Posted by nanobyte
"With an emotionally cold person, chances are good that the more you push, the more distant he will become. Continually asking such a person to share his feelings, or attempting to make him feel guilty for not doing so, can cause him to back away from you and spend time with people who aren't as demanding."
YEP
And this right here exactly is why, imho, generally
air & water doesn't have too high a success rate, without considering any other placements.
Posted by nanobyteoh definitely.Posted by lisabethur8Irl I see trine energies most commonly attracted to one another.Posted by nanobyte
"With an emotionally cold person, chances are good that the more you push, the more distant he will become. Continually asking such a person to share his feelings, or attempting to make him feel guilty for not doing so, can cause him to back away from you and spend time with people who aren't as demanding."
YEP
And this right here exactly is why, imho, generally
air & water doesn't have too high a success rate, without considering any other placements.
i agree.
I believe that Air needs Air and Earth needs Earthclick to expand
Yeah I notice this in myself. I'm a Taurus with an Aqua dominant and I'm pretty cold and distant. Everyone calls me out on it too. I never really had a close relationship with my family, and we were never affectionate, so growing up, I did feel rejected and unloved. My brothers and I all felt like we had to learn how to be independent and take care of ourselves at a young age because our parents would rather go party and be with their friends than take care of us. Now, my defense mechanism is to cut people off when they fuck up. I'm really trying not to do this anymore, but it's hard.
have you noticed this with the air and earth peeps?
that they've been rejected early in life and then they learned to psychologically defend themselves from the hate. as a way of coping?
Posted by bumboklattHa. Funny that you mentioned this. One of my brothers has a Taurus moon, the other has a Scorpio moon and I have a Cancer moon, and what you described is so accurate.
Well the moon kinda agrees with the psychology
For example Scorpio moon means difficult nurturing usually from the mother, tough emotional self preservation
Taurus moon, difficulty with the father
Capricorn moon usually spells a tough domineering mother, strives to achieve
Cancer the opposite, a overbearing mother
The energy they transfer to us we carry
Posted by tiziani
Water is too cold for Air. Air is warm yet, by itself, just lacks the physicality to bring Water up to the surface. That's when you will get Water being distant, when they are stuck inside of their own world. And the most torturous part is that Air has all the imagination to make Water's worst fears look very real inside of that world. Which can be hilarious if you know how to laugh at yourself but, at other times, it is just plain badly timed and out of touch.
Posted by tizianiPosted by bumboklattHave you noticed how, in astrology, both parental planets (Moon and Saturn) are cold in nature? Basically the world is grim and our parents never loved us. If they did, they would have never let us leave the womb lol
Well the moon kinda agrees with the psychology
For example Scorpio moon means difficult nurturing usually from the mother, tough emotional self preservation
Taurus moon, difficulty with the father
Capricorn moon usually spells a tough domineering mother, strives to achieve
Cancer the opposite, a overbearing mother
The energy they transfer to us we carryclick to expand
Posted by iCloud9very very smart.Posted by tiziani
Water is too cold for Air. Air is warm yet, by itself, just lacks the physicality to bring Water up to the surface. That's when you will get Water being distant, when they are stuck inside of their own world. And the most torturous part is that Air has all the imagination to make Water's worst fears look very real inside of that world. Which can be hilarious if you know how to laugh at yourself but, at other times, it is just plain badly timed and out of touch.
indeed
i sometimes laugh when i see the comments about the supposedly cold, detached aqua moon. it actually saves the pisces and 12 house neptune from being completely disengagedclick to expand
Posted by thecrazyariestaurusim sorry to hear that, i hope you can find it in yourself to accept the things you can't change and that you learn from your upbringing but it doesn't have to make you keep holding on that it's their fault.Yeah I notice this in myself. I'm a Taurus with an Aqua dominant and I'm pretty cold and distant. Everyone calls me out on it too. I never really had a close relationship with my family, and we were never affectionate, so growing up, I did feel rejected and unloved. My brothers and I all felt like we had to learn how to be independent and take care of ourselves at a young age because our parents would rather go party and be with their friends than take care of us. Now, my defense mechanism is to cut people off when they fuck up. I'm really trying not to do this anymore, but it's hard.
have you noticed this with the air and earth peeps?
that they've been rejected early in life and then they learned to psychologically defend themselves from the hate. as a way of coping?click to expand
Posted by lisabethur8Thank you. Like I said, I'm trying to better myself and stop using my defense mechanism because it's not fair to other people. I was really bitter about my childhood and parents for years, but I'm trying to let it go and get past it.Posted by thecrazyariestaurusim sorry to hear that, i hope you can find it in yourself to accept the things you can't change and that you learn from your upbringing but it doesn't have to make you keep holding on that it's their fault.Yeah I notice this in myself. I'm a Taurus with an Aqua dominant and I'm pretty cold and distant. Everyone calls me out on it too. I never really had a close relationship with my family, and we were never affectionate, so growing up, I did feel rejected and unloved. My brothers and I all felt like we had to learn how to be independent and take care of ourselves at a young age because our parents would rather go party and be with their friends than take care of us. Now, my defense mechanism is to cut people off when they fuck up. I'm really trying not to do this anymore, but it's hard.
have you noticed this with the air and earth peeps?
that they've been rejected early in life and then they learned to psychologically defend themselves from the hate. as a way of coping?
no one is perfect, and neither are you. That's what in my opinion you should remind yourself of...click to expand
Posted by nanobyteThat's exactly what I will do. I hate been pushed or asked to share. I will just run the other way.
" the more you push, the more distant he will become. Continually asking such a person to share his feelings, or attempting to make him feel guilty for not doing so, can cause him to back away from you and spend time with people who aren't as demanding."
Posted by thecrazyariestaurusi hope you're able to get over it, and if it's too difficult, it's not too shameful to go to some therapy sessions and help for this kind of thing. good luck.Posted by lisabethur8Thank you. Like I said, I'm trying to better myself and stop using my defense mechanism because it's not fair to other people. I was really bitter about my childhood and parents for years, but I'm trying to let it go and get past it.Posted by thecrazyariestaurusim sorry to hear that, i hope you can find it in yourself to accept the things you can't change and that you learn from your upbringing but it doesn't have to make you keep holding on that it's their fault.Yeah I notice this in myself. I'm a Taurus with an Aqua dominant and I'm pretty cold and distant. Everyone calls me out on it too. I never really had a close relationship with my family, and we were never affectionate, so growing up, I did feel rejected and unloved. My brothers and I all felt like we had to learn how to be independent and take care of ourselves at a young age because our parents would rather go party and be with their friends than take care of us. Now, my defense mechanism is to cut people off when they fuck up. I'm really trying not to do this anymore, but it's hard.
have you noticed this with the air and earth peeps?
that they've been rejected early in life and then they learned to psychologically defend themselves from the hate. as a way of coping?
no one is perfect, and neither are you. That's what in my opinion you should remind yourself of...click to expand
Posted by Impulsvthese men need to find courage in themselves, and that being turned down, and having failure is OK.
So what's the solution. All my relationship with men have the dynamic of them being emotionally cold n not affectionate
So I feel my needs are not met
N I know it's defense mechanism from neglectful childhood
But even with this knowing it is difficult to be with them because my needs aren't met