Broke up with Scorpio woman, hurts like hell (Virgo man) -> want her back!
This topic was created in the Relationships & Astrology forum by lizardking82 on Tuesday, November 22, 2016 and has 38 replies.
I was in a relationship with a Scorpio girl, absolutely the best relationship I have ever had and the best one she has ever had, we were 100% in love, 100% there and dedicated. However, she is very young, just 19 now, and lately, during the second year, we started having some friction about her relationship with her parents. I did not believe in astrology and it seemed kinda bullshit to me at the time, but when I read her birth chart about a couple of weeks ago, I was wishing I had read it much earlier... 
I was pressuring her sometimes and was insisting she fix her relationship with her father because it was such a fucked up one, she never told him a lot of things, her father didn't know about us, he didn't know about a trip we did last year and so on. She had gone into a state of mind (or had always been) where she was lying even when she didn't need to do it and that pissed me off. I insisted a couple of times about it and I do not think or feel it bothered her so much since there were no signs of that. Yes, we had a couple of "fights", but nothing that was not fixed right away and we turned back to our loving, sweet selves.
Around October, we had an unexpected, bigger than usual fight while we were having a drink with another couple who are both friends of ours and we know since a good time now. I yelled at her, I shouldn't have. I genuinely said sorry afterwards, but in the end, I am human and I lose it sometimes, too. However, that night, she said she doesn't feel ready to go through the changes I expect her to and she said she needed some space. That just hit me right in the heart because she had never ever before even talked, not even once, about breaking up. And there she stood, asking me for space which practically means the same thing as breaking up. She said she doesn't feel the same anymore even though two hours before she yelled at me that she loved me and was in my arms like always! That completely set me off, I got desperate, tried to change her mind that night, useless. A couple of days went by and I asked her to meet so we could discuss about the problem in person, it seemed outta this world that all this was happening through phone and Facebook!
We met, she insisted on the "I don't feel the same, I want to be alone right now" ideology, but in the end, we kissed and hugged and she started spoiling herself like nothing had happened! However, after that, we went on for about a week without contact at all and then I decided to go to her workplace (she is a model and was shooting a scene for a local company), but she did not know anything about it, it was a surprise I arranged with her boss who helped me a lot. When she saw me there, she almost lost it. She laughed at first, than she was like "you're crazy, you shouldn't be here", then I kissed her, but... this time she didn't respond like last time then when I hugged her, she was like almost completely cold and barely hugged me with one hand. I left, felt extremely down. Did some more chasing through the phone a couple of days after, but then stopped. I felt like there was nothing more I could do. This was around the beginning of November and I have not written to her ever since. However, the moment I stopped writing to her, she started liking my posts on Instagram and Facebook which seemed a bit strange to me. Then, about a week or so ago, we met in the streets casually and she just left her friends and kind of ran towards me and hugged me tight. This got me by surprise, especially since the last time, as I said, she was very cold. Her birthday was just a couple of days later and I thought it was OK to send her a very simple and formal "Happy birthday" message since the situation does not really suggest anything more than that.
A little insight in her birth chart: Sun is in Scorpio, Moon is in Taurus, Mercury is in Sagittarius, Venus is in Capricorn, Mars is also in Capricorn, Jupiter is in Aquarius, Saturn is in Aries, Uranus is in Aquarius, Neptune is in Capricorn, Pluto is in Sagittarius.
Any kind of insight would be super appreciated and I want to know what you guys think my chances of getting her back are. Throughout, we had a superb relationship, very good physical chemistry, almost everything was sweet, fights to a bare minimum.
I was pressuring her sometimes and was insisting she fix her relationship with her father because it was such a fucked up one, she never told him a lot of things, her father didn't know about us, he didn't know about a trip we did last year and so on. She had gone into a state of mind (or had always been) where she was lying even when she didn't need to do it and that pissed me off. I insisted a couple of times about it and I do not think or feel it bothered her so much since there were no signs of that. Yes, we had a couple of "fights", but nothing that was not fixed right away and we turned back to our loving, sweet selves. Around October, we had an unexpected, bigger than usual fight while we were having a drink with another couple who are both friends of ours and we know since a good time now. I yelled at her, I shouldn't have. I genuinely said sorry afterwards, but in the end, I am human and I lose it sometimes, too. However, that night, she said she doesn't feel ready to go through the changes I expect her to and she said she needed some space. That just hit me right in the heart because she had never ever before even talked, not even once, about breaking up. And there she stood, asking me for space which practically means the same thing as breaking up. She said she doesn't feel the same anymore even though two hours before she yelled at me that she loved me and was in my arms like always! That completely set me off, I got desperate, tried to change her mind that night, useless. A couple of days went by and I asked her to meet so we could discuss about the problem in person, it seemed outta this world that all this was happening through phone and Facebook!
