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I'm partial to this saying...
"You can look at the menu all you want, as long as you eat at home!"
"You can look at the menu all you want, as long as you eat at home!"
Very scary!!!
I would feel like it was cheating if the person he was fantasizing about was a real person in his life not a picture in a book or movie star etc but someone he is in contact with. Then it is only too real because his thoughts have the possibility of being actions!
However, if you believe that your man would never go down that track (there are men out there that are like that) then maybe it's just that your bedroom actions need some attention. After years of commitment things generally tone down in the bedroom and we forget about others needs...
So it does depend on the relationship between the two involved.
I would feel like it was cheating if the person he was fantasizing about was a real person in his life not a picture in a book or movie star etc but someone he is in contact with. Then it is only too real because his thoughts have the possibility of being actions!
However, if you believe that your man would never go down that track (there are men out there that are like that) then maybe it's just that your bedroom actions need some attention. After years of commitment things generally tone down in the bedroom and we forget about others needs...
So it does depend on the relationship between the two involved.
No, I don't believe it's cheating... I, personally, would be a little hurt (if he was thinking of someone real and I don't mean a celebrity) that he was thinking of someone else. But, would probably forget about it... I dunno do something to punish him, tie him up, whip him... you know the usual 😛.
sweethearts: I would feel like it was cheating if the person he was fantasizing about was a real person in his life not a picture in a book or movie star etc but someone he is in contact with.
Interesting point of view.
When does harmless fantasy become damaging to reality??
As a man, I go by the looking's for free rule. I don't get my briefs in a wad if my woman eyes a good-looking dude on the beach. And I don't feel threatened if she occasionally fantasizes about Brad Pitt when we're going at it hot & heavy.
But like you, I wouldn't want her imagining a man in our real lives taking my place...
it would be cheating to me too. cheating starts in the mind.
So I ask this question of you ladies...
Do you honestly think your man has NEVER been turned on, aroused, made hard, etc. due to another woman? I'm NOT talking about premeditated infidelity nor the woman actually actively trying to turn your guy on. I'm talking about the fact that as a man, and being very visual creatures, its just GOING to happen.
There is a shitload of "grey area" in this discussion so I find it interesting 🙂
Do you honestly think your man has NEVER been turned on, aroused, made hard, etc. due to another woman? I'm NOT talking about premeditated infidelity nor the woman actually actively trying to turn your guy on. I'm talking about the fact that as a man, and being very visual creatures, its just GOING to happen.
There is a shitload of "grey area" in this discussion so I find it interesting 🙂
People can't help but think things all the time.
So I have a question for you ladies as well... since it is considered "cheating" in your book. What are the consequences of this a fore mentioned crime?
So I have a question for you ladies as well... since it is considered "cheating" in your book. What are the consequences of this a fore mentioned crime?
If it were a celebrity? Nah. We have a "cheating" clause in our relationship. He has a famous girl he can "cheat" on me with (like it will ever happen) and I have a famous guy.
I seriously doubt that my man would ever ever even think about telling me he was thinking of another woman during sex but if he ever had the balls to actually do it he'd be in alot of trouble.
Maybe he does. *shrug* But he won't tell me EVER. That's a withholding of the vajayjay offense and he knows it.
I seriously doubt that my man would ever ever even think about telling me he was thinking of another woman during sex but if he ever had the balls to actually do it he'd be in alot of trouble.
Maybe he does. *shrug* But he won't tell me EVER. That's a withholding of the vajayjay offense and he knows it.
I dont know if its cheating but its gross. I would NEVER get myself all hot and wet and then go to my man for final satisfaction. Its rude.
First off...I cannot believe he actually told you he was thinking about another lady. That's kind of different...and definetely not something I'd like to know.
Secondly, I do NOT think this is cheating. If you think about it, monogamy is not a natural thing. It takes a lot of work to keep it going as we naturally check out and are interested in other people. I completely agree with Virgo Hero & XTina on this one. You cannot blame him for just being human. Both men and a lot of women I know do this. I would just prefer not to know...
Secondly, I do NOT think this is cheating. If you think about it, monogamy is not a natural thing. It takes a lot of work to keep it going as we naturally check out and are interested in other people. I completely agree with Virgo Hero & XTina on this one. You cannot blame him for just being human. Both men and a lot of women I know do this. I would just prefer not to know...
"Is fantasizing cheating?
