and provider for children.
Where are you with your western freedom? Probably some dude's side chick or FWB. Whatever it is, it's most likely you with the short end of the stick.
Posted by HarleyTwinFlameEverything you listed here is taken out of context and we all know what happens when you take something out of a context.
There are teachings of Islam that are outdated and sexist.
Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand (above).
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing Muhammad or denying that he is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah, the god of Islam is punishable by death.
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (Muhammad's words, Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A woman can have 1 husband, who can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife; a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A divorced wife loses custody of all children over 6 years of age or when they exceed it.
• Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
• A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed in property cases, carries ½ the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to eat must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be "Halal".
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.
Is this lies
A woman not driving a car or clitoridectomy is not Sharia law. It's extremism promoted by Saudi shit Arabia. Saudi Arabia and its doctrines are the furthest thing from Islam, and its sad that to the world they are the true representation of Islam.
Get your facts straight.
Posted by aquarius09It's out of context, but didn't come from thin air.Posted by HarleyTwinFlameEverything you listed here is taken out of context and we all know what happens when you take something out of a context.
There are teachings of Islam that are outdated and sexist.
Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand (above).
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing Muhammad or denying that he is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah, the god of Islam is punishable by death.
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (Muhammad's words, Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A woman can have 1 husband, who can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife; a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A divorced wife loses custody of all children over 6 years of age or when they exceed it.
• Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
• A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed in property cases, carries ½ the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to eat must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be "Halal".
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.
Is this lies
A woman not driving a car or clitoridectomy is not Sharia law. It's extremism promoted by Saudi shit Arabia. Saudi Arabia and its doctrines are the furthest thing from Islam, and its sad that to the world they are the true representation of Islam.
Get your facts straight.
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Saudi and their practices come from Islam just they choose to stay behind in the times.
The Christian bible had stoning, and promoted domestic violence like the Quran does.
So, it's not all made up.
By being taking out of context or roughly summarized it's fair to say muslims I live with in modern society don't kill people anymore or cut their hands. Whatever law there is, is still frowned upon.
My issue is whoever is acting those ways, needs to stop. Period. I don't care if it's one village in a tiny country no one cares about. It's wrong. It's happening and they do it in the name of their church.
I wont judge everyone, but I never did believe this is every Muslim anyways so...
Also can anyone tell me why women need to be covered up, I'm curious about this. I know it was also in the Christian bible, but I think even the christian Cults stopped wearing head coverings
Serious question.
Posted by HareYou're conflating how an individual practices their faith vs what their religion actually teaches.
Some of you need to go visit a mosque and actually ENGAGE the people there. Ask genuine questions. Most would be happy to talk about their faith.
You might learn something.
Would you go to a Protestant church to learn what the Bishop really means at the Benediction?
If a Muslim has peace in their heart and lives that, and truly believes "to you your religion and to me mine", no problem.
What IS the problem is that those Muslims are irrelevant in the face of those who think otherwise.
Posted by DickButtI blame the fact he was Muslim. Sorry, but you kinda sound like him. He said the exact same things and some kind of switch in him was flipped. Alone he was fine, but then his older brother started getting into his head so you find me a Muslim without the Islamic community behind them. Otherwise you won't chang my mind of what I know.Posted by MoonbutterDon't blame the gun that shot the man, blame the person behind it.Posted by Ram416True, and yet I dated a modern Muslim who was fine at first and then he gradually became more controlling and wanted me in a burka.Posted by sultrykittyI can only answer the last bit. Muslims aren't allowed to proselytise, same as Catholics and followers of Judaism.Posted by DickButtCite your source please.
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Women are allowed to vote…in fact Islamic countries have had more women leaders than any other country or associative religion. Pakistan had Bhutto, Indonesia has Sukarnoputri, Turkey had Ciller, Senegal had Boye, Egypt had Ateya, and many more. Women are allowed to vote as women are allowed to drive. Don’t believe everything that faux news tells you. Saudi and the UAE as stated above are wahabbi based extremists so they don’t allow women to have the rights they are promised within Islam. Women can walk alone, but again extremism does not equate to what Sharia or Islam in general is. In islam we see women as a bit more important than men. They are held higher standards. We who are not in oppressive extremist regimes who learn the Qu’ran and everything in between are taught to protect, honor, and cherish women with the utmost respect. Basically gold standard.
