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Guys I need help. To say that I'm furious would be a lie, I'm outraged.

Ignore my current state but I have couple question..

You all know I had a fight with Virgo man a few months ago that I had apologized for and he unblocked me everywhere finally and I was giving him enough space as well in between checking in to let me know if he had think about the whole situation, like every month and a half or so.. Still silence. Slowly he started removing some apps as he wasn't using them much. He removed facebook as well and I called on his number, just to check he was alright. I left a message saying we met there and the app had a meaning for me. So he reactivated it, I said thank you and left it at that.. This morning I woke up and he deactivated it again.. Now I said I would be calling him in an hour, 15 minutes left for now, that I have questions and he has to be completely honest with me.. I need to be prepared what the f*** are this games all about?? What the hell?? The thing is I opened up to him a lot during the time we were together and now thinking about all that I feel rather foolish.. 10 minutes now and I'm calling

I guess I'll find that out.
Posted by pisceanloves

Guys I need help. To say that I'm furious would be a lie, I'm outraged.

Ignore my current state but I have couple question..

You all know I had a fight with Virgo man a few months ago that I had apologized for and he unblocked me everywhere finally and I was giving him enough space as well in between checking in to let me know if he had think about the whole situation, like every month and a half or so.. Still silence. Slowly he started removing some apps as he wasn't using them much. He removed facebook as well and I called on his number, just to check he was alright. I left a message saying we met there and the app had a meaning for me. So he reactivated it, I said thank you and left it at that.. This morning I woke up and he deactivated it again.. Now I said I would be calling him in an hour, 15 minutes left for now, that I have questions and he has to be completely honest with me.. I need to be prepared what the f*** are this games all about?? What the hell?? The thing is I opened up to him a lot during the time we were together and now thinking about all that I feel rather foolish.. 10 minutes now and I'm calling

I guess I'll find that out.


If in a couple of years from now you'll go through your posting history and find this, I hope you'll have a good laugh, as much as I did reading this.
Posted by pisceanloves

Slowly he started removing some apps as he wasn't using them much.
Here’s your answer.

I highly recommend dating someone without sm 10outta 10

You know, no answer = answer. Take this silence as a “no” and move on. Person that level of drama who deletes social apps like Facebook etc. Let them be.
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Posted by pisceanloves

Guys I need help. To say that I'm furious would be a lie, I'm outraged.

Ignore my current state but I have couple question..

You all know I had a fight with Virgo man a few months ago that I had apologized for and he unblocked me everywhere finally and I was giving him enough space as well in between checking in to let me know if he had think about the whole situation, like every month and a half or so.. Still silence. Slowly he started removing some apps as he wasn't using them much. He removed facebook as well and I called on his number, just to check he was alright. I left a message saying we met there and the app had a meaning for me. So he reactivated it, I said thank you and left it at that.. This morning I woke up and he deactivated it again.. Now I said I would be calling him in an hour, 15 minutes left for now, that I have questions and he has to be completely honest with me.. I need to be prepared what the f*** are this games all about?? What the hell?? The thing is I opened up to him a lot during the time we were together and now thinking about all that I feel rather foolish.. 10 minutes now and I'm calling

I guess I'll find that out.


If in a couple of years from now you'll go through your posting history and find this, I hope you'll have a good laugh, as much as I did reading this.
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Knowing myself I know I'll be doing just that Big Grin

I'll tell you something tho, never date anyone below your league. EVER

This shit isn't a joke. I thought I got a bnice guy but this is what happens when you lower your standards period
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Posted by pisceanloves

Slowly he started removing some apps as he wasn't using them much.


Here’s your answer.

I highly recommend dating someone without sm 10outta 10
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Lady he was below my league. 3 inches shorter than me and looks wise your average guy, tho he was fit, that's about it. I'm not going to say I'm 10 but hell I'm 9 at least. Never had a trouble of finding a man but my standards, my standards were leaving me single. So I lowered it. Is there any hope for me at all??
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Posted by pisceanloves

Slowly he started removing some apps as he wasn't using them much.


Here’s your answer.

I highly recommend dating someone without sm 10outta 10


Lady he was below my league. 3 inches shorter than me and looks wise your average guy, tho he was fit, that's about it. I'm not going to say I'm 10 but hell I'm 9 at least. Never had a trouble of finding a man but my standards, my standards were leaving me single. So I lowered it. Is there any hope for me at all??


