beautifulsoul74
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What is Unconditional Love?
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That part that you disagree on I actually agree with you. Simply playing devils advocate lol. It never ceases to amaze me how people manage to screw up a simple concept like love. A person could be the perfect lover for them, and yet they screw it up and come on here and gripe. It does make for great entertainment though lol. Honestly, while there are bad people, people fail to look at the most obvious...themselves. In all of their failed relationships, the common denominator is them. But that means facing yourself.
my def for it is... having love for someone else under no conditions of having their love given back. No expectations.
real definition or not... thats the closest i'll ever get to unconditional love. to say you'll love someone unconditionally no matter what they do... well, people are capable of many things. I hear parents say it all the time... and perhaps it's real and they mean it. but I'm a skeptic.
real definition or not... thats the closest i'll ever get to unconditional love. to say you'll love someone unconditionally no matter what they do... well, people are capable of many things. I hear parents say it all the time... and perhaps it's real and they mean it. but I'm a skeptic.
sorry baby..there's no such thing as unconditional love nowadays..
Posted by Rockthenerds
Treat people how you'd like to be treated.
That is selfish and extremely conditional.
Unconditional love is impossible.
Unconditional love is real and possible. P-Angel has not experienced it. As a Taurus, this is what we (I) seek. I came very close to this many years ago. Unconditional love as capgirl75 states is true for most parent/child situations. This depends on the parent.
Unconditional love is to understand your partner, respect what they want/need. This must also be returned by your spouse. This is very difficult to achieve as each person has a hidden agenda to what they want in a relationship.
I still believe in it even afer many disappointments with people.
Unconditional love is to understand your partner, respect what they want/need. This must also be returned by your spouse. This is very difficult to achieve as each person has a hidden agenda to what they want in a relationship.
I still believe in it even afer many disappointments with people.
What is Unconditional Love? Freedom
@Elusive
Freedom starts from within first, how you love yourself will determine the limits and freedoms you'll be able to give not just to yourself but to your lover, when you do not need nor expect your lover to show up in the image of any other way but the image that he truly is then therefore you don't seek, demand, want from another which is the greatest freedom for not just your lover but for yourself as well. When you love someone you grant him/her total freedom to be who they are, this is the one of the greatest gifts you could give to your lover and love always gives the greatest gifts.
Freedom starts from within first, how you love yourself will determine the limits and freedoms you'll be able to give not just to yourself but to your lover, when you do not need nor expect your lover to show up in the image of any other way but the image that he truly is then therefore you don't seek, demand, want from another which is the greatest freedom for not just your lover but for yourself as well. When you love someone you grant him/her total freedom to be who they are, this is the one of the greatest gifts you could give to your lover and love always gives the greatest gifts.
Sorry I hadn't responded in a while. For some reason the servers keep messing up. Your responses warm my heart as my intentions were to start a conversation about love and I typical Sag fashion, I asked a direct question. RTN, Elusive Soul, Pecheresse, and others, your responses comprise the mystery and answer of love. They also defined the internal battle that wages in all of us. Love vs Selfishness. Good versus Evil. We all have an instinctive sense of what love is. We spend our entire lives learning to define it and use it. As we grow older, we love based upon our understanding of it at that time. The true power of love is loving not out of want or need, but because you choose to. It is freedom. It is individuality. It is beauty, harmony, peace. In essence, it is all because God is all. Simply put, you live it because it is a state of being and is spiritual. When you live it, you give it. That gift is the one thing that everyone on this earth searches for. It is the embodiment of God in the acceptance of you by someone else and they love you fully. That gift is so precious, that it defines what it means to truly live. We all have a deep longing for that one special person to share life with. To grow old with and have children. To look in their eyes and see God and it's the same when they stare at you. But it requires the ultimate sacrifice of self. Of the ego. As one put it, selfishness and love cannot coexist equally in the same space. One will overtake the other. I personally believe in love not as an ideal, but as a way to live. To give. To love...fearlessly. I guess...I'm a hippie at love too :-)
Posted by RockthenerdsPosted by beautifulsoul74
We all have an instinctive sense of what love is. We spend our entire lives learning to define it and use it. As we grow older, we love based upon our understanding of it at that time. The true power of love is loving not out of want or need, but because you choose to. It is freedom. It is individuality. It is beauty, harmony, peace. In essence, it is all because God is all. Simply put, you live it because it is a state of being and is spiritual. When you live it, you give it. That gift is the one thing that everyone on this earth searches for. It is the embodiment of God in the acceptance of you by someone else and they love you fully. That gift is so precious, that it defines what it means to truly live. We all have a deep longing for that one special person to share life with. To grow old with and have children. To look in their eyes and see God and it's the same when they stare at you. But it requires the ultimate sacrifice of self. Of the ego. As one put it, selfishness and love cannot coexist equally in the same space. One will overtake the other. I personally believe in love not as an ideal, but as a way to live. To give. To love...fearlessly. I guess...I'm a hippie at love too :-)
Huge +1 Thanks,click to expand
No problem...just spreading tha love :-)
Unconditional love doesn't exist .. except in your fantasy.
