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Okay, so I posted once about one of my roommates and her girlfriend, whom we don't exactly like. Well, in the past few weeks, the girlfriend had been coming over more often and even staying the night consecutive nights when we made the rule that we are only allowed guests two nights a week that can stay over. So, my aries roommate told our virgo roommate the other night that her girlfriend can't stay over anymore unless it's two nights like we agreed upon. Since then, we haven't seen our roommate in like two days; we knew the other night she was staying at her girlfriend's house, but today and tonight, we literally haven't seen her all day; nor have we heard from her. Obviously she is a big girl and can handles her own, but goodness. How do we go about this now?
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Oh noo....I remember this story.

Welp honey, maybe it's a good thing that your roomate decided to take her fling elsewhere. She's doing so out of rebellion but then again, her leaving to go stay with her girlfriend is the same as her respecting you all's wishes. So technically, she kind of gave you guys what you wanted. She's NOT gonna break up with that girl so you all might as well get that out of your heads..well atleast for right now.

She's acting like a spoiled little kid who runs off & pouts when she doesn't get her way. How do you deal with that? You let them go. The WORST thing you guys can do now is cater to her tantrum(s). If she wants to go away & stay out all hours of the day/night, let her. She's grown. Better her girlfriend's house than yours!

She was probably upset with the "talk" your other friend/roomate gave her, but oh well. You guys were just keeping it real. And to be honest, it was about time! The good thing though is that your roomate had enough respect to honor your wishes after you guys put your foot down. She could've went off, caused a scene & demanded that her girlfriend be allowed to come over as much as she pleases, BUT she didn't so thank goodness she left with grace. Yeah, she's probably dogging you guys or throwing a fit over her girlfriend's house, BUT hey atleast that's less drama in your house!

I don't think things will get better until she leaves that relationship alltogether. Even if she abides by the rules & makes her girlfriend go home every night, she's still not going to be around alot and/or be that friend that you guys were so used to. It's gonna suck either way. 😢 If you guys give in, you guys will go crazy. But if you guys stand up for yourselves, someone is bound to have a tantrum & disappear altogether.

Oh well, at this point, it's just a matter of standing behind what you truly feel. It sucks that your friend is handling things this way but trust me, she'll be back.
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I suppose it's just hard because we're all very close and we all love her dearly (and we don't see her enough as is because of her major - joke in our school: if you're a music, biology, or nursing major, you have no life lol).

She actually just came back now, and I'm sure she's been back and forth between opera and being with her girlfriend. She is just as chipper as she usually is (minus being tired), but I know there will always be some awkwardness with this relationship no matter what. I think we can all deal as long as we don't lose her entirely. At some point, we will go our separate ways, but I want it to be because of our careers and such, not because of a relationship.
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Posted by P-Angel
My husband read this and asked me ... does this Candeh woman want to be the girlfriend? because she sounds jealous.



Seriously .... what is it about you and wanting to control this girl .. this is the second thread you've made about not liking that this woman wants to spend her free time with her partner.


What's the real truth here?



I brought this up because my aries roommate pointed it out, who was the one who told the girlfriend that she couldn't stay over more than two nights anymore. Yes, we do miss her; we rarely see her already and it feels like the time she has is spent with her girlfriend. We try to do things with her, but she is never around, or even if she is around she usually has her girlfriend over.

It's like the girlfriend lives here, and she really doesn't. If she is going to stay her nearly every day, then she can help around the apartment. She uses some of our things and our dishes and she doesn't exactly clean up after herself. And we go by a system that if we're bringing someone over to stay the night, we ask each other if that's okay. Our roommate doesn't ask; her girlfriend just shows up. We're used to this, but if we're all going to abide by a rule we signed in a contract, and we do, it's only fair that our roommate does the same. And there were moments where our roommate we become hypocritical and get upset with a couple of us for having people stay over for a night.

If we had separate rooms, it'd be easier to deal with. But we don't. So yeah, this whole issue does have to do with us sort of losing our roommate as well as trying to have it work out for all of us in one living space. We're not forbidding her girlfriend from coming over or even staying the night, as long as it's two nights a week like we all agreed upon.
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"Yes, we do miss her; we rarely see her already and it feels like the time she has is spent with her girlfriend. We try to do things with her, but she is never around, or even if she is around she usually has her girlfriend over."