We met, she insisted on the "I don't feel the same, I want to be alone right now" ideology, but in the end, we kissed and hugged and she started spoiling herself like nothing had happened! However, after that, we went on for about a week without contact at all and then I decided to go to her workplace (she is a model and was shooting a scene for a local company), but she did not know anything about it, it was a surprise I arranged with her boss who helped me a lot. When she saw me there, she almost lost it. She laughed at first, than she was like "you're crazy, you shouldn't be here", then I kissed her, but... this time she didn't respond like last time
then when I hugged her, she was like almost completely cold and barely hugged me with one hand. I left, felt extremely down. Did some more chasing through the phone a couple of days after, but then stopped. I felt like there was nothing more I could do. This was around the beginning of November and I have not written to her ever since. However, the moment I stopped writing to her, she started liking my posts on Instagram and Facebook which seemed a bit strange to me. Then, about a week or so ago, we met in the streets casually and she just left her friends and kind of ran towards me and hugged me tight. This got me by surprise, especially since the last time, as I said, she was very cold. Her birthday was just a couple of days later and I thought it was OK to send her a very simple and formal "Happy birthday" message since the situation does not really suggest anything more than that. A little insight in her birth chart: Sun is in Scorpio, Moon is in Taurus, Mercury is in Sagittarius, Venus is in Capricorn, Mars is also in Capricorn, Jupiter is in Aquarius, Saturn is in Aries, Uranus is in Aquarius, Neptune is in Capricorn, Pluto is in Sagittarius.
Any kind of insight would be super appreciated and I want to know what you guys think my chances of getting her back are. Throughout, we had a superb relationship, very good physical chemistry, almost everything was sweet, fights to a bare minimum.
Posted by -elle-Sun - Virgo
what about your chart?
Moon - Aries
Mercury - Virgo
Venus - Leo
Mars - Libra
Jupiter - Libra
Saturn - Aquarius
Uranus - Capricorn
Neptune - Capricorn
Pluto - Scorpio
Posted by ImpulsvI know
U yelled at her in front of people
To Scorpio that is the worst to emberras me.
What did u yell at her in regards to?
I did not mean to. We had a plan to have a trip and we discussed that plan the whole summer. The plan didn't up becoming reality and I didn't have a problem with that. But I guess it was accumulated anger from my side regarding her almost always being "on the run to get home" in every time we went out. It just angered me that I turned off everything for her, always considered my time with her the most important thing and she was often just leaving in a hurry. I guess that accumulated and that night, while we were talking about having a short trip to a mountain nearby, her response "Well, I have to talk it over with my parents first..." just triggered something in me and I snapped.Posted by yupvirgooOf course I did. And I meant it. I did not feel good with myself for doing that.Posted by lizardking82wtff you're a leo venus..Posted by ImpulsvI know
U yelled at her in front of people
To Scorpio that is the worst to emberras me.
What did u yell at her in regards to?
must be your impulsive aries moon..
did you at least apologize?click to expand
Posted by DivaCanLeoI do not really care that she was going to talk it over with her parents. She can do that as much as she wants. What angered me was that she wanted to lie to her father about the trip. The first thing that came to her mind was "what lie do I tell to him about the trip?". No, they do not pay for everything, she works as a model and earns nice money, though she still lives with her parents. She's 19, not exactly your typical teenager either. Why lie ? Why shrug things under the rug when you don't have to? When you can just be open about it and tell your dad you have a boyfriend and you wanna take a trip with him. That's all
how old are you? and why shouldn't she talk to her PARENTS? She's still a teenager and they probably pay for everything for her.
you sound very lame. and selfish.
Posted by -elle-That is what I have been doing for the last 3 weeks and I don't intend to stop either. As I said, she keeps liking my Insta and Facebook posts, but I am not buying much into that. I told her we can sit down and talk about it and try and fix whatever bothered her about the relationship. She doesn't even have an exact idea of what is wrong and the most consistent thing she's said is "I don't feel the same, I cannot really explain it, but I just don't". So yeah, I guess you're right, gotta let her do her thing and then if she comes back, OK. If she doesn't... ain't much I can do about it either.