Now it’s all making sense as far as why he’s ignoring your texts. If you think someone’s worth is measured by their height or appearance you have a lot to learn.

🥴😂😂😂 good lord. You think you’re lowering your standards because he’s shorter than you? Have you considered maybe he lowered his standards by dating someone with superficial “standards”?

Humble yourself woman.
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No. That's not it. We had an amazing connection as well but initially I wasn't attracted to him until we started talking couple years ago and it developed naturally. I did mention this as a response to someone in here.. Our connection was something like I've never truly experienced it with anyone. When you have connection everything else disappears and you don't care about superficial things. I stuck with him thru thick and thin literally. The things we've been thru together, that's a lot to discuss and it's private also. He was important in my life and I just do not understand his actions. Given the fact that he literally told me I had him for life, it was that deep.

We were both to blame for what happened. I just needed him to really honestly tell me what he was thinking. If in case he didn't want us to continue I'd have known as well. Time is of importance for everyone over everything, but I also know you have to be patient with Virgo. Patience also have boundaries
Posted by ImperfectStorm

One word, boundaries.

If the man chose to deactivate **his** social media, that is 200% his choice. His account, his choice.

Learn a thing or two about boundaries and that will help you understand better how to choose your battles wisely. Maybe it’s not games at all that is the problem .. maybe it’s your control issues.
I think you didn't read what I said? His business is his of course but I had enough importance in his life for him to consider my opinion and that's why he reactivated it. Our relationship gave me full right to speak my mind openly with him. If he had a problem he'd have said so given his bluntness as I know him. Excuse me? I don't think you fully understand what it means to be committed to someone and if you want out of it it's expected that you speak your mind with due respect to another person and your relationship.
Posted by Gobbie

You have control issues.

It was his choice to remove the FB app but then you guilt-tripped him into reactivating it. However, in hindsight, he realised that you have no right to dictate such demands to him, so he reverted back to his original decision.
That wasn't the only thing I was inquiring. I had given him enough space and he knew I was expecting him to gather his thoughts. He knew we were supposed to have a conversation which he's avoiding. There's no control issues, it's all about respect and I for one am not going to let anyone disrespect me. I respected him and I demand the same in return, this is called healthy boundaries.
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Posted by ImperfectStorm

One word, boundaries.

If the man chose to deactivate **his** social media, that is 200% his choice. His account, his choice.

Learn a thing or two about boundaries and that will help you understand better how to choose your battles wisely. Maybe it’s not games at all that is the problem .. maybe it’s your control issues.


I think you didn't read what I said? His business is his of course but I had enough importance in his life for him to consider my opinion and that's why he reactivated it. Our relationship gave me full right to speak my mind openly with him. If he had a problem he'd have said so given his bluntness as I know him. Excuse me? I don't think you fully understand what it means to be committed to someone and if you want out of it it's expected that you speak your mind with due respect to another person and your relationship.


Forgive me if I misread you but your post was all over the place and a little hard to follow. Whether or not he reactivated out of respect for your “feelings” is irrelevant.. even if he reactivated before he has full right to deactivate 3x more if he wants to. Maybe it has nothing at all to do with you, have you considered that? How old are you?
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Yes I did consider this and that's why I said I'd call him because conversation needed to be held to see where he stood and just wanted to really understand him. I did call and it didn't go well. He put his phone on do not disturb or airplane mode, couldn't get thru. I know I'm not blocked because my previous calls wouldn't even ring when I was blocked..

All I can say you never really get to know someone, time doesn't matter, a year, 3, 5 or more, you don't really get to know a person. Right now I feel disrespected, misled and lied to, I trusted him completely and believed in him.

I did gave him an option that if he didn't see future for us to just let me know, simply let me know so I'd move on without guilt, that's what I was calling for. It's alright
Posted by WarAngel

You scared him off. He's not coming back.

I've already dated women like you in the past, he's already deleted your phone number.
I guarantee you you have not. But that's not the point. Scare a man off?? Oh please lmao, if a man gets scared off by having a mature a conversation then HE IS NOT A MAN.. Big Grin

Apply this to yourself as well, since you admitted you've been doing this.
Good Lord, is this the same Virgo from YEARS ago?? I just....

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I dont understand why he should keep an app he does not want because it is what you want?

Bit selfish considering your no longer together.

