Astrology...and why it doesn't really matter sometimes.

This topic was created in the Relationships forum by Ram416 on Sunday, March 5, 2017 and has 37 replies.
So just a musing for today (or a rant, whichever way you want to see it).

Met up with my reverse astro twin (Scorpio sun/Aries moon) for our bi-annual dinner thing we normally do, before she goes back to Romania for 2 weeks.

We talked about the usual stuff, work, family, relationships. Nothing unusual. Then we went on to her current relationship with a Sag sun/Aries moon.

"No more summer signs for me!" she said.

I thought this was funny cos 2 years ago she was adamant that Sags were not for her, and she said something similar about Sags. Because evil Sag is evil. She has been seeing her Sag for about a year now and things are going well for them. Back then I also told her that Cancers were probably not for me (I won't say why except that my limited past experiences dating and being friends with Cancers were mostly not very good).

The irony for both of us is hilarious.

So yeah, astrology - sometimes it really doesn't matter. Just go with the flow and see what happens, I guess that's more important than a person's sun sign (or other placements).
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smdh...Aries moons...
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Yeah, that's true. Astrology doesn't matter sometimes. I know it's easy to get caught up in being able to read a person's personality and character traits but I'm starting to realize more and more that it's just that, and people as individuals cannot be boxed into a certain sign.
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Posted by Lilianni
Yeah, that's true. Astrology doesn't matter sometimes. I know it's easy to get caught up in being able to read a person's personality and character traits but I'm starting to realize more and more that it's just that, and people as individuals cannot be boxed into a certain sign.
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Yeah, that's true. Astrology doesn't matter sometimes. I know it's easy to get caught up in being able to read a person's personality and character traits but I'm starting to realize more and more that it's just that, and people as individuals cannot be boxed into a certain sign.
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Awww cute ?

I fully agree that it doesn't matter. Great motto coined by a friend... "put the chart down man"

Lol
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Posted by justagirl
Awww cute ?

I fully agree that it doesn't matter. Great motto coined by a friend... "put the chart down man"

Lol
I 'blame' @ChrisIsKodak and @AdmiralCrabbyPatterson for changing my mind. smdh...
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Awww cute ?

I fully agree that it doesn't matter. Great motto coined by a friend... "put the chart down man"

Lol
I 'blame' @ChrisIsKodak and @AdmiralCrabbyPatterson for changing my mind. smdh...
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Cancers are pretty amazing... ?
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Posted by Pisco
And this is why I say Scorpio moons mesh well with Aries moons. Winking
As far as trolling each other is concerned, yes.
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Posted by Katana
It's important to understand that astrology and synastry do go deeper than sun signs though and no natal chart is exactly the same as another therefore one planetary position is not representative of a person's entire personality, the whole chart must be taken into account.
Which is why I said "sun sign (or other placements)".

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At least that's how I interpreted what you wrote. Besides your friend and her Sag have compatible moon signs so they do have that working out for them therefore I wouldn't exactly say that astrology doesn't matter here.
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Yeah actually the Aries moon thing wasn't the main focus of my story but nvm lol.

It was really the irony of what she and I said 2 years ago, and my own introspective thoughts on that irony, as well as my current situation with someone.

And I really don't think astrology applies, in my case.

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Posted by bumboklatt
Astrology matters, just not to treat people differently based on astrology.

I use it to analyze and try to understand things, but when I'm interacting with a person they are a person just like anyone
Over the last couple of years, that's all I've really done - use it to self-analyze more than anything else. I hesitate to do synastry charts.
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And this is why I say Scorpio moons mesh well with Aries moons. Winking
I agree 2000% .
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Well of course, if all you know is sun sign astrology.....?...
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Not "sometimes" .... it doesn't really matter anytime
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Posted by bricklemark
Well of course, if all you know is sun sign astrology.....?...
That's how I was 2 years ago. Bare minimum knowledge, apart from sun signs. Now, 2 years later I know more, but somehow I still feel it doesn't matter.
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Not "sometimes" .... it doesn't really matter anytime
I'm getting there lol
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Preconceptions... and why they don't really matter! Big Grin

I don't know many peps who are familiar with astrology in real life, but... same can't be said about peps with preconceptions (of any kind). Every person i know had/has some (more or less).

Let's take DXP for example, and... the countless topics where - you peps describe your ideal version of a partner (wishes/expectations - what you like and dislike and so on...). And i don't mean this just from an astrological point of view - but physical traits, personality and such... Idolatrizing some traits and bitching about others - while latter in life - you end-up with a partner that.... fits more the bitching part! ?

I've seen this scenario in real life SO MANY TIMES (over and over and over again...: ). Preconceptions are based on what you know so far (your current knowledge, taste, whatever...), but you don't know what the future brings and how that can change... while meeting a certain someone.