I know i have written a lot, and i’m sure many of you won’t read through everything. But Sharia isn’t what you have heard, or make it out to be. It’s many different elements of life, but in the end it is supposed to be merciful at it’s core, and is meant for diverse communities not just muslim ones. In fact before i stop typing, muslims cannot hold non-muslims to sharia law. So trust me, we are not gonna try to force it on you. We are prohibited to do so.
The only ones who would try are the extremists.
Like @rockyroadicecream mentioned before - people of the wahabbi sect are not much different from the Westboro Baptist Christians.
Not sure why people think anything is being forced on them.
Or maybe the concepts of compromise and respect for a person's way of life and religion is an alien concept to a lot of Americans, hence all the worst case scenario assumptions.click to expand
Posted by VivaciousScorpioBecause we don't want Sharia Law in the states?
I like that you racists out yourself on dxp so easily now.
Posted by Ram416Well if you experienced it first hand you wouldn't have to claim ignorance and you also wouldn't tolerate it.
I can't believe the insane amounts of ignorance and intolerance in this thread.
People claiming to know a religious law better than the ones who live it.
People talking about a religion taking away women's rights in a secular country...meanwhile it's a non Muslim who is doing that to you right now.
Jfc.
But what did I expect from a cesspool like dxp?
Posted by aquarius09Yup, it is for their protection but not needed or wanted here... at least not yet.
Just LOL to women claiming Sharia law reduces women and their worth. It's not like the western free values give a woman any respect. You are actually worse off than you are in Sharia.
What sharia law is and how it's practiced/abused are two different things. Sharia law actually aims to fulfill a woman's desire/nature for a stable home, stable partner and provider for children.
Where are you with your western freedom? Probably some dude's side chick or FWB. Whatever it is, it's most likely you with the short end of the stick.
Posted by HareYup I've been to Mosque, had a Muslim teach me everything about Islam the views, what and why they practice... I've been around the Muslim community and all I can say after all that is fundamentally there are beliefs and customs muslims have that are in vast contrast to any other Religion. I don't care what anyone says, my eyes and ears are wide open to the truth.
You're conflating how an individual practices their faith vs what their religion actually teaches.
Would you go to a mosque to learn what the Imam really means at morning prayers?
If a Christian has peace in their heart and lives that, and truly believes "to you your religion and to me mine", no problem.
What IS the problem is that those Christians are irrelevant in the face of those who think otherwise.
Posted by PootyButtI know that, moron, and we need to remain vigilant to keep it that way.Posted by MoonbutterThere is never going to be Sharia fucking Law in the states. There are fake news organizations promulgating this fear in America for idiots like you to believe, hook, line, and sinker.Posted by VivaciousScorpioBecause we don't want Sharia Law in the states?
I like that you racists out yourself on dxp so easily now.
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Posted by julietteThat's what the Muslim community want... ask them and see what they say.Posted by MoonbutterPosted by VivaciousScorpioBecause we don't want Sharia Law in the states?
I like that you racists out yourself on dxp so easily now.
wtf is this, why would sharia law be in the states—
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Posted by PootyButtI like how quick you are to claim racism just because I'm taking a stand on what I believe. I'm not saying Muslims are bad I'm saying we should all assimilate into a functioning society.Posted by MoonbutterPosted by PootyButtI know that, moron, and we need to remain vigilant to keep it that way.Posted by MoonbutterThere is never going to be Sharia fucking Law in the states. There are fake news organizations promulgating this fear in America for idiots like you to believe, hook, line, and sinker.Posted by VivaciousScorpioBecause we don't want Sharia Law in the states?
I like that you racists out yourself on dxp so easily now.
http://www.snopes.com/tag/sharia-law/
No, we don't. We need to remain vigilant against racist white jackasses who want to change the fundamental vision of America as a land of immigrants, opportunity, and religious freedom.
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Posted by julietteI've heard Muslims speak on it. Js.Posted by MoonbutterPosted by julietteThat's what the Muslim community want... ask them and see what they say.Posted by MoonbutterPosted by VivaciousScorpioBecause we don't want Sharia Law in the states?
