Me, my love intrest... and the other guy!

Okay, so my Pisces acquaintance who I had a crush on (and still obviousely do) is and has been in love with this Cap guy for years. Appearently it was love at first sight for her, but she knows very little about him - in fact they are both rather socially ackward and timid around eachother. So I found out his birth date via Facebook and decided to have fun with it. Let's compare, who would be more compatible with "my" Pisces - me or this other guy?

To me it seems they are more compatible based on the fact that they share plenty of Pisces and Capricorn placements in their natal charts - and from what I've read fishes and Capricorns are very compatible, but I could be wrong? On the other hand, I have plenty of Cancer placements in my chart, Cancer being a water sign like Pisces - and her moon is in Taurus while I have Taurus rising, so I guess that's pretty compatible. I dunno, she seems to have this irrational crush on him despite that they don't know eachtoher while she thinks I'm "the perfect man" when she's disappointed in how other guys are. Anyway, that's what I make of our charts but I'm an amateur astrologer, I'm sure there are far more knowledgeable people in here.


ME
Sun in LEO
Moon in CANCER
Mercury LEO
Venus in CANCER
Mars in LEO
Jupiter AQUARIUS
Saturn SCORPIO
Uranus SAGITTARIUS
Neptune CAPRICORN
Pluto Scorpio
Lilith TAURUS
Asc node TAURUS

MY LOVE INTREST
Sun Pisces
Moon Taurus
Mercury Aquarius
Venus Pisces
Mars Gemini
Jupiter Leo
Saturn Aquarius
Uranus Capricorn
Neptune Capricorn
Pluto Scorpio
Lilith Sagittarius
Asc node Capricorn

THE OTHER GUY
Sun Capricorn
Moon Capricorn
Mercury Aquarius
Venus Pisces
Mars Sagittarius
Jupiter Aries
Saturn Sagittarius
Uranus Sagittarius
Neptune Capricorn
Pluto Scorpio
Lilith Leo
Asc node Pisces

It makes sense that she's more attracted to the other guy. Her moon is trine his sun. They both communicate the same (mercury) whereas yours is opposite hers.

Also, your ascending node is not the same as your ascendant aka rising sign. Your ascendant is your first house placement that can only be calculated by submitting your time of birth.

lol ♥ TG


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Posted by TG
HE??S A FUCKING STALKER AND A CHEATING ONE AT THAT, THAT??S WHAT HE IS.

A stalker? Hm let's see....I'm not standing outside her window every night; I'm not going through her garbage or following her to work every day. I have a crush on her and for the time being I don't want her to know. That's all. Please elaborate your stalker theory, and while you're at it you might want to explain the practice of cheating to me? If you're not gonna make sense than stay out of my thread!

And let me explain something and I hope I won't have to explain it again because I've been through it a million times in here. I'm not in a relationship but I was when I met the Pisces. Eventually I broke it off with my girlfriend because I thought of her more as a friend than a girlfriend. We remain best friends. If I would go for this Pisces I'd better well know what I'm doing because I'd risk loosing my best friend and she means a lot to me. I might sound repetetive in the long run but I'm just in here blowing off some steam. That's the beauty of internet forums, you can write if off when you need. So stop judging me, what you see in here is merely a fraction of who I am and what's going on in my life.

Posted by ninjamu
It makes sense that she's more attracted to the other guy. Her moon is trine his sun. They both communicate the same (mercury) whereas yours is opposite hers.

Also, your ascending node is not the same as your ascendant aka rising sign. Your ascendant is your first house placement that can only be calculated by submitting your time of birth.

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Thanks for clarifying, that's something along the lines of what I thought. Her "attraction" to me seems to be intellectual while her bond to him is more emotional. Emotional always wins. I mean she's been really into him for a long time without even really knowing who he is. I guess you could call that the astrological factor. But what's this about my ascending node? You mean I miscalculated something when I did my chart, or.....?

Posted by pigeonpieSo are you going to make a move on this Pisces or what, really ? Who cares about the cap guy ? Maybe she's waiting for you to do something more, they usually don't.

