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Posted by wheelhomies
would you ever date someone who was less educated than you and had no desire to become more educated, or who you perceived to be less intelligent than you? or have you already done so?



Hi Wheelie 🙂
My response will be a bit fragmented but I can't answer it otherwise...


"Would you ever date someone who was less educated than you..."
If we're talking educated as in the academic sense? Then, yes. Some of the sharpest, intelligent, thought provoking people I've met became who they are purely through life experiences as they didn't have the opportunity to pursue an academic education.


"...and had no desire to become more educated..."
Warning: Virgo Arrogant mode incoming.

No frakkin way. But I do mean it more than just the academic sense...
As a whole, I find people (not the individual person, put the entire mass known as people) get fucking dumber and dumber as they get older. It's not for lack of aptitude or IQ, but loss of drive to continue 'learning' anything beyond the lessons that affect their immediate environment / status. The loss of the drive to better one's own self.

There was a thread some of us shot the shit in a month ago or so regarding "control in a relationship" and I chimed in saying its something impacted by my ability to respect the chica I'm dating at the time. With that said, THIS specific 'hunger to learn'...'drive to better one's own self' is one of those things that builds respect for me and I need to see that in someone I'm chasing. I can't respect the person who resolves themselves to JUST being a housewife or JUST being a carpenter. You don't need a formal education to better yourself regardless of your position in life. You just need drive and attitude.


"...or who you perceived to be less intelligent than you?"
Same answer. Hell no. But again, my idea of less intelligent is not a quotient number but the lack of drive to further / develop one's self


"or have you already done so?"
Well yea! I'm a guy 😛
For all my ramblings, of course I've chased someone because she was hot and that's all she was is "just hot". But eventually, when the "fresh and new sex" beginning part of the chase is done, its kind of nice sharing a meal with someone that can hold a decent conversation and has a mind to speak with.



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It depends. I would definitely date someone who did not have a degree, but I probably would not date someone who did not graduate from high school at the very least. I'm not impressed by paper. Anyone can pick up a book and become a rocket scientist but they dont teach common sense, or intelligence in school. I would date someone who had no desire to acquire a degree but I would not date someone content at making minimum wage their entire life. You have to have ambition to elevate your status. Overall, I would never have a relationship with a man if I felt like I was smarter than him. I do not suffer fools very well.
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Hm. Good question.

I'm really "book-smart", I guess. I learn very quickly and am somewhat of an overachiever.
But at the same time...I haven't really had alot of life experience since I was kind of sheltered and babied growing up.
While my boyfriend is just the opposite. Like many Libras, he is very mentally lazy.
But he grew up in a bad part of town, with a single-mother, and little supervision. So, needless to say, he's a lot more "street smart" & enterprising.

He thinks I'm "smarter" than him...but I think he's "smarter" than me.
It's a good balance I think - because what one of us isn't good at the other is. We make a good team.

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Posted by No1delete2

wheels: would you ever date someone who was less educated than you and had no desire to become more educated, or who you perceived to be less intelligent than you? or have you already done so?

Yes, yes, and yes...

I don't give a hoot in hell for someone's "paper chase" intelligence - common sense and big boobs are more than enough.



A nice ass also adds to *cough* mental stimulation.
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in my 27 years of being on this earth, i have found out that education does NOT equal intelligence. in fact, i know quite a few ppl that were academic over-achievers but completely lacked any common sense which actually made them appear to be rather ditzy.

so to answer ur question, yes i would date someone who didn't go to/finish college and maybe is a general laborer. as long as they're self-sufficient and can carry intelligent conversations then that's cool with me. besides, 3/4 of the ppl i know aren't even working in their field. one of my good friends has a bachelor's degree in psychology and he works in sales. i know someone else who has a degree in engineering and he delivers pizza! then there's my ex of 7 years, who is a mere high school grad, and now he is a senior software developer/engineer for microsoft.

i have dated someone of, for lack of a better word, inferior intelligence compared to me. i know i know, i sound like a jackass for saying that. seriously though, he was very dim. i was with him for 3 years as a teenager (16-19) and over time i grew more and more irritated with him. what sucks is that, as dim as he was, even HE noticed that i had issues with him not being too bright. it's true, i could never go back to dating someone like him. i admit, they have to be smarter than that or i'm turned off. my ex of 7 years was the exact opposite though. he's borderline genius and i ended up feeling inferior to him. not that i ever felt in competition but his superior intelligence made me feel like i couldn't contribute to challenging him in any way. as a result i hid parts of myself from him because i feared his judgement; like i wouldn't be good enough. i'm no idiot either! so i've seen it from both points of view. i want my equal.
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Posted by wheelhomies
would you ever date someone who was less educated than you and had no desire to become more educated, or who you perceived to be less intelligent than you? or have you already done so?



i, also, think education and intelligence are different catagories. i would date someone with a lessor education if they are intelligent. i'm a sucker for someone who has common sense, or who are self-taught. i couldn't date someone who wouldn't want to learn anymore. IMO, if they don't want to learn anymore/better themselves, they've already mentally died and are waiting on their bodies to catch up. i have, in the past, dated men like that. it never worked out.
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Posted by BellaBulleautiful
I don't equate education with intelligence.I would date someone less educated,but not less intelligent.
I've known more than one college grad who could not read.



hahahah - you really are quite funny, bella.

actually, that just reminded me of something. i was having a conversation with this dude, and we got on the topic of whether or not he would be intimidated by a woman who had more education or was more intelligent than him, and he said, "no, my ex was kind of a genius. she had a master's degree." i just stared in disbelief for a sec that he had mentally connected master's degree with genius. i had to laugh, and i said, "just because someone has a master's does NOT mean they're a genius!" he laughed too and was like, "yeah, that's true. she was pretty smart though." i think he kind of expected me to think that, since i was in college, having a degree made someone really smart. i don't equate the two though at all.

i kind of asked this with a specific situation in mind so i'm sure a lot of my intended meaning was lost in translation.