Look around you, look at yourself ... every person knows fulls well that if they aren't treated according to their own standards of how they believe they deserve to be treated, then they protest. Perhaps, they might withdraw and never address it, due to having confrontation issues, but, that doesn't mean that they aren't in protest of being treated against their own standards.
And this involves EVERY relationship .... if your nine-year-old turned and said, 'Fuck you bitch, I hate you" .... do you honestly think you are going to smile at your son and believe that is ok?
What idiocy ...
If your husband decided that he wanted to go the beach and hang out with the next door neighbor who has been hitting on him and winking at him .... you have to pack his cooler, and his beach towel and send him on his way with a smile and a sincere contentment that you love him unconditionally.
:::: shakes head ::::
People are so fucked up .. and they don't even know it.
Look around you, look at yourself ... every person knows fulls well that if they aren't treated according to their own standards of how they believe they deserve to be treated, then they protest. Perhaps, they might withdraw and never address it, due to having confrontation issues, but, that doesn't mean that they aren't in protest of being treated against their own standards.
And this involves EVERY relationship .... if your nine-year-old turned and said, 'Fuck you bitch, I hate you" .... do you honestly think you are going to smile at your son and believe that is ok?
What idiocy ...
If your husband decided that he wanted to go the beach and hang out with the next door neighbor who has been hitting on him and winking at him .... you have to pack his cooler, and his beach towel and send him on his way with a smile and a sincere contentment that you love him unconditionally.
:::: shakes head ::::
People are so fucked up .. and they don't even know it.
@P-Angel:
Is it a question of protesting against being treated differently from your standards or simply using that innate sense of right from wrong that we all have? Using your example, no you're not suppose to smile at your child when they cuss you out because it is wrong for a child to do that. It involves the standard of you being the parent and your child respecting you because of that fact and the sense of it being wrong to curse the one who is partly responsible for giving you life. Unconditional love involves two things: love of self and love of others. When to use one of those two parts involves the situation. That woman who's husband is flying off with the neighbor and packs his bags with a smile is using love whether she stays with him or leaves him. She could continue to do so and he ultimately changes and respects her, which is unconditional love or she could leave him because she loves herself unconditionally. Both avenues involve pain. She could endure the pain of a cheating husband and he could ultimately change and treat her right or she could endure the pain of a divorce and find someone who treats her right. Who's to say and that's the point.
A lot of people walk through life with a sense that because they wouldn't handle a situation a certain way or they have certain standards and principles that somehow they are more advanced or superior. Wisdom is applying the right standard to the right situation. But because of fear and or/ selfishness we develop standards, and misappropriate them. We then fault others for not following our standards and unfairly misjudge them, when we are all imperfect and are capable of mistakes and disappointment. Your example perfectly illustrates that fact. You are applying your standard or sense of right from wrong to a situation that you're not involved in and criticize the other person for not making a decision that you would make when even you don't know the truth or how it will ultimately turn out. At the end of the day, love is a choice. How you choose to use it is up to you.We are all human and imperfect and shouldn't judge others for how they choose to love.
Is it a question of protesting against being treated differently from your standards or simply using that innate sense of right from wrong that we all have? Using your example, no you're not suppose to smile at your child when they cuss you out because it is wrong for a child to do that. It involves the standard of you being the parent and your child respecting you because of that fact and the sense of it being wrong to curse the one who is partly responsible for giving you life. Unconditional love involves two things: love of self and love of others. When to use one of those two parts involves the situation. That woman who's husband is flying off with the neighbor and packs his bags with a smile is using love whether she stays with him or leaves him. She could continue to do so and he ultimately changes and respects her, which is unconditional love or she could leave him because she loves herself unconditionally. Both avenues involve pain. She could endure the pain of a cheating husband and he could ultimately change and treat her right or she could endure the pain of a divorce and find someone who treats her right. Who's to say and that's the point.