I don't think there is much you can do except give her space. Let her come to her own conclusions.
The showing up at work was also a bit much. Don't do that.
Posted by -elle-and her moon is in Taurus too ? sensitive emotionally perhaps ...
yeah, yelling (humiliating) one in public will get you exiled.
Posted by tctaYes, she is very sensitive. A part of hers I lovePosted by -elle-and her moon is in Taurus too ? sensitive emotionally perhaps ...
yeah, yelling (humiliating) one in public will get you exiled.click to expand
Posted by lizardking82Sorry but I think this is where the heart of the matter lies - she has a reason, and a reason she may not feel that you would understand perhaps - the family dynamics is a difficult one for an outsider to "interfere" into - it is sometimes hard to explain and may look simple to one but it can be complicated. On the other hand, I understand where you are coming from. Having to tell lies is not a good thing. Because there is a reason. And the lack of trust is there too.Posted by DivaCanLeoI do not really care that she was going to talk it over with her parents. She can do that as much as she wants. What angered me was that she wanted to lie to her father about the trip. The first thing that came to her mind was "what lie do I tell to him about the trip?". No, they do not pay for everything, she works as a model and earns nice money, though she still lives with her parents. She's 19, not exactly your typical teenager either. Why lie ? Why shrug things under the rug when you don't have to? When you can just be open about it and tell your dad you have a boyfriend and you wanna take a trip with him. That's all
how old are you? and why shouldn't she talk to her PARENTS? She's still a teenager and they probably pay for everything for her.
you sound very lame. and selfish.click to expand
Posted by yupvirgooI have not contacted her in 3 weeks in any kind of way. No likes back, no comments, no messages, no nothing. Any specific advice on what I should not or should do other than the above ?Posted by lizardking82She's liking your shit to let you know that she's not completely dumping you azz just yet and you still have some hope left. Duh.Posted by -elle-That is what I have been doing for the last 3 weeks and I don't intend to stop either. As I said, she keeps liking my Insta and Facebook posts, but I am not buying much into that. I told her we can sit down and talk about it and try and fix whatever bothered her about the relationship. She doesn't even have an exact idea of what is wrong and the most consistent thing she's said is "I don't feel the same, I cannot really explain it, but I just don't". So yeah, I guess you're right, gotta let her do her thing and then if she comes back, OK. If she doesn't... ain't much I can do about it either.
I don't think there is much you can do except give her space. Let her come to her own conclusions.
The showing up at work was also a bit much. Don't do that.
Don't mess it up even further.click to expand
You are almost twice her age?
Posted by DivaCanLeoNo, man. Where did you get thatPosted by lizardking82Were you born in 82?That would make you about 34?Posted by DivaCanLeoI do not really care that she was going to talk it over with her parents. She can do that as much as she wants. What angered me was that she wanted to lie to her father about the trip. The first thing that came to her mind was "what lie do I tell to him about the trip?". No, they do not pay for everything, she works as a model and earns nice money, though she still lives with her parents. She's 19, not exactly your typical teenager either. Why lie ? Why shrug things under the rug when you don't have to? When you can just be open about it and tell your dad you have a boyfriend and you wanna take a trip with him. That's all
how old are you? and why shouldn't she talk to her PARENTS? She's still a teenager and they probably pay for everything for her.
you sound very lame. and selfish.
are you 34 years old?click to expand
? I am born in 93, am 23 years old, she is 19.Posted by MyStarsShineNo, I am 23, she's 19.
You are almost twice her age?
Posted by yupvirgooAbsolutely. During these 3 weeks we met randomly in the street and before that we had gone about more than a week without any contact. As I said in my main e-mail, she jumped and hugged me tight, something I was not expecting at all. Then she kept on liking my posts, then she stopped for a while, now she's on and off again. This is the longest I have not not talked to her in any way since we got to know each other a bit more than 2 years ago.Posted by lizardking82Is this the longest time you've not been in contact with each other?Posted by yupvirgooI have not contacted her in 3 weeks in any kind of way. No likes back, no comments, no messages, no nothing. Any specific advice on what I should not or should do other than the above ?Posted by lizardking82She's liking your shit to let you know that she's not completely dumping you azz just yet and you still have some hope left. Duh.Posted by -elle-That is what I have been doing for the last 3 weeks and I don't intend to stop either. As I said, she keeps liking my Insta and Facebook posts, but I am not buying much into that. I told her we can sit down and talk about it and try and fix whatever bothered her about the relationship. She doesn't even have an exact idea of what is wrong and the most consistent thing she's said is "I don't feel the same, I cannot really explain it, but I just don't". So yeah, I guess you're right, gotta let her do her thing and then if she comes back, OK. If she doesn't... ain't much I can do about it either.
