DO VIRGUYS AVOID GIRLS THEY REALLY LIKE?

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I have a theory, which may be true for SOME Virguys, which explains their all too common "disappearing act" once the relationship seems to be going so well...maybe TOO well for them so they get scared.

A lot of men say they avoid women they really like because they're afraid that they'll get "too close" and that she'll find out more about him and then possibly be "disappointed" and ultimately reject him. If they feel the girl is "way outta their league" it's almost "euphoric" to be hitting it off with them so well, but then once they find their emotions are spinning outta control they freak and withdraw, hiding away so that they don't get hurt by this woman they find can get them "spun". It's sort of an anxiety attack I guess...like an "I'll reject you or push you away before you find a reason to reject me." They ride the wave until they feel they'll get dropped, so they jump off prematurely and resist trying again for fear of failure.

I met a Virguy 5 weeks ago and we were having a great time together..made a very enjoyable connection on different levels. He was getting extremely excited to see me again and did say I got him "spun" and was showing signs of getting really sweet on me. His character as I'd gotten to see was noble, and gentlemanly. He protected me one evening when I was being followed by creeps. Suddenly without ANY warning he just stops all communication. I even sent him a care package and I didn't receive any acknowledgement for it. In light of his previous behavior and his friend's referral of him being a "great guy", I think this extreme rudeness has to be explained by something other than he's a "total jerk". Often shy people, or those who lack self-confidence may come off as being snobs, rude, and jerks, when really they're just so afraid of being exposed they withdraw and give off these wrong impressions, yes? He's probably just scared that he won't "measure up" and will get hurt again if he tries, so he'll just resist all my efforts to communicate with him. I told him via text that "Others may think the world of us, yet we think we're never "good enough". Let others be the judge sometime and we can open the door to happiness."

He's only been in 2 long term-relationships. He said he took the first break up really hard. He worked on a crab boat for 15 years-I can imagine not much opportunity to really socialize with women.
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I didn't post 3 or 4 threads on HIM...lol. The first one I tried to post came up incomplete, so I had to try AGAIN(1ST POST). This is only my SECOND post, from a different ANGLE, pertaining to why men, INCLUDING Virguys, might avoid a girl. Jeez people, don't get so touchy. These subjects are meant to be EXPLORED, are they not, which is why we're all here in the first place. Besides, I'd rather come off as being a caring person rather than a cold hearted person, and make my feelings known instead of blowing other people off and not even trying to understand them, if I CARE about it at all. At least I didn't do anything wrong by having a heart and I have more class than he's shown. That's for sure.
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LOL @wsigaf...compared to his behavior I guess I ought to be put on a pedestal...j/k. πŸ˜‰ Hey, I know my worth, and I guess I was insulted by someone who could be as rude as this, so I have to find some way to reason it...I hate unresolved issues and unanswered questions. If I didn't think he was worth it I wouldn't have even tried, but apparently it's obvious by his behavior that he's not. It's also a fact, guys do chicken out when they feel intimidated by a situation that makes them feel insecure, as evidenced in other posts...just thought I'd try to get more honest feedback on it here. So far there's been mostly snippity comments, but that's okay. No worries. Other threads seem to validate this, so I'll stick with that. πŸ™‚
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Actually, I have also heard Virgo guys are prone to acting this way. To be honest I wouldn't have the patience to tolerate it for long. Playing 'hard-to-get'? No thanks, bro.



Hard to get is a game and really now, what kind of Virguy likes to play games when it comes to relationships? I like to think of it as a temporary withdraw to re-evaluate the current situation. It's all in order to get back in control of yourself, at least it is for me.
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@SomeRandomVirgo: I think you're right on that one. I can't explain it any other way why he would allow himself to appear this rude and avoid me at all costs other than he NEEDS to get his head back on straight because he was getting "spun" as he put it. I heard it freaks Virguys out when their emotions become that intense and they do need to rethink it all to get a clearer understanding or grasp on the whole situation before they progress any further...it's like putting a temporary hold on things, for as long as they need to...he's got a lot of other demands pressing in on him too, like a VERY heavy workload at this time (70 hour weeks).