I like that you racists out yourself on dxp so easily now.
wtf is this, why would sharia law be in the states—
oh you mean about the prophecy? that one day all countries will be muslism? yeah heard about that one.
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Posted by HareAbsolutely, and I referenced two "sects" for exactly that reason.Posted by sultrykittyThe same logic can be applied to Christians, then.Posted by HareYou're conflating how an individual practices their faith vs what their religion actually teaches.
Some of you need to go visit a mosque and actually ENGAGE the people there. Ask genuine questions. Most would be happy to talk about their faith.
You might learn something.
Would you go to a Protestant church to learn what the Bishop really means at the Benediction?
If a Muslim has peace in their heart and lives that, and truly believes "to you your religion and to me mine", no problem.
What IS the problem is that those Muslims are irrelevant in the face of those who think otherwise.
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But the numbers don't lie. How many people would you say belong to the Westboro Baptist Church and other known Christian terrorist groups, and how many to groups like Hamas and Hezbollah? I think you know that the power of those groups far outweighs the power of those in the WBC.
Posted by HareHardly. Because your statement isn't supported by the numbers.
You're conflating how an individual practices their faith vs what their religion actually teaches.
Would you go to a mosque to learn what the Imam really means at morning prayers?
If a Christian has peace in their heart and lives that, and truly believes "to you your religion and to me mine", no problem.
What IS the problem is that those Christians are irrelevant in the face of those who think otherwise.
Posted by julietteShaking shit up around here ?
@pootybutt you were so nice until now
I haven't read the other pages but I don't get how the fact that one major supporter of the Women's March practices Shari'a Law somehow delegitimizes the March itself...which was actually international and included several religions, races, countries, etc. Lol, so does the fact that you had Pro Abortion and Pro Life groups marching together delegitimize it as well?
What I find hilarious is with as much gnashing of the teeth that takes place on this site over women wanting to have their basic human rights and freedoms respected, to then call into question a march whose sole purpose is to fight for those rights and freedoms over religion is just pure non sense.
What's ironic is that given the way Christianity has been practiced in this country(America) it ain't that different from Shari'a Law. What's equally dishonest is the implication that rights and freedoms are lost because a certain religion is practiced. Hello? One still has the right to practice that religion for one, and two they still have the right to be treated as a human being...by other people.
What I find hilarious is with as much gnashing of the teeth that takes place on this site over women wanting to have their basic human rights and freedoms respected, to then call into question a march whose sole purpose is to fight for those rights and freedoms over religion is just pure non sense.
What's ironic is that given the way Christianity has been practiced in this country(America) it ain't that different from Shari'a Law. What's equally dishonest is the implication that rights and freedoms are lost because a certain religion is practiced. Hello? One still has the right to practice that religion for one, and two they still have the right to be treated as a human being...by other people.
Posted by MoonbutterIt sounds like to me that you know NOTHING about sharia law. And bring by the number of likes you got, others do not either.
So basically all the women got duped into marching under a woman who believes that women have no rights( less rights then men) smh. I knew that March was bogus. Which poses the question what was Linda Sarsour trying to accomplish with this March?
I marched against WAR, environmental degradation, corporate greed, animal exploitation... and NO ONE will convince me that it was for nothing. #WeThePeopleWillNotBeSilenced
Posted by beautifulsoul74You speak with reason.
I haven't read the other pages but I don't get how the fact that one major supporter of the Women's March practices Shari'a Law somehow delegitimizes the March itself...which was actually international and included several religions, races, countries, etc. Lol, so does the fact that you had Pro Abortion and Pro Life groups marching together delegitimize it as well?
What I find hilarious is with as much gnashing of the teeth that takes place on this site over women wanting to have their basic human rights and freedoms respected, to then call into question a march whose sole purpose is to fight for those rights and freedoms over religion is just pure non sense.
What's ironic is that given the way Christianity has been practiced in this country(America) it ain't that different from Shari'a Law. What's equally dishonest is the implication that rights and freedoms are lost because a certain religion is practiced. Hello? One still has the right to practice that religion for one, and two they still have the right to be treated as a human being...by other people.
Posted by HarleyTwinFlameI remember that.
I said this about 10 days ago
"Sharia Law, It's not unreasonable once you learn the details.. according to Linda Sarsours."
