Friends first?

This topic was created in the Relationships forum by PuzzlePieces on Friday, August 30, 2019 and has 50 replies.
What does this mean? Well ya know I get it if you met somewhere & became friends, then later decided to go for it.

But what if you meet someone you might be interested in. How does this work then? Do you ever show affection? Or this really code for I’m dating but I’m not getting physical until I’m ready for a relationship so then you’re in some in between realm.

Please state your sun, Venus & mars.
Posted by dilettante

i like friends first bc companionship is important to me, for long term relationships.

i’ll be physical w/ them but show affection once i start feeling comfy.

venus in cap/11th - mars in aqua/12th
Physical as in having sex?
Posted by dilettante
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Posted by dilettante

i like friends first bc companionship is important to me, for long term relationships.

i’ll be physical w/ them but show affection once i start feeling comfy.

venus in cap/11th - mars in aqua/12th


Physical as in having sex?


yup. i can be sexually physical w/ people i dont know well but affection is different. affection, for me, comes from care & feelings.
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So that’s like a FWB?
Posted by Antiphates

I am an avid fan of it.

I tend to take love stuff slow anway and my entrance barriers for friendship is also pretty high, meaning that if that works a relationship is also more likely to work instead of just jumping at it from the beginning and then be dissapointed by the abvious.

Aqua sun

Cap rxVenus

Sag Mars
Are you having sex or or any other affection or just hanging out and doing stuff or talking?
I need to be friends first to layer the base layer. Being romantically involved to quickly can cause for nutcase stalkers in the future. My vetting process is lighthearted until the prospect blossoms

The physicality part can vary depending on chemistry. I'm more laid back but my Scorp moon makes it always a priority of getting to know someone whole.

Lib sun

Venus & Mars in Scorpio
Why first? I'm good at multi-tasking.
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Posted by Antiphates

I am an avid fan of it.

I tend to take love stuff slow anway and my entrance barriers for friendship is also pretty high, meaning that if that works a relationship is also more likely to work instead of just jumping at it from the beginning and then be dissapointed by the abvious.

Aqua sun

Cap rxVenus

Sag Mars


Are you having sex or or any other affection or just hanging out and doing stuff or talking?


Just hanging out and talking.

When it comes to sex I prefer the fire and forget of the ONS.

The affection thing is a bit tricky because it takes a lot of time even with friends but I'm not very physically affectionate person to begin with.
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No hugs or kisses hello or goodbye?
Posted by LadyNeptune

Why first? I'm good at multi-tasking.
Lol right?
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Posted by LadyNeptune

Why first? I'm good at multi-tasking.


Lol right?
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I want to laugh in bed as often as I moan.
If ever I date again, I’d like to think I’d get to know the guy before having sex. Being affectionate is good if it feels right...hugging, kissing etc but I’d have to be very sure before I let him in sexually, that stuff goes deep with me

Sun and Venus Scorpio 7th

Mars Taurus 2nd
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Posted by Antiphates

I am an avid fan of it.

I tend to take love stuff slow anway and my entrance barriers for friendship is also pretty high, meaning that if that works a relationship is also more likely to work instead of just jumping at it from the beginning and then be dissapointed by the abvious.

Aqua sun

Cap rxVenus

Sag Mars


Are you having sex or or any other affection or just hanging out and doing stuff or talking?


Just hanging out and talking.

When it comes to sex I prefer the fire and forget of the ONS.

The affection thing is a bit tricky because it takes a lot of time even with friends but I'm not very physically affectionate person to begin with.

No hugs or kisses hello or goodbye?


Firm handshakes.
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See now that makes more sense to me! I am so confused. He told me he does friends first last night but it was in a conversation about my first marriage & how what happened wouldn’t happen because he does friends first.

We do the hanging out & talking and both really enjoy it. But there are some sweet kisses on the lips while saying goodbye. Holding hands once.

Maybe he was just explaining because I probably look confused.. like I’m always trying to figure what he’s going to do/wants to do.

I feel like I need to know the rules lol
Posted by Phantom_Dangus

Modern dating is so complicated.
I’m sooooooo confused! I’ve never met someone like this before. 😂
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Posted by Antiphates
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Posted by Antiphates

I am an avid fan of it.

I tend to take love stuff slow anway and my entrance barriers for friendship is also pretty high, meaning that if that works a relationship is also more likely to work instead of just jumping at it from the beginning and then be dissapointed by the abvious.

Aqua sun

Cap rxVenus

Sag Mars


Are you having sex or or any other affection or just hanging out and doing stuff or talking?


Just hanging out and talking.

When it comes to sex I prefer the fire and forget of the ONS.

The affection thing is a bit tricky because it takes a lot of time even with friends but I'm not very physically affectionate person to begin with.

No hugs or kisses hello or goodbye?


Firm handshakes.


See now that makes more sense to me! I am so confused. He told me he does friends first last night but it was in a conversation about my first marriage & how what happened wouldn’t happen because he does friends first.

We do the hanging out & talking and both really enjoy it. But there are some sweet kisses on the lips while saying goodbye. Holding hands once.

Maybe he was just explaining because I probably look confused.. like I’m always trying to figure what he’s going to do/wants to do.

I feel like I need to know the rules lol
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You have to make your own rules Roo😀
Posted by Erinelda
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Firm handshakes.


To a Cancer that just sounds like you must be joking lol. I keep imagining giving my lover a handshake like we just confirmed some sort of business deal Lol. It's so silly, if you tried to make me shake your hand I'd just laugh.
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The shook my hand to say hello the first time we met 😂😂 I just looked at his hand and went well ok. But he did give me a 1/2 hug goodbye. I must have done something right? 🙃
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Firm handshakes.