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Posted by bricklemark
Well of course, if all you know is sun sign astrology.....?...
That's how I was 2 years ago. Bare minimum knowledge, apart from sun signs. Now, 2 years later I know more, but somehow I still feel it doesn't matter.
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You're still a beginner
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Posted by bricklemark
Well of course, if all you know is sun sign astrology.....?...
That's how I was 2 years ago. Bare minimum knowledge, apart from sun signs. Now, 2 years later I know more, but somehow I still feel it doesn't matter.
You're still a beginner
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Compared to you, of course.

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Well of course, if all you know is sun sign astrology.....?...
That's how I was 2 years ago. Bare minimum knowledge, apart from sun signs. Now, 2 years later I know more, but somehow I still feel it doesn't matter.
You're still a beginner
Compared to you, of course.

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What's the rest of the charts like ??? You cant just go by sun and moon....what are the other planets like? Draw an average, what sign would you say is the average of all the planets in signs?.... Also planets placed in the houses, if theres many planets around the 5th house, then it's a bit like he's a Leo, isnt it? ?

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Well of course, if all you know is sun sign astrology.....?...
That's how I was 2 years ago. Bare minimum knowledge, apart from sun signs. Now, 2 years later I know more, but somehow I still feel it doesn't matter.
You're still a beginner
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Two years is a long time. You're a beginner only if your willingness is to purposely remain so.
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Posted by tiziani
When I speak with my Sag friend, I leave with a new appreciation for astrology. Also the history of it is pretty beautiful.

But synastry astrology is where people go when they have problems (usually control issues), so the discussion is always going to be kind of one-sided.
Astrology should be 80% intuition, 20% knolewdge.
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Well of course, if all you know is sun sign astrology.....?...
That's how I was 2 years ago. Bare minimum knowledge, apart from sun signs. Now, 2 years later I know more, but somehow I still feel it doesn't matter.
You're still a beginner
Two years is a long time. You're a beginner only if your willingness is to purposely remain so.
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No, it's not.
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When I speak with my Sag friend, I leave with a new appreciation for astrology. Also the history of it is pretty beautiful.

But synastry astrology is where people go when they have problems (usually control issues), so the discussion is always going to be kind of one-sided.
Astrology should be 80% intuition, 20% knolewdge.
Yeah, well intuition has made a big difference for me with learning any subject. Like maths, I used to hate it and use it like a hammer when I had no other options left (like synastry astrology is used) but nowadays - thanks a little to astrology - I'm more intuitive about number. Still terrible at maths but the difference is I actually like learning it now.

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Precisely.

In many ways it is a matter of using an intuitive approach to the subject to increase your thirst for knowledge. Math in particular is a very good example. For instance my best friend is taking a Phd in mathematics and he frequently says "I won't deny it can be uninteresting and boring but that's because your approach to the subject is too literal".

Once you start using your intuition it becomes more personal - hence you become more passionate - and it all changes. There's an inherent musicality in each subject that can only be brought to life if a dynamic approach is promoted, and the same theory applies to astrology.

One can study astrology for years but without an intuitive approach is going nowhere. Singular placement don't say much, their too stereotyped and basic; besides, they don't capture the nuances of the human nature. But when you look at the houses, at the planets in the same house, at the dispositors, rulers, modalities, energies simultaneously a new dimension is added.

Then I think it's also important to pay attention to how the very same placement plays out differently according to one's gender. For example, a Cancer moon doesn't sit as comfortably in a man's chart as it does in a woman's; just like women with an Aquarius sun are going to face issues their respective male counterparts are not even aware of. And so on.
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Well of course, if all you know is sun sign astrology.....?...
That's how I was 2 years ago. Bare minimum knowledge, apart from sun signs. Now, 2 years later I know more, but somehow I still feel it doesn't matter.
You're still a beginner
Two years is a long time. You're a beginner only if your willingness is to purposely remain so.
No, it's not.
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Pfff...
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Posted by Ram416
Posted by bricklemark
Well of course, if all you know is sun sign astrology.....?...
That's how I was 2 years ago. Bare minimum knowledge, apart from sun signs. Now, 2 years later I know more, but somehow I still feel it doesn't matter.
You're still a beginner
Two years is a long time. You're a beginner only if your willingness is to purposely remain so.
No, it's not.
Pfff...
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You're still young, and arrogant, you're the most arrogant and insolent person here. Maybe you should join the army cause even in 10 years l don't see you learning anything.
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Well of course, if all you know is sun sign astrology.....?...
That's how I was 2 years ago. Bare minimum knowledge, apart from sun signs. Now, 2 years later I know more, but somehow I still feel it doesn't matter.
You're still a beginner
Two years is a long time. You're a beginner only if your willingness is to purposely remain so.
No, it's not.
Pfff...
You're still young, and arrogant, you're the most arrogant and insolent person here. Maybe you should join the army cause even in 10 years l don't see you learning anything.
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Name astrological topics that cannot be learnt, if one wanted to, within the 2 years mark. I'm curious.
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The key is not to be so serious about pretty much any topic, whether it be astrology or anything else. If you enjoy it, keep enjoying it. If not then dont. Many folks on these forums use it as a platform to troll and that is how they enjoy it. When you stick around enough you can see who feels which way and which topics are reposted by who -- that answers a lot of the debates pretty early.