Best leave him be and you both continue on your separate ways.
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Posted by WarAngel

You scared him off. He's not coming back.

I've already dated women like you in the past, he's already deleted your phone number.


I guarantee you you have not. But that's not the point. Scare a man off?? Oh please lmao, if a man gets scared off by having a mature a conversation then HE IS NOT A MAN.. Big Grin

Apply this to yourself as well, since you admitted you've been doing this.


I have, and I am right now. The fact remains that you are acting completely irrational and best option was for him to ghost you.

All you want to do at this point is to have him open up a conversation so that you can dump him.
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I have not discussed my desires with you and you don't know what I want.. Therefore your opinion is irrelevant
Posted by justagirl

Good Lord, is this the same Virgo from YEARS ago?? I just....

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No Big Grin
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Posted by WarAngel

You scared him off. He's not coming back.

I've already dated women like you in the past, he's already deleted your phone number.


I guarantee you you have not. But that's not the point. Scare a man off?? Oh please lmao, if a man gets scared off by having a mature a conversation then HE IS NOT A MAN.. Big Grin

Apply this to yourself as well, since you admitted you've been doing this.


I have, and I am right now. The fact remains that you are acting completely irrational and best option was for him to ghost you.

All you want to do at this point is to have him open up a conversation so that you can dump him.


I have not discussed my desires with you and you don't know what I want.. Therefore your opinion is irrelevant


If this was a one-time thing, I would actually give you legitimate advice.

With you it's a consistent pattern and unfortunately you haven't improved at all. At some point oh, you're going to be one of those women wondering: where did all the good men go? The answer is, you were acting like an spazzed out idiot and you scared them all away.

You better start looking within and fixing whatever fucked up shit you've got inside otherwise this pattern will keep repeating until nobody wants you.
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Yeah?? Like what?? You can't even give a legitimate advice unless getting all defensive and to start assuming. I'll tell you why this happens, because I'm not your average American lady that has multiple man lined up, in case one ghosts she still has number of others she enjoys being with. I see this kind of women all around. This isn't who I am and I actually have enough respect for myself to be with one person only and not entertain anyone else in any sense. Your cultural values are not mine, because I'm not American, I'm European and we know how to value ourselves. When a man is committed - he is expected to follow thru, or in case of change of heart - to communicate.. Don't you dare try to convince me respect and common courtesy is outdated.
Posted by Queenofthepheasantfairies

I dont understand why he should keep an app he does not want because it is what you want?

Bit selfish considering your no longer together.

Best leave him be and you both continue on your separate ways.
He agreed to have a conversation with me and he hasn't followed thru?? Like what?? Virgos follow certain rules and I'm even more Virgo when it comes to that kind of stuff..
@WarAngel Waiting for conversation that was supposed to be held isn't irrationality you got some stuff seriously mixed up and I'm not explaining myself any further to you..
This Virgo is no longer interested but tried to not be rude by unblocking. In the meantime he realized it's just not worth it to even have a conversation and make his head start hurting again. You're European and maybe he's American where we don't believe in doing shit unless we want to. Virgo or not it seems he doesn't want a conversation with you.
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Posted by Queenofthepheasantfairies

I dont understand why he should keep an app he does not want because it is what you want?

Bit selfish considering your no longer together.

Best leave him be and you both continue on your separate ways.


He agreed to have a conversation with me and he hasn't followed thru?? Like what?? Virgos follow certain rules and I'm even more Virgo when it comes to that kind of stuff..
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It sounds like he has closure and you don't.

You can't make him do things he does not want to. You are no longer his concern and his concern is for himself, and him moving on with his life and if that excludes you all together you need to respect that. How long since it all ended?
Some people are just cowards, you had been dating one.

He couldn't man up to tell you he wanted out, and preferred to humiliate you instead. He's going to use your distress for not getting closure to disrespect you even further, and justify what he has done. He might have promised you whatever, but clearly he is not a man who keeps his promises.

As the "Americans" would say......you dodged a bullet.

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Posted by WarAngel

You scared him off. He's not coming back.

I've already dated women like you in the past, he's already deleted your phone number.


I guarantee you you have not. But that's not the point. Scare a man off?? Oh please lmao, if a man gets scared off by having a mature a conversation then HE IS NOT A MAN.. Big Grin

Apply this to yourself as well, since you admitted you've been doing this.


I have, and I am right now. The fact remains that you are acting completely irrational and best option was for him to ghost you.