I don't think there is much you can do except give her space. Let her come to her own conclusions.
The showing up at work was also a bit much. Don't do that.
Don't mess it up even further.click to expand
Reach out to her for what? I have been told by a lot of people to leave her alone now and chasing her did not work at all. I have not been reaching out to her because she dumped my ass and did not back down when I wanted to discuss about it. It is not about pride, it's just that I don't think anything good will come by reaching out to her again.
I have been told by a lot of people to leave her alone now and chasing her did not work at all. I have not been reaching out to her because she dumped my ass and did not back down when I wanted to discuss about it. It is not about pride, it's just that I don't think anything good will come by reaching out to her again.Posted by yupvirgooReach out to her for what? I have been told by a lot of people to leave her alone now and chasing her did not work at all. I have not been reaching out to her because she dumped my ass and did not back down when I wanted to discuss about it. It is not about pride, it's just that I don't think anything good will come by reaching out to her again.Posted by lizardking82How dense can you be?Posted by yupvirgooAbsolutely. During these 3 weeks we met randomly in the street and before that we had gone about more than a week without any contact. As I said in my main e-mail, she jumped and hugged me tight, something I was not expecting at all. Then she kept on liking my posts, then she stopped for a while, now she's on and off again. This is the longest I have not not talked to her in any way since we got to know each other a bit more than 2 years ago.Posted by lizardking82Is this the longest time you've not been in contact with each other?Posted by yupvirgooI have not contacted her in 3 weeks in any kind of way. No likes back, no comments, no messages, no nothing. Any specific advice on what I should not or should do other than the above ?Posted by lizardking82She's liking your shit to let you know that she's not completely dumping you azz just yet and you still have some hope left. Duh.Posted by -elle-That is what I have been doing for the last 3 weeks and I don't intend to stop either. As I said, she keeps liking my Insta and Facebook posts, but I am not buying much into that. I told her we can sit down and talk about it and try and fix whatever bothered her about the relationship. She doesn't even have an exact idea of what is wrong and the most consistent thing she's said is "I don't feel the same, I cannot really explain it, but I just don't". So yeah, I guess you're right, gotta let her do her thing and then if she comes back, OK. If she doesn't... ain't much I can do about it either.
I don't think there is much you can do except give her space. Let her come to her own conclusions.
The showing up at work was also a bit much. Don't do that.
Don't mess it up even further.
She's curious why you haven't been reaching out to her.
Why haven't you been reaching out to her earlier?
Does your Libra mars want to be chased or what?click to expand
I was with a younger guy who wouldn't tell his parents that he was seeing me.....it was one of the reasons I ended it, because of his immaturity.....