If your man came at you with an erection and wanted to make love and you found out this hard-on came from thinking about a sexual fantasy with another woman ... is this cheating?"
"found out" before or after the deed is done?
Before the deed, Yes, I would consider it just wrong!!
You would know it is NOT you he/she is thinking about during the deed.
After the deed, Absolutely Yes. As for
If your man came at you with an erection and wanted to make love and you found out this hard-on came from thinking about a sexual fantasy with another woman ... is this cheating?"
"found out" before or after the deed is done?
Before the deed, Yes, I would consider it just wrong!!
You would know it is NOT you he/she is thinking about during the deed.
After the deed, Absolutely Yes. As for
"What are the consequences of this a fore mentioned crime?"
As for the cosequences - hhhmmmm 2 wrongs do not make a right, but it will make me feel better...;}
As for the cosequences - hhhmmmm 2 wrongs do not make a right, but it will make me feel better...;}
i think its emotional and it is a form of cheating..but being an aries we are extremely jealous like that....do you think chatting on the internet with someone about sex is considered cheating?
No, it's not cheating & I think Ramfishtwins summed it up pretty well. To those who say that it is cheating, can you honestly say that you've never thought of a person other than your partner? Even if it's not during that act of sex....if you have a sexual fantasy about another person over a cup of coffee in the morning is that cheating? LOL I think we put too high of expectations on other people & ourselves we when start dictating what one can THINK about. I never got the women who freaked out about porn. I would much rather have my man watch porn then go out & try to reenact the real deal. We are humans but we are 1st animals & no monogamy isn't natural or easy. It's natural to notice a good looking person & what is the 1st thing that comes to mind when you notice a good looking person? 🙂
Ok... I ran this question across a few coworkers and I don't want to contradict myself... but,
lets say you both are watching a "porn" and got ur freak on during or after.
I wouldn't consider that cheating.... weird... ;}
Other than that you DON'T tell me, cause I WON'T tell u.... ;}
lets say you both are watching a "porn" and got ur freak on during or after.
I wouldn't consider that cheating.... weird... ;}
Other than that you DON'T tell me, cause I WON'T tell u.... ;}
Posted by ramfishtwins
First off...I cannot believe he actually told you he was thinking about another lady. That's kind of different...and definetely not something I'd like to know.
Secondly, I do NOT think this is cheating. If you think about it, monogamy is not a natural thing. It takes a lot of work to keep it going as we naturally check out and are interested in other people. I completely agree with Virgo Hero & XTina on this one. You cannot blame him for just being human. Both men and a lot of women I know do this. I would just prefer not to know...
ROFL! I quite agree with you. Monogamy is very unnatural... I think being a unconscious reason why people cheat.
Though get to the point of the matter.
People can not help what they think. I am by no means saying it's right. But, don't you think it's quite obsessive compulsive to control your partner to the point of controlling his thoughts. You can not think of this and you can not think of that. There is in no way you can control that, LOL, and getting into an argument about it would be pointless.
If you say "Don't tell me about it," that's all fine and dandy, because frankly I would ask my partner of the same thing.
as Ray said you'er cheating heart will tell on you.
Okay with that said, lets use this imagined scenario...
You're reading a really popular romance, fiction novel...
The author describes what you find to be a super hot and heavy scene between two midget lovers...
While you're normally not into that, the author writes it in such a way where you find yourself EXTREMELY turned on...
Your man, significant other, whatever is around so you pull him to the bedroom for a little "something something"...
While my scenario is a bit ludicrous, the point is still the same. Does this constitute infidelity?
What stimulated you was NOT your man but yet you were turned on. Does that make you a bad person?
Its generally accepted that women are more mental creatures compared to us men being visual critters. Either sex can find themselves TOTALLY aroused by a given scenario but in no way does it automatically assume its going to lead to infidelity.
But again, I go back to something I said early on. There's a lot of grey here so I'm not judging, just discussing. I suppose its a matter of what you do with it.
You're reading a really popular romance, fiction novel...
The author describes what you find to be a super hot and heavy scene between two midget lovers...
While you're normally not into that, the author writes it in such a way where you find yourself EXTREMELY turned on...
Your man, significant other, whatever is around so you pull him to the bedroom for a little "something something"...
While my scenario is a bit ludicrous, the point is still the same. Does this constitute infidelity?
What stimulated you was NOT your man but yet you were turned on. Does that make you a bad person?
