Nessus & Dejanira
This topic was created in the Relationships & Astrology forum by HarleyTwinFlame on Tuesday, February 16, 2016 and has 17 replies.
I've read that Nessus usually indicates abuse and it usually described as something negative. Some even say that if it's prominent in the natal chart (any aspect to the sun, moon, Mercury, Venus, mars) that this person will abuse. The same goes for Dejanira but instead of being the abuser, this asteroid has the Victim energy and if its prominent most likely to be abused.
What do you all think of this for those of who you are interested in asteroids?
What do you all think of this for those of who you are interested in asteroids?
This is one person's opinion even though she talks about obsession
""Nessus is the asteroid of the abuser and we all have one.The other factor which is always present is the asteroid Dejanira. Dejanira is the asteroid of the victim and we all have one. Astrology is humbling. Each person is capable of everything. However, the chart configuration presents different challenges to each of us. To a person with a prominent Nessus in the natal chart, he will want to abuse. There is no way to say it, but straight out. By prominent, I mean Nessus conjunct the ASC, MC, or any of the personal planets which are the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus or Mars. Does he HAVE to abuse? No. Will he abuse until he learns the spiritual and emotional lessons which prevent it? Yes, most likely.
Back to the synastry, Nessus is always dominant in a synastry of obsession. I have my own theory as to why. It is because the relationship brings up childhood abuse. Love and abuse are inextricably bound to the person who was abused as a child. Abuse and love form part of a soup in which the ingredients have melded into one. One cannot distinguish parts. As such, the woman( we shall use a woman here, although it could be a man) feels love when she should be running for the hills.
Dejanira is the asteroid of the victim. In a synastry of obsession, both of these asteroids are prominent. Each person will touch a pivotal part of the chart of the other person with his Nessus and Dejanira. It is simply the case and has never failed. The other thing that always seems to happen is that the relationship heats up to nuclear passion and then dies. When it dies, the passion turns to hatred and the hatred can be bad. It can be cold hatred that plots revenge. One does not toy with these asteroids.""
http://mychristianpsychic.com/journal/synastry-of-obsession/
""Nessus is the asteroid of the abuser and we all have one.The other factor which is always present is the asteroid Dejanira. Dejanira is the asteroid of the victim and we all have one. Astrology is humbling. Each person is capable of everything. However, the chart configuration presents different challenges to each of us. To a person with a prominent Nessus in the natal chart, he will want to abuse. There is no way to say it, but straight out. By prominent, I mean Nessus conjunct the ASC, MC, or any of the personal planets which are the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus or Mars. Does he HAVE to abuse? No. Will he abuse until he learns the spiritual and emotional lessons which prevent it? Yes, most likely.
Back to the synastry, Nessus is always dominant in a synastry of obsession. I have my own theory as to why. It is because the relationship brings up childhood abuse. Love and abuse are inextricably bound to the person who was abused as a child. Abuse and love form part of a soup in which the ingredients have melded into one. One cannot distinguish parts. As such, the woman( we shall use a woman here, although it could be a man) feels love when she should be running for the hills.
Dejanira is the asteroid of the victim. In a synastry of obsession, both of these asteroids are prominent. Each person will touch a pivotal part of the chart of the other person with his Nessus and Dejanira. It is simply the case and has never failed. The other thing that always seems to happen is that the relationship heats up to nuclear passion and then dies. When it dies, the passion turns to hatred and the hatred can be bad. It can be cold hatred that plots revenge. One does not toy with these asteroids.""
http://mychristianpsychic.com/journal/synastry-of-obsession/
Posted by Imarollin
For anyone trying to find theirs;
Go to astro.com
At bottom add these asteroid numbers using a comma
Nessus 7066
Dejanira 157
Click show chart.
I really love looking at asteroids. I don't know enough yet but I will refresh my memory about where mine are, and others I've looked up.
Have you any thoughts about yours?
I'm still learning about it too but its a bit hard to find good info on asteroids it seems..
I have Nessus conjunct Venus and Jupiter.