To a Cancer that just sounds like you must be joking lol. I keep imagining giving my lover a handshake like we just confirmed some sort of business deal Lol. It's so silly, if you tried to make me shake your hand I'd just laugh.
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sounds like code for a handjob to me.

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Firm handshakes.


To a Cancer that just sounds like you must be joking lol. I keep imagining giving my lover a handshake like we just confirmed some sort of business deal Lol. It's so silly, if you tried to make me shake your hand I'd just laugh.


sounds like code for a handjob to me.


Lmfao

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limp hands need not apply
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Posted by Antiphates

I am an avid fan of it.

I tend to take love stuff slow anway and my entrance barriers for friendship is also pretty high, meaning that if that works a relationship is also more likely to work instead of just jumping at it from the beginning and then be dissapointed by the abvious.

Aqua sun

Cap rxVenus

Sag Mars


Are you having sex or or any other affection or just hanging out and doing stuff or talking?


Just hanging out and talking.

When it comes to sex I prefer the fire and forget of the ONS.

The affection thing is a bit tricky because it takes a lot of time even with friends but I'm not very physically affectionate person to begin with.

No hugs or kisses hello or goodbye?


Firm handshakes.


See now that makes more sense to me! I am so confused. He told me he does friends first last night but it was in a conversation about my first marriage & how what happened wouldn’t happen because he does friends first.

We do the hanging out & talking and both really enjoy it. But there are some sweet kisses on the lips while saying goodbye. Holding hands once.

Maybe he was just explaining because I probably look confused.. like I’m always trying to figure what he’s going to do/wants to do.

I feel like I need to know the rules lol


I don't there are any fixed rules but only people with quirks.

If he says you are only friends it's best to stick with it. If there are things that confuse you can either aks him or set boundaries if you don't want it without being in an offical romantic setting.
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He didn’t tell me we were only friends. It was part of a conversation about something else and he just said that’s how he operates and why. Not specifically with me but in general.

I just tend to do the observe thing and be hesitant when I don’t understand what’s happening. I like the kisses.. but I’m just trying to not do the sag get excited thing, but understand more.
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Posted by Antiphates

I am an avid fan of it.

I tend to take love stuff slow anway and my entrance barriers for friendship is also pretty high, meaning that if that works a relationship is also more likely to work instead of just jumping at it from the beginning and then be dissapointed by the abvious.

Aqua sun

Cap rxVenus

Sag Mars


Are you having sex or or any other affection or just hanging out and doing stuff or talking?


Just hanging out and talking.

When it comes to sex I prefer the fire and forget of the ONS.

The affection thing is a bit tricky because it takes a lot of time even with friends but I'm not very physically affectionate person to begin with.

No hugs or kisses hello or goodbye?


Firm handshakes.


See now that makes more sense to me! I am so confused. He told me he does friends first last night but it was in a conversation about my first marriage & how what happened wouldn’t happen because he does friends first.

We do the hanging out & talking and both really enjoy it. But there are some sweet kisses on the lips while saying goodbye. Holding hands once.

Maybe he was just explaining because I probably look confused.. like I’m always trying to figure what he’s going to do/wants to do.

I feel like I need to know the rules lol


i would also say “friends first” if i was being extremely cautious.

hand holding & light kisses would be my way of dipping my toes in the water & feeling ok about the temp.

he’s opening up to genuine physical intimacy... seems good to me?
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They are tender but light.. feels kinda nice. Ok just trying to understand, it’s so foreign to me. Deep conversations though which is very cool to have with him.
Well I always figured it was make friends & find out about the whole you along the way. So I never operated this way. Of course I always had aggressive guys around 😂 maybe my sag sun. But truth is.. things were not discovered until they were big problems along the way & you find out they aren’t willing to work together after decades of working together.. but in different ways.

This is suppose is more the thinking before feeling way. Is that accurate?
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Posted by Antiphates

I am an avid fan of it.

I tend to take love stuff slow anway and my entrance barriers for friendship is also pretty high, meaning that if that works a relationship is also more likely to work instead of just jumping at it from the beginning and then be dissapointed by the abvious.

Aqua sun

Cap rxVenus

Sag Mars


Are you having sex or or any other affection or just hanging out and doing stuff or talking?


Just hanging out and talking.

When it comes to sex I prefer the fire and forget of the ONS.

The affection thing is a bit tricky because it takes a lot of time even with friends but I'm not very physically affectionate person to begin with.

No hugs or kisses hello or goodbye?


Firm handshakes.


See now that makes more sense to me! I am so confused. He told me he does friends first last night but it was in a conversation about my first marriage & how what happened wouldn’t happen because he does friends first.

We do the hanging out & talking and both really enjoy it. But there are some sweet kisses on the lips while saying goodbye. Holding hands once.

Maybe he was just explaining because I probably look confused.. like I’m always trying to figure what he’s going to do/wants to do.

I feel like I need to know the rules lol


I don't there are any fixed rules but only people with quirks.

If he says you are only friends it's best to stick with it. If there are things that confuse you can either aks him or set boundaries if you don't want it without being in an offical romantic setting.


He didn’t tell me we were only friends. It was part of a conversation about something else and he just said that’s how he operates and why. Not specifically with me but in general.

I just tend to do the observe thing and be hesitant when I don’t understand what’s happening. I like the kisses.. but I’m just trying to not do the sag get excited thing, but understand more.