She's a nutcase... the Muslim women in some countries get stoned for being raped! In this day and age!!
"1 woman = 1/2 a man"
It's not okay over there, not okay for women any fucking where!!!
Hello?? Where are the people advocating for justice for Muslim women under Sharia Law?
Quiet huh...
Christians used to do some of this Sharia Law beliefs.. but GD... move on with the times man.. like every other religion has were not in the freaking dark ages.. and places like Iran should know better since it seems they've changed drastically after the Muslim conversion
Don't sell your daughters like property
Don't cut off womens clit
No sewing up vaginas
No death penalty for rape Victims
Let women vote
Let women drive
Let women walk alone
1 woman = 1 man damnit.
The hijab and all that that's cool I have no issue with that but...
Let woman have equal rights.
Yes..
But neo feminists tumblrinas who make real feminist look bad, please be smart enough to now who you are working with..
Classic wolf in sheep's clothing.
#saveourclits
Interestingly, the devout call her a fake.
Either way, she's suspect to me because you
cannot serve both sides-- and when people
attempt to do that, its usually themselves they
are trying to serve.
Posted by sagsagsagIt's frightening how people mistake lies for truth and speak the lies with such confidence. People need to EDUCATE themselves and stop eating up the horse crap being shoved down their throats by the media and ignorant in their personal lives.Posted by HarleyTwinFlame
I said this about 10 days ago
"Sharia Law, It's not unreasonable once you learn the details.. according to Linda Sarsours."
She's a nutcase... the Muslim women in some countries get stoned for being raped! In this day and age!!
"1 woman = 1/2 a man"
It's not okay over there, not okay for women any fucking where!!!
Hello?? Where are the people advocating for justice for Muslim women under Sharia Law?
Quiet huh...
Christians used to do some of this Sharia Law beliefs.. but GD... move on with the times man.. like every other religion has were not in the freaking dark ages.. and places like Iran should know better since it seems they've changed drastically after the Muslim conversion
Don't sell your daughters like property
Don't cut off womens clit
No sewing up vaginas
No death penalty for rape Victims
Let women vote
Let women drive
Let women walk alone
1 woman = 1 man damnit.
The hijab and all that that's cool I have no issue with that but...
Let woman have equal rights.
Yes..
But neo feminists tumblrinas who make real feminist look bad, please be smart enough to now who you are working with..
Classic wolf in sheep's clothing.
#saveourclits
You wanna know what's funny? I'm a Moslem in Indonesia and not once have i ever heard of Sharia law implemented here EXCEPT in Aceh where they have there own government lol... And it's a very small part of Indonesia..
Iran practices Shia not Sunni..
And these:
Don't sell your daughters like property
Don't cut off womens clit
No sewing up vaginas
No death penalty for rape Victims
Let women vote
Let women drive
Let women walk alone
1 woman = 1 man damnit.
Is a non issue in Indonesia. One of the biggest Muslim population. I vote, I drive, I walk alone, I didnt get my clit mutilated and I'm not sold for property.
And for #savetheclit movement.. would you be surprise to know that in Islam, as a women, you're not supposed to have your clit mutilated? And in my country, no hospital or clinic would ever want to perform this on a baby girl... The practice starts from Africa somewhere I read, and they are not a Muslim populated country..
Who needs fixing? Arabs and their laws. Not the Islam laws. Only there you'd find people getting their hands mutilated for stealing, death penalty for murder and rape victim getting stoned to death..
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Posted by DivaCanLeoYeah, of course not. People love flaunting their body.Posted by aquarius09Ain't nobody going to put a hijab on baby.
Just LOL to women claiming Sharia law reduces women and their worth. It's not like the western free values give a woman any respect. You are actually worse off than you are in Sharia.
What sharia law is and how it's practiced/abused are two different things. Sharia law actually aims to fulfill a woman's desire/nature for a stable home, stable partner and provider for children.
Where are you with your western freedom? Probably some dude's side chick or FWB. Whatever it is, it's most likely you with the short end of the stick.click to expand
Posted by LillyPetalThanks and I try to. Its just common sense.Posted by beautifulsoul74You speak with reason.
I haven't read the other pages but I don't get how the fact that one major supporter of the Women's March practices Shari'a Law somehow delegitimizes the March itself...which was actually international and included several religions, races, countries, etc. Lol, so does the fact that you had Pro Abortion and Pro Life groups marching together delegitimize it as well?