All you want to do at this point is to have him open up a conversation so that you can dump him.


I have not discussed my desires with you and you don't know what I want.. Therefore your opinion is irrelevant


If this was a one-time thing, I would actually give you legitimate advice.

With you it's a consistent pattern and unfortunately you haven't improved at all. At some point oh, you're going to be one of those women wondering: where did all the good men go? The answer is, you were acting like an spazzed out idiot and you scared them all away.

You better start looking within and fixing whatever fucked up shit you've got inside otherwise this pattern will keep repeating until nobody wants you.


Yeah?? Like what?? You can't even give a legitimate advice unless getting all defensive and to start assuming. I'll tell you why this happens, because I'm not your average American lady that has multiple man lined up, in case one ghosts she still has number of others she enjoys being with. I see this kind of women all around. This isn't who I am and I actually have enough respect for myself to be with one person only and not entertain anyone else in any sense. Your cultural values are not mine, because I'm not American, I'm European and we know how to value ourselves. When a man is committed - he is expected to follow thru, or in case of change of heart - to communicate.. Don't you dare try to convince me respect and common courtesy is outdated.


I don't care what part of planet Earth you hail from. This is a clear and consistent pattern that I have witnessed out of you over many years. The sooner you recognize how you come across to other people, especially men that you might be interested in, you'll be able to hold on to them without them essentially leaving you in the dust.

I can set my damn watch to when you're going to explode all over the forums with your bullshit, and a consistent storyline. And it's always: it's their fault, not mine because I'm pretty.

Clean your house, the front yard might look good, but inside - it's a mess.
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Google how committed relationships work please. Wiki be your friend
Posted by Undine

Some people are just cowards, you had been dating one.

He couldn't man up to tell you he wanted out, and preferred to humiliate you instead. He's going to use your distress for not getting closure to disrespect you even further, and justify what he has done. He might have promised you whatever, but clearly he is not a man who keeps his promises.

As the "Americans" would say......you dodged a bullet.
Hurts seeing all fell apart, I was waiting for him to think things thru, how difficult would that be to talk to me. I think so yeah, It's alright. And thank you
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Posted by Queenofthepheasantfairies

I dont understand why he should keep an app he does not want because it is what you want?

Bit selfish considering your no longer together.

Best leave him be and you both continue on your separate ways.


He agreed to have a conversation with me and he hasn't followed thru?? Like what?? Virgos follow certain rules and I'm even more Virgo when it comes to that kind of stuff..


With your replies and argumentative to everyone here is why he won’t have a conversation with you. It’ll be exactly that an Argument!

Id say he’s done
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Posted by stardustmop

I can already tell you’re going to get a whole lot of hate for being beautiful and owning it. Don’t ever humble yourself. Men damn sure don’t. Men will be arrogant for no reason at all.

Humble : low estimate of one's own importance.

Why would anyone ever minimize their worth to make other people more comfortable?
Everyone has their own importance and standards, the problems occur when someone else expects them to step up to theirs thinking that they for some reason are superior.

It doesn’t matter how highly she thinks of herself, she’s trying to impose her standards on a partner which is why she has trouble keeping one around.
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I can already tell you’re going to get a whole lot of hate for being beautiful and owning it. Don’t ever humble yourself. Men damn sure don’t. Men will be arrogant for no reason at all.

Humble : low estimate of one's own importance.

Why would anyone ever minimize their worth to make other people more comfortable?
I'm owning it and you have not missed anything.. When I first got in the states I was somewhat naive and was more trusting, you can tell by the post that it's highly exaggerated as I got on this site in 2015 and at some point asked for advice regarding a man that asked for a favor. People are nasty in general, it doesn't phase me in the slightest. And if you actually look at warangel's posts you can tell how butthurt he is over absolutely nothing and pretends to know my situation way better than I do, like he has been watching me and Virgo.. Mind you I have not given any details except 2,

1.that we were supposed to have a conversation that I was waiting for, be it a closure or reconciliation

2. He did something for me which I thanked for and later he took it away..

It wasn't about particular app but the thought of it that he left it because it was meaningful for me, that action alone warranted a simple thank you, as an acknowledgement.

Posted by Gobbie

This thread is a prime reason why I have crossed Piscean women off my dating list (well, unless I encounter one who bucks the trend).