Well, you might as well just ask, but what you describe sounds like he is opening up step by step, which means that talking might make him too aware of it resulting in some form of retreat.

If you want to encourage him or speed things up you can do your own little steps and see how he reacts.
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Well he had a step that didn’t go so well and backed up a little, but not completely. So I was a bit worried about what I was seeing and if it was a wall going up. Still a tender kiss or actually two, so must be ok. My cap Venus gets a little woah what’s happening. And I observe way too much. But it’s okay, it’s showing how we deal with these things.. which I suppose is the whole point.
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Well I always figured it was make friends & find out about the whole you along the way. So I never operated this way. Of course I always had aggressive guys around 😂 maybe my sag sun. But truth is.. things were not discovered until they were big problems along the way & you find out they aren’t willing to work together after decades of working together.. but in different ways.

This is suppose is more the thinking before feeling way. Is that accurate?


this is a libra male right?

someone here reaffirmed that libra placements like to “mentally plan” their decisions, which is why they take their time weighing stuff out. they like to be prepared, especially when emotions are involved. i guess that could be taken as “thinking before feeling”.

i looooove a good courtship. the mystery of a blooming relationship is just 🤗🥰🤗🥰🤗🥰🤗🤗🤗🥰🤗🥰🤗🥰🤗🥰🤗
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Yes the Libra male 😊 Yes he said he likes to do things things together to see how we operate, to know what he’s getting into before he does. So that way you know how the person deals with problems and how you work together to solve them.
It's easy to sex someone. Anyone can do that.

So, I leave it for the easy women to actually DO. They're everywhere.

Needing a dick in me to know if there's chemistry? Negative. Needing a man's affection (or validation) to know if he is worth my time? Negative.

Friendship is underrated but makes EVERYTHING so much better.
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Posted by Antiphates

I am an avid fan of it.

I tend to take love stuff slow anway and my entrance barriers for friendship is also pretty high, meaning that if that works a relationship is also more likely to work instead of just jumping at it from the beginning and then be dissapointed by the abvious.

Aqua sun

Cap rxVenus

Sag Mars


Are you having sex or or any other affection or just hanging out and doing stuff or talking?


Just hanging out and talking.

When it comes to sex I prefer the fire and forget of the ONS.

The affection thing is a bit tricky because it takes a lot of time even with friends but I'm not very physically affectionate person to begin with.

No hugs or kisses hello or goodbye?


Firm handshakes.


See now that makes more sense to me! I am so confused. He told me he does friends first last night but it was in a conversation about my first marriage & how what happened wouldn’t happen because he does friends first.

We do the hanging out & talking and both really enjoy it. But there are some sweet kisses on the lips while saying goodbye. Holding hands once.

Maybe he was just explaining because I probably look confused.. like I’m always trying to figure what he’s going to do/wants to do.

I feel like I need to know the rules lol


Maybe he's not as interested yet. He's taking his time and assessing things.
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Possibly.
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Posted by dilettante

i like friends first bc companionship is important to me, for long term relationships.

i’ll be physical w/ them but show affection once i start feeling comfy.

venus in cap/11th - mars in aqua/12th


Physical as in having sex?


yup. i can be sexually physical w/ people i dont know well but affection is different. affection, for me, comes from care & feelings.
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Isn’t affection same as horny? 🤔
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Posted by dilettante

i like friends first bc companionship is important to me, for long term relationships.

i’ll be physical w/ them but show affection once i start feeling comfy.

venus in cap/11th - mars in aqua/12th


Physical as in having sex?


yup. i can be sexually physical w/ people i dont know well but affection is different. affection, for me, comes from care & feelings.


Isn’t affection same as horny? 🤔


no
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Hon. Yes it is. Don’t believe anybody. It’s the same shit...🤝
My 2 long terms were both "friends first"

I didn't plan it either it just happened.

I do prefer it though.

I'll be very flirty with a potential boyfriend show enough interest to make it clear....

I'd like to get to know him more.

From weeks to months even.

It works best with laid back guys.

The ones in a hurry for relationships or *hooking up never hold my interest for long anyway.
I was friends first with my fiance. But this is not the "normal" thing for me if you look at my past relationship history. But I will say, this is the healthiest, and most loving relationship I have been in. We got to know each other, without messy romantic feelings, without ulterior motives. Or anything else that could complicate things long before we became interested in each other.
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It's easy to sex someone. Anyone can do that.

So, I leave it for the easy women to actually DO. They're everywhere.

Needing a dick in me to know if there's chemistry? Negative. Needing a man's affection (or validation) to know if he is worth my time? Negative.

Friendship is underrated but makes EVERYTHING so much better.


Agree. It all begins with friendship. It's a good test to see if things will progress or not without the tricky physical aspect to it. And if things don't turn romantic, at least you got a new friend. It's how I see it. If it turns romantic, it's so beautiful because the friendship is there.
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Truly! ☺️❤️
Posted by Basorexia

My 2 long terms were both "friends first"

I didn't plan it either it just happened.

I do prefer it though.

I'll be very flirty with a potential boyfriend show enough interest to make it clear....

I'd like to get to know him more.

From weeks to months even.

It works best with laid back guys.

The ones in a hurry for relationships or *hooking up never hold my interest for long anyway.
And what if after all THAT you are sexually non compatible??? 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️🧟‍♀️
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Posted by Basorexia

My 2 long terms were both "friends first"

I didn't plan it either it just happened.

I do prefer it though.

I'll be very flirty with a potential boyfriend show enough interest to make it clear....

