Soul Mates...Really?

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Is there really a such thing as a soul mate? Quite frankly I think it's a bunch of bullshit but I'm open-minded. I don't know...I mean is there really something that exists consisting of an individual finding that "perfect" someone(to them)? Could it be true? Or am I right to believe that it's a load of shit?
Well if you take out the word "perfect" yes, the term soulmates makes much more sense.
There is no such thing as a perfect person therefore there's no such thing as one's soulmate being perfect period or perfect for someone else.
Soulmates def. are real. Some people don't go into dating thinking soulmates are real, but after being committed for some time to the RIGHT person for so long, grow to believe that that person is naturally their "soulmate"
Others base whether or not they've met their soulmate on how much/deep of a connection they feel in the beginning when 1st meeting someone.
So that's the difference
I absolutely believe in soulmates, but NOT the media's version.
After doing research on the origins of where the term "soulmate" even comes from, I learned that soulmates aren't necessarily just the opposite sex. They're your family members, your best friends & sometimes even animals.
Even crazier, soulmates are sometimes people you're not even meant to be in a romantic relationship with
People forget to remember that it's possible to have a deep soulmic connection with someone w/o things turning/being romantic
This quote sums up my feelings about soul mates all in one:
"People think a soul mate is your perfect fit, and that's what everyone wants. But a true soul mate is a mirror, the person who shows you everything that is holding you back, the person who brings you to your own attention so you can change your life.
A true soul mate is probably the most important person you'll ever meet, because they tear down your walls and smack you awake. But to live with a soul mate forever? Nah. Too painful. Soul mates, they come into your life just to reveal another layer of yourself to you, and then leave.
A soul mates purpose is to shake you up, tear apart your ego a little bit, show you your obstacles and addictions, break your heart open so new light can get in, make you so desperate and out of control that you have to transform your life, then introduce you to your spiritual master..."
??? Elizabeth Gilbert (Eat, Pray, Love)
Posted by krysrenee7
Others base whether or not they've met their soulmate on how much/deep of a connection they feel in the beginning when 1st meeting someone.




This has happened to me twice in my entire life, with the opposite sex though. The second time it happened it was stronger though. I met this person & it was an instant bond/connection. He felt the same way. I felt I knew him my whole life...it was just so comfortable with him. This person is still in my life but I never thought it had anything to do with a "soul-mate".
Posted by Candeh15
This quote sums up my feelings about soul mates all in one:
"People think a soul mate is your perfect fit, and that's what everyone wants. But a true soul mate is a mirror, the person who shows you everything that is holding you back, the person who brings you to your own attention so you can change your life.
A true soul mate is probably the most important person you'll ever meet, because they tear down your walls and smack you awake. But to live with a soul mate forever? Nah. Too painful. Soul mates, they come into your life just to reveal another layer of yourself to you, and then leave.
A soul mates purpose is to shake you up, tear apart your ego a little bit, show you your obstacles and addictions, break your heart open so new light can get in, make you so desperate and out of control that you have to transform your life, then introduce you to your spiritual master..."
??? Elizabeth Gilbert (Eat, Pray, Love)


Hey Candeh! Hows everything?

I agree. And I also believe in a great love. I dont think I have had that yet. Though I have had some wonderful experiences. I believe one of my soulmates is my best friend, a guy I met when I was 16. I love him so much. We are not romantic, but I am sure we were in another life.
Posted by RealTalk
Posted by krysrenee7
Others base whether or not they've met their soulmate on how much/deep of a connection they feel in the beginning when 1st meeting someone.




This person is still in my life but I never thought it had anything to do with a "soul-mate".
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Well of course not lol. If you don't believe in soulmates, it'd make sense to say that you'd consider such a deep connection to be/mean something else.
Whereas I say it's a soulmate, you may consider it your best friend, "the one" or something else.
Posted by ellybd
I thought my ex-fiance was my soulmate. Really we were both two messed up half grown children in a super unhealthy relationship lol. need these people in my life." They are people I can't let go of, and even if I had to, I wouldn't ever 'let go' fully. They have a piece off me and will always. I agree with the mirror quote from Eat Pray Love. But there's a certain healing after the pain that bring inexpressible emotions. To me, soul connections are people that come and go and teach lessons. Soulmates are just that. They stay.


