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.... Jesus died on the cross to atone for your sins ...
.. then why do you still beg for mercy for your soul and ask to be forgiven?
Do you doubt the trueness of the crucifixion? Deep down inside, do you really fear that it isn't true that you are saved via Jesus dying for it?
You doubt ... if you continue to pray to be saved .. then you believe you aren't.
Second ..... I think people have something screwed up here. They honor and do everything possible to save the body, to make the body of special importance ..
... he did that, and then came back in spirit to show you the body isn't of importance, the spirit is.
So, my overall question is: Why do you say you have faith when you really doubt?
.. then why do you still beg for mercy for your soul and ask to be forgiven?
Do you doubt the trueness of the crucifixion? Deep down inside, do you really fear that it isn't true that you are saved via Jesus dying for it?
You doubt ... if you continue to pray to be saved .. then you believe you aren't.
Second ..... I think people have something screwed up here. They honor and do everything possible to save the body, to make the body of special importance ..
... he did that, and then came back in spirit to show you the body isn't of importance, the spirit is.
So, my overall question is: Why do you say you have faith when you really doubt?
Why are you so threatened by Christianity?
That's not a hypothetical question either,I really think you should dig down deep and give us both an answer.
I'll give you mine.
You're afraid and confused.
That's not a hypothetical question either,I really think you should dig down deep and give us both an answer.
I'll give you mine.
You're afraid and confused.
Also,since I'm asking questions I know you won't answer...who was the domineering Christian when you were a child?
Did he die in vain, then?
Seems that nobody wants to respond to this .. is it because there is no answer for it?
Jesus suffered in death, excruiating pain .. FOR YOU .. so you would be saved from sin ... and then you pray to god, and ask for forgiveness, ask to be saved .. while praising Jesus for doing this for you.
That's like talking out of both sides of your mouth ... did he, or did he not die for you?
Then why are you doubting that? Don't you realize that to doubt, is to NOT have faith?
Seems that nobody wants to respond to this .. is it because there is no answer for it?
Jesus suffered in death, excruiating pain .. FOR YOU .. so you would be saved from sin ... and then you pray to god, and ask for forgiveness, ask to be saved .. while praising Jesus for doing this for you.
That's like talking out of both sides of your mouth ... did he, or did he not die for you?
Then why are you doubting that? Don't you realize that to doubt, is to NOT have faith?
Bella put the RAT in a trap , The Rat saw the cheese but was to afrade to go for it.
Posted by P-Angel
.... Jesus died on the cross to atone for your sins ...
.. then why do you still beg for mercy for your soul and ask to be forgiven?
Do you doubt the trueness of the crucifixion? Deep down inside, do you really fear that it isn't true that you are saved via Jesus dying for it?
You doubt ... if you continue to pray to be saved .. then you believe you aren't.
Second ..... I think people have something screwed up here. They honor and do everything possible to save the body, to make the body of special importance ..
... he did that, and then came back in spirit to show you the body isn't of importance, the spirit is.
So, my overall question is: Why do you say you have faith when you really doubt?
It doesn't make any sense.
I have found nearly no one christian that truly follows their religion like they are supposed to.
Jesus said something like "I will spit you out if you are lukewarm"
Well, everyone is lukewarm so everyone is going to "hell"
There aren't even any true pastors or ministers that follow their cause.
Even the ones that aren't money obsessed still fail at doing what the bible says.
Statistically speaking Athiests know the most about religion as compared to all religions..
This test has only been conducted in America though.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/28/us/28religion.html
On the left hand side you will see the results of this test.
This test has only been conducted in America though.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/28/us/28religion.html
On the left hand side you will see the results of this test.
IDK why but I took a silly test and will post it here now.
