Posted by ellesbelles
we split it.
Posted by Dreamyboy
I pay, but tomorrow I'll ask for gas money to go to work
Posted by LibraLovesHimI just feel like he will learn a lesson vs be bailing him out.
50/50 if she's in the position to. Whats mine is yours/yours mine. I aint hoarding all my cash n makin him skint. Kinda treachery is that?!
Posted by aquarius_manNot this fire sign!
if its my gf, its me who pays
always have always will
if its just a date, we split the check and i tip
water signs ive noticed expect you to pay all the time, i dated a scorpio woman she never even pretended to take out her wallet and we were just dating.one of the reasons i didnt want to see her again. also, the stingy cancer women - (ok ok i know they are generous when they care about u) - same; never even bother to pretend they want to split, they expect you to be 'the man' although its just a fucking date
on the other hand, fire signs always want to pay the check themselves
ps: once a libra woman paid for my drinks on our 1st date together coz i had forgotten my wallet at home (yes it sounds like a barefaced lie but it was the naked truth); she was pretty furious she had to pay![]()
i totally get her
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Posted by aquarius_manSEe you get it. And I am generous, just not with my money. I believe in roles.Posted by bkbella86now let me add some insult to injury - the libra was a black girl who called herself a bounty (if you know what that means) so my failure to pay for dinner was... aggravatingPosted by aquarius_manNot this fire sign!
if its my gf, its me who pays
always have always will
if its just a date, we split the check and i tip
water signs ive noticed expect you to pay all the time, i dated a scorpio woman she never even pretended to take out her wallet and we were just dating.one of the reasons i didnt want to see her again. also, the stingy cancer women - (ok ok i know they are generous when they care about u) - same; never even bother to pretend they want to split, they expect you to be 'the man' although its just a fucking date
on the other hand, fire signs always want to pay the check themselves
ps: once a libra woman paid for my drinks on our 1st date together coz i had forgotten my wallet at home (yes it sounds like a barefaced lie but it was the naked truth); she was pretty furious she had to pay![]()
i totally get her
![]()
I do have a lot of water tho,
Could be why(i was also stealing her drugs and she was a forensic science graduate therefore she could tell i was stealing but hey - those were my salad days i was young and dumb)
true, ive met aries ppl who are pretty exact about their money (but its only a handful, most aries are generous) but hey if youre a man and have the money why not pay for the fucking dinner. shell repay you tenfold when she gives you some punaniclick to expand
Posted by SourPieSame! I really dislike splitting the bill for some reason lol
If he has money he pays. Most of the guys i've dated have always been such gentlemen.
If he doesn't have money then I pay. I don't mind beign the bread owner, lol. I've never split though. If you don't have enough money to pay for the both of us then I'll just pay it all. That's the type of woman I am.
Posted by VenusianCartelLOL. We’ll assume after since the post says bf.
Is this before or after sex?
Posted by Astrology101
I'm not going out with the guy.
For appearances sake or whatever.. I like when a guy pays. I can buy him a gift or something he needs. But when we go out he should pay. Atleast in the beginning.
Posted by bkbella86Okay, if he's MY man, I will help pay the difference (check). IF he asked me out on our first "official date" a man should pay; if I find that he has $ 50.00 and the bill is to be paid, I will pay the difference; kiss him on the cheek, thank him for dinner (after hearing how he didn't have time to go to the bank, left his debit card at home, yadda, yadda, yadda, etc), and then delete his contact on my phone.![]()
Posted by VenusianCartelLmaoooPosted by bkbella86Take all my $ 50 then I can barely walk!!Posted by VenusianCartelLOL. We’ll assume after since the post says bf.
Is this before or after sex?
What about the tip doe?
@rockyroadicecream is sub $ 2 even an appropriate tip on $ 48 worth of food?click to expand
Posted by TeenaRight? It feel like it draws a line between me and my partner. I like to share everything with my boo, even my money (not my savings of course unless you're my husband) but my daily allowance is for the both of us, not just for me.Posted by SourPieSame! I really dislike splitting the bill for some reason lol
If he has money he pays. Most of the guys i've dated have always been such gentlemen.
If he doesn't have money then I pay. I don't mind beign the bread owner, lol. I've never split though. If you don't have enough money to pay for the both of us then I'll just pay it all. That's the type of woman I am.click to expand
Posted by Gob_Shite
Thank God I don't live in the US...