A lot of people walk through life with a sense that because they wouldn't handle a situation a certain way or they have certain standards and principles that somehow they are more advanced or superior. Wisdom is applying the right standard to the right situation. But because of fear and or/ selfishness we develop standards, and misappropriate them. We then fault others for not following our standards and unfairly misjudge them, when we are all imperfect and are capable of mistakes and disappointment. Your example perfectly illustrates that fact. You are applying your standard or sense of right from wrong to a situation that you're not involved in and criticize the other person for not making a decision that you would make when even you don't know the truth or how it will ultimately turn out. At the end of the day, love is a choice. How you choose to use it is up to you.We are all human and imperfect and shouldn't judge others for how they choose to love.
Posted by beautifulsoul74
You are applying your standard or sense of right from wrong to a situation that you're not involved in and criticize the other person for not making a decision that you would make when even you don't know the truth or how it will ultimately turn out.
Well, isn't that a crock of shit .. or maybe it's just you who is full of shit, because it seems to me that ....
Posted by beautifulsoul74
Hey everybody! I'm a male Sag and I wanted to see what others think unconditional love is. Since my sign is known for its opinions, wanted or not, I wanted to go ahead and state what I feel unconditional love is and why.
With that being said, what do you think about unconditional love and how we should love one another?
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... the Opening Post start with "Hey everybody" .. which makes me a direct participant to be involved, since I am part of the everybody .... and, then ends with asking the question of how I feel about it, since "I" am a part of the everybody.
So, the reality is .... you didn't like my answer, judged it, then put a condition on whether I should be allowed to have an answer based off of my truth unconditionally, then voiced it, attempting to hide that you just showed yourself as proving me right.
A person is conditional, and THAT is the TRUTH no matter how matter deep you dig your sand so you can stay hidden while you pretend that some invisible god loves you unconditionally.
btw .. if you don't believe in him, then you'll be punished, it's called "burning" ... *cough* condition
@beautifulsoul74
As the name implies, Unconditional Love is an intense feeling of affection for someone/something that doesn't need anything in return for it to exist. I don't think that kind of love exists because the emotion we humans feel and define as "Love" needs to be nurtured to exist. The whole idea of Unconditional Love is something that exists and is fueled out of nothing. You could call it a "miracle", and i don't think miracles do exist. Also i don't even believe in the same God you believe in so it's not a surprise that our respective perspectives and outlooks of the world are completely different.
You need to give something in order to receive something. Also you don't always end up receiving what you want to receive. It's complicated.
As the name implies, Unconditional Love is an intense feeling of affection for someone/something that doesn't need anything in return for it to exist. I don't think that kind of love exists because the emotion we humans feel and define as "Love" needs to be nurtured to exist. The whole idea of Unconditional Love is something that exists and is fueled out of nothing. You could call it a "miracle", and i don't think miracles do exist. Also i don't even believe in the same God you believe in so it's not a surprise that our respective perspectives and outlooks of the world are completely different.
You need to give something in order to receive something. Also you don't always end up receiving what you want to receive. It's complicated.
First, where did I state that because I don't agree with your view that you couldn't participate? Nowhere. Second, the topic is what you think unconditional love is and why, not whether you believe in it or not. Third, thank you for proving my point in your response. I don't care whether someone believes in God or not. To each his/her own. What you choose to believe or not believe is well within your rights. Just like posting a statement that has nothing to do with the topic. I stated that my views on love comes from my belief in God and not whether you should believe in him or not. Seems everyone else got that. You come on here and insult people because they choose to handle a situation the way that you wouldn't, then you have the nerve to get pissy when you get called out on your logic. For example, the mother who smiles because her child cursed her out coud then beat his/her ass later. Or the woman who smiles while packing her cheating mans bags could be smiling because she is picking up her side man from that very same airport while dropping her man off. But because you think you know what is going on because of what you see and are not involved, you judge her and call both people stupid because they don't handle the situation they way you would or for still loving that man or child all the same. Like I said before, the topic is about what it is, not how you apply it. You brought application into the discussion, not I.
My last post was pointed was directed at P-angel.