The only other thing I can think of is that he had a prior relationship with someone that wants to continue, and he needs to make sure which one he wants before continuing on with me. But, he cannot be "dating" two women at the same time, in his fair mind, so he has to put one on hold, which would be me, while he feels the other relationship out, and then make a more definite choice. I understand that too, and appreciate his doing that if it were the case, because I wouldn't want to have the wrong impression only to find out he's got some other chick he's been seeing on the side while he's been sweet on me too...not very classy. I wouldn't do it, and don't think he would too. He could be checking out all other options right now too while deliberating, weighing the pros and cons, and allowing himself to come to a more "kosher" decision...lol. πŸ˜‰ But, he has to remove himself entirely from the situation in order to do this. I'm analytical too-Triple Air sign PLUS Virgo in Venus, so I understand the Virgo part of it as well...just don't think he'd blow me off entirely for no good reason. I did nothing wrong, and he was the one getting all flustered...so, makes sense I guess, once I remove myself from the situation.

Either way, it's a "lost cause" to me. I've written it off, and if he does decide to come back after he's got his head fastened on tightly then I will still treat him as a friend. I don't like to harbor ill will, and nobody said anything about dating yet(although the feelings were developing), so it's just "water under the bridge" so to speak, and a "no harm, no foul". I understand why he had to back away. It's okay. Virgo men take a long time in relationships anyway 'cuz they have to wait until they realize whether the person is someone they "can't live without". Friendship's good. πŸ™‚
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One good thing about this is over those 2 weeks of my making attempts to contact him and inquire whether he was alright, etc. is that MY TRUE COLORS were able to shine and he was able to see, if he read my texts and listened to my vmails, etc. that I am a very sincere person, true blue, a benefit of the doubt seeker, yet also someone who will not stand for rudeness, is openly honest with him and myself, will try to be as understanding as possible, and who is forgiving and able to move on with her own life once clarity and closure has been accomplished. I don't see this as any form of "groveling, or desperation" as some might think bothering to contact someone who's rudely ignoring you may appear, but rather, as a way to express YOUR true colors to them, and leave the onus on them to be who they choose to be. He knows full well where I'm coming from at least, and I don't play games. I am a true blue person, and will continue to be such, regardless of his choice of actions. :-)
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Actually, I have also heard Virgo guys are prone to acting this way. To be honest I wouldn't have the patience to tolerate it for long. Playing 'hard-to-get'? No thanks, bro.



Hard to get is a game and really now, what kind of Virguy likes to play games when it comes to relationships? I like to think of it as a temporary withdraw to re-evaluate the current situation. It's all in order to get back in control of yourself, at least it is for me.



Oh man. Live a little. lol
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I'm a Virguy, that's impossible.
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@ SomeRandomVirgo: LOL...oh, c'mon. You guys can "live a little" and enjoy life, but it has to be well calculated, otherwise it's just not practical, right? πŸ˜‰ lol Playing "the game" just for kicks will deal you the same blow for being insincere and playing with others emotions in the long run. I'd rather be a "straight shooter" myself. Either straight up, or straight out. There'll always be people who find you attractive, but who can you really trust to stay with you for the "long haul"...no one will...that's why friends is a good thing. πŸ™‚
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Don't get in the habit of making excuses for men. His motivation is for not contacting you is irrelevant at this point. Bottom line, he didn't. How he acts towards you (regardless of the motivation) should be enough to know he isn't that interested. No man is so insecure that won't go after a girl he's crazy about. He was nice to you but that's all he was, don't take it to mean more.
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@Mistery: Thanks for your candid response. I appreciate in depth honesty. Yes, obviously he hasn't bothered to contact me and he's not "that interested" from the looks of it...especially now that he'd gotten my annoyance going. lol But, I guess I still had to reason it somehow because it is really bizarre someone would just disappear like this with no warning, when they were the ones "jumping outta their seat" for you. Weird is all, and Virguys do this when they are scared of themselves, which means they're interested to the point they're afraid to move-so, if he comes back around, okay, friends is all I can offer. Men make allowances for women too, and deal with our moods as well, so I don't see it as "enabling" his behavior by trying to understand him, rather, I want to understand as best as I can for MY sake ultimately. His actions just didn't add up...if you knew our conversations and interactions, you'd know it was more than him just being "nice" to me, and I know superficial flirtations, or halfhearted, "obligatory" niceities. This was not.