What I find hilarious is with as much gnashing of the teeth that takes place on this site over women wanting to have their basic human rights and freedoms respected, to then call into question a march whose sole purpose is to fight for those rights and freedoms over religion is just pure non sense.
What's ironic is that given the way Christianity has been practiced in this country(America) it ain't that different from Shari'a Law. What's equally dishonest is the implication that rights and freedoms are lost because a certain religion is practiced. Hello? One still has the right to practice that religion for one, and two they still have the right to be treated as a human being...by other people.
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Posted by DivaCanLeoIslam never promoted bed covers. Islam promoted "modesty" in the Quran. How Arabs took it was their cultural attire. There are plenty of Muslim countries like Pakistan, Brunei, Malaysia, Indonesia that wear something else to showcase modesty.Posted by aquarius09whats wrong with that, our bodies were made to be flaunted not hidden under bed covers.Posted by DivaCanLeoYeah, of course not. People love flaunting their body.Posted by aquarius09Ain't nobody going to put a hijab on baby.
Just LOL to women claiming Sharia law reduces women and their worth. It's not like the western free values give a woman any respect. You are actually worse off than you are in Sharia.
What sharia law is and how it's practiced/abused are two different things. Sharia law actually aims to fulfill a woman's desire/nature for a stable home, stable partner and provider for children.
Where are you with your western freedom? Probably some dude's side chick or FWB. Whatever it is, it's most likely you with the short end of the stick.
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who told you that our bodies were meant to be flaunted? Men or your need to get laid?
Posted by DivaCanLeoFurious about what exactly?
Oh shit the ignorance in this thread is mind boggling.
Like 95% of the women who protested even know who Linda whatever her name is.
Most of those marches were expected to have less then 10k, they broke the record in every city.
Ppl are furious
Posted by beautifulsoul74
I haven't read the other pages but I don't get how the fact that one major supporter of the Women's March practices Shari'a Law somehow delegitimizes the March itself...which was actually international and included several religions, races, countries, etc. Lol, so does the fact that you had Pro Abortion and Pro Life groups marching together delegitimize it as well?
What I find hilarious is with as much gnashing of the teeth that takes place on this site over women wanting to have their basic human rights and freedoms respected, to then call into question a march whose sole purpose is to fight for those rights and freedoms over religion is just pure non sense.
What's ironic is that given the way Christianity has been practiced in this country(America) it ain't that different from Shari'a Law. What's equally dishonest is the implication that rights and freedoms are lost because a certain religion is practiced. Hello? One still has the right to practice that religion for one, and two they still have the right to be treated as a human being...by other people.
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Thanks for a little bit of reasoning.
Posted by MoonbutterPosted by cvurkoDefending what? If it were truly for all women's rights then what about all the atrocities in other Countries against women like honor killings, genital mutilation, acid attacks...?Posted by MoonbutterAdequate people would see 1,000 defending women's rights, not 1,000 soldiers of one confused lady. I am not American and that is how i see it.Posted by cvurkoTrue, but it's the message and impact sent all over the world watching this. What does it say when 1,000s of women all over follow a well- known supporter of Sharia Law? What do you think the real oppressed women of Sharia Law are thinking?
I gotta point out that the ideology of 1-10 people leading a march or some kind of organized manifestation does not mean that the ideology of the majority is the same. People gathered with the idea to defend women's rights, thats all.click to expand
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Defending the rights of women because the actual president of the major power is a sexist asshole whose behaviour is supported by a majority. Do you need more reasons?
Can't I demonstrate because there are ppl in a worse situation? Then no one can do it.
Women in all countries are being opressed because we live in patriarchy. Is simple.
Is not religion, religion is a tool, a reflection of culture's values. Obliging women to show their bodies is not better than obliging them to hide it. We need to supress roles and learn true equality.
Seriously, if you read some feminist books/articles with open mindness you'll be surprised about all things you see as normal but actualy are sexist.
Posted by Moonbutterwow irony.
So basically all the women got duped into marching under a woman who believes that women have no rights( less rights then men) smh. I knew that March was bogus. Which poses the question what was Linda Sarsour trying to accomplish with this March?
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