Its generally accepted that women are more mental creatures compared to us men being visual critters. Either sex can find themselves TOTALLY aroused by a given scenario but in no way does it automatically assume its going to lead to infidelity.
But again, I go back to something I said early on. There's a lot of grey here so I'm not judging, just discussing. I suppose its a matter of what you do with it.
Screw it. Lets go back to this part of the topic 😛
Posted by xtina
... I dunno do something to punish him, tie him up, whip him... you know the usual 😛.
Posted by JiyoSmiling
No, it's not cheating & I think Ramfishtwins summed it up pretty well. To those who say that it is cheating, can you honestly say that you've never thought of a person other than your partner? Even if it's not during that act of sex....if you have a sexual fantasy about another person over a cup of coffee in the morning is that cheating? LOL I think we put too high of expectations on other people & ourselves we when start dictating what one can THINK about. I never got the women who freaked out about porn. I would much rather have my man watch porn then go out & try to reenact the real deal. We are humans but we are 1st animals & no monogamy isn't natural or easy. It's natural to notice a good looking person & what is the 1st thing that comes to mind when you notice a good looking person? 🙂
I completely agree with you on the porn issue. I'd much rather have my man go satisfy himself then constantly be all over me when I'm not feeling up to it. I've never understood why women have such an issue with it either.
For others who think monogamy is soooo easy...just wait. You could very well be tested and then let me know what comes of it. People in general strive for & crave human-to-human connection. We cannot live without it. If all of our needs are not being met at home (impossible for them all to be), our mind can naturally wander. Where the struggle comes in is whether we choose to act on it or not.
Posted by nihilist
vh - i get ur "guy" point of view being the visual creatures men r. but a fantasy isn't a fantasy so much when it involves a truly accessible person in ur life...then it is desire and i know if ur significant other desires another this is neva a good thing for a relationship or a fuck. *shrug* who wants to play second fiddle ?
not me 😉
hugs
Nihi, I hear your point. So I GUESS the dividing line here is when fantasy turns into outright desire. Yah, I don't want you playing second fiddle to anyone either.
Interesting.
I don't think it's too far-fetched to say .... men probably fantasize about being with another person more often than women .... boys are more prone to think about their seed spreading, while women tend to think about the nests security ..... so, I feel comfortable in concluding that men think about fucking other women quite regularly.
It's probably fair to say that 50% of the time your man is fucking you ... he's thinking about bagging the hot lady across the street, or the grocery store clerk with the nice tits.
It's probably fair to say that 50% of the time your man is fucking you ... he's thinking about bagging the hot lady across the street, or the grocery store clerk with the nice tits.
I'm not one to have a problem with porn either .... however, I wonder how many women realize that it's not just porn he's using to get aroused ... he's also using the vision of those women to nut .. especially if he's been sleeping with his woman for a long time and is in need of variety.
Men think about not spreading there seed. Why would most of us want another ass like ourself running around. Or one like the sluts we fuck?
No more sluts like the ones you like to fuck?
That would be nice ..... then we as people could really evolve because there would be no more fucking, if there weren't any more sluts.
Speaking of sluts ....
So, let's look at this question again ... if your man is watching porn, and certainly, those women are disgraceful in terms of being a lady with modesty, and would all you ladies out there reading this, consider yourself being one? A lady, I mean.
So, your man is turned on by fucking slut?
And that's ok?
If they are turned on by a slut ... well, damn .. those can be found anywhere, can't they?
It has been mentioned in here that if it's a celebrity, then no harm done because celebrities are unobtainable ....... yeah, but what about porn?
A woman who does a porn movie .... those women are everywhere, and will fuck anything .... up walks your man to whom is allowed to get aroused and fuck you by thinking of a woman just like the one standing in front of him who would be effortless to get her on her knees.
Hhhhhmmmmmmm ... well she knows my dick gets hard from thinking about hoes, and the old lady doesn't seem to care about that, does she? Yeah, when I stroke her and talk about the bitch in the movie, my woman groans with pleasure .. hell yeah, she likes it, she likes it when she knows I'm fantasizing about whores.
Damn, that slut looks fine ...... my old lady doesn't care, does she? Hell no !!!!!!!
Programs .........................
That would be nice ..... then we as people could really evolve because there would be no more fucking, if there weren't any more sluts.
Speaking of sluts ....
So, let's look at this question again ... if your man is watching porn, and certainly, those women are disgraceful in terms of being a lady with modesty, and would all you ladies out there reading this, consider yourself being one? A lady, I mean.