Disregarding all the positive things said about them, they can lack self-awareness, come across as delusional and lie/exaggerate with wild abandon. And when the other party has had enough of their confounding ways, Piscean women play the hapless victim, rewrite the course of events (always in their favour) and project blame instead of accepting responsibility.

The Virgo has probably had enough of the irrationality, drama and unwarranted guilt-tripping. If I were in his shoes, I probably would have ghosted you too.
I'm not exaggerating anything and I don't consider myself as delusional either.. If a man states his loyalty towards me I'll make sure to hold him accountable if the situation doesn't line up. You are either with me or you are not.. If you are not- you communicate.. And it goes both ways. There will be as many experience as there are people
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Posted by Undine

Some people are just cowards, you had been dating one.

He couldn't man up to tell you he wanted out, and preferred to humiliate you instead. He's going to use your distress for not getting closure to disrespect you even further, and justify what he has done. He might have promised you whatever, but clearly he is not a man who keeps his promises.

As the "Americans" would say......you dodged a bullet.


Hurts seeing all fell apart, I was waiting for him to think things thru, how difficult would that be to talk to me. I think so yeah, It's alright. And thank you
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I hope you'll find peace and and stop torturing yourself and the one you loved and lost.
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Posted by Undine

Some people are just cowards, you had been dating one.

He couldn't man up to tell you he wanted out, and preferred to humiliate you instead. He's going to use your distress for not getting closure to disrespect you even further, and justify what he has done. He might have promised you whatever, but clearly he is not a man who keeps his promises.

As the "Americans" would say......you dodged a bullet.
Hurts seeing all fell apart, I was waiting for him to think things thru, how difficult would that be to talk to me. I think so yeah, It's alright. And thank you


I hope you'll find peace and and stop torturing yourself and the one you loved and lost.
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Hold on, I get it now.. The text I sent yesterday I asked firmly that please do let me know what he has decided which of course went unanswered and afterwards me making a statement fb meant something for me and he shouldn't treat me that way because I don't deserve that. That's when he reactivated it and I thanked him.

Him taking it away served the only purpose for him to see if it'd get a reaction from me, which it did and I insisted to have a phone call this morning to get this out of the way soonest possible. He got it, it was only for reaction, I see the whole situation now. Never mind my feelings, never mind anything. He was just trying to get a reaction from me. This is it
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Posted by stardustmop

I can already tell you’re going to get a whole lot of hate for being beautiful and owning it. Don’t ever humble yourself. Men damn sure don’t. Men will be arrogant for no reason at all.

Humble : low estimate of one's own importance.

Why would anyone ever minimize their worth to make other people more comfortable?


Her beauty is not the problem at all. The fact that she’s shallow af is the problem…

did you miss the part where she is trashing the man that she supposedly loves, talking about how he’s such a downgrade because he’s a few inches shorter than her? She didn’t say hes a downgrade because he treats her poorly. (Obviously he doesn’t treat her poorly, or she wouldn’t be chasing him) 🥴 instead she focused on how his appearance is mediocre compared to her appearance. That’s far from “being beautiful and owning it”. If anything that’s downright shallow and ugly and I’m pretty sure that’s what rubbed people the wrong way. But we can agree to disagree.
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Stating facts isn't trashing and I had already stated other facts about him not treating me well in my original post.. You only pick up what you like
So everyone I get it now.. He did it only to get a reaction out of me, I know that. I said to him yesterday that I was asking him the last time to please communicate which he refused of course. And him deactivating fb again served the sole purpose to see if I'd ask for a phone call, which I did..

That's it, nothing else there. The man played mind games to see if I'd bite.. It's alright, I'm going to leave this thread up, he will be back with his lying, player self in a few months and I'll make sure to pay him back.. One thing that you do not do in any circumstances is to play with people's hearts and minds.. It's alright, notes taken.
That situation is even worth knowing it's not about him being afraid to communicate. Mind games that is, all mind games.
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Some people are just cowards, you had been dating one.

He couldn't man up to tell you he wanted out, and preferred to humiliate you instead. He's going to use your distress for not getting closure to disrespect you even further, and justify what he has done. He might have promised you whatever, but clearly he is not a man who keeps his promises.

As the "Americans" would say......you dodged a bullet.


Hurts seeing all fell apart, I was waiting for him to think things thru, how difficult would that be to talk to me. I think so yeah, It's alright. And thank you


I hope you'll find peace and and stop torturing yourself and the one you loved and lost.