Posted by Astrology101If I had to pay I would be so turned off. I can’t date a man with no money. Matter of fact why would a man with no money be dating??Posted by bkbella86I'm not joking I used to pay when I used to be with my ex. He didn't use to have money.. so i would pay.Posted by Astrology101
I'm not going out with the guy.
For appearances sake or whatever.. I like when a guy pays. I can buy him a gift or something he needs. But when we go out he should pay. Atleast in the beginning.
Agreed!
Then one day he comes to me with a roll of cash and tells me to keep it.
Not doing that again.click to expand
Posted by SourPieYou sound too nice.Posted by TeenaRight? It feel like it draws a line between me and my partner. I like to share everything with my boo, even my money (not my savings of course unless you're my husband) but my daily allowance is for the both of us, not just for me.Posted by SourPieSame! I really dislike splitting the bill for some reason lol
If he has money he pays. Most of the guys i've dated have always been such gentlemen.
If he doesn't have money then I pay. I don't mind beign the bread owner, lol. I've never split though. If you don't have enough money to pay for the both of us then I'll just pay it all. That's the type of woman I am.click to expand
Posted by aquarius_manNo p***y is worth being brokePosted by bkbella86now let me add some insult to injury - the libra was a black girl who called herself a bounty (if you know what that means) so my failure to pay for dinner was... aggravatingPosted by aquarius_manNot this fire sign!
if its my gf, its me who pays
always have always will
if its just a date, we split the check and i tip
water signs ive noticed expect you to pay all the time, i dated a scorpio woman she never even pretended to take out her wallet and we were just dating.one of the reasons i didnt want to see her again. also, the stingy cancer women - (ok ok i know they are generous when they care about u) - same; never even bother to pretend they want to split, they expect you to be 'the man' although its just a fucking date
on the other hand, fire signs always want to pay the check themselves
ps: once a libra woman paid for my drinks on our 1st date together coz i had forgotten my wallet at home (yes it sounds like a barefaced lie but it was the naked truth); she was pretty furious she had to pay![]()
i totally get her
![]()
I do have a lot of water tho,
Could be why(i was also stealing her drugs and she was a forensic science graduate therefore she could tell i was stealing but hey - those were my salad days i was young and dumb)
true, ive met aries ppl who are pretty exact about their money (but its only a handful, most aries are generous) but hey if youre a man and have the money why not pay for the fucking dinner. shell repay you tenfold when she gives you some punaniclick to expand
Posted by bkbella86I would pay!![]()
Posted by yung_wisegemHow would you go broke paying for a dinner? That poses another issue if that the case.Posted by aquarius_manNo p***y is worth being brokePosted by bkbella86now let me add some insult to injury - the libra was a black girl who called herself a bounty (if you know what that means) so my failure to pay for dinner was... aggravatingPosted by aquarius_manNot this fire sign!
if its my gf, its me who pays
always have always will
if its just a date, we split the check and i tip
water signs ive noticed expect you to pay all the time, i dated a scorpio woman she never even pretended to take out her wallet and we were just dating.one of the reasons i didnt want to see her again. also, the stingy cancer women - (ok ok i know they are generous when they care about u) - same; never even bother to pretend they want to split, they expect you to be 'the man' although its just a fucking date
on the other hand, fire signs always want to pay the check themselves
ps: once a libra woman paid for my drinks on our 1st date together coz i had forgotten my wallet at home (yes it sounds like a barefaced lie but it was the naked truth); she was pretty furious she had to pay![]()
i totally get her
![]()
I do have a lot of water tho,
Could be why(i was also stealing her drugs and she was a forensic science graduate therefore she could tell i was stealing but hey - those were my salad days i was young and dumb)
true, ive met aries ppl who are pretty exact about their money (but its only a handful, most aries are generous) but hey if youre a man and have the money why not pay for the fucking dinner. shell repay you tenfold when she gives you some punaniclick to expand
Posted by poison_ivyI think the opposite actually. I see so many women over compensating to keep a man and it’s sad.Posted by bkbella86I would pay!![]()
Simply because I have more funds... At the end of the day, if we together, we both should be straight... I pick up where he lacks and vice versa.. SO many women out here expect a man to go above and beyond their needs.. Women expect way to much of men but not enough of themselves.. ANYWAY.. that's a whole other subject..