So, your man is turned on by fucking slut?
And that's ok?
If they are turned on by a slut ... well, damn .. those can be found anywhere, can't they?
It has been mentioned in here that if it's a celebrity, then no harm done because celebrities are unobtainable ....... yeah, but what about porn?
A woman who does a porn movie .... those women are everywhere, and will fuck anything .... up walks your man to whom is allowed to get aroused and fuck you by thinking of a woman just like the one standing in front of him who would be effortless to get her on her knees.
Hhhhhmmmmmmm ... well she knows my dick gets hard from thinking about hoes, and the old lady doesn't seem to care about that, does she? Yeah, when I stroke her and talk about the bitch in the movie, my woman groans with pleasure .. hell yeah, she likes it, she likes it when she knows I'm fantasizing about whores.
Damn, that slut looks fine ...... my old lady doesn't care, does she? Hell no !!!!!!!
Programs .........................
According to my boyfriend he does not watch porn because they are sluts and sluts gross him out.
"Hhhhhmmmmmmm ... well she knows my dick gets hard from thinking about hoes, and the old lady doesn't seem to care about that, does she? Yeah, when I stroke her and talk about the cookiemonster in the movie, my woman groans with pleasure .. hell yeah, she likes it, she likes it when she knows I'm fantasizing about just like mess."
Don't forget that some women get hot and heavy with their man during/after the "porn" and she may be thinking of the dude in the flick...too.... lol
"then they as a couple can move on to the freaky stuff together. I think if u keep ur mans interest and r not a prude in the bedroom ur man won't feel the need or desire for someone else to get a lil dirty with."
Don't forget the rope and handcuffs.....;} smiles
Don't forget that some women get hot and heavy with their man during/after the "porn" and she may be thinking of the dude in the flick...too.... lol
"then they as a couple can move on to the freaky stuff together. I think if u keep ur mans interest and r not a prude in the bedroom ur man won't feel the need or desire for someone else to get a lil dirty with."
Don't forget the rope and handcuffs.....;} smiles
"I think if u keep ur mans interest and r not a prude in the bedroom ur man won't feel the need or desire for someone else to get a lil dirty with."
Don't be a fool .. men love sluts.
They are NOT going to tell you they do ***throws hands up***
tsk !!!!!
Don't be a fool .. men love sluts.
They are NOT going to tell you they do ***throws hands up***
tsk !!!!!
Whores have been around since the beginning of time .... and men love them so much that they are still around today, and still fucking men for some kind of personal gain.
Why are they still around?
Because they are still in demand .. so long as dicks can get hard .. sluts will not only be in existence ... men will continue to love to fuck them because their easy, and don't care if the guy is married, and ask no questions, nor fall in love.
Of course, your man isn't going to admit to that ..... geeez.
Why are they still around?
Because they are still in demand .. so long as dicks can get hard .. sluts will not only be in existence ... men will continue to love to fuck them because their easy, and don't care if the guy is married, and ask no questions, nor fall in love.
Of course, your man isn't going to admit to that ..... geeez.
So, it appears that many of you don't care if your man is thinking about another woman while fucking you.
Curious ...... do you care if loves another woman while holding you?
Funny thing here ..... sex isn't love, yet, people would measure love by fidelity .. yet, in reality, women don't really care if their man is fucking someone esle in their head, while you're the one riding him ...... and if in real life he looked at another woman with desire, same woman would be heart-crushed because she will measure how much he loves her by this ..... yet, he can fantasize about other women and even fuck her with this image in his head.
So, does it all boil down to ... he's allowed to think it, but, not see it?
And that makes a huge fucking difference?
So, so long as he doesn't tell you your best friend has a nice ass, you don't really care how much he thinks it .... so in reality, you aren't really caring how much he wants to fuck your mother who looks hot for 45 because he's not telling about his desire .... but, god help him if he does tell you .. eventhough telling you or not really doesn't change anything because the desire is still present.
The only thing it changes is your awareness of it ... yeah, well, that doesn't change the man, though, does it?
when I say you .... I mean 3rd person for all those out there who dont' get that, and think everything is about you.
Curious ...... do you care if loves another woman while holding you?
Funny thing here ..... sex isn't love, yet, people would measure love by fidelity .. yet, in reality, women don't really care if their man is fucking someone esle in their head, while you're the one riding him ...... and if in real life he looked at another woman with desire, same woman would be heart-crushed because she will measure how much he loves her by this ..... yet, he can fantasize about other women and even fuck her with this image in his head.