She is 19.....barely out of school.....I think you have to stand right back and let her grow up some
Sorry
She is 19.....barely out of school.....I think you have to stand right back and let her grow up some
Sorry
Posted by tctaShe most probably does not trust her dad and that is why she doesn't feel comfortable to tell him not only this, but a lot of other things, too. Thing is, I have tried talking to her about this in a very calm and constructive way and she just resists to it because she has this way of thinking that she can have it good with everyone around her and that is pure bullshit. You cannot avoid fighting sometimes. Sometimes you gotta fight to resolve some things. I am not saying she should go picking fights with her parents about everything, not at all. But being afraid to tell your dad you have a boyfriend? Being afraid to tell your dad about a trip? Cause in this case, this does not stop so a simple, internal family problem where I would never intervene, but it applies to our relationship, too. We cannot have that trip probably because of this. What if she doesn't tell me some other things because she wants to have it good with me? See, when she asked for space, she told me "I have been feeling not comfortable for the last couple of months." I was astonished. There has been absolutely no sign whatsoever she was not feeling comfortable. So she chose not to tell me anything and keep it for herself until BOOM -> "I need space". And I asked her "why did you not tell me you are feeling uncomfortable?" And she went "Well, I thought it would change slowly". She has this way of thinking that things do not have to be resolved, problems will dissolve themselves and they will go away. And they do not. They simply do not. Sometimes you gotta face the fuckin' problems. I know fighting is not comfortable, I know it;s not easy for everyone to stand up to their parents, but to never do that... ? Never ?Posted by lizardking82Sorry but I think this is where the heart of the matter lies - she has a reason, and a reason she may not feel that you would understand perhaps - the family dynamics is a difficult one for an outsider to "interfere" into - it is sometimes hard to explain and may look simple to one but it can be complicated. On the other hand, I understand where you are coming from. Having to tell lies is not a good thing. Because there is a reason. And the lack of trust is there too.Posted by DivaCanLeoI do not really care that she was going to talk it over with her parents. She can do that as much as she wants. What angered me was that she wanted to lie to her father about the trip. The first thing that came to her mind was "what lie do I tell to him about the trip?". No, they do not pay for everything, she works as a model and earns nice money, though she still lives with her parents. She's 19, not exactly your typical teenager either. Why lie ? Why shrug things under the rug when you don't have to? When you can just be open about it and tell your dad you have a boyfriend and you wanna take a trip with him. That's all
how old are you? and why shouldn't she talk to her PARENTS? She's still a teenager and they probably pay for everything for her.
you sound very lame. and selfish.click to expand
Posted by lizardking82Well, I agree with you then and that seems to be a huge problem - she's a mess in this area and although it hurts you may have dodged a bullet here. As a Taurus Sun I can say that I've gone a short period of time when I have felt that things were not going right before ending the situation however, months? Wow, not good. Sounds very strange. Sorry ...Posted by tctaShe most probably does not trust her dad and that is why she doesn't feel comfortable to tell him not only this, but a lot of other things, too. Thing is, I have tried talking to her about this in a very calm and constructive way and she just resists to it because she has this way of thinking that she can have it good with everyone around her and that is pure bullshit. You cannot avoid fighting sometimes. Sometimes you gotta fight to resolve some things. I am not saying she should go picking fights with her parents about everything, not at all. But being afraid to tell your dad you have a boyfriend? Being afraid to tell your dad about a trip? Cause in this case, this does not stop so a simple, internal family problem where I would never intervene, but it applies to our relationship, too. We cannot have that trip probably because of this. What if she doesn't tell me some other things because she wants to have it good with me? See, when she asked for space, she told me "I have been feeling not comfortable for the last couple of months." I was astonished. There has been absolutely no sign whatsoever she was not feeling comfortable. So she chose not to tell me anything and keep it for herself until BOOM -> "I need space". And I asked her "why did you not tell me you are feeling uncomfortable?" And she went "Well, I thought it would change slowly". She has this way of thinking that things do not have to be resolved, problems will dissolve themselves and they will go away. And they do not. They simply do not. Sometimes you gotta face the fuckin' problems. I know fighting is not comfortable, I know it;s not easy for everyone to stand up to their parents, but to never do that... ? Never ?Posted by lizardking82Sorry but I think this is where the heart of the matter lies - she has a reason, and a reason she may not feel that you would understand perhaps - the family dynamics is a difficult one for an outsider to "interfere" into - it is sometimes hard to explain and may look simple to one but it can be complicated. On the other hand, I understand where you are coming from. Having to tell lies is not a good thing. Because there is a reason. And the lack of trust is there too.Posted by DivaCanLeoI do not really care that she was going to talk it over with her parents. She can do that as much as she wants. What angered me was that she wanted to lie to her father about the trip. The first thing that came to her mind was "what lie do I tell to him about the trip?". No, they do not pay for everything, she works as a model and earns nice money, though she still lives with her parents. She's 19, not exactly your typical teenager either. Why lie ? Why shrug things under the rug when you don't have to? When you can just be open about it and tell your dad you have a boyfriend and you wanna take a trip with him. That's all
how old are you? and why shouldn't she talk to her PARENTS? She's still a teenager and they probably pay for everything for her.
you sound very lame. and selfish.click to expand
Posted by MyStarsShineI guess there is not much else to do
I was with a younger guy who wouldn't tell his parents that he was seeing me.....it was one of the reasons I ended it, because of his immaturity.....