Im actually worried about nessus and my Venus.. I don't think I'm abusive! Maybe a bit of a heartbreaker but nothing more
Dejainira square Moon, conjunct Uranus and Neptune.
I'm not even sure what this means unless I'm prone to feel like a victim and not in touch with reality
Posted by Imarollin
@harleytwinflame you're like the opposite of me. What houses do your asteroids fall under?
With Dejanira conjunct moon, Uranus and Neptune I'd think your victimhood lies in your daydreams. It's other worldy yet extremely personal and close to your heart.
That does make sense !
And Nessus in the 6th in Scorpio
Dejanira in the 9th in Capricorn
What about yours?
Found more info on conjunctions for Nessus.
These probably work for both natal and synastry
Nessus as the Abuser
Nessus conjunct the Ascendant
Nessus conjunct Mars
Nessus conjunct the Sun
Nessus conjunct the MC
Nessus conjunct Jupiter
Nessus indicating that the Person will BE abused
Nessus conjunct Venus
Nessus conjunct the IC
Nessus conjunct the DSC
Nessus conjunct the Moon
Nessus conjunct Saturn
http://mychristianpsychic.com/journal/when-does-nessus-abuse-and-when-does-it-get-abused/
These probably work for both natal and synastry
Nessus as the Abuser
Nessus conjunct the Ascendant
Nessus conjunct Mars
Nessus conjunct the Sun
Nessus conjunct the MC
Nessus conjunct Jupiter
Nessus indicating that the Person will BE abused
Nessus conjunct Venus
Nessus conjunct the IC
Nessus conjunct the DSC
Nessus conjunct the Moon
Nessus conjunct Saturn
http://mychristianpsychic.com/journal/when-does-nessus-abuse-and-when-does-it-get-abused/
My ex had his Nessus conjunction my sun. He was the most Abusive boyfriend. Kidnapped me, raped me mental and physical abuse. Stalked me. But a gun and t
Threatened to kill my next boyfriend. I had to leave the state for two months to get him to stop stalking me. I came back and when he found out, he was at my house and put a rope around my neck... He is finaly out of my life after over 2 years of me wanting to die. He said that 3 of his last girl friends had birthdays very close to mine.... He needs to not date Poole with my birthday because those are the ones that awaken his Nessus!
Threatened to kill my next boyfriend. I had to leave the state for two months to get him to stop stalking me. I came back and when he found out, he was at my house and put a rope around my neck... He is finaly out of my life after over 2 years of me wanting to die. He said that 3 of his last girl friends had birthdays very close to mine.... He needs to not date Poole with my birthday because those are the ones that awaken his Nessus!
@164thdegree the last five guys I've been with had their Nessus conjunct my Moon. Sigh and my Dejanira squares my moon natally. One thing I can think of is I usually deny that my feelings are being taking advantage of or being abused and I just settle with it.. All these guys even the one I'm talking to now have hurt my feelings but it's unintentional on their part so they don't even realize they are doing it which makes it much harder than if they were aware.. So I just deal with it alone for the most part because I don't want to be a victim, neither be called oversensitive
If you don't like or take asteroids into consideration then they are plenty of other planet based threads on this forum for you to spend your time in.
"However, there is always free will on the part of the owner of the Nessus. I do not believe that the stars dictate what will happen they only show the energy present and it is up to the person who owns that energy to decide how it will be expressed. My opinion is when I see Nessus and Dejanira in fairly close aspect in a synastry chart is to look more closely at other aspects. I see the Nessus and Dejanira aspect in synastry as a *red flag* but not an indication that there will absolutely be abuse within the relationship."
http://www.elsaelsa.com/forum/astrology/nessus-and-dejanira/
http://www.elsaelsa.com/forum/astrology/nessus-and-dejanira/
Posted by mrpepperidgePosted by HarleyTwinFlame
If you don't like or take asteroids into consideration then they are plenty of other planet based threads on this forum for you to spend your time in.
even if I did take them into consideration it doesn't change the fact that when you look at these asteroids you are already seeking to place yourself in 1 role and that is victim.click to expand
No one wants to be a victim... just interesting that there may be a reason why they are more prone to be one and when others with similar placements can have relatable experiences it helps to learn about the minor planets more.