Candeh ... you guys told both of these ladies that the girlfriend cannot hang out in the house, and the rule about sleeping over only two nights was made because you don't want this girl hanging around the place because you girls don't like her ..... so, since you have shunned your roommate into not wanting to spend time with you .. you can't now make the insinuation that her fault that you girls treated her unfairly because of your control issues.


You've shunned her .... do you honestly believe she actually wants to be with you now?

She WANTS to be with the person who doesn't push her away ... and that's her girlfriend.

You've pushed her so far away that she isn't even coming home anymore .. you did that, not her .. you.

You, meaning = her roommates who treat her wrong because they don't like her girlfriend.




Exactly like PrincePisces .... I would tell you to fuck off and then I'd go find a place to live where the people I live with actually let me live.

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It's probably due to you not having someone .... if you had a boyfriend to whom wanted to come over and be with you everyday .... you would be singing a different song, Candeh.


what you should probably do is tell the roommate to go look for other arrangements ... because there's no way for you to be able to be happy in this situation, so long as this girl wants to have the right to make her own decisions about who she loves.


Problem solved.
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Posted by P-Angel
It's probably due to you not having someone .... if you had a boyfriend to whom wanted to come over and be with you everyday .... you would be singing a different song, Candeh.


what you should probably do is tell the roommate to go look for other arrangements ... because there's no way for you to be able to be happy in this situation, so long as this girl wants to have the right to make her own decisions about who she loves.


Problem solved.



Our roommate wasn't told the girlfriend couldn't come over anymore; it's just the two nights a week rule that was reiterated. We made that rule before the school year started when we first moved in. She knows she can bring her girlfriend over anytime she wants, but staying the night is where the problems arise; especially when she gets really comfortable and making a mess; and then it feels like we're all involved in this relationship because the space is so small. While we all have problems, it's mostly our aries roommate who has to stay in the same room. And honestly, we do a lot to try and respect their space.

Perhaps I would feel differently. But I often feel odd about having guys stay over the night because I feel like it sort of invades space; I've done it a couple of times though. We are just all different in how we approach this; we know they love each other and we have no intention of stopping that; she has every right and way to be with her girlfriend, and she is. But with the way things are sometimes, maybe it is best. That's up to her, too; but by the start of fall 2011, we might all be looking for new places around/on campus (not because of the relationship, but for convenience).
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"We made that rule before the school year started when we first moved in. She knows she can bring her girlfriend over anytime she wants, but staying the night is where the problems arise; especially when she gets really comfortable and making a mess; and then it feels like we're all involved in this relationship because the space is so small."



Candeh, you are reverting back to that ^^^^ and overlooking what I'm trying to point out to you. That complaint above was the point of your first thread, that this girl was over too much and making a mess and you all didn't like her and wanted to know what to do about it. You wanted her away from your home so much ... so the rule was put into place.

The rule about only two nights a week ... so now it's a new outcome. Now in this new thread your complaint is about your friend being away from home the past two nights and how are you suppose to proceed now?

You don't want her to be with her girlfriend ... the sooner you admit that truth, the easier it would be to face this reality.

You don't want her there, so this rule was put in place .... now your friend doesnt' want to come home and so this thread come into existence because you cant' figure out why she doesnt' want to hang out with you.



The answer is simple ... because you pushed her away by shunning her girlfriend because you don't like her partner choice.

You can put up all the smoke and mirrors you want ... the proof lies in the pudding ... you put rules on her and now she's stays away from home to with her girl.


I cannot understand how you cannot see this? Is your need for power and control so excessive that you cannot see who you are stepping on?


She's allowed to spend nights out of the house ... you aren't her parent.
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Well I live on my own with my well we USED TO BE best friends now were just.. well friends leading to aquaintances. Anyway when her and I first moved in together about 2 years after school ended, we made some house rules and we both agreed that if either of us got a boyfriend/lover/fwb's etc that they could only stay over 3 nights a week and if it was more than that then the boyfriend would have to start paying shit around the house and helping with chores etc.

So in that situation I agree with Candeh but I dont agree with Candeh getting upset that her friend isnt spending enough time at home now that she's been told her gf cant be there as often (unless shes just upset that she isnt spending enough time with her friend because her gf is taking up that time) - THAT i can understand. I dont see anything wrong with the friend not sleeping at home anymore etc or spending much time there.. because I was the same when I got together with my pisces ex and my room mate was annoyed that he was over all the time so I was like okay thats fine and would spend days on end at his place and not come home..
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Posted by P-Angel
"We made that rule before the school year started when we first moved in. She knows she can bring her girlfriend over anytime she wants, but staying the night is where the problems arise; especially when she gets really comfortable and making a mess; and then it feels like we're all involved in this relationship because the space is so small."