So, does it all boil down to ... he's allowed to think it, but, not see it?
And that makes a huge fucking difference?
So, so long as he doesn't tell you your best friend has a nice ass, you don't really care how much he thinks it .... so in reality, you aren't really caring how much he wants to fuck your mother who looks hot for 45 because he's not telling about his desire .... but, god help him if he does tell you .. eventhough telling you or not really doesn't change anything because the desire is still present.
The only thing it changes is your awareness of it ... yeah, well, that doesn't change the man, though, does it?
when I say you .... I mean 3rd person for all those out there who dont' get that, and think everything is about you.
If you're supposed to be in love I can see where it would cause some people to be butt hurt, but if it's just sex between people where no love has been confessed or perhaps even wanted...it's all good.
Monogamy and marriage really are pretty outdated and dumb ideas though if you really think about all of the problems they cause. People become captives when in a monogamous relationship, full of compromise and being told that you're selfish for wanting to fulfill your needs and desires...why? What is so wrong with being selfish? Everyone is, they just don't like to admit it.
Let the narrow-minded prudes begin the barbecuing 🙂
Monogamy and marriage really are pretty outdated and dumb ideas though if you really think about all of the problems they cause. People become captives when in a monogamous relationship, full of compromise and being told that you're selfish for wanting to fulfill your needs and desires...why? What is so wrong with being selfish? Everyone is, they just don't like to admit it.
Let the narrow-minded prudes begin the barbecuing 🙂
The only rude part is in not sticking by your principles and speaking your mind, see...you're not being selfish enough, you're worried about someone else's feelings, a complete stranger on the net no less.
No worries, DXP is the place to unleash those nasty thoughts. Hope you feel better 🙂
I don't have a problem with my guy watching porn either. He did it ALOT when he was in Iraq. It was his release. I'm wasn't there so..... he did what he had to.
I think we are making it more complex then it is. My guy thinks watching a guy and girl going at it is a turn on. It's not about the girl. It's about the act.
I've heard Aries say numerous times that he was watching a porn with a nasty chick in it.
I of course asked him "If she was nasty then why watch it?"
He said "Because it's sex". The actual sight of sex was the arousal not the girl. I don't believe for one second that he's ever touch a girl like that. But he'll watch. Because he is a neaderathal 🙂
I'm very confident in my relationship. Sometimes it's rocky but it's because we are both so passionate that it gets HOT in bad ways. But we remain wrapped up/obssessed with each other. I honestly with out being niave can say that I don't *think* my guy fanasizes about anyone when we are having sex. He's there "with me" as I am with him. We have respect for each other. And that's what it all boils down to.... respect. We tease and poke at each other about the celebrity thing but once in all seriousness we both said even if we had the chance to cheat with our celebrity's we wouldn't do it.
Awwwww 🙂 How bout them apples? 😉 LOL
I think we are making it more complex then it is. My guy thinks watching a guy and girl going at it is a turn on. It's not about the girl. It's about the act.
I've heard Aries say numerous times that he was watching a porn with a nasty chick in it.
I of course asked him "If she was nasty then why watch it?"
He said "Because it's sex". The actual sight of sex was the arousal not the girl. I don't believe for one second that he's ever touch a girl like that. But he'll watch. Because he is a neaderathal 🙂
I'm very confident in my relationship. Sometimes it's rocky but it's because we are both so passionate that it gets HOT in bad ways. But we remain wrapped up/obssessed with each other. I honestly with out being niave can say that I don't *think* my guy fanasizes about anyone when we are having sex. He's there "with me" as I am with him. We have respect for each other. And that's what it all boils down to.... respect. We tease and poke at each other about the celebrity thing but once in all seriousness we both said even if we had the chance to cheat with our celebrity's we wouldn't do it.
Awwwww 🙂 How bout them apples? 😉 LOL
I once had a very good friend she told me all women are hoes it just depends whos hoe they are.
All of you ladies that think your man never thinks about something else besides you while banging you...probably best that you choose to think that way. The reality is that we become bored quite easily, yes even if you do everything we want and are a great freaky little three hole queen. We actually discuss amongst ourselves the fact that women believe us when we say that we only ever think about them when we're fucking.