Yay Elly...I think you hit the nail on the head. People miss the MATES bit. If you were mates you would stay. A mate would help another mate through whatever you faced together.
SoulMATES.
I like it. I am starting to believe.
Posted by krysrenee7
Posted by RealTalk
Posted by krysrenee7
Others base whether or not they've met their soulmate on how much/deep of a connection they feel in the beginning when 1st meeting someone.




This person is still in my life but I never thought it had anything to do with a "soul-mate".


Well of course not lol. If you don't believe in soulmates, it'd make sense to say that you'd consider such a deep connection to be/mean something else.
Whereas I say it's a soulmate, you may consider it your best friend, "the one" or something else.

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I really didn't put a title on it. He's not my "best" friend because I care for him more than that & I don't know if he is "the one" because we are casual, but we can't seem to shake each other...we can go a while without seeing/or talking to each other and just pick up like we never left each other. IDK...lol. Maybe he's my "soul-buddy" lol.
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Posted by ellybd
I thought my ex-fiance was my soulmate. Really we were both two messed up half grown children in a super unhealthy relationship lol. need these people in my life." They are people I can't let go of, and even if I had to, I wouldn't ever 'let go' fully. They have a piece off me and will always. I agree with the mirror quote from Eat Pray Love. But there's a certain healing after the pain that bring inexpressible emotions. To me, soul connections are people that come and go and teach lessons. Soulmates are just that. They stay.


Yay Elly...I think you hit the nail on the head. People miss the MATES bit. If you were mates you would stay. A mate would help another mate through whatever you faced together.
SoulMATES.
I like it. I am starting to believe.
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Im starting to believe AGAIN. There was a time when I didnt believe it anymore, but I am starting to again. I think the people that come and show us who we are and help us improve and then LEAVE are not MATES. Just people who are meant to be in our life. I want a soulMATE. I'm holding out for one. smile
Posted by ellybd
Soulmates are just that. They stay.


I would think that too. A person that is your "soul-mate", wouldn't leave you. If there is a such thing I would think this:
Soul, the emotional part of human nature; the seat of the feelings or sentiments.
Mate, a counterpart, a match, a pairing, to fit together, joining, connecting.
So with that being said, I guess you combine the two together & then you'll have "soul-mate". So I guess Krysrenee is right with anyone being your soul-mate.
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Posted by ReallyNiceAriesPerson
Posted by ellybd
I thought my ex-fiance was my soulmate. Really we were both two messed up half grown children in a super unhealthy relationship lol. need these people in my life." They are people I can't let go of, and even if I had to, I wouldn't ever 'let go' fully. They have a piece off me and will always. I agree with the mirror quote from Eat Pray Love. But there's a certain healing after the pain that bring inexpressible emotions. To me, soul connections are people that come and go and teach lessons. Soulmates are just that. They stay.


Yay Elly...I think you hit the nail on the head. People miss the MATES bit. If you were mates you would stay. A mate would help another mate through whatever you faced together.
SoulMATES.
I like it. I am starting to believe.


Im starting to believe AGAIN. There was a time when I didnt believe it anymore, but I am starting to again. I think the people that come and show us who we are and help us improve and then LEAVE are not MATES. Just people who are meant to be in our life. I want a soulMATE. I'm holding out for one. smile
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+1 smile
I don't know about soul mates.
But they are people I know who I feel I have known from a past life. Like our souls knew eachother smile
Posted by ellybd
Soulmates are just that. They stay.


