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Feb 26, 2008Comments: 0 · Posts: 8735 · Topics: 522
What's your definition of a "hoe," "Slxt" or "whxre?" And could you honestly date/be with someone who fit your definition, even if their "promiscious" ways were a thing of the past. (As some of you people like to say, "People change.")
I've noticed that alot of people throw this term around alot, even when referring to someone they barely know!
Is it about how MANY people they sleep with?
Or how close together the time gap is when sleeping with 1 person & then going to sleep with another?
Does the relation of the people he/she's sleeping with matter (sleeping around with strangers, F buddies, someone else's partner, etc.)?
I mean what, what is your def. of a hoe?
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I have some female acquaintances I think are hos, and some who I just consider very sexual beings. The difference is subtle. My husband says there is no difference, and they're all just being hos, but I think there is.
One acquaintance I consider to be a ho has absolutely no self-esteem, even though she's a smart, beautiful girl. She validates herself by attracting and sleeping with men or women. Sex for her is a stand-in for self-esteem. It's very sad- guys will have sex with her and then get together to laugh and call her a wh0re behind her back. Here's and example of her work: She came to my wedding (which involved overnight camping) with one male guest, invited another to meet her there, and also had sexual contact, to one degree or another, with 2 or 3 of my exboyfriends.
I have a friend who sleeps with just as many people as the first. But, her motives are completely different. She isn't looking for validation and flattery. She's a strong, confident woman who just LOVES sex. No one sneers at her or looks down on her for her sexuality, because she doesn't come across as loose or desperate.
I think there's definitely still a double standard, too. I know plenty of male hos, but people think they're just "being men".
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Posted by Whimsy
I have some female acquaintances I think are hos, and some who I just consider very sexual beings. The difference is subtle. My husband says there is no difference, and they're all just being hos, but I think there is.
One acquaintance I consider to be a ho has absolutely no self-esteem, even though she's a smart, beautiful girl. She validates herself by attracting and sleeping with men or women. Sex for her is a stand-in for self-esteem. It's very sad- guys will have sex with her and then get together to laugh and call her a wh0re behind her back. Here's and example of her work: She came to my wedding (which involved overnight camping) with one male guest, invited another to meet her there, and also had sexual contact, to one degree or another, with 2 or 3 of my exboyfriends.
I have a friend who sleeps with just as many people as the first. But, her motives are completely different. She isn't looking for validation and flattery. She's a strong, confident woman who just LOVES sex. No one sneers at her or looks down on her for her sexuality, because she doesn't come across as loose or desperate.
I think there's definitely still a double standard, too. I know plenty of male hos, but people think they're just "being men".
I think the first one is not the slut and the second one is ... though, I'm sure you were implying the opposite.
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Keep in mind Whimsy, when it comes to people like your first example ... people tend to target for teasing and bullying those people to whom they think are weaker than themselves.
Your friend you spoke of ... the fact that the men flame her isn't what makes her ill, however, her lack of self worth is the illness that causes them to target her.
Your friend needs help .. if she doesn't know how to care for herself. Perhaps one day, you'll be going to her wedding.
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We were asked our personal definition of a ho, and that's what I gave. I am not attaching judgement to her being a ho. If it came across that way, it's because I personally do not like my acquaintance (she is my husband's old friend), not because I'm judging her for what she does. Maybe the word "ho" doesn't really need to be used, because it carries bad connotations. I do feel for her, know she is damaged, and know she needs help. Men do not target her, she targets them. She is no different from an alcoholic- each one uses a "drug" to cover up and fill what is or is not inside. I am calling her a ho because she is using sex as a drug, rather than as a healthy activity. The other woman is not doing that. If I called someone an alcoholic, that wouldn't mean that they're a bad person, only that they have a problem that needs to be addressed. I hope she does get it addressed, I really do hope I can attend her wedding one day.
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Where did I imply you were passing judgement?
Passing judgement would be in assuming my words were to imply something based on something else ... for example, talking in another thread, or because of how another person might view me.
I was responding according to what you wrote. You said, verbatim ...
"I have some female acquaintances I think are hos, and some who I just consider very sexual beings. The difference is subtle. My husband says there is no difference, and they're all just being hos, but I think there is."
And then you went on to describe these females friends .. clarifying within your description which one falls under the ho category and which one is just the sexual being .. in doing this, you make the implication that the first one is the whore.
And I merely disagreed with you, saying the second one that you described is the whore.
Just because I assess this situation to determine which one was the whore and which one wasn't doesn't make any claim towards you of being judgemental.