Now you guys can choose to hate on me for raining on your parade or you can thank one of the few guys that will tell you the honest truth of the matter. If it's any consolation it doesn't mean that he doesn't love you or still want you, it's purely a natural instinct. Perhaps if he's one of the those signs that's boring in the boudoir he may be an exception, but then you've got bigger problems don't you?
Now you guys can choose to hate on me for raining on your parade or you can thank one of the few guys that will tell you the honest truth of the matter. If it's any consolation it doesn't mean that he doesn't love you or still want you, it's purely a natural instinct. Perhaps if he's one of the those signs that's boring in the boudoir he may be an exception, but then you've got bigger problems don't you?
Posted by Gingerscorp
I don't have a problem with my guy watching porn either. He did it ALOT when he was in Iraq. It was his release. I'm wasn't there so..... he did what he had to.
I think we are making it more complex then it is. My guy thinks watching a guy and girl going at it is a turn on. It's not about the girl. It's about the act.
I've heard Aries say numerous times that he was watching a porn with a nasty chick in it.
I of course asked him "If she was nasty then why watch it?"
He said "Because it's sex". The actual sight of sex was the arousal not the girl. I don't believe for one second that he's ever touch a girl like that. But he'll watch. Because he is a neaderathal 🙂
This is soooo true Gingerscorp! It's not about the girl at all. My man has some pretty nasty 80's flicks that he watches occasionally. There's even one where a guy throws garbage out of a trash can on her!!! I mean trash? Come on! ooooo...sexy Oscar! 🙂 He of course isn't into that one, he just wants to see some sex.
I par take as well. In fact...just did last night! I turn it on...do my thing and then turn it off. I don't give two shits about the people I'm watching...it's all about what they are doing. And hell, it does sometimes help me to conger up what I saw last night if I'm having issues getting to that point with him. Is that wrong? I think not!
obviously there does have to be some attraction involved to the people in the porn...not meaning you would ever touch them, but if you found them repulsive then the sex would not be so arousing, eh?
The girls won't believe you Torqued ...... they think men are female.
That's only fair though P A; most men are lost on sex and women. I'm still amazed by guys that feel like they were lucky if they got oral or anal from their girl, (hell even straight sex in some cases) they have no clue that women enjoy it as much or more, so they are doomed to be beggars when it comes to sex which is rather unappealing I would think.
Nevermind .... let the girls get hurt, rather than hear the truth .... that's what they want anyway.
I think it's really hard for people to step outside their own world... in other words stop thinking the way they think because than they would have to face/accept some truths they don't want to accept.
P A You're not taking into account the women that just love pure sex, now I will admit that a great many would also like to be held and feel wanted (other than as a pure fuck) But just as women do not need to orgasm every time, neither does the enlightened man. I'm fine with it if I don't, as long as it's pleasurable for all parties involved it's all good. Admittedly few if any men that I know have come to see this but I surely can't be the only one on the planet.
I think that when a woman feels very comfortable around her partner she can express her animalistic desires of wanting to be fucked hard, hair pulled, nipples pinched, ass smacked, etc and not need any intimacy until afterwards, not that many are cool with just getting dressed and moving on as that is definitely an area where men and women are on different terms...for the most part as there are always exceptions, though a woman that can do that might appear to cold to a man, so she's damned if she does and damned if she's doesn't.
I think that when a woman feels very comfortable around her partner she can express her animalistic desires of wanting to be fucked hard, hair pulled, nipples pinched, ass smacked, etc and not need any intimacy until afterwards, not that many are cool with just getting dressed and moving on as that is definitely an area where men and women are on different terms...for the most part as there are always exceptions, though a woman that can do that might appear to cold to a man, so she's damned if she does and damned if she's doesn't.
Posted by xtina
I think it's really hard for people to step outside their own world... in other words stop thinking the way they think because than they would have to face/accept some truths they don't want to accept.
Now that is truth. Denial is a popular past time amongst people in relationships.
I'm women do enjoy sex ... I was talking about a "need"
And I guarantee you, for those women who are comfortable with their man to let their hair down and not be so inhibited ....... if he wasn't holding her, her crocth would be shooting out ice cubes.
Women HAVE to HAVE intimacy .. this isn't a choice. And that is a part of what I was saying, men think it's a choice for women .. that they just like to be held, and want it because they like it. Some men even get irritated because of when a women wants him to hold her.
Because ...... it isn't fully comprehended that this is a NEED ... a NEED.