That's not necessarily true.
We all have free will
Soulmic connections are so much deeper than people realize. It actually has more to do with your relations with that person in your past life moreso than your present life.
You can meet your soulmate, & w/o realizing they're your soulmate, screw them over, betray them horribly, pay them no attention & bam, that person is gone from your life.
To insinuate that this person is only a "soulmate" if they stay around is also to insinuate that some soulmates are weak, will put up with anything & have no backbone!
If people truly understand the meaning of what a true "soulmate is" THEN they'll more easily be able to "just know" when they come across them.
Soulmate & "ride or die" are 2 different things, especially considering some people stay for irrational & for all the wrong reasons vs. people only wanting to think that someone stays around/puts up with your shxt b/c they love you so much
Posted by krysrenee7
Posted by ellybd
Soulmates are just that. They stay.


That's not necessarily true.
We all have free will
Soulmic connections are so much deeper than people realize. It actually has more to do with your relations with that person in your past life moreso than your present life.
You can meet your soulmate, & w/o realizing they're your soulmate, screw them over, betray them horribly, pay them no attention & bam, that person is gone from your life.
To insinuate that this person is only a "soulmate" if they stay around is also to insinuate that some soulmates are weak, will put up with anything & have no backbone!
If people truly understand the meaning of what a true "soulmate is" THEN they'll more easily be able to "just know" when they come across them.
Soulmate & "ride or die" are 2 different things, especially considering some people stay for irrational & for all the wrong reasons vs. people only wanting to think that someone stays around/puts up with your shxt b/c they love you so much
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Maybe a soul-mate would not put you through any unecessary shit, or betray you. Could be why it's probable that they would stay.
*unnecessary
Some people believe it is a group of people that you keep reincarnate with that are like part of you soul DNA that you reconize when you meet up on the educational center(earth).
I believe that it is different for everyone.I think that everyone is on a different learning curve.I mean how do you explain the couple that met in high school and have been together 50 yrs? Or what about the person who has a rotten long term relationship,then meets someone like they are long lost halves of each,the complete each others' sentence types?Or the couple or mother and child who has found each other and only get 6 months together?
I think there are soulmates many soulmates for each of us and since we exercise free will,we might not get to meet that one and meet another one instead ,when we are ready.
Maybe there are 12 different soulmate types,like the 12 Zodiac signs.
I once told her "we Are soul mates", but I think she thought I said, "i should be a cell mate."
true story.
Posted by RealTalk
Is there really a such thing as a soul mate? Quite frankly I think it's a bunch of bullshit but I'm open-minded. I don't know...I mean is there really something that exists consisting of an individual finding that "perfect" someone(to them)? Could it be true? Or am I right to believe that it's a load of shit?


I hope I have or had more than one.
Posted by Candeh15
This quote sums up my feelings about soul mates all in one:
"People think a soul mate is your perfect fit, and that's what everyone wants. But a true soul mate is a mirror, the person who shows you everything that is holding you back, the person who brings you to your own attention so you can change your life.
A true soul mate is probably the most important person you'll ever meet, because they tear down your walls and smack you awake. But to live with a soul mate forever? Nah. Too painful. Soul mates, they come into your life just to reveal another layer of yourself to you, and then leave.
A soul mates purpose is to shake you up, tear apart your ego a little bit, show you your obstacles and addictions, break your heart open so new light can get in, make you so desperate and out of control that you have to transform your life, then introduce you to your spiritual master..."
??? Elizabeth Gilbert (Eat, Pray, Love)


Candeh, hell Candeh that is it...thankyou for posting that and you gave the lady who wrote it credit = respect
Posted by GeminiMind
Posted by RealTalk
Is there really a such thing as a soul mate? Quite frankly I think it's a bunch of bullshit but I'm open-minded. I don't know...I mean is there really something that exists consisting of an individual finding that "perfect" someone(to them)? Could it be true? Or am I right to believe that it's a load of shit?


I hope I have or had more than one.
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Do you feel you have?
I believe that every woman that I've met and will meet is, was, and will be. But, I'm leaning towards the OP that it does seem like b.s. Soul mate is something that people create in their minds in order to justify romance, thus bullshit. Divorce is still at a very high ratio, isn't it?
Posted by 69virgo
Posted by RealTalk
Is there really a such thing as a soul mate? Quite frankly I think it's a bunch of bullshit but I'm open-minded. I don't know...I mean is there really something that exists consisting of an individual finding that "perfect" someone(to them)? Could it be true? Or am I right to believe that it's a load of shit?