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P-Angel- yes, I did think you were implying that I was judging her, and therefore that I had no compassion for her situation, and I was attempting to clear that up. Misinterpretation is a downfall of written communciation. What Ellessque said is what I meant, but she said it eloquently, whereas I used too many words and confused the point.
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May 01, 2010Comments: 0 · Posts: 2977 · Topics: 102
a ho is a chick that gets paid in cash, or anything else she thinks is valuable, to have sex
a s1ut is a chick that has sex because she thinks the guy/girl looks good..
and i think all women have a lil s1ut and/or hoe in'em, so as long as i don't know the people she's been with, then i don't care, nor do i want to know about how many people she's been with, because i'll think she's lying anyway..
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I think it's hilarious that when a man is promiscious, wild or conducting himself like a "hoe" would he gets labeled with the "He's just being a man" line. But the minute a woman conducts herself in that way, she's a hoe, slxt, whxre, etc.
I too have met women that just literally like sex. It's not like they're expecting any relationships or any ego boost or validation from the men. They just literally like sex. They go about sex with the same mindset that men do.
And then there are some women (sigh)...The types that:
-Will sleep with 2 guys in the same night
-Will bounce from 1 sexual partner to the other w/o thoroughly getting to know them
-Will sleep with someone else's man & be somewhere bragging about it to her girlfriends
-Will screw 90 men in a 2 year time span
-Will easily go around giving/receiving oral sex from strangers and/or men she hasn't gotten to thoroughly know yet
-Go around thinking that promiscuity is somehow "cute" or attractive (it's only attractive to other dogs!)
-Go around spreading diseases, sleeping with strangers or having multiple 1 night stands, etc.
And I can go on & on.
My co-worker Dina has had sex with over 20 men & she's only 30, BUT here's the catch. She was in an actual relationship with ALL of the men she's slept with. Sure, the relationships may have been short term, BUT in her mind she doesn't feel that she was hoe b/c hey after all, she was sleeping with men that were her "boyfriends." And I think some women don't feel they are hoes as long as they're sleeping around with people they have feelings for. Just comes to show that we can't necesarrily judge someone by their # of sexual partners alone
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Hey some women will go around sleeping with other men & have all the self-esteem & confidence in the world. Of course, there are always those who will question just how high someone's self-esteem is if they're willing to freely/easily give their bodies up to undeserving candidates.
BUT hey, men do it all the time. Some men just literally like sex. They don't want it b/c they have "daddy/mommy" issues. They don't have to be attracted to you on any other level (emotionally, physically, etc.) They don't need any ego-boost or validation to prove their manhood. Sex feels good so duh, they like engaging in whatever activity brings them pleasure. And since they have sex w/o many expectations, they don't consider themselves "hoes." They might admit that they're promiscious, but not hoes. And I do think there's a difference.
It's those "Undercover hoes" that you gotta watch out for! Ya know, the women who go around pretending like they're angels/virgins & then you find out 6 months later that she's slept with half the basketball team! The ones that pretend like they "don't get down like that" but yet when you put them in a comfortable environment & turn the lights off, all of the sudden the "freak" in them comes out! The ones that will secretely sleep with married men and/or someone else's man. The ones that LIE about who they sleep with---they're not lying b/c they feel shame for themselves for sleeping around, no they're lying b/c they don't feel like hearing other's mouths if their true colors are revealed.
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Posted by krysrenee7
And then there are some women (sigh)...The types that:
-Will sleep with 2 guys in the same night
-Will bounce from 1 sexual partner to the other w/o thoroughly getting to know them
-Will sleep with someone else's man & be somewhere bragging about it to her girlfriends
-Will screw 90 men in a 2 year time span
-Will easily go around giving/receiving oral sex from strangers and/or men she hasn't gotten to thoroughly know yet
-Go around thinking that promiscuity is somehow "cute" or attractive (it's only attractive to other dogs!)
-Go around spreading diseases, sleeping with strangers or having multiple 1 night stands, etc.
And I can go on & on.
My co-worker Dina has had sex with over 20 men & she's only 30, BUT here's the catch. She was in an actual relationship with ALL of the men she's slept with. Sure, the relationships may have been short term, BUT in her mind she doesn't feel that she was hoe b/c hey after all, she was sleeping with men that were her "boyfriends." And I think some women don't feel they are hoes as long as they're sleeping around with people they have feelings for. Just comes to show that we can't necesarrily judge someone by their # of sexual partners alone
I agree with Dina. But I've only had 4, so.. And I think most of those descriptions you gave fit that slurname.Signed Up:
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I agree with her too.