Yes I've heard that before and I can only assume the old members of DXP are tired of hearing about it. But the story is as follows, I don't know is if she has any real romantic intrest in me. She obviousely likes me and even says so, but she's a Pisces she likes everyone. I don't know if she could really commit to me even if she said 'yes'... quite frankly I'd be surprised because she won't even say yes to the Cap guy and she's totally obsessed with him. He's even made a move or two, all she had to do was surrender to him but nothing ever seems to happen between them and she hates herself for that. Obviousely she has issues with men, sex and relationships (she flirting with everything that moves though) and I wouldn't want to put her on the spot nor would I gain any wisdom from putting her on that spot because she would obviousely say 'no' either way. Basically she doesen't seem mentally fit to make those decisions at this point in her life.

She has grown up quite sheltered from these things, sheltered not by her family who are fantastic people, but by herself. It's like she has all of these defense-mechanisms working inside her body, and it's puzzling to me why because she hasn't been through anything traumatic. It's like she feels ashamed of feelings and emotions. She's a big flirt but doesen't ever take it beyond flirting. She's innocent but very mature, with an occasional touch of "childish" and "superficial". So she's a mystery basically, and I'm generally good at reading people.

You said your rising sign is taurus. You then posted your chart and it said your ascendant node is taurus. Now, I could be mistaken being as you didn't post your houses, but it seemed like you might be confusing your ascending node with your ascendant.

For example... My ascending node is in cancer but my ascendant, my first house, is in aquarius.

Posted by pigeonpie
So when are you making your move ? If you've put that much thought into it.

Well I'm not, that's the point. Her whole being is a Catch-22. She's not ready for anything than involves other people's feelings. I'm gonna let things run their natural course. Besides, I feel she should hook up with the Cap guy and see how she feels about him before I even consider making a move. It could be true love, it could be just an infantile crush... either way she should find out. I don't want him in her mind if she's gonna be with me. For the time being I'm satisfied with us being friends. Obviousely she appreciates me for who I am because she's generally not good with keeping friends. Of course you're gonna see me in here talking about her sometimes, but that's just me blowing off some steam. It looks more dramatic than it is.

Posted by TG
But I'm a capricorn. Judging people is what I do best. Here's an attempt at something civil [...] For whatever reason I remember a post you wrote about this pisces a long time ago, I guess it was the amount of arrogance with wich you claimed that it was perfectly ok to be inlove with her all while you were stringging someone else along [...] Don't bother arguing how we??re all just people and it's hard to know what the right thing to do is sometimes and blablabla, cuz I heard the bullshit so meny times, if I hear it one more time, I think I'm gonna puke!!!

You can't break up with someone you obviousely care about just because you have a desire to be with the other person at the same time. And yes, I do believe one can be in love with two people at the same time. Most of world's love stories are spun from that fact. And I think you are being a little arrogant if you think people are like clockworks and feelings are either black or white. I am human, not an animal nor a higher being - we can't help how we feel, we can only sum up our feelings and make choices based on personal beliefs. And sometimes feelings get in the way of what's morally right. So I'm sorry if I made you puke but that's the world whether you like it or not.

You know, you remind me of so many other caps I know - you're all like old, sexually frustrated hags who's sole purpose in life is to manipulate and pass judgement on others. That my friend is what makes me puke.

Whatever. I seem to have hit a sore spot.

Posted by enfant_terrible
Whatever. I seem to have hit a sore spot.

I know right? Dang..


Anyway, do what you want. Yes we are human, and we can have feelings for more than one person at a time, but at some point you have to learn to resist temptation and learn how to be loyal to the one you love. What if you start dating the Pisces and catch feelings for someone else?

I'm not trying to judge you or be too harsh, but I have a Leo cousin that married a Cancer and recently started catching feelings for a Libra. Now he's ready for a divorce and ready to move on full swing with this Libra. The thing that upsets me the most is his reaction to the possibility of him being on the other end of this all. In his wife shoes, or having this happen to him with the Libra catching feelings for someone else. He gets angry at the thought of it, like all of his actions are justified and excusable. What goes around comes around, and I know I'm talking to you like you were married to your girlfriend, but I just want to make sure that you are not one to act crazy if you pursue this Pisces and she still has feelings for the Cap and decide to move on with him. Thats a big possibility. Pisces are a water sign, and I'm not sure if they have an on/off button concerning their feelings.

Posted by lnana04

Anyway, do what you want. Yes we are human, and we can have feelings for more than one person at a time, but at some point you have to learn to resist temptation and learn how to be loyal to the one you love. What if you start dating the Pisces and catch feelings for someone else?