Candeh, you are reverting back to that ^^^^ and overlooking what I'm trying to point out to you. That complaint above was the point of your first thread, that this girl was over too much and making a mess and you all didn't like her and wanted to know what to do about it. You wanted her away from your home so much ... so the rule was put into place.

The rule about only two nights a week ... so now it's a new outcome. Now in this new thread your complaint is about your friend being away from home the past two nights and how are you suppose to proceed now?

You don't want her to be with her girlfriend ... the sooner you admit that truth, the easier it would be to face this reality.

You don't want her there, so this rule was put in place .... now your friend doesnt' want to come home and so this thread come into existence because you cant' figure out why she doesnt' want to hang out with you.



The answer is simple ... because you pushed her away by shunning her girlfriend because you don't like her partner choice.

You can put up all the smoke and mirrors you want ... the proof lies in the pudding ... you put rules on her and now she's stays away from home to with her girl.


I cannot understand how you cannot see this? Is your need for power and control so excessive that you cannot see who you are stepping on?


She's allowed to spend nights out of the house ... you aren't her parent.



Don't worry. I see my mistake now. When I posted this, our aries roommate had pointed it out since she talked to the girlfriend and I had an "oh no" moment because it had been like day 3 since we last saw/heard from her. And you're right in how I was coming off after I looked back. It hadn't been my intention, but sometimes I can lose myself as you said.
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Well, I truly hope you get this ... because one day you are going to be wearing her shoes .... you are going to WANT to be with your partner 24/7, and in so doing, you will also want your friends to comprehend that it doesn't mean you like them less.



I'm sure I will. I don't know to what extent, but I can say I experienced something like it over this summer.

I think there is just bitterness amongst all of us because of drama surrounding the relationship that is brought back to our apartment and the lack of space, and our roommate(not purposefully) shunned a lot of people in the course of this relationship; I think it's what stops us from seeing eye to eye with her and it is unfortunate. But you know, the more you learn, the better one can deal with it.
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Even though P-angel completely disgusts me! (cough)...I sort of agree with what he/she said to an extent. Your roomate is still young. She's in those stages where she wants to be around her partner all the time. In her eyes, she may not see it as her abandoning or taking away from the friendship she has with you guys. She's just spending her time (mainly on her companion) just like alot of other people do when they "think" they're in love. It always sucks for the outside family members/friends b/c of course you guys can see things clearly, but the person/couple on the inside never sees it that way.

Although it would suck for the friendship to be ruined over all of this unnecessary drama, you can't really worry about that either. As long as you guys keep being her friends & being open arms of support for her, there should be NO reason for the friendship to fail. And if her girlfriend ever did want to isolate her from you guys, I'm sure she's already tried that trick by now, & as you can see, it didn't really work.

So just keep going on about your business. It sounds like the relationship she's got with this other girl period is what's causing all this turmoil but unfortunately, that's a battle you guys will lose every time b/c your roomate is not ready to see it yet. She's not ready to step outside of the love blinders she's got on. It's a phase alot of people have to go through & sadly, some even have to lose all of their friends before they finally "get it."

Some people completely isolate/abandon their friends the minute they get into relationships. Their intent was never to do so but the reality though is that 1/2 broken friendships are usually what's left/the result. And unfortunately, there's really nothing you can do about it.

At least her girlfriend is away from you guys. That's 1 less worry. I know it's easier said than done when people say, "Oh who cares, forget about it" and hey, to be honest, I'd have to seriously question your loyalty to her if you could see her going downhill at such a fast pace & yet you not be concerned. Problem is, you've got to keep your level of concernment to a medium level. If you take this stuff too personal, yes you will push her away but then again if you don't take it serious enough, they'll take advantage of that fact & purposely start abusing the rules you guys set for the house.

Just let it go. Try not to take it so personal. Just assume that she'll "get it" 1 day
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Posted by krysrenee7
Even though P-angel completely disgusts me! (cough)...I sort of agree with what he/she said to an extent. Your roomate is still young. She's in those stages where she wants to be around her partner all the time. In her eyes, she may not see it as her abandoning or taking away from the friendship she has with you guys. She's just spending her time (mainly on her companion) just like alot of other people do when they "think" they're in love. It always sucks for the outside family members/friends b/c of course you guys can see things clearly, but the person/couple on the inside never sees it that way.