http://www.selectsmart.com/PRO/beliefnet/new.html?q1=5&im_fact1=3&q2=4&im_fact2=3&q3=4&im_fact3=3&q4=6&im_fact4=3&q5=5&im_fact5=3&q6=3&im_fact6=3&q7_a2=2&q7_a3=3&q7_a4=4&q7_a5=5&im_fact7=3&q8=1&im_fact8=3&q9=3&im_fact9=3&q10=3&im_fact10=2&q11=1&im_fact11=3&q12_a3=3&q12_a5=5&q12_a6=6&q12_a8=8&im_fact12=3&q13=2&im_fact13=3&q14=3&im_fact14=3&q15=2&im_fact15=3&q16=2&im_fact16=3&q17=1&im_fact17=3&q18=1&im_fact18=3&q19=2&im_fact19=3&q20=1&im_fact20=3&doit=1
1. Mahayana Buddhism (100% )
2. Hinduism (95% )
3. Unitarian Universalism (94% )
4. Liberal Quakers (89% )
5. Neo-Pagan (88% )
6. Sikhism (84% )
7. Jainism (81% )
8. Theravada Buddhism (79% )
9. New Age (77% )
10. Baha'i Faith (74% )
11. Taoism (67% )
12. Reform Judaism (61% )
13. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (58% )
14. Orthodox Quaker (58% )
15. New Thought (54% )
16. Orthodox Judaism (53% )
17. Scientology (51% )
18. Secular Humanism (47% )
19. Islam (46% )
20. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (42% )
21. Seventh Day Adventist (35% )
22. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (33% )
23. Nontheist (31% )
24. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (27% )
25. Eastern Orthodox (25% )
26. Roman Catholic (25% )
27. Jehovah's Witness (22% )
This test isn't entirely accurate.
I most associate myself to Naturalistic Pantheism but Mahayana would be next and I think Hinduism is kinda silly..
http://www.selectsmart.com/PRO/beliefnet/new.html?q1=5&im_fact1=3&q2=4&im_fact2=3&q3=4&im_fact3=3&q4=6&im_fact4=3&q5=5&im_fact5=3&q6=3&im_fact6=3&q7_a2=2&q7_a3=3&q7_a4=4&q7_a5=5&im_fact7=3&q8=1&im_fact8=3&q9=3&im_fact9=3&q10=3&im_fact10=2&q11=1&im_fact11=3&q12_a3=3&q12_a5=5&q12_a6=6&q12_a8=8&im_fact12=3&q13=2&im_fact13=3&q14=3&im_fact14=3&q15=2&im_fact15=3&q16=2&im_fact16=3&q17=1&im_fact17=3&q18=1&im_fact18=3&q19=2&im_fact19=3&q20=1&im_fact20=3&doit=1
1. Mahayana Buddhism (100% )
2. Hinduism (95% )
3. Unitarian Universalism (94% )
4. Liberal Quakers (89% )
5. Neo-Pagan (88% )
6. Sikhism (84% )
7. Jainism (81% )
8. Theravada Buddhism (79% )
9. New Age (77% )
10. Baha'i Faith (74% )
11. Taoism (67% )
12. Reform Judaism (61% )
13. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (58% )
14. Orthodox Quaker (58% )
15. New Thought (54% )
16. Orthodox Judaism (53% )
17. Scientology (51% )
18. Secular Humanism (47% )
19. Islam (46% )
20. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (42% )
21. Seventh Day Adventist (35% )
22. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (33% )
23. Nontheist (31% )
24. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (27% )
25. Eastern Orthodox (25% )
26. Roman Catholic (25% )
27. Jehovah's Witness (22% )
This test isn't entirely accurate.
I most associate myself to Naturalistic Pantheism but Mahayana would be next and I think Hinduism is kinda silly..
your missing SHABOOM
Posted by BellatheBull
Also,since I'm asking questions I know you won't answer...who was the domineering Christian when you were a child?
*nods*
A god fearing woman who wants to slay all us pagans
OH GREAT SHABOOM STRIKE THE BITCH!
OH GREAT SHABOOM STRIKE THE BITCH!
Posted by james tate
OH GREAT SHABOOM STRIKE THE BITCH!
lmao. That made me laugh so hard
don't pee yopur self. Its your B day.
I think the problem is with our awareness of how the sacrifice was made by God for us out of love.It is in realising that God has one time at one event wiped out our sin-account and deemed us worthy of forgiveness,through His grace.In accepting and understanding this we are free from the effect of sin..if we realise it,if we choose it.So to participate fully in this blessing,we too have the power to forgive and not bear grudges and seek revenge,so we are free from our own sin and the sins of others against us.So istead of praying for forgiveness,we should thank God for forgiveness that we are omnipresently welcome to.Hence God does not send people to hell,they do that by themselves.Thats my understanding of it,right there.
Posted by james tate
Bella put the RAT in a trap , The Rat saw the cheese but was to afrade to go for it.
She's had me on ignore for quite awhile,since she only likes to talk to people she perceives as weaker than she is.
typical school yard bully,once confronted she hides.
Dear little wounded bird
I was a Christian the great majority of my life and I was more spiritual than anyone I have known.
I can tell you things about Christianity and spirituality that you won't see for a million years.