I'd like to get to know him more.

From weeks to months even.

It works best with laid back guys.

The ones in a hurry for relationships or *hooking up never hold my interest for long anyway.


And what if after all THAT you are sexually non compatible??? 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️🧟‍♀️
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Whats all that?

Getting to know someone? Lol

I guess you stay friends Laughing

I think that's the difference between you & me... I don't want a deviant psycho sexual guy.
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Posted by Basorexia

My 2 long terms were both "friends first"

I didn't plan it either it just happened.

I do prefer it though.

I'll be very flirty with a potential boyfriend show enough interest to make it clear....

I'd like to get to know him more.

From weeks to months even.

It works best with laid back guys.

The ones in a hurry for relationships or *hooking up never hold my interest for long anyway.


And what if after all THAT you are sexually non compatible??? 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️🧟‍♀️


Whats all that?

Getting to know someone? Lol

I guess you stay friends Laughing

I think that's the difference between you & me... I don't want a deviant psycho sexual guy.
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I don’t date psychos. And I don’t have time to waste on friendship...lol

I told Aries about this post and he said ‘yeah...you haven’t even waited for the first date...’ 😂😂😂
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I was friends first with my fiance. But this is not the "normal" thing for me if you look at my past relationship history. But I will say, this is the healthiest, and most loving relationship I have been in. We got to know each other, without messy romantic feelings, without ulterior motives. Or anything else that could complicate things long before we became interested in each other.
Very nice. Well that’s what I’m looking for healthy & loving. This friends first thing is foreign to me but I see enough potential in ways I haven’t seen before, so I’m intrigued. I’m in a slow down mode anyway for my own healthy reasons so I’m going with the flow right now. See what happens. Usually if I feel a friends vibe, I’m not paying attention. But hell this one is different.. so I’m paying attention.
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Well I always figured it was make friends & find out about the whole you along the way. So I never operated this way. Of course I always had aggressive guys around 😂 maybe my sag sun. But truth is.. things were not discovered until they were big problems along the way & you find out they aren’t willing to work together after decades of working together.. but in different ways.

This is suppose is more the thinking before feeling way. Is that accurate?


this is a libra male right?

someone here reaffirmed that libra placements like to “mentally plan” their decisions, which is why they take their time weighing stuff out. they like to be prepared, especially when emotions are involved. i guess that could be taken as “thinking before feeling”.

i looooove a good courtship. the mystery of a blooming relationship is just 🤗🥰🤗🥰🤗🥰🤗🤗🤗🥰🤗🥰🤗🥰🤗🥰🤗
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I’m starting to get it.. 🤷‍♀️ Makes me wonder about the last few years after my divorce.

So I’ve seen him 6 times and whatever between us seems to be growing slowly, yep chemistrywise. It’s pretty sweet and nice smile Saturday we are supposed to go on an adventure & spend the day together. 😍 it’s really nice to be respected for a change. My cap Venus is liking this 🙃
I will tell someone that I'm lukewarm about that I want to be friends first or guys that are rushing me. I force them to slow down, but I hate when it's done to me. I'm practically treating the situation like a full blown relationship when I like the person immediately.

I do like the friends first approach, but I will mostly do both. No title but having sex and seeing where it goes. I just don't like the option of "boyfriend" being taken away. I like the illusion of blurred lines and openness.
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I will tell someone that I'm lukewarm about that I want to be friends first or guys that are rushing me. I force them to slow down, but I hate when it's done to me. I'm practically treating the situation like a full blown relationship when I like the person immediately.

I do like the friends first approach, but I will mostly do both. No title but having sex and seeing where it goes. I just don't like the option of "boyfriend" being taken away. I like the illusion of blurred lines and openness.
Me too! But this was different from the start. I don’t quite know how to describe it. There was enough of a spark for me to reach out first which I NEVER do. He has seemed interested but hesitant, and I think it was because he wasn’t at super fast speed that I got confused. The slow down has created a getting to know each other on a level I don’t usually do first. Usually it’s during like you mentioned. But really he has been pursuing just slowly building. And I think I’ve allowed the slow down cuz we match up really well, in theory. Now we are finding out. The rest it seems comes when it’s time.
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I will tell someone that I'm lukewarm about that I want to be friends first or guys that are rushing me. I force them to slow down, but I hate when it's done to me. I'm practically treating the situation like a full blown relationship when I like the person immediately.

I do like the friends first approach, but I will mostly do both. No title but having sex and seeing where it goes. I just don't like the option of "boyfriend" being taken away. I like the illusion of blurred lines and openness.


Me too! But this was different from the start. I don’t quite know how to describe it. There was enough of a spark for me to reach out first which I NEVER do. He has seemed interested but hesitant, and I think it was because he wasn’t at super fast speed that I got confused. The slow down has created a getting to know each other on a level I don’t usually do first. Usually it’s during like you mentioned. But really he has been pursuing just slowly building. And I think I’ve allowed the slow down cuz we match up really well, in theory. Now we are finding out. The rest it seems comes when it’s time.
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This is what I'm experiencing with the Virgo I'm seeing. No matter how much time apart, usually a couple of weeks, we have without seeing him, my interest grows and when I see him, the time we spend is so good, that my interest grows even more. And he has patience for me not moving fast, he's not giving up on me or rushing me. It's a great balance and I'm loving the slow pace.

I find myself reaching out as well, because I know there isn't any pressure to and he's just accepting of everything I do so far, which is amazing to me.