Posted by Rockthenerds
@ blueNot complicated at all when you take out the socially conditioned, pop culture sense of the the last word. Romantic love isn't the end all be all of the word. You can't sum of the experience of love for everyone in terms of cheating, behavior this and he said she said that unless you're just attracted to complicated things then, fine do that but A human needs to be nurtured. Love just is, and cant be anything else. Intense feelings? No, this idea is what is fed to the masses by the media playing the same bs on the radio and on television. I know you're young, but even in my teens I knew love wasn't just some intense feelings and I got them all the time of course, but Those come and go. Love is forever. You can't give or get anything from it like you can a human. This has already been stated multiple times I really don't think beautiful should have to keep repeating himself in different way. Believe what you believe fine, but people shouldn't be trying to twist op's words to make it look like as though he doesn't know what he's talking about because he does. The title simply asks what is it. Not what it isn't or where it exists...obviously he's experienced it and some people haven't...
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Doesn't matter what the definition of "unconditional love" is......the point is HOW to find it......———?!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by RockthenerdsPosted by luckystar007
Doesn't matter what the definition of "unconditional love" is......the point is HOW to find it......———?!!!!!!!!!!
Hi lucky!, well this question has been answered a few times but in different ways. The definition, whether one acknowledges it or not, is 'you'. It matters because 'you' matter, but can you really be defined?. To find it is to look at yourself. Unconditional love is no different than universal love. It's not in religions and the magazines and relationship dramas that stir up our deepest emotions . People use these as excuses to isolate themselves from what they don't understand. They are afraid of the unknown and rightfully so. They only understand emotion because it's all they'eve experienced, yet this is not unconditional love. When you look at it for what it is rather than some place to get to or something you have to earn that can be given or taken away, then it should start to make more sense.click to expand
Huge +1 RTN
To your point and Lucky's statement, that is why it is so hard to find because people make it conditional because of who they are and not because of what love truly is. How you love yourself versus others is interchangeable. While I can leave someone I truly love because they mistreat me, that same love will lead me to sacrifice my kidney or even my own life in order to save theirs....if you get what I'm sayin lol
To be honest, I don't think Unconditional Love is able to be found by humans......it is a best GIFT from God really 😄
For humans, we need pray to God...then with God's blessing...there is a good chance to find it. 😛
For humans, we need pray to God...then with God's blessing...there is a good chance to find it. 😛
To be honest, I don't think Unconditional Love is able to be found by humans......it is a best GIFT from God really 😄
For humans, we need pray to God...then with God's blessing...there is a good chance to find it. 😛
For humans, we need pray to God...then with God's blessing...there is a good chance to find it. 😛
I say love to be unconditional. It's the creator of all things possible and happens with or without your approval. I think the problem is that with time love has been associated with pleasure, desire ect and in many cases became these things. It's been made into physical entities that can only come to life in very specific settings, therefore very conditional. Love is a divine understanding of someone and once that is attained, it's love, it's unconditional.
Posted by Rockthenerds
@ blueNot complicated at all when you take out the socially conditioned, pop culture sense of the the last word. Romantic love isn't the end all be all of the word. You can't sum of the experience of love for everyone in terms of cheating, behavior this and he said she said that unless you're just attracted to complicated things then, fine do that but A human needs to be nurtured. Love just is, and cant be anything else. Intense feelings? No, this idea is what is fed to the masses by the media playing the same bs on the radio and on television. I know you're young, but even in my teens I knew love wasn't just some intense feelings and I got them all the time of course, but Those come and go. Love is forever. You can't give or get anything from it like you can a human. This has already been stated multiple times I really don't think beautiful should have to keep repeating himself in different way. Believe what you believe fine, but people shouldn't be trying to twist op's words to make it look like as though he doesn't know what he's talking about because he does. The title simply asks what is it. Not what it isn't or where it exists...obviously he's experienced it and some people haven't...
But you can't simply take out all of those things unless you live in a bubble or you are socially inept. "Intense feelings" is what i got from the dictionary, i admit. I did it for the sake of not twisting any word from its "formal" meaning. And the question "does is exists?" comes into the mind of many of us because there's no way i can answer "how does love (from op's perspective) works?" if it's something that doesn't exist from my perspective. However i didn't want simply spat something like "your idea of love doesn't exist, fuck off!". I explained my stance and how i experience things from my point of view. I think that's fair and it doesn't cross any lines... :/
Now to add to my point about love...