I reached a state of bliss, time was nearly frozen, I was able to think hundreds of things all at once without thinking at all.
I no longer thought, I only knew...Every neuron in my brain rung with the frequency of Jesus/Love/Peace/God.
It was the best time of my entire life.
People said I was literally glowing and sometimes I felt a surge of tickling energy throughout my entire being as I spoke things that I never knew existed.
Sometimes people would pull out a bible and turn to the scriptures and things I spoke of.
I acted immediately to all unexpected situations because I already knew what i was supposed to do.
I gave my most cherished items and then some to those who asked for them.
Not only was my mind pure but my heart, soul and spirit were also totally purified.
I was able to detect peoples pain without any mention of it from them.
I actually healed 3 people of small things like joint pain.
Eternity was in a millisecond, time didn't exist.
Only love existed.
Pure and innocent love, not the kind you have for your child or parents.
Instead it was much more universal.
I was the mother of love. I cherished and cared for love.
Every action I did was done in the name of the holy spirit. No negativity entered, at all.
I no longer expected any results from anything.
I was in bliss and I didn't care if washing the dishes resulted in clean dishes. I just cared that the good was done.
If the dishes became dirty a million times right after I washed them I would still wash them because it would be right and I would never become agitated in the least.
I saw the future often and exactly as it happened.
I still do, it just isn't as often an occurance.
So, Mr.I know I am right, are you right???
Do you or have you ever known Jesus the Christ???
I was a Christian the great majority of my life and I was more spiritual than anyone I have known.
I can tell you things about Christianity and spirituality that you won't see for a million years.
I reached a state of bliss, time was nearly frozen, I was able to think hundreds of things all at once without thinking at all.
I no longer thought, I only knew...Every neuron in my brain rung with the frequency of Jesus/Love/Peace/God.
It was the best time of my entire life.
People said I was literally glowing and sometimes I felt a surge of tickling energy throughout my entire being as I spoke things that I never knew existed.
Sometimes people would pull out a bible and turn to the scriptures and things I spoke of.
I acted immediately to all unexpected situations because I already knew what i was supposed to do.
I gave my most cherished items and then some to those who asked for them.
Not only was my mind pure but my heart, soul and spirit were also totally purified.
I was able to detect peoples pain without any mention of it from them.
I actually healed 3 people of small things like joint pain.
Eternity was in a millisecond, time didn't exist.
Only love existed.
Pure and innocent love, not the kind you have for your child or parents.
Instead it was much more universal.
I was the mother of love. I cherished and cared for love.
Every action I did was done in the name of the holy spirit. No negativity entered, at all.
I no longer expected any results from anything.
I was in bliss and I didn't care if washing the dishes resulted in clean dishes. I just cared that the good was done.
If the dishes became dirty a million times right after I washed them I would still wash them because it would be right and I would never become agitated in the least.
I saw the future often and exactly as it happened.
I still do, it just isn't as often an occurance.
So, Mr.I know I am right, are you right???
Do you or have you ever known Jesus the Christ???
Posted by JayDee33
I think the problem is with our awareness of how the sacrifice was made by God for us out of love.It is in realising that God has one time at one event wiped out our sin-account and deemed us worthy of forgiveness,through His grace.In accepting and understanding this we are free from the effect of sin..if we realise it,if we choose it.So to participate fully in this blessing,we too have the power to forgive and not bear grudges and seek revenge,so we are free from our own sin and the sins of others against us.So istead of praying for forgiveness,we should thank God for forgiveness that we are omnipresently welcome to.Hence God does not send people to hell,they do that by themselves.Thats my understanding of it,right there.
I would glady die on a cross and be tortured 1000x for any 1 person that I hate.
I would gladly die to stop a child from being raped and having their limbs cut off.
This is earth. This is shit.
If I were to save an entire species (Humans) from eternal hell I would gladly be tortured for 10000000000 years.
Jesus ain't shit.
He didn't save anything.
We are all still in hell, killing, stealing from and raping each other just like always.
Jesus was a very wise and good man, a Pisces/Martyr.
He did what he thought would help people because he couldn't stop hurting until everyone else stopped hurting.
It hurts so much that being tortured and killed is nothing.
Me and the boy have much more in common than I could have imagined.
It's very strange.
This is earth.This is butter?
WTF?
I tried fixing it and it said this is earth.this is shit.
Does it make cuss words be something funny??????????
WTF?
I tried fixing it and it said this is earth.this is shit.
Does it make cuss words be something funny??????????