Did you know that women have sex with men just to get held? Did you know that was such a large percent that it's staggering.
And I guarantee you, for those women who are comfortable with their man to let their hair down and not be so inhibited ....... if he wasn't holding her, her crocth would be shooting out ice cubes.
Women HAVE to HAVE intimacy .. this isn't a choice. And that is a part of what I was saying, men think it's a choice for women .. that they just like to be held, and want it because they like it. Some men even get irritated because of when a women wants him to hold her.
Because ...... it isn't fully comprehended that this is a NEED ... a NEED.
Did you know that women have sex with men just to get held? Did you know that was such a large percent that it's staggering.
I'm well aware of the need, but seriously I've met quite a few that really just want to get laid, though I'm sure your take on the percentages is quite true. Now I'll also admit that even of those that just want to get laid good and proper, after a while they start developing that need and express it more and more, and that is when it becomes irritating for some men.
Women sleep with men .... just to be held.
And the more he holds her, strokes her hair, snuggles in her neck, wraps his big arms around her and tells her he would never let anything happen to her and pulls her into his chest ............... then the freakier she gets in bed.
It has absolutely nothing to do with the enjoyment of sex on the woman's part, although, I'm quite sure she would argue this point because people really have no clue about anything that goes on outside of their comfort zone, as xtina said .... but, it's the truth.
Try it ..... push your Miss Kinky woman away when she needs to be held and see how fast she decides she HATES to have sex.
And the more he holds her, strokes her hair, snuggles in her neck, wraps his big arms around her and tells her he would never let anything happen to her and pulls her into his chest ............... then the freakier she gets in bed.
It has absolutely nothing to do with the enjoyment of sex on the woman's part, although, I'm quite sure she would argue this point because people really have no clue about anything that goes on outside of their comfort zone, as xtina said .... but, it's the truth.
Try it ..... push your Miss Kinky woman away when she needs to be held and see how fast she decides she HATES to have sex.
Posted by TORQUED
I'm well aware of the need, but seriously I've met quite a few that really just want to get laid, though I'm sure your take on the percentages is quite true. Now I'll also admit that even of those that just want to get laid good and proper, after a while they start developing that need and express it more and more, and that is when it becomes irritating for some men.
That is what you believe because this is what the woman wants you to believe. She knows that in order to capture a man, she must make him believe that she isn't interested in anything serious, she is fun and casual, just out for a good time ..... because certainly if the guy knew she wanted to trap him into a commitment .. he'd run.
She isn't suddenly having a change where she is needing this more and more ... it was always there, and the only reason she is fucking him ... she is spinning her web.
This need isn't developed after a while ... and this is the point I'm trying to make with you, and all men for that matter. A woman getting held and needing intimacy ..
.. is NOT A CHOICE .. it can't just be turned on or developed .... it's ALWAYS THERE .. from the very beginning.
When a woman loooks at a man and is attracted to a man ... she isn't thinking, "Awe, I wonder how big his dick is and if he knows how to use it" .... that's when men thinks she's thinking because that's what women want men to think she's thinking ...... she's thinking ..
... I wonder how tenderly those big, strong arms can feel wrapped around me ....
Posted by P-Angel
Women sleep with men .... just to be held.
And the more he holds her, strokes her hair, snuggles in her neck, wraps his big arms around her and tells her he would never let anything happen to her and pulls her into his chest ............... then the freakier she gets in bed.
It has absolutely nothing to do with the enjoyment of sex on the woman's part, although, I'm quite sure she would argue this point because people really have no clue about anything that goes on outside of their comfort zone, as xtina said .... but, it's the truth.
Try it ..... push your Miss Kinky woman away when she needs to be held and see how fast she decides she HATES to have sex.
I've pushed my freaks away many times, I'm not speaking from text books here, I'm talking real life experiences. I can text them with a simple "wanna fuck" and I get a response in minutes with something like "hell yeah" and we meet and fuck and they might want to kiss but I have to really be in the mood for that type of intimacy so usually I say no and they keep right on fucking and enjoying and they're always on tap for a booty call knowing that they aren't going to get the intimacy. No holding or spooning afterward, unless I'm in the mood and this is where I differ from most guys that I know; they feel that they must do what the woman wants and I feel that they must do what I want, if it's wrong for me to feel that way then it's just as wrong for them to feel that way also.
In my own personal experience this is the norm but it's not like I've sampled tens of thousands of women to be able to claim it as such with any authenticity.
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