She is 19.....barely out of school.....I think you have to stand right back and let her grow up some
Sorry
and I think I gotta let her come to me if she will ever feel like + at the same time go on with my life... tough thing to do, but maybe it is so tough because it happened just about a month and a half ago and the whole thing is still pretty fresh Posted by PlaguedThree weeks no contact now, I guess she will sometime in the future understand what she wants ?
Both ends got problems.
Scorpio girl doesn't seem to even know what she wants, cold then hugs then cold then hugs.
Posted by starwarsShould I take this seriously or not ? The picture got me a bit confusedPosted by lizardking82keep doing thatPosted by -elle-That is what I have been doing for the last 3 weeks and I don't intend to stop either.
I don't think there is much you can do except give her space. Let her come to her own conclusions.
The showing up at work was also a bit much. Don't do that.
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Posted by lizardking82Posted by MyStarsShineI guess there is not much else to do
I was with a younger guy who wouldn't tell his parents that he was seeing me.....it was one of the reasons I ended it, because of his immaturity.....
She is 19.....barely out of school.....I think you have to stand right back and let her grow up some
Sorryclick to expand
Yes, sadly
All for a reason, Virgo....I know that doesn't help at the moment....but if you can let go and see what happens, you will probably get your answers then
Chin up. . .
If it is any help, I am so glad I let go of my exes......we can't control people and have to let them grow in their own time
I think the problem is that she might not trust you anymore. You were trying to change her to see everything your way. Her Taurus moon and Scorpio sun hates that and makes her feel like you're not her safe place anymore. Or (if she's like me) that you don't even really know or like her as much as you say you do. If you get her back she'll be wondering what lie to tell u bc she can't be herself with u. If u want to get her back convince her that she can trust you. Bring up something specific that you know makes her feel safe and connects you two.
But seriously, 19 is young. If you're over 25, then maybe think about the reasons you're really after her (I've know virgos to be controlling and date younger bc it's easier - is that you?)
But seriously, 19 is young. If you're over 25, then maybe think about the reasons you're really after her (I've know virgos to be controlling and date younger bc it's easier - is that you?)
Ignore her. I mean she obviously knows that you are in love with her.
I don't think the yelling thing was really important to her due to her later behavior, so stop regretting about it. She KNOWS what you truly feel for her, so she know she can come back to your arms the moment she wants, so completely ignore her. She may come back to you by herself, if you go after the chase and all that I don't think is gonna work for you both. If she doesn't come back you can't blame her or blame you. Besides,There's nothing more sexier for a scorpio woman than something is not allowed for us to have.
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I don't think the yelling thing was really important to her due to her later behavior, so stop regretting about it. She KNOWS what you truly feel for her, so she know she can come back to your arms the moment she wants, so completely ignore her. She may come back to you by herself, if you go after the chase and all that I don't think is gonna work for you both. If she doesn't come back you can't blame her or blame you. Besides,There's nothing more sexier for a scorpio woman than something is not allowed for us to have.
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Posted by lizardking82How sure are you that she's 19? Have you seen id?
However, she is very young, just 19 now, and lately, during the second year, we started having some friction about her relationship with her parents.
I was pressuring her sometimes and was insisting she fix her relationship with her father because it was such a fucked up one, she never told him a lot of things, her father didn't know about us, he didn't know about a trip we did last year and so on.
Cause if I'm underage and dating a 23 yr old I'm not gonna tell my dad you exist either.