What sign is your new guy?
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I will tell someone that I'm lukewarm about that I want to be friends first or guys that are rushing me. I force them to slow down, but I hate when it's done to me. I'm practically treating the situation like a full blown relationship when I like the person immediately.

I do like the friends first approach, but I will mostly do both. No title but having sex and seeing where it goes. I just don't like the option of "boyfriend" being taken away. I like the illusion of blurred lines and openness.


Me too! But this was different from the start. I don’t quite know how to describe it. There was enough of a spark for me to reach out first which I NEVER do. He has seemed interested but hesitant, and I think it was because he wasn’t at super fast speed that I got confused. The slow down has created a getting to know each other on a level I don’t usually do first. Usually it’s during like you mentioned. But really he has been pursuing just slowly building. And I think I’ve allowed the slow down cuz we match up really well, in theory. Now we are finding out. The rest it seems comes when it’s time.


This is what I'm experiencing with the Virgo I'm seeing. No matter how much time apart, usually a couple of weeks, we have without seeing him, my interest grows and when I see him, the time we spend is so good, that my interest grows even more. And he has patience for me not moving fast, he's not giving up on me or rushing me. It's a great balance and I'm loving the slow pace.

I find myself reaching out as well, because I know there isn't any pressure to and he's just accepting of everything I do so far, which is amazing to me.

What sign is your new guy?
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He’s :

Libra sun

Sag moon

Virgo Venus

Leo Mars

I think it’s the Virgo Venus, it’s like he’s courting.. We see each other 1x a week sometimes 2x after 3 weeks between 1st & 2nd date.. but I was on vacation & then sick for 2 weeks after so who knows what would’ve happened otherwise. We both really enjoy spending time together, non stop talking about anything & everything and he’s just so freaking sweet & respectful. It’s adorable 🥰
If I’m friends with a guy first his chances of getting it in are zero. Once we are friends there’s no chance of me even thinking about him on any other way
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I will tell someone that I'm lukewarm about that I want to be friends first or guys that are rushing me. I force them to slow down, but I hate when it's done to me. I'm practically treating the situation like a full blown relationship when I like the person immediately.

I do like the friends first approach, but I will mostly do both. No title but having sex and seeing where it goes. I just don't like the option of "boyfriend" being taken away. I like the illusion of blurred lines and openness.


Me too! But this was different from the start. I don’t quite know how to describe it. There was enough of a spark for me to reach out first which I NEVER do. He has seemed interested but hesitant, and I think it was because he wasn’t at super fast speed that I got confused. The slow down has created a getting to know each other on a level I don’t usually do first. Usually it’s during like you mentioned. But really he has been pursuing just slowly building. And I think I’ve allowed the slow down cuz we match up really well, in theory. Now we are finding out. The rest it seems comes when it’s time.


This is what I'm experiencing with the Virgo I'm seeing. No matter how much time apart, usually a couple of weeks, we have without seeing him, my interest grows and when I see him, the time we spend is so good, that my interest grows even more. And he has patience for me not moving fast, he's not giving up on me or rushing me. It's a great balance and I'm loving the slow pace.

I find myself reaching out as well, because I know there isn't any pressure to and he's just accepting of everything I do so far, which is amazing to me.

What sign is your new guy?


He’s :

Libra sun

Sag moon

Virgo Venus

Leo Mars

I think it’s the Virgo Venus, it’s like he’s courting.. We see each other 1x a week sometimes 2x after 3 weeks between 1st & 2nd date.. but I was on vacation & then sick for 2 weeks after so who knows what would’ve happened otherwise. We both really enjoy spending time together, non stop talking about anything & everything and he’s just so freaking sweet & respectful. It’s adorable 🥰
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That's great that your enjoying yourself! The slow pace is fun for me too. I love the build of excitement that I get and the rush of adrenaline when I know I will see him.

That sun/moon combo is good and the Leo Mars to your Cap Venus is great as well. I love that combination. I have a Leo Mars and Cap Venus is really passionate to me. Like soul level passionate.
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I will tell someone that I'm lukewarm about that I want to be friends first or guys that are rushing me. I force them to slow down, but I hate when it's done to me. I'm practically treating the situation like a full blown relationship when I like the person immediately.

I do like the friends first approach, but I will mostly do both. No title but having sex and seeing where it goes. I just don't like the option of "boyfriend" being taken away. I like the illusion of blurred lines and openness.


Me too! But this was different from the start. I don’t quite know how to describe it. There was enough of a spark for me to reach out first which I NEVER do. He has seemed interested but hesitant, and I think it was because he wasn’t at super fast speed that I got confused. The slow down has created a getting to know each other on a level I don’t usually do first. Usually it’s during like you mentioned. But really he has been pursuing just slowly building. And I think I’ve allowed the slow down cuz we match up really well, in theory. Now we are finding out. The rest it seems comes when it’s time.


This is what I'm experiencing with the Virgo I'm seeing. No matter how much time apart, usually a couple of weeks, we have without seeing him, my interest grows and when I see him, the time we spend is so good, that my interest grows even more. And he has patience for me not moving fast, he's not giving up on me or rushing me. It's a great balance and I'm loving the slow pace.

I find myself reaching out as well, because I know there isn't any pressure to and he's just accepting of everything I do so far, which is amazing to me.

What sign is your new guy?