Well, my own definition of "Love" (no dictionary) is that "Love" is nothing but a label for a bunch of sensations/feelings. Society tells you "love" is this and media tells you "love" is that. But at the end of the day everyone is different and everyone "loves" differently. And "love" is not forever. Nothing is.
Posted by RockthenerdsPosted by luckystar007
To be honest, I don't think Unconditional Love is able to be found by humans......it is a best GIFT from God really 😄
For humans, we need pray to God...then with God's blessing...there is a good chance to find it. 😛
Like I said as a human, I will never find it because I will never look for it but to each their own.. and again, I just think putting merits on love comes from social conditioning "I will get__ if i do__". When you are conditioned, you are just that. To try to grasp a larger concept of the idea is difficult and uncomfortable looking from one generalized perspective. So people try to make it something tangible, something they can easily understand and digest. Like Romance, sex or gifts, family and friends etc. I don't think love is a gift, the things I think are gifts are the things that oppose it. The things that challenge it like Fear, anger, ego, denial. These are true gifts. How is denying love also a gift of love at the same time—
What makes love unconditional is the fact that we don't have to believe or disbelieving in it's existence. **THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT UNCONDITIONAL***. Comparing this to cheating husbands/wives is elementary and quite frankly very naive, but that's also what keeps us separate from it. We have a right to free will as humans to believe and do what we want. Does this mean it cant exist in humans? of course not. It means that those who are are ready will experience it, those who deny it can still experience it because it doesn't operate at the objective level. Everyone has their own individual subjective experience. So to pray for a blessing I don't believe is necessary..For what purpose? Again that's mans attempt to find God, religion does this. True Love actually finds you when you're ready.click to expand
True love or Unconditional love is a blessing gift from God only. Because there doesn't exist such Unconditional in humans nature!!!
We are all selfish. We always want to get what we want...in a relationship...otherwise, we will judge one another "you don't really love me"...then breakup...
So by humans nature, we can't find and maintain Unconditional love......until a blessing from God, then we become understand and forgive one another for what we think they did wrong to us......which is easy to say
But too hard to do without God's blessing...
Ask your self one question
would you die for them?
would you die for them?
Love is an experience resulting directly from unity and governed by the choices made that is meant to be shared and given in many forms—a dynamic core in the middle of all emotion—a reason. A reason to feel what you're feeling at that moment of joy and acceptance you shared with someone else, the wonder and pride you felt when you discovered what you are more than capable of. The reason why you would let yourself be overcome by anger when you found the one who took something dear away from you, the heavy weight of regret that filled you when accidentally shot your little brother in the cheek with a BB gun at point blank, the ardor, pleasure, and completeness you shared with the one you give you made love with, the tender care you give to the new life you've created or adopted together...
Since love is a direct result of unity that means unity is the sole condition that keeps love alive. Therefore, to love without absolutely no condition is impossible.
Since love is a direct result of unity that means unity is the sole condition that keeps love alive. Therefore, to love without absolutely no condition is impossible.
simply put: Unconditional Love is...Love without conditions.
This does not correlate with actions. There are exes that I still love...not in-love but love...genuinely. Though I don't want to be with any of them, if they were to leave this earth or be harmed in any way I would mourn.
This does not correlate with actions. There are exes that I still love...not in-love but love...genuinely. Though I don't want to be with any of them, if they were to leave this earth or be harmed in any way I would mourn.
@ rockNerd
Sure, I do have strong faith in God as a Christian. And I think "religion belief" is another great gift from God.
Whoever said it is brainwashing......is full of bullshit!!! I just talked about my opinion about the OP...I don't need you to agree with me.
And I disagree with you totally........just too much bullshit.......your words are against your own words somehow, very unclear and confusing, make no sense at all.
Sure, I do have strong faith in God as a Christian. And I think "religion belief" is another great gift from God.
Whoever said it is brainwashing......is full of bullshit!!! I just talked about my opinion about the OP...I don't need you to agree with me.
And I disagree with you totally........just too much bullshit.......your words are against your own words somehow, very unclear and confusing, make no sense at all.
Regardless any changes in churches...or in human history...because it is not religion about...
Christian religion is based on the Bible, which is God's words...that has never been changed!!!
And I don't think humans having enough wisdom to understand the Bible. You can quote something from the Bible, and use them as your purpose...but I don't think you really understand the context...and the deep meaning behind those words. I am just saying the truth rather than making you feel bad.