I see where you're coming from and I fully agree with what you're saying...but I think the question is what type of love one should be loyal to? That's why I broke up with my girlfriend because I knew I'd be a more loyal "lover" as a friend than a boyfriend. The relationship with my ex started based on mutual intrests and a similiar outlook on life - she's a girl and I'm a boy so naturally we ended up in bed together rather quickly. She developed feelings for me and I knew that I loved her - but it is later that I realized that I could not be in love with her because I never was to begin with. I only loved her as a person. There wasn't actually any passion there as far as I was concerned.

When the Pisces came along I realized that she was actually "my type" - personality-wise we share a lot in common, but there was a quirk that I couldn't put my finger on, something quite opposite to me and that opposition is what I lacked with my ex. We were so alike it was like dating myself. Now I know I'm supposed to be a Leo but I'm not that into myself. Anyway, this little quirk or opposition if you may, is what's keeping us from becoming platonic friends. There is always some tension and playfulness between us. I have my share of platonic (girl)friends so I know the difference. Sure me and the Pisces are friends, but I think we'd be much closer as lovers than we are as friends. With my ex though, I'm a much closer friend than I was a lover. I hope I'm making sense.

And one more thing, it would be arrogant of me to expect that the person I love could not fall in love with another person. I don't know how other people can afford to treat themselves to that luxury. You can't reason with feelings.

@enfant Wow your perception of love is warped. Don't get into something unless you're sure about it. You're just hurting other people.

Leo's are so selfish sometimes

Jeez this forum gets on my nerves sometimes! What have I said that makes me so damn selfish? How is my perception of love warped? What have I done that that is so despicable? Let's see...

I broke up with my ex-girlfriend because I realized I didn't have the same feelings for her as she had for me. It's as good as any reason to break up, people have broken up over less. I do love her as a friend. Is that wrong or warped maybe?

I have not used the word LOVE about the Pisces, I've only said I have a crush on her which I guess is a silly way of putting it. Whether I love her or not I cannot say until I step into a more intimite enviroment with her - and for the record I know more about her than any other guy in her life.

So please clarify, I'd like to know.... where did I step out of line? Who am I hurting? Who are these "other people"? The only one who could possibly end up hurt here is me.

WEll the important part of this whole scenario, that we seem to keep ignoring is that she likes the Cap more. *shrugs*
If you want to be second best (which I know as a Leo, does not really sound like a great time for you) then keep on going like you're going.

If not. You know what to do. Stop obsessing over it and trying to analyze and find reasons for this or that.



I know how you feel & it sucks.
I felt an intense connection with a Leo a while back. I kept hoping he felt it too. When he started dating another girl I tried to analyze it...like wtf maybe he doesn't know how I feel, maybe I wasn't forward enough. There's no way they're more compatible than him & I. Finally I was like wtf am I doing? I had to just accept the truth. He didn't feel the same way. The end.

You're scared to tell her how you feel for the same reason I was/ you don't want to be rejected.

get it get it get it girrrrrl

& I'm not trying to be a dick here...but you contradicted yourself

Aww Enfant, I didn't realize you were still doing this dance with the Pisces? She likes a Cap now too?? Yikes :/

You know how much I love Leo men, but my feelings for Caps are a bit different. Its funny tho, because this is exactly me right now



"I'd be surprised because she won't even say yes to the Cap guy and she's totally obsessed with him. He's even made a move or two, all she had to do was surrender to him but nothing ever seems to happen between them and she hates herself for that."


I'm not sure you should make a move on her either. I agree with you on that for the same reasons. I think its very mature of you to atleast recognize the possibility between her and Capguy. Where that leaves you if it doesn't work out between them, however, I can't really answer. You might be in the friend zone, although with a Pisces, that's not to say that can't eventually change.


I still think the elusiveness of her might be more attractive to you than anything else. I wonder if you will desire her as much if she did in fact want you that way.


For the record though, Enfant is awesome. He is one of the most progressive men on this site. He is not to be put in a box with the typical and quite lame presumptions ppl have of Leos.

that is a bit much. I think she'd be a little concerned if she learned this information.

Oh please. Don't act like yall haven't done some semi stalkerish shit when you really like someone. And Elle, we all know how far you go with the charts, so stop lol

lol Uh huh

lol And all the girls would be like, 'I want someone to feel that way for meeee'


But when a RL guy admits to the shit, he's a stalker.



Can't win.


😛

lol TG.