He’s :

Libra sun

Sag moon

Virgo Venus

Leo Mars

I think it’s the Virgo Venus, it’s like he’s courting.. We see each other 1x a week sometimes 2x after 3 weeks between 1st & 2nd date.. but I was on vacation & then sick for 2 weeks after so who knows what would’ve happened otherwise. We both really enjoy spending time together, non stop talking about anything & everything and he’s just so freaking sweet & respectful. It’s adorable 🥰


That's great that your enjoying yourself! The slow pace is fun for me too. I love the build of excitement that I get and the rush of adrenaline when I know I will see him.

That sun/moon combo is good and the Leo Mars to your Cap Venus is great as well. I love that combination. I have a Leo Mars and Cap Venus is really passionate to me. Like soul level passionate.
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Yep! Usually Leo Mars don’t give up very easily with me lol. Once they know your interested at least. I guess the venuses match up well & me being sag/aqua seems a good match with his moon. We really connect through some of the sag traits. He’s just cautious but getting more comfy all the time 😁I really like the partnership type conversations.. he asks me my opinion a lot & is always asking what I want after I ask what he wants, and then he says it doesn’t matter to him, so I say my preference 😂😂 but if you let him, he shows you his choices. Choices & both allowing & encouraging each other’s 😍🥰❤️
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I will tell someone that I'm lukewarm about that I want to be friends first or guys that are rushing me. I force them to slow down, but I hate when it's done to me. I'm practically treating the situation like a full blown relationship when I like the person immediately.

I do like the friends first approach, but I will mostly do both. No title but having sex and seeing where it goes. I just don't like the option of "boyfriend" being taken away. I like the illusion of blurred lines and openness.


Me too! But this was different from the start. I don’t quite know how to describe it. There was enough of a spark for me to reach out first which I NEVER do. He has seemed interested but hesitant, and I think it was because he wasn’t at super fast speed that I got confused. The slow down has created a getting to know each other on a level I don’t usually do first. Usually it’s during like you mentioned. But really he has been pursuing just slowly building. And I think I’ve allowed the slow down cuz we match up really well, in theory. Now we are finding out. The rest it seems comes when it’s time.


This is what I'm experiencing with the Virgo I'm seeing. No matter how much time apart, usually a couple of weeks, we have without seeing him, my interest grows and when I see him, the time we spend is so good, that my interest grows even more. And he has patience for me not moving fast, he's not giving up on me or rushing me. It's a great balance and I'm loving the slow pace.

I find myself reaching out as well, because I know there isn't any pressure to and he's just accepting of everything I do so far, which is amazing to me.

What sign is your new guy?


He’s :

Libra sun

Sag moon

Virgo Venus

Leo Mars

I think it’s the Virgo Venus, it’s like he’s courting.. We see each other 1x a week sometimes 2x after 3 weeks between 1st & 2nd date.. but I was on vacation & then sick for 2 weeks after so who knows what would’ve happened otherwise. We both really enjoy spending time together, non stop talking about anything & everything and he’s just so freaking sweet & respectful. It’s adorable 🥰


That's great that your enjoying yourself! The slow pace is fun for me too. I love the build of excitement that I get and the rush of adrenaline when I know I will see him.

That sun/moon combo is good and the Leo Mars to your Cap Venus is great as well. I love that combination. I have a Leo Mars and Cap Venus is really passionate to me. Like soul level passionate.


Yep! Usually Leo Mars don’t give up very easily with me lol. Once they know your interested at least. I guess the venuses match up well & me being sag/aqua seems a good match with his moon. We really connect through some of the sag traits. He’s just cautious but getting more comfy all the time 😁I really like the partnership type conversations.. he asks me my opinion a lot & is always asking what I want after I ask what he wants, and then he says it doesn’t matter to him, so I say my preference 😂😂 but if you let him, he shows you his choices. Choices & both allowing & encouraging each other’s 😍🥰❤️
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That sounds more like his indecisive Libra sun, but it is nice to be heard and asked! I agree lol

The slow opening up and revealing little by little is sexy to me. I think I just like the challenge and being tortured with the slowness of itLaughing
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I will tell someone that I'm lukewarm about that I want to be friends first or guys that are rushing me. I force them to slow down, but I hate when it's done to me. I'm practically treating the situation like a full blown relationship when I like the person immediately.

I do like the friends first approach, but I will mostly do both. No title but having sex and seeing where it goes. I just don't like the option of "boyfriend" being taken away. I like the illusion of blurred lines and openness.


Me too! But this was different from the start. I don’t quite know how to describe it. There was enough of a spark for me to reach out first which I NEVER do. He has seemed interested but hesitant, and I think it was because he wasn’t at super fast speed that I got confused. The slow down has created a getting to know each other on a level I don’t usually do first. Usually it’s during like you mentioned. But really he has been pursuing just slowly building. And I think I’ve allowed the slow down cuz we match up really well, in theory. Now we are finding out. The rest it seems comes when it’s time.


This is what I'm experiencing with the Virgo I'm seeing. No matter how much time apart, usually a couple of weeks, we have without seeing him, my interest grows and when I see him, the time we spend is so good, that my interest grows even more. And he has patience for me not moving fast, he's not giving up on me or rushing me. It's a great balance and I'm loving the slow pace.

I find myself reaching out as well, because I know there isn't any pressure to and he's just accepting of everything I do so far, which is amazing to me.

What sign is your new guy?


He’s :

Libra sun

Sag moon

Virgo Venus

Leo Mars

I think it’s the Virgo Venus, it’s like he’s courting.. We see each other 1x a week sometimes 2x after 3 weeks between 1st & 2nd date.. but I was on vacation & then sick for 2 weeks after so who knows what would’ve happened otherwise. We both really enjoy spending time together, non stop talking about anything & everything and he’s just so freaking sweet & respectful. It’s adorable 🥰


That's great that your enjoying yourself! The slow pace is fun for me too. I love the build of excitement that I get and the rush of adrenaline when I know I will see him.