Although it would suck for the friendship to be ruined over all of this unnecessary drama, you can't really worry about that either. As long as you guys keep being her friends & being open arms of support for her, there should be NO reason for the friendship to fail. And if her girlfriend ever did want to isolate her from you guys, I'm sure she's already tried that trick by now, & as you can see, it didn't really work.

So just keep going on about your business. It sounds like the relationship she's got with this other girl period is what's causing all this turmoil but unfortunately, that's a battle you guys will lose every time b/c your roomate is not ready to see it yet. She's not ready to step outside of the love blinders she's got on. It's a phase alot of people have to go through & sadly, some even have to lose all of their friends before they finally "get it."

Some people completely isolate/abandon their friends the minute they get into relationships. Their intent was never to do so but the reality though is that 1/2 broken friendships are usually what's left/the result. And unfortunately, there's really nothing you can do about it.

At least her girlfriend is away from you guys. That's 1 less worry. I know it's easier said than done when people say, "Oh who cares, forget about it" and hey, to be honest, I'd have to seriously question your loyalty to her if you could see her going downhill at such a fast pace & yet you not be concerned. Problem is, you've got to keep your level of concernment to a medium level. If you take this stuff too personal, yes you will push her away but then again if you don't take it serious enough, they'll take advantage of that fact & purposely start abusing the rules you guys set for the house.

Just let it go. Try not to tak
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Oops, got cut off

this is to Krysrenee

I will admit when I'm wrong, and I see why I am here.

I mean, we love our roommate completely. There was this one time when they were fighting in our apartment and had locked themselves in the room, and the girlfriend was just yelling at our roommate; she came out crying an hour later, and we all just stood around her and hugged her. We're always going to be her friend; we've been that way since our freshmen year. We may not agree with her relationship, but the last thing we'd do is break it up because she is happy (most of the time). We go back and forth with this relationship, and this is just another down, but I think it's getting to a point where we can all deal because we're being honest, finally.

I still try to find ways to have us four do something together (instead of us three) before half of us disperse next year, and I do think that's why it bothers me more now because I don't want her to just disappear and I never see her again without some good memories to leave with.
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Even though P-angel completely disgusts me! (cough)...






Only because you came in here quoting the write ups from astrology books and claiming them to be your own assessments .. and I continued to call you out on them because it's fucked up.

And you were in total denial of it eventhough you did it ... you fiercely proclaimed the descriptions were yours, when you know goddam well they weren't.

The reason you got mad is because I didn't look away and let you do it .. like the rest of the people in here.

so, if facing the truth disgusts you ..... then you're going to have hard roads in life.
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I dont think that its because Candeh doesnt want her friend to be w/ her gf, or because shes jealous, or because she wants to be her parent... The chick should cleanup after herself, and not to hold her to any standards or w/e but I make sure to never leave a mess at anyone else's home if Im visiting. thats just plain rude and disgusting. i mean if you wanna be a pig at your own place thats your problem but when there are other people sharin space? she should be ashamed and i bet her mom would not be very proud of havin such a slob for a daughter.

id be pissed too if someone came in here like a flowergirl but throwin her waste and makin a mess because we all know that shit doesnt get picked up magically by itself and it causes friction to other people who had nothin to do w/ it.





That was the background information, Pandoro and not the issue at hand.

The issue at hand is that the roommate has spent the past two nights out.


Let me put it in order for you.

1. the girlfriend of the roommate didn't respect the home
2. a rule was put in place to limit her time allowed in the home
3. the roommate spends less time at home to be with her girlfriend
4. the new problem is that the roommate didn't come home for 2 nights
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Okay, so I posted once about one of my roommates and her girlfriend, whom we don't exactly like. Well, in the past few weeks, the girlfriend had been coming over more often and even staying the night consecutive nights when we made the rule that we are only allowed guests two nights a week that can stay over. So, my aries roommate told our virgo roommate the other night that her girlfriend can't stay over anymore unless it's two nights like we agreed upon. Since then, we haven't seen our roommate in like two days; we knew the other night she was staying at her girlfriend's house, but today and tonight, we literally haven't seen her all day; nor have we heard from her. Obviously she is a big girl and can handles her own, but goodness. How do we go about this now?





Look at the OP, Pandora .. this is the issue .. it's about the roommate not being heard from and now how are they suppose to proceed.