But if I have more than my man, why wouldn't I pay.. Easy.click to expand
Posted by bkbella86Wym how would u go broke??? All his money would be gone after paying for a 50 dollar meal... personally i wouldnt even go on a date with just 50 dollars anyways lolPosted by yung_wisegemHow would you go broke paying for a dinner? That poses another issue if that the case.Posted by aquarius_manNo p***y is worth being brokePosted by bkbella86now let me add some insult to injury - the libra was a black girl who called herself a bounty (if you know what that means) so my failure to pay for dinner was... aggravatingPosted by aquarius_manNot this fire sign!
if its my gf, its me who pays
always have always will
if its just a date, we split the check and i tip
water signs ive noticed expect you to pay all the time, i dated a scorpio woman she never even pretended to take out her wallet and we were just dating.one of the reasons i didnt want to see her again. also, the stingy cancer women - (ok ok i know they are generous when they care about u) - same; never even bother to pretend they want to split, they expect you to be 'the man' although its just a fucking date
on the other hand, fire signs always want to pay the check themselves
ps: once a libra woman paid for my drinks on our 1st date together coz i had forgotten my wallet at home (yes it sounds like a barefaced lie but it was the naked truth); she was pretty furious she had to pay![]()
i totally get her
![]()
I do have a lot of water tho,
Could be why(i was also stealing her drugs and she was a forensic science graduate therefore she could tell i was stealing but hey - those were my salad days i was young and dumb)
true, ive met aries ppl who are pretty exact about their money (but its only a handful, most aries are generous) but hey if youre a man and have the money why not pay for the fucking dinner. shell repay you tenfold when she gives you some punaniclick to expand
Posted by SourPiePosted by TeenaRight? It feel like it draws a line between me and my partner. I like to share everything with my boo, even my money (not my savings of course unless you're my husband) but my daily allowance is for the both of us, not just for me.Posted by SourPieSame! I really dislike splitting the bill for some reason lol
If he has money he pays. Most of the guys i've dated have always been such gentlemen.
If he doesn't have money then I pay. I don't mind beign the bread owner, lol. I've never split though. If you don't have enough money to pay for the both of us then I'll just pay it all. That's the type of woman I am.click to expand
Posted by bkbella86I'm nice, but don't get fooled. It's not like I let gold diggers empty my bank account. It will take a while for me to be that open.Posted by SourPieYou sound too nice.Posted by TeenaRight? It feel like it draws a line between me and my partner. I like to share everything with my boo, even my money (not my savings of course unless you're my husband) but my daily allowance is for the both of us, not just for me.Posted by SourPieSame! I really dislike splitting the bill for some reason lol
If he has money he pays. Most of the guys i've dated have always been such gentlemen.
If he doesn't have money then I pay. I don't mind beign the bread owner, lol. I've never split though. If you don't have enough money to pay for the both of us then I'll just pay it all. That's the type of woman I am.click to expand
Posted by SugarandSpunk50k is nowhere near balling and in nyc it’s pennies. Granted life happens and comes at you fast but the one should always strive for more. I can’t date a broke man tho. And I really wonder why they date period.
A relationship is usually 50/50. However, depending on the type of relationship and circumstance things can change. I've been in a relationship where bill is split. Or I've been in a relationship where I take care of bill and the next date, the bf will. Then I've been in relationships where even though I may make more money than the guy does salary wise but due to his pride and old school gentleman ways, dude will want to always pay because in his mind; "that's how it should always be". My father is the same way; old school mentality where the man should always pay ? I used to argue with that specific ex who was old school because sometimes I wanted to pay for our meals or the movies or etc.
Anyways, in this case if guy only has $ 50 and he's not getting paid till Friday or the following week, put your pride aside and pay for the man if you really like him. Not everyone is going to make 50k+ a year or ballin all the time, some people have debt to pay off, unexpected things in life that hit them left field, etc. If your pride is too much to allow yourself to pay for your mans meal at least once or twice in your life then I hope you never lose your job or end up in a situation where you're broke like a joke for reasons you couldn't control but still wish you could do something nice for your significant other. Just my 2 cents. No disrespect to anyone of course.