@QLibraMale: lol...be "interesting" to him? πŸ˜‰ In what way? I don't know if he thinks I'm "interesting" at this point, or just became a "pain in the a $ $ " because I called him out on his rudeness and vascillated between trying to be understanding and annoyed. Friends'll tell you like it is, and I approached my contact with him that way-but no friend would intentionally keep the other "worried" for no good reason. It's been almost a week since I last bothered contacting him and I have my "closure" on it. I don't regret anything I did...I did it for myself and on my own terms, not his. Follow my gut? Hmm...I don't think we're "made for each other", but it would be nice to maintain a friendship, but it takes TWO for that. So, it's his loss if he never contacts me again, and I don't expect him to either, which is fine. I wasn't the one acting like a "jerk" here...but, I still give him the benefit of the doubt...I don't think ALL men are entirely rude pig $ , and some just don't know how to deal, or what to do, and feel bad about it too. I'm moving on.

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@Virg_goki: Hahaha...I never really use that phrase myself, but I think it's a catch all way of saying "He's not interested enough to continue the pursuit". I think that is not necessarily the truth in all cases. Some men pursue because they are bold and brash, maybe have over-confidence and don't realize they may just be pursuing for their ego sake, or maybe they really do like the girl, but they could scare her away too. Others take the more subtle approach, and when they do really like someone they gotta step back and give it time to settle and to see if they STILL really like the girl/guy after a period of no contact...that's a tell tale sign in itself as well. Once their mind is made up, typically there's no stopping them though. πŸ˜‰ We can get so caught up in the "pursuit" we forget to take a good look at things sometimes. That's my take on it.

I actually think it's a good thing to take a step back and re-evaluate and give things time to settle, for these reasons. I would prefer some notice if it's going to happen, but in a way it's even more effective if you don't have notice because it really does bring out a LOT of stuff, in yourself and the other person. It helps you see where you stand with your feelings clearer in stead of getting caught up in the "cloud" so to speak. For someone to do a complete 360 like that, there's gotta be something going on more than "he's just not that into you". Anyway, no worries...it's all good. :-)
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Kellana, this happens a lot, to women & men regardless of signs. Lots of great starts and confusing drop-outs. We'll never really know what they were thinking or why they couldn't appreciate (especially your thoughtful gesture) us. It's all part of the dance and risk we take for love. Just don't let it get to you because usually the reason has nothing to do with you as he didn't even know you so shrug it off and live to love another day sweetie. Wish you the best! πŸ˜‰
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@Mistery: :-) Thanks Mistery for your kind and thoughtful words. That is true...it's the risk we take for trying for something we hope will be significant, but it usually aborts itself in many strange, sometimes mysterious ways, like this. No sense wondering why. A loss is a loss and we have to move on instead of crying about spilt milk...I guess it hurts the ego too for being rejected so violently with no explanation and no fault of your own...but yes, it has nothing to do with me. It's something we all do...avoid, disengage, and hope that it'll die off eventually like a plant that isn't watered. I gotta let go of "the root" and let it die because it takes two to keep a relationship, and by myself I'd just be entertaining a "dream"-the reality is that this will never grow further nor be heard of again and even though it looked like something that could've been great, it just wasn't meant to be, and it was aborted by the other...so, live to love another day right! lol :-) Yes, and there's a LOT more prospects, better ones, in the future for me. πŸ˜„
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LOL...@ Cappysweetie: WHY? πŸ˜‰ I'm as friendly as can be to him, and he still is so afraid to even acknowledge, or even say HI...