Oh, okay, it does.
I find it amazing all the evil that comes from religon.
their are many who find the wonder of Tate amazing.
Posted by james tate
I find it amazing all the evil that comes from religon.
I agree with you.
but if a person has an understanding,they understand religion and faith are two entirely different animals.
I'm not religious in any respect,but I have faith in my creator.
faith is inward,wheras religion is outward.
Faith is between one person and his/her God,religion is between men.it's a man made vehicle of control and power.
Faith never hurt anyone,but religion has killed many,many.
ps
I ♥ your liver.
Posted by woundedbird
Back up ur claim?. When has "religion" killed. They say weapons kill. Again, ur argument is typical cop out.
I'm not sure if you're speaking to me or not,but....
Are you denying the fact millions of people have been killed in the name of religion?
do you know anything about northern Ireland,or Israel and Palestine?or the inquisitions(they lasted a loooong time)?
how about Jim Jones? or David Koresh?
ftr,I am a Christian,but not a follower of religion.you are defending religion...and seem to be getting agitated.see how that works?
carful Bella my lov she may kill you for that.
It has everything to do with religion I know I ask SHABOOM!
Posted by woundedbird
Millions have died from cancer and liver failure etc etc. not at all am i agitated by ur thoughts. They are the same old comments used over and over again.
I don't understand your logic.
In N. Ireland they are not killing one another over cancer and bad livers....they're doing it over their religious politics....
People are not killing people over God.people kill people over political religion dressed as God.
Don't get me started on cancer and bad livers,cuz I can really take you in some unconventional directions with that....
Hi Bling 
*waves*
*waves*lol,if you don't have anything to bring to the table,just be honest and say so.
I'm not one for arguing for the sake of arguing.
I'm not one for arguing for the sake of arguing.
I'm only using Northern Ireland as one example.if you look around the world right now,you will see many others.if you look at history....you will see many others.what is the common denominator?
google inquisition.
you know,you and I share the same faith.what is separating us right now is our understanding of the meaning of the word "religion".
google inquisition.
you know,you and I share the same faith.what is separating us right now is our understanding of the meaning of the word "religion".
and how do you know what I know about Ireland?
test me on what? yes,I'm up for testing....let er rip.
yes,you're probably right.common denominators are surely for idiots.....lol.
no good can possibly come from this conversation,but like a train wreck,it's hard to look away from.
ohhhhh,you want to test me on the Bible? let's go then!
I don't have to cheat,I know the Bible very well.and quit trying to divert the topic.
you are just looking to argue,so I'm getting bored.you are not supporting your ideology,copping out if you will.
call me a pig all you want,but I will warn you that following so blindly you stop doing your own thinking is exactly the problem.
Merry Christmas.
you are just looking to argue,so I'm getting bored.you are not supporting your ideology,copping out if you will.
call me a pig all you want,but I will warn you that following so blindly you stop doing your own thinking is exactly the problem.
Merry Christmas.
Bella / don't you understand wonder is a nut case.
Bella at first I thought your pic was of Monets lilly pond at Gerevrlye but I see its an ice thing what is it?
Hey,it does kind of look like that doesn't it?! it seemed familiar to me but I couldn't place it.
It's just a snow and ice covered old bridge somewhere,I think it looks beautiful and dangerous at the same time.
It's just a snow and ice covered old bridge somewhere,I think it looks beautiful and dangerous at the same time.
true
O.K.
A test for Bella
SHABOOM and Tate are walking on the nude beach and two females offer them sex will they go to hell for looking at it?
Also you can go to my images and see me on the nude beach on all fours.
A test for Bella
SHABOOM and Tate are walking on the nude beach and two females offer them sex will they go to hell for looking at it?
Also you can go to my images and see me on the nude beach on all fours.
You bought your ticket to hell a long time ago,my luv.
and I know you well enough,to know no one's ever going to see any real pictures of you.
stop being a tease.
and I know you well enough,to know no one's ever going to see any real pictures of you.
stop being a tease.
I had them posted but DXP won't let you go to my images. Or any one else Ella and V/B did see them. also miss pirate
they acted shocked.
If you are showing everyone but me shocking photo's of yourself after all we've been through together,and the beautiful romance we once had....I will never speak to you again!!!
O.K. my baby photo
When is your next trip to St.Louis?
lol,asshole.
you might as well see my nude beach photo
exactly as I pictured you!
no wonder the sheep respect you
no wonder the sheep respect you
O.K.back to the forst and the ice
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