The girl not respecting the home was the reason the rule was put into place .... we're past that, a rule was made ... now we're upset because this rule didn't solve the problem, the roommate still has girlfriend.
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P is right that I didn't see my own reasons for making this thread. I did come off crazy and jealous, like I'm some ex-girlfriend. I'm going to explain my reasons, though; and this is from a purely emotional place. I'm not saying I am right or she is wrong, or vice versa, but why my roommates and I feel so frustrated.

It's very hard to see your friend slipping away from you. Not just your friend, but one of your closest; we've known this roommate for such a long time and have lived with her for a while; we've seen her at her best and very worst; we've done so many things together, especially last year. She brings us a lot of joy, even when she frustrates us. Since she began dating her girlfriend back in May, we've also seen her change. Not just us, but everyone; her colleague, music friends, ect. When our roommate came to us angry because she didn't understand why her music people were beginning to turn her back on her, we couldn't explain to her that she was doing the same. Our roommate and her girlfriend are very dependent upon each other, more so the girlfriend; like, the girlfriend manages pools and she would make her come out to the pool to be with her; one day our roommate said she was too tired to come, and the girlfriend got so mad and hung up on our roommate. We were floored, but I think our roommate ended up going anyway. We just often feel like she is constantly picking her girlfriend over us; it is such a selfish reason, but I think what makes it harder is that we can't fix it. We rarely see her to begin with, but when she isn't in class, she's with her girlfriend; when she's here, she's with her girlfriend locked away in the room or she's leaving to go elsewhere. We look at her without really verbally saying, "Can you just hang out with us... just a day... please?" Like this weekend, we tried to get her to come to a Chanukah dinner, but she can't come. She still hasn't been home, and we know we probably won't see her much because it's almost winter break (in two or three weeks). We see the ups and the downs of this relationship, and all we can do is be there for her. We know she's not doing it on purpose; she has every right to be with her girlfriend, and if she wants to stay with her, we (or at least I) understand. But it feels empty, and we get upset because we don't have our friend anymore, and when we do, we have to face her relationship head on. There are times when we're cool with her girlfriend, but then things start to get awkward
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when the girlfriend becomes too comfortable, is making odd gestures towards us (like she kissed our necks once without our consent, even if it was jokingly), and sleeping over every night. So then we have to remind them that the girlfriend doesn't live here and that we can't always deal with the drama they are bringing from the music department. Our aries roommate who lives in the same room as them often feels her privacy and space is violated because on more than one occasion they've initiated sexual acts while she's been up and literally several feet away. She's the one who usually tells the girlfriend that she can't stay over, especially when she has to get up early for work or class.

I still feel some animosity because when that roommate and I rented a house with a friend over the summer, she was never home. I was left to take care of a lot of things, and I would get lonely or afraid because we lived in the woods. I would never ask her to come home to help me, but I would get frustrated because when she did, her girlfriend was there, and we shared a room. In the morning they would be gone (and the roommate would sometimes ask me if I would make sure her girlfriend got up when her alarm went off at like 6), so I was left to take care of the place and two dogs on my own (our other friend was rarely home too).

So, this is why. We feel a lot of this frustration and a lot of it is selfish. We just want our friend back for like one second without her girlfriend attached to her. We just want to be able to play video games again, to go out, to see her in general. We just want to be together again before we really never see her (she says she wants to move off campus to another apartment because of costs and if possible, by her girlfriend if they are still together - we know if and when this happens, we're never going to see her). But you know, we have to learn to deal. We won't stop being there for her. I have no right acting like a crazy girlfriend. But this is probably all the underlying reasons for this.
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It is no nice that she has friends who want her to be happy .. and isn't it lovely that people actually mold themselves into being a good partner for another, by choice?

She's fortunate to have you ... because there are so many people out there who only look out for themselves and what makes them happy, and then expect others to never have a life unless they are in it. Not her though .. she has great friends who are estatic for her that she has found a life partner to share her deepest emotions with.


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I have dumped a friend for this same principal.

Her daughter likes black men .. she wont' even consider dating a white guy, and my ex-friend, to whom I've known since childhood will not relent, she will not accept this.

So, my ex-f told her daughter that he (her boyfriend) isn't welcome in the house, he isn't invited to any social gatherings, and she told her daughter that she if forbidden to be with him.