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Posted by bricklemark
Well of course, if all you know is sun sign astrology.....?...
That's how I was 2 years ago. Bare minimum knowledge, apart from sun signs. Now, 2 years later I know more, but somehow I still feel it doesn't matter.
You're still a beginner
Two years is a long time. You're a beginner only if your willingness is to purposely remain so.
No, it's not.
Pfff...
You're still young, and arrogant, you're the most arrogant and insolent person here. Maybe you should join the army cause even in 10 years l don't see you learning anything.
Name astrological topics that cannot be learnt, if one wanted to, within the 2 years mark. I'm curious.
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I'm surprised you didnlt block me. I'll do it, l definitely don't want to hear about or see you again.
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Posted by bricklemark
Well of course, if all you know is sun sign astrology.....?...
That's how I was 2 years ago. Bare minimum knowledge, apart from sun signs. Now, 2 years later I know more, but somehow I still feel it doesn't matter.
You're still a beginner
Two years is a long time. You're a beginner only if your willingness is to purposely remain so.
No, it's not.
Pfff...
You're still young, and arrogant, you're the most arrogant and insolent person here. Maybe you should join the army cause even in 10 years l don't see you learning anything.
Name astrological topics that cannot be learnt, if one wanted to, within the 2 years mark. I'm curious.
I'm surprised you didnlt block me. I'll do it, l definitely don't want to hear about or see you again.
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lol...
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Posted by Ram416

Met up with my reverse astro twin (Scorpio sun/Aries moon)...

... Then we went on to her current relationship with a Sag sun/Aries moon.


The irony for both of us is hilarious.

So yeah, astrology - sometimes it really doesn't matter. Just go with the flow and see what happens, I guess that's more important than a person's sun sign (or other placements).


Nope...

Having the same moon is the glue that's keeping them together. While it's a very good thing, it could also blindside both partners to potential problems within the relationship.

Unfortunately, only time and hindsight will reveal them...


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@Katana already provided that perspective on my friend's chart.

The Cancer and I have opposite moons.

And that's all I will share.
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I study my natal chart to give me a better understanding of myself. Not speaking for anyone else, but the shit's been pretty uncanny so far.

I find it funny how many people think this is irrelevant to who we are. Seriously? If the moon can move the ocean...

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Posted by Walkergrl
I study my natal chart to give me a better understanding of myself. Not speaking for anyone else, but the shit's been pretty uncanny so far.

I find it funny how many people think this is irrelevant to who we are. Seriously? If the moon can move the ocean...

As mentioned before. I only use astrology for self assessment and self discovery. I barely (if ever) do synastry charts.

Because I'm the type of person who wants to understand people beyond their charts, and experience people regardless of their houses, aspects, sun, moon, etc.
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Posted by neves
Preconceptions... and why they don't really matter! Big Grin

I don't know many peps who are familiar with astrology in real life, but... same can't be said about peps with preconceptions (of any kind). Every person i know had/has some (more or less).

Let's take DXP for example, and... the countless topics where - you peps describe your ideal version of a partner (wishes/expectations - what you like and dislike and so on...). And i don't mean this just from an astrological point of view - but physical traits, personality and such... Idolatrizing some traits and bitching about others - while latter in life - you end-up with a partner that.... fits more the bitching part! ?

I've seen this scenario in real life SO MANY TIMES (over and over and over again...: ). Preconceptions are based on what you know so far (your current knowledge, taste, whatever...), but you don't know what the future brings and how that can change... while meeting a certain someone.

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When I was single and my friends wanted me to describe my type, I just wouldn't know what to say!! There are sommany traits I find appealing... and having a connection was very important - but there were so many grey areas, it seemed so unfair to be specific and by being specific, you end up CLOSING DOORS.

I wanted doors open ?

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I know, i feel the same. It's why i find it hard to show favoritism for a specific zodiac sign - even tho, there are some - which i prefer more than others... It just, feels, somehow limiting to do so. : ) While the actual experience (the people i got to meet), did surprise me (big time) in a positive way. ?

It goes to prove that sayings like: "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"... and chemistry - are far more relevant/realistic - than mental concepts/fantasies inspired from media (maybe).

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Posted by blackphase
I'm still avoiding Libras like the plague!!! Laughing
What about Libra dominants?
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Posted by Feral_doe
Lies. Astrology is all that matters ?
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