That sun/moon combo is good and the Leo Mars to your Cap Venus is great as well. I love that combination. I have a Leo Mars and Cap Venus is really passionate to me. Like soul level passionate.


Yep! Usually Leo Mars don’t give up very easily with me lol. Once they know your interested at least. I guess the venuses match up well & me being sag/aqua seems a good match with his moon. We really connect through some of the sag traits. He’s just cautious but getting more comfy all the time 😁I really like the partnership type conversations.. he asks me my opinion a lot & is always asking what I want after I ask what he wants, and then he says it doesn’t matter to him, so I say my preference 😂😂 but if you let him, he shows you his choices. Choices & both allowing & encouraging each other’s 😍🥰❤️


That sounds more like his indecisive Libra sun, but it is nice to be heard and asked! I agree lol

The slow opening up and revealing little by little is sexy to me. I think I just like the challenge and being tortured with the slowness of itLaughing
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It’s normal Libra sun from those that I’ve dated. But choices are not so much.. we both grew up in controlling environments with none & also marriages pretty much so we understand the need to have choices. Which is good cuz other Libras I’ve dated were more controlling to get what they wanted. Even early! I feel none of that pressure with him. We are just more on the same page. smile Anyway the slowness is nice for my cap Venus. Who knew? Lol I’m just so used to beating off the aggressive ones 😂 I think this is more of what I need then the excitement of the fast pace.
My husband was not my "friend first." And, he can't be my friend outside of commitment because he is possessiveness strictly where I am concerned.

However, inside of our commitment, we act like friends... everyone says it. Over all the years of us being together people say we act like siblings. Even our names are like siblings, begining with the same letter and the same number of letters... like Jack and Jill. I'm an Aries Sun, he is an Aries Ascendant.

Outside of my husband, I thought all of my romantic relations started as friendships. My husband says they did not... the guy was just faking it because it is an easily recognizable ideal of mine based on my disposition... which is I'm rarely romantically interested in someone initially. This is an orientation that lends itself to the friendship category...

I'm lazy in romance and put forth little to no effort... a complete bag of potatoes especially in the beginning. My partner has to manage the relationship.

And, none of this has anything to do with sex. I have a casual attitude about sex that is almost strictly physical.

Aries, Aqua, Gemini
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For myself personally, I like to get to know someone before I commit or get intimate. Everything changes after being intimate with someone, so I like to be sure. It definitely does not mean they are stuck somewhere in between, I only entertain one person at a time, so even if I am not being intimate and just getting to know them, I am still very serious about them. I just like to be sure about someone before putting myself out there to get hurt.

Gemini Sun

Scorpio Moon & Rising

Cancer Mars & Venus
Yes I think that’s what’s happening and I am enjoying it, well once I calmed my Sag ass down.
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For myself personally, I like to get to know someone before I commit or get intimate. Everything changes after being intimate with someone, so I like to be sure. It definitely does not mean they are stuck somewhere in between, I only entertain one person at a time, so even if I am not being intimate and just getting to know them, I am still very serious about them. I just like to be sure about someone before putting myself out there to get hurt.

Gemini Sun

Scorpio Moon & Rising

Cancer Mars & Venus


Yes I think that’s what’s happening and I am enjoying it, well once I calmed my Sag ass down.


Enjoy it girl. It's rare to meet guys like that. Def more trustworthy than a guy who is just trying to fuck you right away. Shows his head is in the right place.
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Thanks smile yeah that’s my impression.
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What does this mean? Well ya know I get it if you met somewhere & became friends, then later decided to go for it.

But what if you meet someone you might be interested in. How does this work then? Do you ever show affection? Or this really code for I’m dating but I’m not getting physical until I’m ready for a relationship so then you’re in some in between realm.

Please state your sun, Venus & mars.
This is a good thread. So, as a Pisces Venus (Progressed Aries) I have a habit of "falling in love" way too fast. So if you get my drift, it's not really love. We are super attracted, have sex, get into a relationship THEN get to know each other and I don't like them so I leave and the person ends up really hurt because I project a bunch of shit on them from day 1. So now with my current guy, I've been moving slow. This time is different, we feel pretty close question is how close do I want to get to know him before getting really serious. We have deep conversations and I learn a lot and so does he occasionally but it's not an all the time deal so it's taking some time. Slower, grounded, stable relationship is so much better in my opinion. Yes we are affectionate and kinda act like we are already dating, we aren't talking to anyone else just getting to know one another while he works on his career and I work on myself.

Aqua Sun Sag Mars

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What does this mean? Well ya know I get it if you met somewhere & became friends, then later decided to go for it.

But what if you meet someone you might be interested in. How does this work then? Do you ever show affection? Or this really code for I’m dating but I’m not getting physical until I’m ready for a relationship so then you’re in some in between realm.

Please state your sun, Venus & mars.


This is a good thread. So, as a Pisces Venus (Progressed Aries) I have a habit of "falling in love" way too fast. So if you get my drift, it's not really love. We are super attracted, have sex, get into a relationship THEN get to know each other and I don't like them so I leave and the person ends up really hurt because I project a bunch of shit on them from day 1. So now with my current guy, I've been moving slow. This time is different, we feel pretty close question is how close do I want to get to know him before getting really serious. We have deep conversations and I learn a lot and so does he occasionally but it's not an all the time deal so it's taking some time. Slower, grounded, stable relationship is so much better in my opinion. Yes we are affectionate and kinda act like we are already dating, we aren't talking to anyone else just getting to know one another while he works on his career and I work on myself.