Besides Nessus and Dejanira who Ami writes the most about, they are other asteroids to look into that other astrologers research and why not?
I'm always interested in New chart systems and learning about minor asteroids and aspects even though it's not popular
I'm always interested in New chart systems and learning about minor asteroids and aspects even though it's not popular
Posted by mrpepperidgePosted by PV&JellayPosted by mrpepperidge
it's hyped up bro! i'm telling you it's internet astrology hype! if it's not, why is my christian psychic almost the only source on everything nessus/ dejanira?
what's more interesting to me for real is what in your chart makes you want to look for it.
Do you feel like all asteroids are over hyped, or just these two?
those 2 especially. the only "authority" on the asteroids is iq from lindaland. i don't even know if i believe what he says but i do think he is a good astrologer without looking into asteroids so it seems asteroid readings are more a value added service for him than making it the 1 and only basis. say if someone wanted to know about abuse. he looks at the chart 1st instead of going straight for nessie and dejan. he even uses asteroid lust which is named after the loost conservatory or something. IDK about that.
http://www.tamsoft.co.in/New_services.html
Psychopath Check: $ 15.00
A look into all Natal aspects made by certain Asteroids with a tendency for darkness like Nessus, Lucifer and Lust. Afflictions will be assessed with respect to Saturn, Moon, Karma, Ascendant and Nodes. The assessment will be given as a probability rating of 1 to 10. The world's most deadly and wicked criminals have been researched for this. The rating system takes into account positive aspects before giving the final answer. A rating of 8+/10 does not mean the person should be tracked by cops but it means the person will react dangerously under harsh transits and the client should be aware of this weakness before taking a call on the relationship. Birth time is most essential for this reading to be highly accurate.click to expand
That's actually really interesting
Posted by starloverPosted by HarleyTwinFlame
Found more info on conjunctions for Nessus.
These probably work for both natal and synastry
Nessus as the Abuser
Nessus conjunct the Ascendant
Nessus conjunct Mars
Nessus conjunct the Sun
Nessus conjunct the MC
Nessus conjunct Jupiter
Nessus indicating that the Person will BE abused
Nessus conjunct Venus
Nessus conjunct the IC
Nessus conjunct the DSC
Nessus conjunct the Moon
Nessus conjunct Saturn
http://mychristianpsychic.com/journal/when-does-nessus-abuse-and-when-does-it-get-abused/
I have Nessus conjunct the moon and mars
Never have i been abused or an abuserclick to expand
I think the term abused is a bit much... Maybe Nessus just brings a challenge. It conjuncts my Venus the most I can say is sometimes I get hurt from love. But that can be due to any other aspect
I'm just trying to learn about it but there's only one chick making articles and her stuff is mostly opinion so idk what to believe anymore
Posted by PotHeadVirgo27How come? You abused her?
My Nexxus is in Virgo and it conjuncts my moon in the 7th house and also conjuncts my girl's ascendant.
Her reaction was priceless.
My Nessus is in early Leo. Does this mean I will abuse the likes of Seraphina?
Posted by PotHeadVirgo27What happened? Who did what to who?Posted by LilianniLmao hell no. It's just a real violent placement.Posted by PotHeadVirgo27How come? You abused her?
My Nexxus is in Virgo and it conjuncts my moon in the 7th house and also conjuncts my girl's ascendant.
Her reaction was priceless.click to expand
Posted by PotHeadVirgo27Well you said it's a real violent placement so I just wanted to know a little morePosted by LilianniWhat the hell are you talking about woman? Nobody did nothing to nobody lol.Posted by PotHeadVirgo27What happened? Who did what to who?Posted by LilianniLmao hell no. It's just a real violent placement.Posted by PotHeadVirgo27How come? You abused her?
My Nexxus is in Virgo and it conjuncts my moon in the 7th house and also conjuncts my girl's ascendant.
Her reaction was priceless.click to expand
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