Guess what? She hasn't seen her daughter in quite some time ... and then bitches about her daugher leaving like that, how dare her ignore the family like that.


I tried to get her to see the light .. explained everyway I could that her daughter is a woman now, and as a human being, she has a RIGHT to decide her life, AND if you push the man she loves away .. then you push her away too. Did she get that? No.

Hence: Ex-friend


Good news: Daughter is married to the man she loves and is expecting her first child, and her sisters have the right-mindedness to comprehend that if they love her, then they love the man she chooses.


Ironically, my ex-friend's mother hated her husband, and father of her children because he is Italian, and a catholic .. my friend can "get" that she NEEDED to be with the man she loved, no matter what .. while being completely blind to her double-standards with her own children.


Pity for her .... she loses
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Suggestion to you ....



If you decide that you want to like the woman she loves, because you want the best for her happiness ..... you might just find that your friend wants to spend time with you.

Try it .... what can you lose that would hurt worse than the possibility of losing a close friend?


You might just find that it feels good to want what's best for her = being intimately loved.
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Posted by P-Angel
Suggestion to you ....



If you decide that you want to like the woman she loves, because you want the best for her happiness ..... you might just find that your friend wants to spend time with you.

Try it .... what can you lose that would hurt worse than the possibility of losing a close friend?


You might just find that it feels good to want what's best for her = being intimately loved.




My aries roommate and I once said that our contempt for the girlfriend wasn't completely confined to the girlfriend herself as a person; yes, she unsettles us and we don't jump for joy when we hear her name, but what really seemed to cause the problem was the whole situation itself. The more things escalated, the more we disliked her. When things were smooth, we were able to like her more. We know we will never be like best buds with the girlfriend, but we don't hate her like some of our roommate's friends do. And I think the whole reason we don't is because we know our roommate loves her. We told her, we put up with her girlfriend as much as we can because she makes the roommate happy.

We do need to try harder sometimes, and we can have good conversations with her. Like I said, this is just a low point, and we have to build to get to a better one. Our roommate isn't breaking up with her girlfriend anytime soon, and to be honest, if she did right now, she wouldn't be as happy meaning it'd be bad news bears for a bit. But as long as they are together, we can try to be more genial so that we can be with our roommate more.
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Posted by sweethearts
@ Kry, I've seen you say a few times that you had blocked P— Did you unblock her?




No. Back then, she got on my last nerves & I don't have any reason to believe that he/she has changed one bit, so yes P Angel is still blocked on my end.


I think what it all boils down to is this: We can all sit here all day & over-analyze this whole situation. Truth is, it is what it is. Everyone in this situation is going about things in the best way they know how. Everyone's different methods/ways for which they go about handling things may clash but at the end of the day, what you see is what you get.

There could be 1 million things Cand is doing wrong & there could be another 1 million things her roomate & girlfriend are doing wrong and/or things they could all be doing better. BUT, as long as the friendship is still there & as long as you still have access to her, that's all that matters.

A person cannot change what they refuse to acknowledge. And no matter how much someone else's decision(s) annoy us, we will only drive ourselves crazy trying to change something or "wish" before the people with the real power are even ready to.

Cand...you have very valid concerns. You're like the average friend or family member or parent, etc. who can't really get a full night's worth of sleep b/c your loved one isn't in the healthiest relationship/situation. Of course, sometimes you might take things a little too personal & you might be harping on things you can't & won't ever be able to control, BUT you do have valid concerns, so don't start 2nd guessing yourself. How you feel is how you feel. How you perceive things is how you perceive things. It's not about changing how you feel; it's about ACCEPTING what is!

After awhile, you just have to accept what is. There are 1 million "What ifs" & "I wish's" here but you'll all drive yourself nuts trying to harp on something neither of you can control...well atleast not for right now. Just keep doing you. Just HOPE & assume that your friend will come back to planet earth one day soon & hopefully before it's too late. In the meantime, just keep being her support system & accept things as they are

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Posted by sweethearts
@ Kry, I've seen you say a few times that you had blocked P— Did you unblock her?




No. Back then, she got on my last nerves & I don't have any reason to believe that he/she has changed one bit, so yes P Angel is still blocked on my end.


I think what it all boils down to is this: We can all sit here all day & over-analyze this whole situation. Truth is, it is what it is. Everyone in this situation is going about things in the best way they know how. Everyone's different methods/ways for which they go about handling things may clash but at the end of the day, what you see is what you get.