Posted by lizardking82Posted by tctaShe most probably does not trust her dad and that is why she doesn't feel comfortable to tell him not only this, but a lot of other things, too. Thing is, I have tried talking to her about this in a very calm and constructive way and she just resists to it because she has this way of thinking that she can have it good with everyone around her and that is pure bullshit. You cannot avoid fighting sometimes. Sometimes you gotta fight to resolve some things. I am not saying she should go picking fights with her parents about everything, not at all. But being afraid to tell your dad you have a boyfriend? Being afraid to tell your dad about a trip? Cause in this case, this does not stop so a simple, internal family problem where I would never intervene, but it applies to our relationship, too. We cannot have that trip probably because of this. What if she doesn't tell me some other things because she wants to have it good with me? See, when she asked for space, she told me "I have been feeling not comfortable for the last couple of months." I was astonished. There has been absolutely no sign whatsoever she was not feeling comfortable. So she chose not to tell me anything and keep it for herself until BOOM -> "I need space". And I asked her "why did you not tell me you are feeling uncomfortable?" And she went "Well, I thought it would change slowly". She has this way of thinking that things do not have to be resolved, problems will dissolve themselves and they will go away. And they do not. They simply do not. Sometimes you gotta face the fuckin' problems. I know fighting is not comfortable, I know it;s not easy for everyone to stand up to their parents, but to never do that... ? Never ?Posted by lizardking82Sorry but I think this is where the heart of the matter lies - she has a reason, and a reason she may not feel that you would understand perhaps - the family dynamics is a difficult one for an outsider to "interfere" into - it is sometimes hard to explain and may look simple to one but it can be complicated. On the other hand, I understand where you are coming from. Having to tell lies is not a good thing. Because there is a reason. And the lack of trust is there too.Posted by DivaCanLeoI do not really care that she was going to talk it over with her parents. She can do that as much as she wants. What angered me was that she wanted to lie to her father about the trip. The first thing that came to her mind was "what lie do I tell to him about the trip?". No, they do not pay for everything, she works as a model and earns nice money, though she still lives with her parents. She's 19, not exactly your typical teenager either. Why lie ? Why shrug things under the rug when you don't have to? When you can just be open about it and tell your dad you have a boyfriend and you wanna take a trip with him. That's all
how old are you? and why shouldn't she talk to her PARENTS? She's still a teenager and they probably pay for everything for her.
you sound very lame. and selfish.click to expand
I feel you. That's definitely a Scorpio thing. They can throw everything and the kitchen sink under the rug and hate when you try to expose those things (even privately). My sister is a year apart and we're close but whenever I try to mention something that we're both aware of that she did bad, she'll shut down on me. She's my sister and I love her but can't trust her cuz of that.
As starwars said "moody teen"
They are all over the place at this age
They are all over the place at this age
Posted by starwarsDeep inside, I am hoping it;s just her teenagery that's causing all this and I am hoping she gets over it soon. I absolutely love her and care about her in ways I never did about someone before because she transmits a very pure, sweet and true energy. But I am not chasing anymore. If she wants our relationship back, she;s gonna have to be the one that asks for this. After all, she wanted to break up, so...
- I know your intentions were good, Virgos can be extreme when it comes to fixing people problems! but you need to understand that you shouldn't push someone to fix their own problems, sometimes people just want you to listen and support them. I'm sure she knows that she need to fix her relationship with father, you telling her to do just that isn't much of a help. all you have to do was support her with whatever decision she take, that way she'd trust you and open up, take your advice into consideration (doesn't necessary follow it) let her be, I'm sure she'll figure it out by her own.
- hot and cold behavior = moody teen
Posted by starwarsNo, I did not overlook your advice at all. Thank you for taking the time to write what you did, reallyPosted by lizardking82why do people overlook my serious thoughtful advices and take the things I say for the lulz seriously??????????????????????????????????????????????Posted by starwarsDeep inside, I am hoping it;s just her teenagery that's causing all this and I am hoping she gets over it soon. I absolutely love her and care about her in ways I never did about someone before because she transmits a very pure, sweet and true energy. But I am not chasing anymore. If she wants our relationship back, she;s gonna have to be the one that asks for this. After all, she wanted to break up, so...
- I know your intentions were good, Virgos can be extreme when it comes to fixing people problems! but you need to understand that you shouldn't push someone to fix their own problems, sometimes people just want you to listen and support them. I'm sure she knows that she need to fix her relationship with father, you telling her to do just that isn't much of a help. all you have to do was support her with whatever decision she take, that way she'd trust you and open up, take your advice into consideration (doesn't necessary follow it) let her be, I'm sure she'll figure it out by her own.
- hot and cold behavior = moody teenclick to expand
I just kind of expressed my feelings further, that's all. I am gonna take your advice, a big part of it, for sure. Posted by SomeSortOfMermaidNo, no, I don't owe her anymore apologies, that is for sure. I said sorry for my mistakes. I was not exactly her dirty secret, though. Her mom knows since about a year now and I have gone out with her and her friends many times. Her friends loved me, had her girlfriends kind of daydreaming about how cute we are and how well we go with each other and she told them I am perfect, I never make her mad (and I almost never did actually) and so on. You also suggest leaving her alone now ?