Posted by bkbella86I believe in men being head of household, being able to be the man and take the lead.. Alpha men are what I love and mostly what I attract.. I've always been able to rely on my man...Posted by poison_ivyI think the opposite actually. I see so many women over compensating to keep a man and it’s sad.Posted by bkbella86I would pay!![]()
Simply because I have more funds... At the end of the day, if we together, we both should be straight... I pick up where he lacks and vice versa.. SO many women out here expect a man to go above and beyond their needs.. Women expect way to much of men but not enough of themselves.. ANYWAY.. that's a whole other subject..
But if I have more than my man, why wouldn't I pay.. Easy.
The picks mes and 50/50 women have the game all fucked up.click to expand
Posted by nikkistarbut a bf in the eyes of the law is diff than a husband. So how can the what’s mine is his rule apply? Is this something discussed at the on set of the relationship? Or is it assumed?
My initial thought is, why the fuck you going out on a date if you only got $ 50.00 to cover expenses?
Economically speaking, you shouldn't be going out taking anyone out, if you only have $ 50.00 to your name.
My second thought is, is I don't expect anyone to HAVE to pay for me. I can pay my own way. That doesn't take away from me wanting a traditional role. That doesn't mean my dude doesn't pay for me more often than not. What that means is, I will do for him, as he does for me. So I will go sneak and pay the bill for us sometimes, because I want him to know I appreciate him as well. He gets annoyed I do it, but he gets the benefit of feeling what I feel when he does it for me as well.
And if this is someone I am serious with, what is mine is his, and what is his is mine. So this isn't isn't him having $ 50, and me having $ 200, this is us having $ 250.
XOXO,
The Woman Hater
Posted by bkbella86It was an example, wasn't specifying nyc lol. Trust me, I know 50k isn't "ballin" in nyc. 50k is considered mediocre, like what a college graduate should be making starting off. However, 50k in other states is considered living large.Posted by SugarandSpunk50k is nowhere near balling and in nyc it’s pennies. Granted life happens and comes at you fast but the one should always strive for more. I can’t date a broke man tho. And I really wonder why they date period.
A relationship is usually 50/50. However, depending on the type of relationship and circumstance things can change. I've been in a relationship where bill is split. Or I've been in a relationship where I take care of bill and the next date, the bf will. Then I've been in relationships where even though I may make more money than the guy does salary wise but due to his pride and old school gentleman ways, dude will want to always pay because in his mind; "that's how it should always be". My father is the same way; old school mentality where the man should always pay ? I used to argue with that specific ex who was old school because sometimes I wanted to pay for our meals or the movies or etc.
Anyways, in this case if guy only has $ 50 and he's not getting paid till Friday or the following week, put your pride aside and pay for the man if you really like him. Not everyone is going to make 50k+ a year or ballin all the time, some people have debt to pay off, unexpected things in life that hit them left field, etc. If your pride is too much to allow yourself to pay for your mans meal at least once or twice in your life then I hope you never lose your job or end up in a situation where you're broke like a joke for reasons you couldn't control but still wish you could do something nice for your significant other. Just my 2 cents. No disrespect to anyone of course.click to expand
Posted by poison_ivyI agree with your entire statement.Posted by bkbella86I believe in men being head of household, being able to be the man and take the lead.. Alpha men are what I love and mostly what I attract.. I've always been able to rely on my man...Posted by poison_ivyI think the opposite actually. I see so many women over compensating to keep a man and it’s sad.Posted by bkbella86I would pay!![]()
Simply because I have more funds... At the end of the day, if we together, we both should be straight... I pick up where he lacks and vice versa.. SO many women out here expect a man to go above and beyond their needs.. Women expect way to much of men but not enough of themselves.. ANYWAY.. that's a whole other subject..
But if I have more than my man, why wouldn't I pay.. Easy.
The picks mes and 50/50 women have the game all fucked up.