BUT I think it's alarming how easily women overlook accountability just b/c a guy is technically her "boyfriend." Just b/c you can make someone your boyfriend doesn't mean they're worthy of being slept with. Make sure your relationship can actually last longer than 6 months before you start getting offensive when people tell you to stop giving it up to every guy that's your boyfriend! Who you make your boyfriend can say MORE about you than how many people you sleep with does, sometimes!
But ladies have got to watch out though. If they tell men that they'll only give it up persay they were in a relationship, they'd be surprised at how many men will purposely wife them up all just to get the benefits! Telling a guy that you'll sleep with him IF he's your boyfriend 1st is a BAD move b/c it tells people that all you care about is the title. Whatever happend to not giving it up UNLESS the guy is actually worth your time, if he respects you and/or if he's earned it? A guy should believe he's gotta do/be THOSE things before he feels entitled to getting some sex..and not just oh, I'm her boyfriend so yes, I can take advantage of her whenever I want.
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(HIGH FIVE!)
I completely agree. You know the world has gone mad when a woman who actually keeps her panties on is seen as a bad thing or game playing. Granted, there are some women who use the cooch as a tool for manipulation, BUT just like all men aren't dogs, not all women think giving up the goods is a game either. Some do but not all.
I hate how men feel they're "entitled" to sex, especially from a woman they're not even in a relationship with. And even if you've wifed her up, you've still gotta keep working to earn those goods, just like you'd have to keep earning her trust & other things.
But no, some people feel entitled to everything the minute the relationship becomes official. Hell, I swear that's 1 of the reasons men who secretely don't want relationships, end up getting in them. They're not in it for the right reasons, no they're just really physically sprung on the gal & instead of taking "no" for an answer, they'll wife you up just to get those benefits. That's pretty cold hearted to play with someone's emotions like that, especially since women like me take relationships very seriously. It's not a game.
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The world has gone MAD when a woman is looked at with skeptical eyes all b/c she's not quick to give up the goods! What happened to the good ole days when people were more skeptical & less trusting of those who'd unzip their pants in a heartbeat and/or for anybody? (Shakes head)
If I was a guy, I'd be even MORE attracted to the woman who was a "challenge." I hate when guys say, "She's making me 'work' for it." Work for what? Don't purposely do right by her all just to get sex. Do right by her & earn her trust b/c you love her and/or genuinely want to. When men say that line, they convince themselves that getting sex is like a game. It might be to the hoes they're trying to sleep with, but a man's mindset should change when he's finally found a woman worthy of commitment. You can't game or go about situations the same with "wifey" the same way you would your FB or some $ 2 hoe!
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@Quiet storm...I 100% agree. Why wait until she does the same things to you? Sure your man might not take the bait but still, why even put yourself around someone who'd bring such drama into your life/relationship? When we actually CAN avoid women trying to hit on our man, we should!
She may not have done anything directly to you, but her lack of character/integrity in certain situations is absolutely a valid enough reason to cut ties with her. Just like with crime, why wait until someone gets hurt/killed before those in the criminal justice system actually take a stand and/or do something about it? Why wait, when you already know it's coming!
The same would go for drugs or any other negative activities someone was engaging in that didn't necessarily affect me. We have every right to only surround ourselves with those who live a certain life style or have a certain mindset like we do. Birds of a feather do flock together, as well they should!
It gets pretty annoying when you try holding onto a friend whose a complete idiot, especially when every time you try to help them, it goes in 1 ear & out the other. You will eventually start to look down on them or get repulsed by their actions. That takes the fun out of friendships; that defeats the purpose of friendships.
If ever you needed a "talk" from her as a friend about self-esteem or making the right sexual choices, it sucks that you already know up front that she wouldn't ever be able to be that "rational" 1 for you. Whereas if you were having problems with your man/relationship, she'd probably persade you to go sleep with another 1, instead of advising you to do the right thing.
I can't hang with anyone who doesn't love or respect themselves. It's hard to entertain people who have horrible judgement ALL the time. All you end up doing is constantly fighting the urge to lecture them or "Slap some sense" into them! That gets REAL old! Hoes should hang with hoes.
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I have separated myself from this girl because of various episodes that aren't related to her ho status. No long-term hard feelings, but life is too short, ya know? I don't mind at all that my husband is still her friend- they grew up together. Whenever they are in the same town and go out with a group of friends, she will flirt with him. I know because he tells me, not because she lets herself get caught doing it. I don't really care because I know my husband and I'm not threatened. He's a great-looking guy and a lot of women flirt with him (and he tells on all of them- LOL). I'm really easy-going and peaceful in most every situation, but I knoethat if I ever experience her disrespectful flirting in person she's going to instantly regret it. Scorpio rising in da house!