First of all, people on here are fucking stupid to think you're 30 something just because of your username. Isn't this an Astro board? Nobody actually picked up on the dudes generational planets?! *facepalm*
Anyway onto the issue.. OP your (ex) gf is a liar and you had every right to have been upset with her. Don't listen to anyone making excuses for a liar. You deserve to be acknowledged as her bf.
Yelling at her in public was a shitty thing to do but you know that. Same with the stalking. But you apologised and tried to win her back still when she has just as much to apologise for if not more.
She's immature and playing games. I don't think you owe her anymore apologies. Imagine if the tables were turned, as if any Scorpio would ever accept to be your dirty secret.
Posted by SomeSortOfMermaidShe has an older sister, 2 years older than her. That is a completely stupid, very average person and even she acknowledges the fact. Her sister never told her dad so her reason (which stills seems a bit not real to me) was that she didn't wanna be the frontrunner on the family to tell daddy she has a boyfriend.Posted by lizardking82Did she ever tell you why she lies to her dad about you?Posted by SomeSortOfMermaidNo, no, I don't owe her anymore apologies, that is for sure. I said sorry for my mistakes. I was not exactly her dirty secret, though. Her mom knows since about a year now and I have gone out with her and her friends many times. Her friends loved me, had her girlfriends kind of daydreaming about how cute we are and how well we go with each other and she told them I am perfect, I never make her mad (and I almost never did actually) and so on. You also suggest leaving her alone now ?
First of all, people on here are fucking stupid to think you're 30 something just because of your username. Isn't this an Astro board? Nobody actually picked up on the dudes generational planets?! *facepalm*
Anyway onto the issue.. OP your (ex) gf is a liar and you had every right to have been upset with her. Don't listen to anyone making excuses for a liar. You deserve to be acknowledged as her bf.
Yelling at her in public was a shitty thing to do but you know that. Same with the stalking. But you apologised and tried to win her back still when she has just as much to apologise for if not more.
She's immature and playing games. I don't think you owe her anymore apologies. Imagine if the tables were turned, as if any Scorpio would ever accept to be your dirty secret.
It's up to you what you wanna do in regards to her. But you deserve an honest girlfriend that is mature and doesn't play games.click to expand
You're not very stable for her. Aries moon. Lashes out without thinking but forgives and forgets immediately. Unfortunately the wounds last longer for a Scorp.
You're smothering her one minute and cold the next. Allow her space. Allow her time to process. Allow her time to miss you and come to her own conclusions.
You're both young. Enjoy it while it lasts!
You're smothering her one minute and cold the next. Allow her space. Allow her time to process. Allow her time to miss you and come to her own conclusions.
You're both young. Enjoy it while it lasts!
The hilarious part about this topic is how different the responses would have been had you been hiding your relationship with her from your family.
There is no Scorpio in existence that would be down for that so I'll just be here laughing at the hypocrisy. They would not respect a man who would be ok with being kept a secret either.
The white knighting show must go on...
There is no Scorpio in existence that would be down for that so I'll just be here laughing at the hypocrisy. They would not respect a man who would be ok with being kept a secret either.
The white knighting show must go on...
Well, everyone, excuse me for being so stupid to think that someone who hides things under the rug is a problem... I mean, it messes up with my trust, do you guys get it? She can do whatever she wants with her dad and I wouldn't care. But when we stop having trips because she doesn't wanna tell her dad and when she needs to go home almost always in a hurry, it ruins the complete mood of the relationship and I surely do have a problem with that.
She called her sister stupid and her sister is stupid, I cannot call her what she is not. And I am absolutely not trying to compete with anyone in any kind of way. But I guess the most consistent thought on this is to leave her alone, at least from most people in this chat.
I think the first thing you need to understand is why she's lying to her parents about you, and this can only be accomplished by discussing the topic thoroughly, without being judgmental.
Maybe it's just me but i think as long as my significant other proves their love, support, loyalty and respect for me is genuine, i would be patient and wait to be introduced to the parents on their own terms. Even more so if their relationship is a troubled one.
Maybe it's just me but i think as long as my significant other proves their love, support, loyalty and respect for me is genuine, i would be patient and wait to be introduced to the parents on their own terms. Even more so if their relationship is a troubled one.
Let her deal with her parents they way she wants...if you don't give her time to process, it'll never be repaired and she will seek revenge for all the humiliation. Revenge as in, replacing you all together.
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