If we're talking about a rare case and not an all the time thing, I have no problem dishing out money... Now if he just always broke, there lies an issue and I won't settle for a man that I have to take care of.. NOPE! If my man is always looking out for me, takes care of me etc... Why wouldn't I pay.. I still would end up with more cash than him.. *shrug**
I think the women that say gimme gimme gimme and want a man to do it all are selfish.. just my opinion.. Roles are roles.. My man can be dominant, I can be submissive.. no problem.. But I wouldn't let my man be broke off no damn dinner.. TF?click to expand
Posted by bkbella86I def agree with some of your points too, cause I'd be damn if I take care of a man! LMAO! I already got a child and I'm a single mother.. I'm by no means taking care of a grown ass man.. hahah!Posted by poison_ivyI agree with your entire statement.Posted by bkbella86I believe in men being head of household, being able to be the man and take the lead.. Alpha men are what I love and mostly what I attract.. I've always been able to rely on my man...Posted by poison_ivyI think the opposite actually. I see so many women over compensating to keep a man and it’s sad.Posted by bkbella86I would pay!![]()
Simply because I have more funds... At the end of the day, if we together, we both should be straight... I pick up where he lacks and vice versa.. SO many women out here expect a man to go above and beyond their needs.. Women expect way to much of men but not enough of themselves.. ANYWAY.. that's a whole other subject..
But if I have more than my man, why wouldn't I pay.. Easy.
The picks mes and 50/50 women have the game all fucked up.
If we're talking about a rare case and not an all the time thing, I have no problem dishing out money... Now if he just always broke, there lies an issue and I won't settle for a man that I have to take care of.. NOPE! If my man is always looking out for me, takes care of me etc... Why wouldn't I pay.. I still would end up with more cash than him.. *shrug**
I think the women that say gimme gimme gimme and want a man to do it all are selfish.. just my opinion.. Roles are roles.. My man can be dominant, I can be submissive.. no problem.. But I wouldn't let my man be broke off no damn dinner.. TF?click to expand
Posted by nikkistaryou woman hater you. lol take me on a date?
My initial thought is, why the fuck you going out on a date if you only got $ 50.00 to cover expenses?
Economically speaking, you shouldn't be going out taking anyone out, if you only have $ 50.00 to your name.
My second thought is, is I don't expect anyone to HAVE to pay for me. I can pay my own way. That doesn't take away from me wanting a traditional role. That doesn't mean my dude doesn't pay for me more often than not. What that means is, I will do for him, as he does for me. So I will go sneak and pay the bill for us sometimes, because I want him to know I appreciate him as well. He gets annoyed I do it, but he gets the benefit of feeling what I feel when he does it for me as well.
And if this is someone I am serious with, what is mine is his, and what is his is mine. So this isn't isn't him having $ 50, and me having $ 200, this is us having $ 250.
XOXO,
The Woman Hater
Posted by bkbella86A piece of paper is the difference between a bf and a husband. I don't need a ring and a piece of paper to determine if we are serious or not, to denote this.Posted by nikkistarbut a bf in the eyes of the law is diff than a husband. So how can the what’s mine is his rule apply? Is this something discussed at the on set of the relationship? Or is it assumed?
My initial thought is, why the fuck you going out on a date if you only got $ 50.00 to cover expenses?
Economically speaking, you shouldn't be going out taking anyone out, if you only have $ 50.00 to your name.
My second thought is, is I don't expect anyone to HAVE to pay for me. I can pay my own way. That doesn't take away from me wanting a traditional role. That doesn't mean my dude doesn't pay for me more often than not. What that means is, I will do for him, as he does for me. So I will go sneak and pay the bill for us sometimes, because I want him to know I appreciate him as well. He gets annoyed I do it, but he gets the benefit of feeling what I feel when he does it for me as well.
And if this is someone I am serious with, what is mine is his, and what is his is mine. So this isn't isn't him having $ 50, and me having $ 200, this is us having $ 250.
XOXO,
The Woman Haterclick to expand
Posted by poison_ivyLMAOooPosted by bkbella86I def agree with some of your points too, cause I'd be damn if I take care of a man! LMAO! I already got a child and I'm a single mother.. I'm by no means taking care of a grown ass man.. hahah!Posted by poison_ivyI agree with your entire statement.Posted by bkbella86I believe in men being head of household, being able to be the man and take the lead.. Alpha men are what I love and mostly what I attract.. I've always been able to rely on my man...Posted by poison_ivyI think the opposite actually. I see so many women over compensating to keep a man and it’s sad.Posted by bkbella86I would pay!![]()
Simply because I have more funds... At the end of the day, if we together, we both should be straight... I pick up where he lacks and vice versa.. SO many women out here expect a man to go above and beyond their needs.. Women expect way to much of men but not enough of themselves.. ANYWAY.. that's a whole other subject..
But if I have more than my man, why wouldn't I pay.. Easy.
The picks mes and 50/50 women have the game all fucked up.