Everyone has the feel will to what they believe or not...... I just don't get your points which make no sense to me.
I can see you put much efforts to try to make it clear.......but still unclear to me.
Whatever, I lost my interest on this topic......wish you good luck to find what you believe.
Christian religion is based on the Bible, which is God's words...that has never been changed!!!
And I don't think humans having enough wisdom to understand the Bible. You can quote something from the Bible, and use them as your purpose...but I don't think you really understand the context...and the deep meaning behind those words. I am just saying the truth rather than making you feel bad.
Everyone has the feel will to what they believe or not...... I just don't get your points which make no sense to me.
I can see you put much efforts to try to make it clear.......but still unclear to me.
Whatever, I lost my interest on this topic......wish you good luck to find what you believe.
Posted by DG
If you confuse unconditional love with Religion then you are fucked.
Don't be Fucking Blind!!!
I just answered rockNerd kinda going on question with the topic...but rockNERD have hidden all bullshit...so nobody can really understand what's going on here.
That's all sucks!!!
@ DG
I see your point. You are just one of those who never believe there exist one almighty God---the creator of the universe. Surely, you have your free will to do whatever you want.......God gives everybody such freedom.
Honestly, I am not here to preach.......but I do feel truly SORRY for you as blinded human being!!!
I see your point. You are just one of those who never believe there exist one almighty God---the creator of the universe. Surely, you have your free will to do whatever you want.......God gives everybody such freedom.
Honestly, I am not here to preach.......but I do feel truly SORRY for you as blinded human being!!!
For both of you, don't get mad if I called your saying as "bullshit"...that just means I felt that way...but doesn't mean I think you are lying...so you don't have to take it seriously.
For the Bible, that is God's Words through human beings' hands written out...there may be slightly changed due to so many translations...but Nobody dare to change one word on purpose.
For religion, this is a serious debate that have been going on for thousands years in humans history...so I don't think we can finish it completely right now on DXP.
For unconditional love, I agree with DG...I don't have child...but I am the only child for my mom...definitely, there exists unconditional love between my mom and me😄
But I don't believe there is unconditional love between a man and a woman...No Way!
Ok, I am done. Enjoy whatever you believe... 😉
For the Bible, that is God's Words through human beings' hands written out...there may be slightly changed due to so many translations...but Nobody dare to change one word on purpose.
For religion, this is a serious debate that have been going on for thousands years in humans history...so I don't think we can finish it completely right now on DXP.
For unconditional love, I agree with DG...I don't have child...but I am the only child for my mom...definitely, there exists unconditional love between my mom and me😄
But I don't believe there is unconditional love between a man and a woman...No Way!
Ok, I am done. Enjoy whatever you believe... 😉
For both of you, don't get mad if I called your saying as "bullshit"...that just means I felt that way...but doesn't mean I think you are lying...so you don't have to take it seriously.
For the Bible, that is God's Words through human beings' hands written out...there may be slightly changed due to so many translations...but Nobody dare to change one word on purpose.
For religion, this is a serious debate that have been going on for thousands years in humans history...so I don't think we can finish it completely right now on DXP.
For unconditional love, I agree with DG...I don't have child...but I am the only child for my mom...definitely, there exists unconditional love between my mom and me😄
But I don't believe there is unconditional love between a man and a woman...No Way!
Ok, I am done. Enjoy whatever you believe... 😉
For the Bible, that is God's Words through human beings' hands written out...there may be slightly changed due to so many translations...but Nobody dare to change one word on purpose.
For religion, this is a serious debate that have been going on for thousands years in humans history...so I don't think we can finish it completely right now on DXP.
For unconditional love, I agree with DG...I don't have child...but I am the only child for my mom...definitely, there exists unconditional love between my mom and me😄
But I don't believe there is unconditional love between a man and a woman...No Way!
Ok, I am done. Enjoy whatever you believe... 😉
NO.......what I am saying is crystal clear......unconditional love just exists between parents and children.
And I think homosexual is kinda disgusting abnormal......which is definitely against God's Will.
Please stop asking me any question...I have run out of my patient on such bullshit!!!
And I think homosexual is kinda disgusting abnormal......which is definitely against God's Will.
Please stop asking me any question...I have run out of my patient on such bullshit!!!
NO.......what I am saying is crystal clear......unconditional love just exists between parents and children.