Aqua Sun Sag Mars
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I feel ya! I believe i had to learn this lesson post divorce. I think in my teens & 20’s I did operate more this way, not on purpose or maybe the world has just changed. I was a different person and more sexual? Maybe.. more open for sure and that seemed to attract more who saw the sexual side I suppose. Oh hell thats another thread 😂 this guy acts more like some 30 years ago .. well and he is more cautious than I am lol maybe it’s my sag sun taking risks. 🤷‍♀️ My cap Venus was a bit out of sorts on how dating works these days.. I just gave up on it all in June. A big freaking slowdown in my life overall.. And then I meet this Libra huh.
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What does this mean? Well ya know I get it if you met somewhere & became friends, then later decided to go for it.

But what if you meet someone you might be interested in. How does this work then? Do you ever show affection? Or this really code for I’m dating but I’m not getting physical until I’m ready for a relationship so then you’re in some in between realm.

Please state your sun, Venus & mars.


This is a good thread. So, as a Pisces Venus (Progressed Aries) I have a habit of "falling in love" way too fast. So if you get my drift, it's not really love. We are super attracted, have sex, get into a relationship THEN get to know each other and I don't like them so I leave and the person ends up really hurt because I project a bunch of shit on them from day 1. So now with my current guy, I've been moving slow. This time is different, we feel pretty close question is how close do I want to get to know him before getting really serious. We have deep conversations and I learn a lot and so does he occasionally but it's not an all the time deal so it's taking some time. Slower, grounded, stable relationship is so much better in my opinion. Yes we are affectionate and kinda act like we are already dating, we aren't talking to anyone else just getting to know one another while he works on his career and I work on myself.

Aqua Sun Sag Mars


I feel ya! I believe i had to learn this lesson post divorce. I think in my teens & 20’s I did operate more this way, not on purpose or maybe the world has just changed. I was a different person and more sexual? Maybe.. more open for sure and that seemed to attract more who saw the sexual side I suppose. Oh hell thats another thread 😂 this guy acts more like some 30 years ago .. well and he is more cautious than I am lol maybe it’s my sag sun taking risks. 🤷‍♀️ My cap Venus was a bit out of sorts on how dating works these days.. I just gave up on it all in June. A big freaking slowdown in my life overall.. And then I meet this Libra huh.
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Oh yea, it was just about sex back in those days. Daydreaming and psychical typical 3D shit but now I want the real deal 😈 real intimacy. My Scorpio psyche has been activated!

So you’re seeing a Libra who likes to take it slow huh? Just like my Libra Rising man 😍
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What does this mean? Well ya know I get it if you met somewhere & became friends, then later decided to go for it.

But what if you meet someone you might be interested in. How does this work then? Do you ever show affection? Or this really code for I’m dating but I’m not getting physical until I’m ready for a relationship so then you’re in some in between realm.

Please state your sun, Venus & mars.


This is a good thread. So, as a Pisces Venus (Progressed Aries) I have a habit of "falling in love" way too fast. So if you get my drift, it's not really love. We are super attracted, have sex, get into a relationship THEN get to know each other and I don't like them so I leave and the person ends up really hurt because I project a bunch of shit on them from day 1. So now with my current guy, I've been moving slow. This time is different, we feel pretty close question is how close do I want to get to know him before getting really serious. We have deep conversations and I learn a lot and so does he occasionally but it's not an all the time deal so it's taking some time. Slower, grounded, stable relationship is so much better in my opinion. Yes we are affectionate and kinda act like we are already dating, we aren't talking to anyone else just getting to know one another while he works on his career and I work on myself.

Aqua Sun Sag Mars


I feel ya! I believe i had to learn this lesson post divorce. I think in my teens & 20’s I did operate more this way, not on purpose or maybe the world has just changed. I was a different person and more sexual? Maybe.. more open for sure and that seemed to attract more who saw the sexual side I suppose. Oh hell thats another thread 😂 this guy acts more like some 30 years ago .. well and he is more cautious than I am lol maybe it’s my sag sun taking risks. 🤷‍♀️ My cap Venus was a bit out of sorts on how dating works these days.. I just gave up on it all in June. A big freaking slowdown in my life overall.. And then I meet this Libra huh.


Oh yea, it was just about sex back in those days. Daydreaming and psychical typical 3D shit but now I want the real deal 😈 real intimacy. My Scorpio psyche has been activated!

So you’re seeing a Libra who likes to take it slow huh? Just like my Libra Rising man 😍
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Yes Libra sun, Virgo Venus and he has to be sure .. no jumping into relationships! Lol

For him, he only wants to be involved with someone if they are compatible otherwise he’d rather be alone. I’m the same way but chemistry gets in the way at times. And then I end up with someone whose not good for me.

I’ve never been all about sex, it’s gotta be feelings unless chemistry is insane 🤦‍♀️ then I rationalize I guess.
Today I found some more about why.

Someone mentioned ( sorry I don’t remember who).. maybe a Libra.. that they like to develop the base first. Like build the foundation to be strong, before adding the rest on top.

It is related to his long term marriage & how it ended. He wants any relationship for now & the future to be done right.. to be stronger, more compatible etc. cautious way for sure.. but perhaps smarter.

The irony is I think it’s what I needed. To build trust. Someone to understand where I am in life, because he’s there too. Honesty and awareness. It’s quite refreshing. ❤️