Posted by Hypnotic1o1
LoL .. wheelie, not a lot of man are on your level.
And I mean this in a positive way.

*smoochies*



hmmpf, what would you know? all you can do is call me irrational and give me "smoochies".

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Bottom Line for Me:
Wheelie 😛 I'm reading back on this and I'm not sure I answered your question the way you wanted me to but I'll give you the short of it.

Its more so about being "Intellectually Stimulating" than being "Smart"
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actually, you did an excellent job of answering my question. 'preciate it. and i do agree.
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and your boyfriend sound adorable together. 🙂

Posted by Klover_Fish
It depends. I would definitely date someone who did not have a degree, but I probably would not date someone who did not graduate from high school at the very least. I'm not impressed by paper. Anyone can pick up a book and become a rocket scientist but they dont teach common sense, or intelligence in school. I would date someone who had no desire to acquire a degree but I would not date someone content at making minimum wage their entire life. You have to have ambition to elevate your status. Overall, I would never have a relationship with a man if I felt like I was smarter than him. I do not suffer fools very well.



very sensible answer.

Posted by ninjamu

i have dated someone of, for lack of a better word, inferior intelligence compared to me. i know i know, i sound like a jackass for saying that. seriously though, he was very dim. i was with him for 3 years as a teenager (16-19) and over time i grew more and more irritated with him. what sucks is that, as dim as he was, even HE noticed that i had issues with him not being too bright. it's true, i could never go back to dating someone like him. i admit, they have to be smarter than that or i'm turned off. my ex of 7 years was the exact opposite though. he's borderline genius and i ended up feeling inferior to him. not that i ever felt in competition but his superior intelligence made me feel like i couldn't contribute to challenging him in any way. as a result i hid parts of myself from him because i feared his judgement; like i wouldn't be good enough. i'm no idiot either! so i've seen it from both points of view. i want my equal.
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you don't sound like a jackass to me. i can relate very well to everything you've said actually, including the part about dating someone who's smarter than me. it makes me wonder why really, really dumb people even want to put themselves through that...but i guess if they're truly dense, then they wouldn't realize it? maybe that's why. i know i have DUHHH moments that i don't realize i've had until after the fact. haha.
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Posted by misslissa
IMO, if they don't want to learn anymore/better themselves, they've already mentally died and are waiting on their bodies to catch up. i have, in the past, dated men like that. it never worked out.



ugh, that just sounds awful. it drives me CRAZY when people don't have that thirst for knowledge and understanding...they're just content to let their brain rot right inside their skull. it's not dumbness i have an issue with (after all, it can't really be helped) so much as self-imposed ignorance. it's maddening...really gets under my skin.

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ambition. klover_fish, that's a really good point you made. ambition is important. for some people - certainly not all - continuing education is about bettering oneself...not just mentally, but in many different aspects. i guess that's why i'm somewhat bothered by a throwaway attitude toward school even though i know it doesn't make people intelligent.
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This is a hard question, I think I posted something like this a while back because I was having trouble then too lol.

At this point ... I guess because its so hard for me to obtain my degree, I would think less of a guy who had time to party and goof around instead of having a plan of action on how he wanted to make a living. He doesn't have to have a Ph-D, but he has to have something, you know what I mean?
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Posted by *Tasha
ignorant people, people who can't spell etc. really, really, REALLY irritate me (i.e. p-angel). i simply cannot deal with it




hehehehehehehe, 😛

I can't spell to save my life Tasha lol. hahaha!!!! I always have to have a dictionary or else I just spell it the way I think it should be spelled.

I'm a science major, usually we aren't good spellers 😉
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Posted by wheelhomies
would you ever date someone who was less educated than you and had no desire to become more educated, or who you perceived to be less intelligent than you? or have you already done so?



Less educated- yes
Less intelligent- never

See, for me man has to be a challenge. I have to see certain potential in him- intellectual or spiritual. I always learn from men. Not only in personal relationships but also in professional life (happened that in my workplace I am the only woman). In my particular case- intelligence is a very important factor.

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Posted by *Tasha
ignorant people, people who can't spell etc. really, really, REALLY irritate me (i.e. p-angel). i simply cannot deal with it




Hmm, interesting point of view.

I do frequently misspell and I don't feel good about that, trust me. I am fully aware of this shortcoming. And personally, I don't consider the fact of English being my not even second but the third language, as a reasonable excuse for my vocabulary negligence. However, I do not consider myself ignorant because of it and highly appreciate suggestions in this matter. This is what helps me to learn and be better


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Posted by Hypnotic1o1
LoL .. wheelie, not a lot of man are on your level.
And I mean this in a positive way.

*smoochies*



hmmpf, what would you know? all you can do is call me irrational and give me "smoochies".


We are getting divorced. You never loved me and used me to make dxp jealous anyway.
*smh*


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i never told you i loved you, behbeh. it's not my fault it took you so long to figure it out. *smh*
😛