And I think homosexual is kinda disgusting abnormal......which is definitely against God's Will.
Please stop asking me any question...I have run out of my patient on such bullshit!!!
And I think homosexual is kinda disgusting abnormal......which is definitely against God's Will.
Please stop asking me any question...I have run out of my patient on such bullshit!!!
Thank U...finally...😄
You can call mine as bullshit as well...I don't even care...
But I just found you revealed yourself as lesbian on Sag board........that's the real reason you got mad at me........go ahead...
I am not going to change my points because you feel bad about what I am saying here.
I don't feel sorry for what I said......really, that is just what I think...honesty is part of Sag nature.
But I feel sorry for you that you think unconditional love exists in homosexual relationship...that is Profane the word of LOVE.
I don't care what you gonna say...you can keep going on your bullshit forever... Bye.
But I just found you revealed yourself as lesbian on Sag board........that's the real reason you got mad at me........go ahead...
I am not going to change my points because you feel bad about what I am saying here.
I don't feel sorry for what I said......really, that is just what I think...honesty is part of Sag nature.
But I feel sorry for you that you think unconditional love exists in homosexual relationship...that is Profane the word of LOVE.
I don't care what you gonna say...you can keep going on your bullshit forever... Bye.
RTN...Imma tell you like you told me concerning P Angel...you know the words lol.
I've read the last few posts and I'm going to give my take on Love, God, religion, and the bible. I eluded to it in the original post, but this is my deepest held belief and what I feel is my truth because ultimately we are individuals and act in that manner.
God is a spirit and love comes from him. It's not an ideal or concept. It is how you feel spiritually. You live it. It is the ultimate sacrifice of self(the ego/flesh) in the service or charity of another. That sacrifice can come in many forms. The parents love of a child. Doctors and their patients, blood donors. How much we love depends upon how much selfishness and fear is in us. The less of the latter, the greater your ability to love until you truly love unconditionally. Although we are imperfect, we are capable of loving unconditionally because of the ability to actually work on abolishing our negative side if we really want to. But most, unfortunately do not. That is why God loves unconditionally and we do not. Thus, it is the single biggest reason relationships fail. Because we cannot sacrifice our own "standards" when most of them are not even about loving. They are about ego, narcissism, and control and are passed from one generation to the next. I don't believe the bible is the word of God. After reading it several times, it is full of human logic and reasoning. It does contain a lot of great principles and morals, but there are too many contradictions for it to be from the Almighty himself. They are just words on a page if you don't live right spiritually. The ultimate commandment, love thy neighbor like you love yourself. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. With all the "isms" we have, how is that loving? If we did just as he said, the world would be a much better place. The crazy thing is, its easy and simple. We make it hard. That's my story and I'm sticking to it lol.
I've read the last few posts and I'm going to give my take on Love, God, religion, and the bible. I eluded to it in the original post, but this is my deepest held belief and what I feel is my truth because ultimately we are individuals and act in that manner.
God is a spirit and love comes from him. It's not an ideal or concept. It is how you feel spiritually. You live it. It is the ultimate sacrifice of self(the ego/flesh) in the service or charity of another. That sacrifice can come in many forms. The parents love of a child. Doctors and their patients, blood donors. How much we love depends upon how much selfishness and fear is in us. The less of the latter, the greater your ability to love until you truly love unconditionally. Although we are imperfect, we are capable of loving unconditionally because of the ability to actually work on abolishing our negative side if we really want to. But most, unfortunately do not. That is why God loves unconditionally and we do not. Thus, it is the single biggest reason relationships fail. Because we cannot sacrifice our own "standards" when most of them are not even about loving. They are about ego, narcissism, and control and are passed from one generation to the next. I don't believe the bible is the word of God. After reading it several times, it is full of human logic and reasoning. It does contain a lot of great principles and morals, but there are too many contradictions for it to be from the Almighty himself. They are just words on a page if you don't live right spiritually. The ultimate commandment, love thy neighbor like you love yourself. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. With all the "isms" we have, how is that loving? If we did just as he said, the world would be a much better place. The crazy thing is, its easy and simple. We make it hard. That's my story and I'm sticking to it lol.
Posted by luckystar007
...I have run out of my patient on such bullshit!!!
...You cursed in the presence of the holy father...
Alright, I think I need to teach you a lesson by smacking you a few times the bible.