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Posted by Whimsy
I have separated myself from this girl because of various episodes that aren't related to her ho status. No long-term hard feelings, but life is too short, ya know? I don't mind at all that my husband is still her friend- they grew up together. Whenever they are in the same town and go out with a group of friends, she will flirt with him. I know because he tells me, not because she lets herself get caught doing it. I don't really care because I know my husband and I'm not threatened. He's a great-looking guy and a lot of women flirt with him (and he tells on all of them- LOL). I'm really easy-going and peaceful in most every situation, but I knoethat if I ever experience her disrespectful flirting in person she's going to instantly regret it. Scorpio rising in da house!
I respect your position on things. You know your man & as long as he can handle himself, there's no point in you making his battle, yours. The fact that he tells you, I'm sure makes it easier for you to trust his judgement and/or be more relaxed about the situation. The worst thing in the world is to find out from others when something like that should've came from your own partner. Trusting your partner's judgement is essential. We can't control OR knock others who think our men are attractive, AS LONG as 1. Our partners handle the situation the right way & 2. The other person doesn't take things too far!
I agree, when you're not there & this chick hits on your man, all you can do is allow him to "handle it." But oh boy, if you're actually there & yet she still has the balls to flirt endlessly with him, that's when you can speak up, if anything b/c she had the balls to do so in front of you. Making a scene isn't necessary, but hey the same goes for self defense on your own property. If you come up in MY house talking shxt, I have every right to shoot you!Signed Up:
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Posted by oldskoolflavor
more of a spectrum, imo..
on one edge,
Keisha who will suck anyone for 15 bucks
on the other edge,
Ashley who fucked a dude's bro 4 fun, or to get back at him
I'd say they're both hoes! 1 is legally considered a hoe/prostitute, while the other isn't. That's the difference.Signed Up:
Jan 06, 2010Comments: 4 · Posts: 1697 · Topics: 71
Anyone who sleeps around male or female (even if they have been in relationships with all of the people) to me is a ho. Anyone who is cheapening sex is a ho. By my own definition I suppose I could be classed as having been a ho. I would go out with someone who had been a ho, depending on their reasons.
Some of my friends like to call any woman who enjoys sex and is open about it a ho, which I think is unfair, I dont see anything wrong with anyone enoying sex, I dont see anything wrong with what sexual acts they get up to (bondage/anal/oral etc) aslong as it is with a partner they care about.
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Posted by libra sun
Anyone who is cheapening sex is a ho. By my own definition I suppose I could be classed as having been a ho. I would go out with someone who had been a ho, depending on their reasons.
Good point. I think it's sad that some women tend to flock to the kinds of men that sleep around. Some women even brag about the aspect of sleeping with someone whose been around. Who cares that he's the most popular guy around town or that he's hot if he's slept with everyone you probably walk past every day. There is NOTHING cute about a walking std. But hey, some women are further intrigued by men who are "experienced" to say the least. They're not only attracted to bad boys, but also to men who've "gotten around." In their minds, they figure that these men must be good in the bedroom since alot of other women have given it up to them. Smh smh it's sad.
I couldn't even date or respect someone whose been around the block. Sure, we all make our mistakes and/or we all have the ability to change, BUT I'd be quite miserable to end up with someone whom everybody has seen naked and/or slept with. No guy wants to be in a relationship with or date the girl that all his buddies have ran though, so Idk why any man would think I'd give him a high-5 if he slept around.
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@APisces...Sad thing is, those very same guys who keep chasing skirts are the VERY SAME guys who are always somewhere complaining about how they can't find a good woman OR they're always swearing they're looking for a good woman. Welp, who you entertain says alot about who YOU are. If a man constantly seeks hoes, it's no wonder he's not finding a woman good enough to take home to mama! Women that actually respect themselves & their bodies are NOT in the same places that hoes are! When a man's attitude & what he's looking for changes, so will the outcome & types of women he's attracting!