It reminds me of being in grade school. LOL...you have a guy friend, and you get along GREAT! Then one day the guy realizes he really LIKES YOU, and then he acts like he "hates you" and avoids you at ALL COSTS...avoids you in the hallways, won't talk to you anymore, is totally shut off and shut down. WTF? LOL...and we were getting along SOOOO WELL!! But now, he just doesn't know what to do with his feelings and is unsure of himself so he runs away.

It drove me nuts then, and it still is a bunch of boloney now, but he's there, I'm here and he can't do nuthin' about it, so end of story huh. lol Even if he found another girl, why can't we just be friends? What's so wrong with that? It's not like he's seriously dating right now. He's still on Match lookin' around...guys are just too weird sometimes. lol πŸ˜‰
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LOL...@ Cappysweetie: WHY? πŸ˜‰ I'm as friendly as can be to him, and he still is so afraid to even acknowledge, or even say HI...

It reminds me of being in grade school. LOL...you have a guy friend, and you get along GREAT! Then one day the guy realizes he really LIKES YOU, and then he acts like he "hates you" and avoids you at ALL COSTS...avoids you in the hallways, won't talk to you anymore, is totally shut off and shut down. WTF? LOL...and we were getting along SOOOO WELL!! But now, he just doesn't know what to do with his feelings and is unsure of himself so he runs away.

It drove me nuts then, and it still is a bunch of boloney now, but he's there, I'm here and he can't do nuthin' about it, so end of story huh. lol Even if he found another girl, why can't we just be friends? What's so wrong with that? It's not like he's seriously dating right now. He's still on Match lookin' around...guys are just too weird sometimes. lol πŸ˜‰



I know, it's stupid, real stupid and when a virguy does it, then it's just damn near dumbassness ^_^. Only because they don't want to show 'vulnerability' or whatever so going for a relationship that's not too deep somehow makes them feel empowered and 'in control'. *rolls eyes*

In control my sweet bottom-cakes πŸ˜‰
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@ Sebastian! LOL! I already DID! I told him how much I liked him and I wanted to continue on with at least a friendship. I let him know that I missed him and the chemistry that we had. I also told him "let's be honest, there's potential, but not if I'm gone." lol Yada yada, but to no avail. Life's too short to have limiting beliefs that'll prevent us from enjoying all the good things it has to offer!

He's just too chicken at this point, and all my honesty about my feelings towards him may've pumped his ego a bit, but it didn't move him to call me and say he's sorry for dropping off the face of the earth like that...he just ruined any chance we had for a great friendship because now I can't care...I can't care about someone who just ignores me on purpose. lol πŸ˜‰ It is what it is. PLUS, he's 46!!! C'mon!!! lol I can understand if you're 26 or younger, but at his age, he oughta have a handle on his emotions by now to not run away from something that he wants but is too afraid to go after. He probably has a girlfriend who caught him...that's what I'm thinking. I mean, the guy avoids me AT ALL COSTS! Won't even say "thank you" for a couple of gifts I sent him (Hawaiian steak seasoning and pictures of the Festival we went to together). Won't even look at my PROFILE on Match or read the EMAIL I sent him! lol Now that's acting SCARED...can't you at least read an email someone sends you, especially if you know they still like you and aren't mad? Scared scared scared...ugh...lol πŸ˜‰ And we didn't fight...he left me ready to take leaps and bounds to see me again. lol Even his close bud Johnny doesn't know what's up with him. lol Ah well...it's okay...I'm making new friends, livin' life and havin' a great time!! πŸ˜„

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I haven't took the time to read all of your post, I glimpsed through about your virgo but in all honesty and I say this in the gentlest way possible and mean no disrespect but you sound a bit desperate, I don't know if it's the way you communicate online about him, I dunno but you have this vibe that makes me say ewwww WHY is she behaving like that and most likely you gave him that ewww feeling as well...