Hold on, I get it now.. The text I sent yesterday I asked firmly that please do let me know what he has decided which of course went unanswered and afterwards me making a statement fb meant something for me and he shouldn't treat me that way because I don't deserve that. That's when he reactivated it and I thanked him.

Him taking it away served the only purpose for him to see if it'd get a reaction from me, which it did and I insisted to have a phone call this morning to get this out of the way soonest possible. He got it, it was only for reaction, I see the whole situation now. Never mind my feelings, never mind anything. He was just trying to get a reaction from me. This is it
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Silence is an answer
@Truemara Silence is only the answer for people who do not have standards.
Posted by pisceanloves

@Truemara Silence is only the answer for people who do not have standards.

You don’t get it you can’t control others

His silence is telling you he doesn’t want u or respect you. You just have to listen and chose to cut him off or continue the game.
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@Truemara Silence is only the answer for people who do not have standards.

Well your getting it? 💁
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Posted by Undine

Some people are just cowards, you had been dating one.

He couldn't man up to tell you he wanted out, and preferred to humiliate you instead. He's going to use your distress for not getting closure to disrespect you even further, and justify what he has done. He might have promised you whatever, but clearly he is not a man who keeps his promises.

As the "Americans" would say......you dodged a bullet.


Hurts seeing all fell apart, I was waiting for him to think things thru, how difficult would that be to talk to me. I think so yeah, It's alright. And thank you


I hope you'll find peace and and stop torturing yourself and the one you loved and lost.


Hold on, I get it now.. The text I sent yesterday I asked firmly that please do let me know what he has decided which of course went unanswered and afterwards me making a statement fb meant something for me and he shouldn't treat me that way because I don't deserve that. That's when he reactivated it and I thanked him.

Him taking it away served the only purpose for him to see if it'd get a reaction from me, which it did and I insisted to have a phone call this morning to get this out of the way soonest possible. He got it, it was only for reaction, I see the whole situation now. Never mind my feelings, never mind anything. He was just trying to get a reaction from me. This is it
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Sometimes we find the truth in the most unexpected way and it's such a relief! smile

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The power of silence

Silence is golden

What I'm gathering from all of this is that YOU think and feel and expect that people care to YOUR needs, feels, wants, etc.

Two-way street honey-buns.

You can't expect everyone to bend to your will (or as you say expectations.. difference there, maybe YOU should Google some shiz too, wiki be your bestie or whatevs)..

Give and take. You cannot demand someone re-install an app simply for the fact that YOU are nostalgic about it for whatever reason between you.. HE maybe (and obvs) didn't feel the same so quit trying to control the narrative and let shiz actually unfold how it should unfold.

You fly off the handle quickly it seems (coming from an Aries Mars).. like a few ppl have said - learn to sit within yourself and figure out why some of these behaviors A: trigger you.. B: take up mental, emotional, etc space and C: dictate you.
Posted by 7s

You’re probably very pretty. I have no doubt you are. The fact that you believe and affirm your own attractiveness makes me think that you truly are attractive.

I can’t help to sense that there’s something else going on.

If I’m right, only you know what that is. Maybe focus on that?

Also, a change in mental attitude always brings about success.


The kind of relationship we had was like no other. The absolute mental connection and loyalty. He always struggled with communication, I doubt it was on purpose. There was chain of phrases that he used in a conversation at some point long time ago which could be understood in different ways. Couple times I let it slid but then I point blank told him that if he wasn't satisfied and wanted us to go on our separate ways just to let me know. He didn't respond and blocked me everywhere, that was then revealed his fear of rejection. Simple misunderstanding. Then we fought because he kept pushing me away and I held him accountable for the things he had said to me, such as, "loyalty", "communication", "dedication", willingness to work things thru etc. He got upset and shut me out again and hasn't spoken to me since then which was a few months back.

I apologized for harsh words and explained myself. Urged him to please call me and let's talk. He didn't call but read messages, but I wanted to hear him too. Which I didn't get a chance to.

Then I figured he needed space and I gave it to him, checking in every 4 weeks or so to see what had he decided. Still nothing, I know him full well, I know all of his insecurities and I made sure to ease them all. I did my best but the feeling I get it now is I may overdid it. I truly wanted to make this work but he absolutely refused a phone call.

Then his games from this morning and that's it.