If you do find him,and I hope you do..* fingers crossed*) just hope you have all the heavy Pluto and mars stuff in your chart..Winking
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Why would I need heavy pluto & mars?
Posted by GeminiMind
Posted by RealTalk
Is there really a such thing as a soul mate? Quite frankly I think it's a bunch of bullshit but I'm open-minded. I don't know...I mean is there really something that exists consisting of an individual finding that "perfect" someone(to them)? Could it be true? Or am I right to believe that it's a load of shit?


I hope I have or had more than one.
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Really? I'm trying to be open-minded here, but I still don't know if I believe. I know you can feel strong instant connections with someone, but could that urge just be sexual chemistry?
It ain't sexual dear. It's emotional. Do you believe in love at first sight?
Posted by GeminiMind
I believe that every woman that I've met and will meet is, was, and will be. But, I'm leaning towards the OP that it does seem like b.s. Soul mate is something that people create in their minds in order to justify romance, thus bullshit. Divorce is still at a very high ratio, isn't it?


Yes it is still at a high ratio, and so is the mindset that it should be easy and not work from time to time.
I don't believe that every man I've met is a 'soulmate'. I believe there are certain people in my life for a very good reason. Whether it's a lesson learned, a brief period of feeling beautiful again, whatever it is; I try to take away from it all I can.
I don't believe anyone is perfect. Nor am I. So how can I be someones ideal when I know I am not. I just hold on with both hands and cling tight to the knowledge that I am loved. By friends, family, those close to me.
Aren't those types of soul mates? Maybe I dunno what the term really means to other people. I mean, if a soul mate is someone that the universe put in your life to be in love, then yeah I've definitely had more then one. But, for me I don't believe in superficial relationships. Not saying anyone else does nor am I being accusatory, but I'm just speaking for myself. Maybe there are different types of mates for different types of souls? Somebody's soul is going to hell that's fo damn sho either way, if there is such a place. I'm sure there are people in the world that's had many different soul mates and found that they were wrong. How can you be wrong when the universe put you together? I maintain that some people create there own illusion sometimes and that spooks the hell outta me. smile
*smile* I hold no illusions, I try to see into someones heart. I suppose for me a 'soulmate' is someone who feeds my soul. Of course there's a romantic leaning with that, but I don't ascribe that to just anyone. That for me is for one so I don't pluralize. I think anyone would be a straight up fool to not grab love with both hands. No matter what form it takes.
Of course I want someone ( just as psychotic as m'self ) rocking at my side. I was panning out and looking at the bigger picture. My circle if you will. My children, my parents, my friends. My supports, my anchors, my rocks.
I think in part my daughters passing taught me how very damned short life is, too short. If someone is in my life that I feel I can trust to put self in their hands, so they can protect it and hold it close..well that's awfully damned special and nothing to turn ones nose up at, ever. LOL I do so twist things, being practical and romantic is a real pain in the ass at times.
The "One" and soul mates are two different things. smile
I would agree with Cand.

The whole ONE soulmate per lifetime sounds illogical, wishy washy and boring.
Jennifer Lopez is a perfect example of a complete romantic idealist. 3 divorces with numerous break-ups.
Rationalism > Romanticism
They mos def are, Milady.
I think this thread is very interesting. I brought sweet potato cake for everyone *sitting cross legged*, continue. smile
Posted by MadameAthena
Jennifer Lopez is a perfect example of a complete romantic idealist. 3 divorces with numerous break-ups.
Rationalism > Romanticism


That's a Leo for you. Pisces are the same damn way, illusionists. At least the Leo isn't selfish about it.
OOOHHH CAKE!!!!
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Posted by GeminiMind
They mos def are, Milady.