There could be 1 million things Cand is doing wrong & there could be another 1 million things her roomate & girlfriend are doing wrong and/or things they could all be doing better. BUT, as long as the friendship is still there & as long as you still have access to her, that's all that matters.

A person cannot change what they refuse to acknowledge. And no matter how much someone else's decision(s) annoy us, we will only drive ourselves crazy trying to change something or "wish" before the people with the real power are even ready to.

Cand...you have very valid concerns. You're like the average friend or family member or parent, etc. who can't really get a full night's worth of sleep b/c your loved one isn't in the healthiest relationship/situation. Of course, sometimes you might take things a little too personal & you might be harping on things you can't & won't ever be able to control, BUT you do have valid concerns, so don't start 2nd guessing yourself. How you feel is how you feel. How you perceive things is how you perceive things. It's not about changing how you feel; it's about ACCEPTING what is!

After awhile, you just have to accept what is. There are 1 million "What ifs" & "I wish's" here but you'll all drive yourself nuts trying to harp on something neither of you can control...well atleast not for right now. Just keep doing you. Just HOPE & assume that your friend will come back to planet earth one day soon & hopefully before it's too late. In the meantime, just keep being her support system & accept things as they are

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Wait... I'm confused... so how did you know you agreed with what she said?
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You're supposed to keep the genes dominant by marrying your own. That's the whole point here and probably why you're friend's dad was not happy with her dating black men. People don't think about what that does to their kids who don't know if they're white or black. They will never fit in. And pure breads are just worth more. You're supposed to keep traditions and cultures too and when you have kids outside your nationality you just make a mut, and a mess. People don't think about what that does on the larger scale, they just think, "Oh well, not in my lifetime will it be a problem."

But that's wrong. Do you know why Muslims and Arabs are going to take over? It ain't because of their bombs, it's because of their babies.

White people (Scotish, British, German, Irish) have an average of 1 kid.

Italians have an average of 2-3 kids.

Black people have 4 kids

Puerto Ricans have 4 kids

Muslims have more than 6 on average.




And that's exactly why they're going to take over.




@ DD

Is that what you really believe—
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You're supposed to keep the genes dominant by marrying your own. That's the whole point here and probably why you're friend's dad was not happy with her dating black men. People don't think about what that does to their kids who don't know if they're white or black. They will never fit in. And pure breads are just worth more. You're supposed to keep traditions and cultures too and when you have kids outside your nationality you just make a mut, and a mess. People don't think about what that does on the larger scale, they just think, "Oh well, not in my lifetime will it be a problem."

But that's wrong. Do you know why Muslims and Arabs are going to take over? It ain't because of their bombs, it's because of their babies.

White people (Scotish, British, German, Irish) have an average of 1 kid.

Italians have an average of 2-3 kids.

Black people have 4 kids

Puerto Ricans have 4 kids

Muslims have more than 6 on average.

And that's exactly why they're going to take over.




Your post is stupid.

I've actually read many articles supporting the idea of interacially mixed people being healthier and more physically attractive. There is a book I've heard of (which I have not read by Alon Ziv) delving further into the topic. You might want to check it out for some newer points of views to consider.

In any case, looking at this idea of multi racial backgrounds and better health from a simplistic perspective makes sense when you take into account the fact that the smaller the gene pool the wider the possibility of birth defects. So why not the opposite outcome with a larger gene pool?


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I'm actually bringing this topic back up momentarily with an update. But not a bad one, fortunately.

Things have gotten a lot better with our handling of our roommate's relationship. After things began to escalate again, we finally got our roommate to side down so all four of us were together. We had a meeting about how we've all been dealing with our apartment and letting it get out of hand, and finally my aries roommate said to our virgo roommate, "We have to talk about your girlfriend and how often she is staying over here." When we had out meeting, the girlfriend had been back over for like five nights in a row,but when brought up finally, our roommate said to us that she already knew. She explained that she and her girlfriend had already talked because she knew things were getting out of hand and were planning on working on their time together over the next semester. And the girlfriend even had a conversation with our roommate stating that they HAD been spending too much time together and needed to work on that. Our roommate apologized, and I brought up a suggestion of ways we could all spend time together since we never got too. Our roommmate. suggested that we make a day where we get lunch once a week together or cook together. Since that evening, things have been running so much better with all of us, the girlfriend included. Our animosity towards her is actually growing smaller and our roommate is finally respecting our aries roommate's space and understands that some things need to be worked out.