If we're talking about a rare case and not an all the time thing, I have no problem dishing out money... Now if he just always broke, there lies an issue and I won't settle for a man that I have to take care of.. NOPE! If my man is always looking out for me, takes care of me etc... Why wouldn't I pay.. I still would end up with more cash than him.. *shrug**
I think the women that say gimme gimme gimme and want a man to do it all are selfish.. just my opinion.. Roles are roles.. My man can be dominant, I can be submissive.. no problem.. But I wouldn't let my man be broke off no damn dinner.. TF?
click to expand
Posted by nikkistarI despise nothing more than women who put their "men" through those situations. So..Posted by bkbella86A piece of paper is the difference between a bf and a husband. I don't need a ring and a piece of paper to determine if we are serious or not, to denote this.Posted by nikkistarbut a bf in the eyes of the law is diff than a husband. So how can the what’s mine is his rule apply? Is this something discussed at the on set of the relationship? Or is it assumed?
My initial thought is, why the fuck you going out on a date if you only got $ 50.00 to cover expenses?
Economically speaking, you shouldn't be going out taking anyone out, if you only have $ 50.00 to your name.
My second thought is, is I don't expect anyone to HAVE to pay for me. I can pay my own way. That doesn't take away from me wanting a traditional role. That doesn't mean my dude doesn't pay for me more often than not. What that means is, I will do for him, as he does for me. So I will go sneak and pay the bill for us sometimes, because I want him to know I appreciate him as well. He gets annoyed I do it, but he gets the benefit of feeling what I feel when he does it for me as well.
And if this is someone I am serious with, what is mine is his, and what is his is mine. So this isn't isn't him having $ 50, and me having $ 200, this is us having $ 250.
XOXO,
The Woman Hater
Most people, when relationships begin, usually tell the other person what their beliefs are. My Cancer and I have already discussed this topic within the first 6 months of dating. We know exactly where we both stand when it comes to finances. The "what's mine" rule would apply, when two people are economically entwined somehow.
I have personally seen a woman, that was so stout in her beliefs that a man should always provide for her, that he suffered so badly, while she watched it happen. The husband, got hurt in the military, and was discharged, while the wife remained in active duty. He lost his career path, and income. She still forced him to pay all the bills on his disability check, because "that was his role". She never gave a sent to him for bills, and would get pissed if she needed to buy food for the house. She was later deployed, and kept the separation pay that the military gives in addition to income, to help offset costs, because it was "her money" and she expecting him to continue paying all the bill solely, leaving him with 40 bucks a month for food. If he couldn't afford a vacation, oh well, she was still going. Too bad for him. I personally don't understand how any woman, could sit there and watch the person she married and said she loved, suffer like that and not want to help.click to expand
Posted by ShadowcatBecause he fronted instead of being honest.Posted by bkbella86Why?
I forgot to answer. But he pays.click to expand
Posted by TeenaYou get me Teenaaa!!Posted by SourPiePosted by TeenaRight? It feel like it draws a line between me and my partner. I like to share everything with my boo, even my money (not my savings of course unless you're my husband) but my daily allowance is for the both of us, not just for me.Posted by SourPieSame! I really dislike splitting the bill for some reason lol
If he has money he pays. Most of the guys i've dated have always been such gentlemen.
If he doesn't have money then I pay. I don't mind beign the bread owner, lol. I've never split though. If you don't have enough money to pay for the both of us then I'll just pay it all. That's the type of woman I am.
That's true.
Actually I'm not used to splitting bills even with friends. One of us pays n the next time someone else pays. We don't even remember who paid when. Whoever is carrying enough cash/card will pay.I feel splitting bill is super awkward ?? Also if the friends are guys n we are close, they usually just pay...no questions asked(unless we know they don't have enough cash).click to expand
Posted by FortunaWow
I'd get it this time and he would next time. If he wants to tip and I get the bill that would be ok too. Another scenario I am a fan of is splitting based on salary or assigning certain bills based on our pay. It'd be equal for the most part based on our salaries.
Posted by Gob_ShiteTwo faced hoes and double standards? Care to elaborate?
Who Pays?
The thread where two-faced hoes, in possession of dubious double-standards, congregate...
Posted by CrimsonGirlThat’s sad. What would your father have to say about that?
Either or. I really don't care. I could pay for him on every date and wouldn't care
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