I think a couple of hundred will suffice...
Posted by Rockthenerds
It's actually probably been 5 years or so but I don't understand the contradiction thing, I've just felt like I've always got it, it's never been hard or confusing for me to read... 🙂
My problem is not the bible itself but I guess its the underlying cause of it. Its the people that keep going on and on about some skewed form of love. They keep saying God is embodiment of love and loves everyone but are quick to point out many abominations both living and fantastic.
What? What?
Its hurting me more than I want it to.
Posted by Rockthenerds
What hurts you the ignorance of other people?
No one can make a choice for you.
Perhaps it isn't the ignorance that pains me. Maybe its because I realize I can't change the perspective of someone who is so sure. It is wrong to force myself onto others in such a way.
Thanks!
I am reminded of my real goal.
Posted by AmandusPosted by luckystar007
...I have run out of my patient on such bullshit!!!
...You cursed in the presence of the holy father...
Alright, I think I need to teach you a lesson by smacking you a few times the bible.
I think a couple of hundred will suffice...
click to expand
I'm sorry...but my Sag jovial nature is cause the tooooo craaaaaaack the hell up off the saying and the photo. It looks like something out of a vampire movie or something. "I shall now unleash hell upon theeeeee!!!!" Then the earth quakes and all kinds of demons n shit start flying around lol. Absolutely hilarious!
Posted by Rockthenerds
yea I'm a lesbian. I admit. you really got me there. ..
Did I misunderstand........lesbian is a woman rather than a man........right———??
Super confused.........LOL........the gender can be changed in a second...———?
Posted by AmandusPosted by luckystar007
...I have run out of my patient on such bullshit!!!
...You cursed in the presence of the holy father...
Alright, I think I need to teach you a lesson by smacking you a few times the bible.
I think a couple of hundred will suffice...
click to expand
Oooooops, don't know the Devil is your holy father......that make sense for your acting.....LOL
But I am not interest in dealing with evils......just saying.
@ DG,
As I noticed that rockNerd always tried to hide something......her posts & her gender...
I looked up my dictionary for the word "lesbian"...definitely referring to a woman...so I didn't misunderstand.
After rockNerd admitted as a lesbian, she answered your question with " NO".......can you follow what bullshit is going on here—
Plus, she had hidden many post...then misled people to the wrong way... What's her purpose to do this?
@ rockNerd
You went on my Sag board to reveal yourself as lesbian. I thought you might be proud of being that way.
But why DG asking if you are a woman, then you answer NO. You should be honest with yourself first. If you were born physically as woman, then you are a woman, even if you feel like mentally as a man. Be yourself!!!
As I noticed that rockNerd always tried to hide something......her posts & her gender...
I looked up my dictionary for the word "lesbian"...definitely referring to a woman...so I didn't misunderstand.
After rockNerd admitted as a lesbian, she answered your question with " NO".......can you follow what bullshit is going on here—
Plus, she had hidden many post...then misled people to the wrong way... What's her purpose to do this?
@ rockNerd
You went on my Sag board to reveal yourself as lesbian. I thought you might be proud of being that way.
But why DG asking if you are a woman, then you answer NO. You should be honest with yourself first. If you were born physically as woman, then you are a woman, even if you feel like mentally as a man. Be yourself!!!
Wow, I just found there is another lie that rockNERD told DG...about I went off anti gay thing.
Yes, I anti-homosexual...because it is against God's Will. But I didn't mention it until you brought it out by asking me if I think unconditional love between a man & a man, a woman & a woman.......since I don't believe it exists between a man & a woman... I just simply answered your questions...and asked you to stop question me. Then you hid your question post, and lied to DG about it...
I got you......that's why you often hid your posts.......you are afraid of people to find the truth behind your posts. How dishonest person you are!!!
However, it is Sag's duty to reveal the truth behind the darkness. I did a good job!!! LOL 😉
Yes, I anti-homosexual...because it is against God's Will. But I didn't mention it until you brought it out by asking me if I think unconditional love between a man & a man, a woman & a woman.......since I don't believe it exists between a man & a woman... I just simply answered your questions...and asked you to stop question me. Then you hid your question post, and lied to DG about it...
I got you......that's why you often hid your posts.......you are afraid of people to find the truth behind your posts. How dishonest person you are!!!
However, it is Sag's duty to reveal the truth behind the darkness. I did a good job!!! LOL 😉
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