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Dec 29, 2009Comments: 0 · Posts: 752 · Topics: 45
look u gon know a hoe when u see one "pulls up chair".
first off hoes lie, they lie and manipulate many men at one time to mask a strong strong insecurity. She tells many men the same thing to get the one things she craves, to be wooed and tended to. A hoe is a woman of masculine levels of lust, rather its for attention or simply sex
a hoe cna play with the one thing us men will never be masters at, emotions. She will feed your ego just to feed hers and it will take many men to feed her ego. Thats a slut. A bottomless pit with no conscience nor sense of others so she continues to feed that stomachless ego until reaslity hits that ass
men are hoes and sluts too, but we dont have a womb that carries the spawn of life in it, thats why a woman's sexual nature is much more sacred then a man's. The child grows in her. But she may need money, sex, or just attention. Either way a slut is a woman with a huge ego who has to have her needs fed and only want people around her that support her ideas so she wont have to coem back to reality
like chili from TLC, she is a slut, she's an attention whore and need's the adoration of many men b/c she is emotionally fucked
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I respect your position on things. You know your man & as long as he can handle himself, there's no point in you making his battle, yours. The fact that he tells you, I'm sure makes it easier for you to trust his judgement and/or be more relaxed about the situation. The worst thing in the world is to find out from others when something like that should've came from your own partner. Trusting your partner's judgement is essential. We can't control OR knock others who think our men are attractive, AS LONG as 1. Our partners handle the situation the right way & 2. The other person doesn't take things too far!
I agree, when you're not there & this chick hits on your man, all you can do is allow him to "handle it." But oh boy, if you're actually there & yet she still has the balls to flirt endlessly with him, that's when you can speak up, if anything b/c she had the balls to do so in front of you. Making a scene isn't necessary, but hey the same goes for self defense on your own property. If you come up in MY house talking shxt, I have every right to shoot you!
Yeah! I've spent WAY too much precious time and energy in my life on guys who were susceptible to hos. I took it upon myself to run around trying to defend my man from every woman on earth. It was like battling the Hydra- every time I would get rid of one head (i.e. flirty girl), two more would spring up! I have NO more patience for a man who can't be respectful and handle himself.Signed Up:
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Posted by QuietSt0rm
Posted by krysrenee7
Wow, see yeah he was warning you. What he REALLY meant to say to you was that people like HIM will end up falling for or repeating her same behavior. He was speaking from his own guilty conscious and/or lusting thoughts.
LOL I know right, he wanted me to stop hanging out with her so he could get on! Sheisty bastid LOL
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Hey, that happens! They said it could possibly be a RED FLAG when your partner is a little TOO focused on you dropping a certain person from your life! I used to date this guy whom I had no idea was engaged. When his fiance called me & asked me how I knew her man, I was shocked & confessed everything to her. Pst, I didn't want the bastard any longer if he was already in a relationship. BUT what really caught my ears was when she said that she knew something was up/fishy when he kept mentioning my name in a negative way (me and the guy worked together). She said he'd come home every night & talk crap about "the girl who sits next to him." She felt it was quite strange that he kept mentioning my name & kept trying a little TOO hard to defame me. She eventually got suspicious & felt that him trying so hard to talk so badly about me was what she thought, an admission of guilt. And she was right. Sub-consciously, this guy was messing with me so he convinced himself that if he convinced her that I was some bad person that she'd never suspect anything was going on b/w us. Ha! She wasn't that dumb. She knew the game. That's how he got caught. He was a little TOO over-persistent; it boggled her mind that her big strong & muscular fiance would be just OH SO BOTHERED by someone (a female, at that!) at work. She knew something was up. SmhSigned Up:
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Posted by TyDyed
Okay...
HOE / WHORE -- a woman/man who does not connect love + sex, and gets paid for the sex. (or, a Professional)
SLUT -- a woman/man who does not connect love + sex, and has sex for free. (or, an Amateur / Hobbyist)
How's that for gender neutral - and, nonjudgmental.
HA! So does that mean that a woman who is dating someone but does NOT love the person YET is being a hoe all b/c she sleeps with him before the thought of love even comes into the picture? If so, that'd mean that aloooooooot of single women are the biggest hoes on earth! In other words, some women absolutely DO and WILL associate love with sex eventually lol. Just not right now!
Personally, I've seen more hoes that are in relationships than I do that are single! People who cheat in relationships tend to be 10Xs more promiscious/sexual when they "Get theirs" vs. just the average single girl looking for a quick "nut" =PSigned Up:
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Posted by QuietSt0rm
@Krys my sag friend (male) told me that same sort of thing happened to him with his scorpio wife. She was cheating on him with a guy from work and initially she was talking about how much she hated the guy!
HA! I'll tell ya, alot of people give themselves away! It's not the woman a man is NOT talking about that he's probably screwing on the side. It's probably the 1 he randomly & suddenly decides to hate & start bashing w/o any valid reason! SHE'S the 1 that he's probably really into! Why do guys do that? Do they not realize that suddenly having a hate for someone they claim to barely know is a dead giveaway!? It seems backwards, just kinda like in highschool when girls/guys actually pick on or are mean to the person they're actually really crushing on. (Sigh) This world is so backwards =P