Now in return I feel betrayed, my dedication and loyalty mistreated and just feeling foolish because I trusted this man 100% and believed in him.

I don't know what to make of this honestly.

Edit: Forgot to mention once when we were together he showed me some photo of him and when I held his phone he was reluctant and told me not to swipe, "You don't want to see it". From then I knew he was hiding something, I don't have all the details as I returned the phone right away and I don't want to speculate..
Posted by Truemara
Posted by pisceanloves

@Truemara Silence is only the answer for people who do not have standards.

Well your getting it? 💁
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That only proves the fact that his standards are not as high as mine. Nothing can be done there
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Posted by pisceanloves

@Truemara Silence is only the answer for people who do not have standards.

You don’t get it you can’t control others

His silence is telling you he doesn’t want u or respect you. You just have to listen and chose to cut him off or continue the game.
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I already cut him off. I made him aware that I know of his games and that if he's that way he can go back and play with people he's always playing with and that's not gonna fly with me. I stated that he owes me an apology and if he's not gonna change he better not come back.. This is enough and truth to be told it doesn't even matter anymore. This morning was a major turn off,
Posted by CuddleBug1288

What I'm gathering from all of this is that YOU think and feel and expect that people care to YOUR needs, feels, wants, etc.

Two-way street honey-buns.

You can't expect everyone to bend to your will (or as you say expectations.. difference there, maybe YOU should Google some shiz too, wiki be your bestie or whatevs)..

Give and take. You cannot demand someone re-install an app simply for the fact that YOU are nostalgic about it for whatever reason between you.. HE maybe (and obvs) didn't feel the same so quit trying to control the narrative and let shiz actually unfold how it should unfold.

You fly off the handle quickly it seems (coming from an Aries Mars).. like a few ppl have said - learn to sit within yourself and figure out why some of these behaviors A: trigger you.. B: take up mental, emotional, etc space and C: dictate you.
I have no fire in my chart to start off.. Second I paid him the same respect and I didn't ask for anything that anyone else wouldn't ask.. I would have left it alone if not him playing further mind games with me. You get what you put up with and that's a no brainer. I called him out on everything and for now I'm good. I would never allow someone to treat me less and take me for a fool. This is called taking advantage and you'd be surprised how many people are inclined to walk all over you once they sense you have a soft spot for them. This is not going to happen with me ever. I watched enough abusive relationships all around to know with absolute certainty it's not going to be me.
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Posted by pisceanloves

Slowly he started removing some apps as he wasn't using them much.


Here’s your answer.

I highly recommend dating someone without sm 10outta 10
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dating apps

earth sign men are gross
Sounds like this app business was the last straw for you causing the aggravation you feel to explode, through this incident. People on this thread seem to he focused on the surface( the app) rather then the underlining issue you are having with him. Which makes you sound crazy being fixated on that even though that isn't the real issue.

TBH I would feel overwhelmed if you came at me like that over the "app" instead the main issue and nope the hell out.

Expanding on that last statement: Noping the hell out would be a good thing!

First because our communication and understanding isn't there to see thru each others words and actions EVEN THOUGH we have know each other for years, Wtf?

Him not talking to you and ghosting you with you guys relationship history should be all you need to know. Are you one of those people who needs a big blow out to sever your attachment with someone you are involved with?



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Posted by LadyNeptune
Posted by pisceanloves

Slowly he started removing some apps as he wasn't using them much.


Here’s your answer.

I highly recommend dating someone without sm 10outta 10


Lady he was below my league. 3 inches shorter than me and looks wise your average guy, tho he was fit, that's about it. I'm not going to say I'm 10 but hell I'm 9 at least. Never had a trouble of finding a man but my standards, my standards were leaving me single. So I lowered it. Is there any hope for me at all??
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Looks are one thing.

But he already pulled this ghosting stunt on you before. Incompatibility with end goals and communication are killer.

Didn’t he break it off previously and make it clear he would continue a friendship but under the condition of zero talk of a relationship?

Seems like he’s been bread crumbing you for awhile.

Equality in looks is the least of your problems. Aesthetics are nice but it’s how your treated that matters much more.

How you feel right now… harness that rage to be truly done with this situation. Close the door and put your energy towards something more fruitful. He ain’t it.
Posted by Lostthoughts

Sounds like this app business was the last straw for you causing the aggravation you feel to explode, through this incident. People on this thread seem to he focused on the surface( the app) rather then the underlining issue you are having with him. Which makes you sound crazy being fixated on that even though that isn't the real issue.