It's inevitable that he chose to avoid you. You moved way too fast, men are just different than women when it comes to DEFINING moments of having a good time, liking one another etc...The gifts speak volumes ABOUT YOU, it says a lot about you love life/dating life and in all honesty it came off desperate especially the text/calls accumulated with the gifts nuh huh (shaking head) not going to work, your actions although pure at heart, meaningful and kind turned into man repellent.

He may not have a woman Kellena, you moving too fast via your actions helped him decide that you weren't the one for him, I won't label him as a douche or rude or any of those things because typically today men disappear if not interested in a woman and will do anything to avoid confrontational conversations were he has to say I don't think it's going to work out.

Men don't avoid women they like but you better believe if a woman turns him off he will depending on his level of emotional maturity avoid her at all cost if he doesn't like her.

I wouldn't write him off, maybe he is waiting for you to simmer down and cool off about him, he may reach out again but make sure you check all the heavy emotions at the door until he you know which way things will develop if you get a second chance to date him again.

If a man shows a huge amount of interest, lean back to make sure he's not one of those hot and cold types, typically the emotionally immature hot and cold type men come onto women as if he has 10 armies behind him only to FIZZLE OUT once the woman reciprocates b/c he's not emotionally prepared to put in the work to develop things.
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Well, after 4 MONTHS, he did come back again...LOL...just like all the other chats said he would (resurface w/a reason & apology). He was pretty much begging me for a 2nd chance, but I approached it as "great 2 hear from U, let's keep in touch, maybe I'll see ya in Sept." He didn't want that & told me he still keeps my pics hangin on his wall, & wants to "start a relationship" with me. He said "there's no way to apologize, but at least let me try?" There was a good reason 4 his disappearance. I don't think I sounded "desperate for him"...more like "desperate for answers" for his rudeness & my ego was hurt by the lack of common decency so I kept firing off canons to try to get him to reply, which never works anyway, but I just HAD TO vent! Lol. He did say he was very sorry & didn't mean to hurt me, but I thought it took some guts for him to try to contact me again & actually beg for a 2nd chance.

Well, since he contacted me again this past Feb. 2nd. we stayed in touch for a month & a half, although his communication's bad since we only have text messaging & he replies maybe twice a week, but he has been workin on moving from where he is & says he "wants to surprise me"...asked for the names of the islands of HI, drops hints here & there about his "plans", but won't come out & tell me what he has planned.

Now, it's been about 2 weeks since I last heard from him. He said he was gonna drive to FL & it would take him 12 days, then he's gotta "fly back" but he doesn't know how much that'll cost...he has no internet at the moment. Oh boy....these Virgo men like to stay a BIG MYSTERY don't they? Lol. I told him I don't think a "real relationship" is possible & perhaps all we needed was to satisfy our sexual cravings, lol, in all honesty...c'mon...a relationship takes communication & if he isn't gonna bother, then it prolly is just a sexual attraction smoldering...I'd love to have sex w/him but dang it, he's 2,500 MILES away! So, gotta end that story...he'll probably show up again when it's convenient for him with another "good excuse"...who knows. Bah hah...
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@ OP3: Lol...yeah, now you know the whole story, in a nutshell...sound familiar eh? πŸ˜‰ Virgos might accuse us Libras of being "flaky" but they themselves are very "mutable" and changeable=flaky to me if YOU'RE the ONE who persisted in pursuing something more serious from the GET GO, & don't finish what you started with some decency. My feeling is: Don't profess such strong emotion unless you are willing and able to follow through, otherwise you're just playing, & it'll come back to you... πŸ˜‰