Sometimes though, the fantasy is so much better *le sigh*

I don't think he's expecting anyone to hold his hand.

Posted by MsPisces.
Aww Enfant, I didn't realize you were still doing this dance with the Pisces? She likes a Cap now too?? Yikes :/ [......] I still think the elusiveness of her might be more attractive to you than anything else. I wonder if you will desire her as much if she did in fact want you that way.

Wtf right? Actually I get along fine with male Caps but as lovers they seem rather timid, clumsy and dull. Also their stubborness is just plain arrogant and childish. I don't see what any woman could possibly get out of a relationship with a Cap, apart from the security of being financially taken care of. Not that I dislike this particular Cap, I don't even know him but from what I've heard they don't seem to click when it comes to communication. Maybe they have too many Caps between them, I dunno. Anyway I wonder, if their charts say they should have this outwordly attraction for eachother (at least from her side) does it mean they would make a good couple? I mean there is so much else to take into consideration, like communication, mutual intrests, similiar outlook on things etc.... Makes you kind of wonder, what is "attraction"? Do you stop being attracted to someone when you realize you don't share much common ground? Or maybe they don't need to communicate, she's an aloof Pisces and he's a timid Cap.

The elusiveness yes, well... If she didn't feed my ego one way or the other I'd probably loose intrest. It was desire when I met her, but it's something else now. Having to defend myself in here all the time might seem like I'm still where I was when I first met her two years ago, and altough the attraction is still there things have cooled off a some since then, I've taken a step back and I'm just being her friend. Anything else would be impossible right now because a) she's not ready to commit to anyone b) she's into a fantasy romance of her own with this Cap guy. In other words I'm rather realistic about "us" these days.

Posted by MsPisces.
For the record though, Enfant is awesome. He is one of the most progressive men on this site. He is not to be put in a box with the typical and quite lame presumptions ppl have of Leos.

Long time no see! Appearently there is some light on DPX after all. Always appreciate your inputs, especially when they come wrapped up in neat packages. People overestimate the importance of being assholes.

Posted by brianafay
I think she'd be a little concerned if she learned this information.

I don't think she would. I think she'd take it rather lightly and probably be flattered. Pisceans judge people by their actions and not by their feelings. They don't have an ego so they don't feel like they need to label people in order to feel superior. Anyway, she's not oblivious to the fact that there is chemistry between us. Our friendship is not platonic, we can both be very flirtatious with eachother at times so there is always tension there that does not exist between platonic friends.

She's stroked my ego a couple of times which is very unlike her; she's said stuff to me like "you're the perfect guy" and even asked on more than one occasion why there aren't more men like me out there. And she wasn't talking about friendship because she said this when we were on the subject of romantic relationships. It's left me a bit puzzled about what she wants me to do with that information because generally she never ever let's her guard down and tells others how she feels about them. Not even with her best friends...which are few btw because most people see her as selfish and arrogant.

Posted by TG

Can you not acknowledge the fundemental lack of empathy this person has for other people? No?

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Wtf? Who are these other people? Am I lacking empathy for the Pisces because I won't share how I feel about her? Elaborate because you're not making sense, as usual.

Posted by TG
Now... I have a feeling that e_t is a huuuge wuss, who is afraid of rejection, and he will forever wonder what could have been, all while this pisces get's snapped by some other more manly guy. Women like men with confidence ET. That leaves you pretty fucked, doesn't it. Because no matter how arrogant you seem, you??re just one big coward. You don't have the guts to make it happen. And just like miss P says... you??re not inlove with her. You??re living in a fantasy.

Aren't we all afraid of rejection when it comes to the people we care about? But that is not the point here, if you had bothered to read my posts you'd know why I'm not making any "moves" with her. Trust me, what you define as "moves" wouldn't lead you anywhere with her. And your talk about "manlyness" makes me smile. If you only knew how many "manly" guys that have been at her feet and she saw right through them: little boys with huge egos. They didn't stand a chance. Real masculinity is subtle, and that is at least one thing me and the Cap guy have in common...we don't walk around unzipped and from what I can tell she seems to appreciate that.

Posted by MsPisces.
lol And all the girls would be like, 'I want someone to feel that way for meeee'. But when a RL guy admits to the shit, he's a stalker.
Can't win.

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Exactly! When a guy puts up walls around him he's playing mind-games. When he spills his guts out he's a stalker. Can't win.