If you so believe that, then ok. Who am I to say otherwise, for you? smile
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The "One" doesn't have to be a soul mate, yet a soul mate might not necessarily be the "One". smile
Posted by venusianbull
I think this thread is very interesting. I brought sweet potato cake for everyone *sitting cross legged*, continue. smile


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Posted by GeminiMind
OOOHHH CAKE!!!!


UhhhHUH. Dark brown sugar and pecans on the top, sweet tater/spice cake on the bottom. *setting down slices*. smile
Posted by RealTalk
Posted by venusianbull
I think this thread is very interesting. I brought sweet potato cake for everyone *sitting cross legged*, continue. smile


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Posted by GeminiMind
It ain't sexual dear. It's emotional. Do you believe in love at first sight?


Hello 2 da no. I believe in lust at first sight. I just don't believe that someone can love me in 5 minutes. What the hell would he know about me in 5 minutes that will have him head over heals? Shit, I believe he would want me heels over head in 5 damn minutes...
It's not one word to describe it, for me. It's many factors, such as mind, spirit, heart, and sexual all coming together at once. If those elements are there there is only "One" and I tend not to notice anyone else. Kinda like being in a "Zone".
oOoOOOoOo cut me a slice please
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Posted by GeminiMind
It's not one word to describe it, for me. It's many factors, such as mind, spirit, heart, and sexual all coming together at once. If those elements are there there is only "One" and I tend not to notice anyone else. Kinda like being in a "Zone".


And there's that Taurus. Big Grin
Posted by RealTalk
Posted by GeminiMind
It ain't sexual dear. It's emotional. Do you believe in love at first sight?


Hello 2 da no. I believe in lust at first sight. I just don't believe that someone can love me in 5 minutes. What the hell would he know about me in 5 minutes that will have him head over heals? Shit, I believe he would want me heels over head in 5 damn minutes...
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Some people are very instinctive, insightful, and intuitive, so it might not be that hard for them to fall for you RT. If they are among the few that have spent a lifetime honing those skills. smile
Oh definitely, I made a large bundt. Plenty for everyone. Chops are perking along too, but what the hell, dessert first.
Posted by LibraLuv
Posted by GeminiMind
It's not one word to describe it, for me. It's many factors, such as mind, spirit, heart, and sexual all coming together at once. If those elements are there there is only "One" and I tend not to notice anyone else. Kinda like being in a "Zone".


okay, I agree with that definition. However, to me, a soulmate exhibits all of those qualities thus being the "One"
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Thus, there have been more than one? smile
Posted by LibraLuv
Posted by venusianbull
Posted by GeminiMind
OOOHHH CAKE!!!!


UhhhHUH. Dark brown sugar and pecans on the top, sweet tater/spice cake on the bottom. *setting down slices*. smile


LOL..I &hearts you. and takes a slice of cake. Winking
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??? smile Everyone loves cake.
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Posted by GeminiMind
It's not one word to describe it, for me. It's many factors, such as mind, spirit, heart, and sexual all coming together at once. If those elements are there there is only "One" and I tend not to notice anyone else. Kinda like being in a "Zone".


And there's that Taurus. Big Grin
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Yeah Yeah! More cake!! Big Grin
Posted by LibraLuv
Posted by GeminiMind
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Posted by GeminiMind
It's not one word to describe it, for me. It's many factors, such as mind, spirit, heart, and sexual all coming together at once. If those elements are there there is only "One" and I tend not to notice anyone else. Kinda like being in a "Zone".


okay, I agree with that definition. However, to me, a soulmate exhibits all of those qualities thus being the "One"


Thus, there have been more than one? smile


Perhaps, for you. I do believe we have arrived at the... We agree to disagree on this one, no?
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Not now, I'm scarfin cake! Big Grin
'The One' is my best friend, my lover, my mate, my equal. Yes there will be stress, arguments, disagreements..life in other words. But I'll look into his eyes and never question that he's the one I'll want to hold hands with, even when I'm wrinkled up like a lil' prune.
And no LL to your question. But we can agree to disagree. smile
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