TBH I would feel overwhelmed if you came at me like that over the "app" instead the main issue and nope the hell out.

Expanding on that last statement: Noping the hell out would be a good thing!

First because our communication and understanding isn't there to see thru each others words and actions EVEN THOUGH we have know each other for years, Wtf?

Him not talking to you and ghosting you with you guys relationship history should be all you need to know. Are you one of those people who needs a big blow out to sever your attachment with someone you are involved with?
Disagree. He knew that I was waiting for a conversation we were supposed to have, after me giving him a space. I didn't mind apps, even fb for that matter but what he did, trying to get a reaction out of me got me really mad.. That moment after realizing he was playing with me, I knew I wasn't going to have his nonsense any longer.. I'm not going to sit around wait for someone while lord knows what he's doing and the same time him purposefully keep me in the dark so that way he can come back anytime when he messes up with someone else.. I know that kind of BS quite well and this wasn't the first time he did this. The main difference was that I didn't mind back then because we didn't have any commitment or established connection. Now I'm not going to allow this kind of behavior.
@LadyNeptune No. First time when we started talking after some time he informed me he was seeing someone else and I walked away. I didn't speak with him for months till he came back. Then he pissed me off a great deal by insulting me and I called him off. Then he came back with an apology and started off great and showed up the way a man should, he did a lot for me too and really was the best I'm not exaggerating, then some misunderstanding and 1st fight that led to this. I did what I was supposed to do and apologized, I own my part regardless. Shouldn't really have been that of a big deal, some harsh words have been exchanged that was it.

Oh yes I see that now. He is gone I believe. One thing I know for sure he despises being in the wrong and wouldn't say sorry. So I'm not really expecting an apology from him and I won't make fool of myself anymore.
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@LadyNeptune No. First time when we started talking after some time he informed me he was seeing someone else and I walked away. I didn't speak with him for months till he came back. Then he pissed me off a great deal by insulting me and I called him off. Then he came back with an apology and started off great and showed up the way a man should, he did a lot for me too and really was the best I'm not exaggerating, then some misunderstanding and 1st fight that led to this. I did what I was supposed to do and apologized, I own my part regardless. Shouldn't really have been that of a big deal, some harsh words have been exchanged that was it.

Oh yes I see that now. He is gone I believe. One thing I know for sure he despises being in the wrong and wouldn't say sorry. So I'm not really expecting an apology from him and I won't make fool of myself anymore.
A Virgo admitting their wrong 😱 not if astrology has anything to say about it
Posted by pisceanloves
Posted by Lostthoughts

Sounds like this app business was the last straw for you causing the aggravation you feel to explode, through this incident. People on this thread seem to he focused on the surface( the app) rather then the underlining issue you are having with him. Which makes you sound crazy being fixated on that even though that isn't the real issue.

TBH I would feel overwhelmed if you came at me like that over the "app" instead the main issue and nope the hell out.

Expanding on that last statement: Noping the hell out would be a good thing!

First because our communication and understanding isn't there to see thru each others words and actions EVEN THOUGH we have know each other for years, Wtf?

Him not talking to you and ghosting you with you guys relationship history should be all you need to know. Are you one of those people who needs a big blow out to sever your attachment with someone you are involved with?


Disagree. He knew that I was waiting for a conversation we were supposed to have, after me giving him a space. I didn't mind apps, even fb for that matter but what he did, trying to get a reaction out of me got me really mad.. That moment after realizing he was playing with me, I knew I wasn't going to have his nonsense any longer.. I'm not going to sit around wait for someone while lord knows what he's doing and the same time him purposefully keep me in the dark so that way he can come back anytime when he messes up with someone else.. I know that kind of BS quite well and this wasn't the first time he did this. The main difference was that I didn't mind back then because we didn't have any commitment or established connection. Now I'm not going to allow this kind of behavior.
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No we are on the same page, I'm giving you my perspective as someone with heavy Virgo characteristics. Also adding to it. Most importantly the fact you have known each other for years yet having this kind of problem. If you just started getting to know each other it would be understandable. This isn't the case though.

Which leads me to question taking this relationship into a romantic one were the stakes are higher then a friendship, Because not even real friends with long histories have these kinds of conflicts. See what I'm getting at?
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