is god real

religion's officials have made religion into nothing more than a contest-an advertisement-the cell phone industry who makes things cheaper for people so they have more blind soldiers on their side. the way these people make out God or whoever they believe in makes me see God as a real judgemental, arrogant, shallow person-they make God sound like themselves. they feel they have the power to morph God's words and write new laws for the world. i believe 'God' is something inconprehensible to mere mortals. especially when the subject of evolution comes up to christians. they say that the soul passes on to heaven. but like souls, everyone has DNA and it's all different. how can you really tell? well, DNA is true physical evidence, souls cannot be seen, felt, heard, anything. i don't wish to dismantle beliefs or put anyone down, but when i talk to christians about these things, they either get enraged and call me a child of the devil(heh heh heh) or calmly tell me to 'believe.' all the darkness in the world happening in broad daylight and you expect me to believe i will be SAVED? the way it sounds to me is that believing is for those who can afford to believe. what kind of god needs money? in this world, 10% is a high amount of money for the average person. if they are lucky, 5% will be left after paying all the bills and the ridiculous taxes and gas to survive in this incompetent land. and they just say believe. have faith. where will your faith go in four years? god is only going to 'save' his chosen people. heaven will be annhialated and recreated anew. but what of us? we will be destroyed along with all connection to our present to make way for the future. doesn't sound like a god to me. that sounds like someone from some faraway planet of the same orientation as god's chosen people-a man. a man just as shallow as the very people he destroys-a hypocrit. so i ask you once more. is god real

I think we all have the power to be our own lil mini-gods, in a sense. If love is real inside of us and we try to be the best we can be for ourselves and for others, then that is God enough for me ..and the rest in the end, whatever may be, will come out in the dry-cycle. When all is said and done, i believe our souls (we) are here on a mission, on an imperfect planet to learn, to teach, to help, and become Masters of ourselves. Come what may, i do believe there is something greater out there, then what we can ever comprehend. i also think the idea or idealism of a "God", is inspiring for many people.

*on the Alien front; who knows, maybe we are the imperfect mutants abandoned millions of years ago, because of some mix-up or experiment; and are subsequently being monitored, for whatever reasons. But then who made the Aliens?? ..LOL

Yes, I think he's real ... both of them are real, actually. The problem is that most people don't realize .... yet .... that the Creator God is NOT the ultimate God, and the Creator God is evil in himself, he is the devil (as our minds have the ability to comprehend).

We are programmed to want unconditional love because this is what we have to give to him, and if we don't, then we are punished for not living up to this condition of loving him unconditionally.

We are programmed to believe that we have free will .. yet, a apart of this program has instilled in us a fear, telling us that we will go to hell if we use this free will in any way that questions.

We are programmed to say, "It must be God's will, he has a plan" .. when we encounter the suffering of innocence. We never question something like, "Where did the love of God go for Elisabeth and children who were prisoners in that dungeon for 24 years." .. because we know we aren't allowed to defy him when it comes to his choices in letting the innocent suffer .. because he has a plan.

Where does the love of this god go when innocent people are in dire straits?

The plan consists of ... loving him unconditionally, eventhough he has put conditions on us ... giving us free will that we will be punished for if we make a choice outside of his conditions ... and we are at risk for being forsaken, without question, if we are victims of circumstances.

How exactly is that saving anybody? Saving them from what?

The Creator God is a jealous God .. jealous of the Almighty and he would do anything to brainwash his lambs, so he can feel superiour.


It is said that when Satan comes to the earth, that he will trick a multitude of people into believing he was God, and this mass population of people will include the clergy. How will Priests be tricked? How will the humble servants of god be tricked who spent a life-time praising him be tricked?

And the answer is simple ..... it has already taken place. People were fooled thousands of years ago, and have lived all this time praising and worshipping the devil.

Every person who worships the Creator God, and hands their soul over to him has condemned their souls.

The Almighty God, on the other hand ... has begun to enlighten us so that we may be saved. We are all beginning to wake up and realize that the power is in us already, we have an internal flame of love, we can use our positive engery of the Christ Consciousness to bring to u

ooops, it just cut off, instead of telling me I was at my character limit ... hmmmm?


The Almighty God, on the other hand ... has begun to enlighten us so that we may be saved. We are all beginning to wake up and realize that the power is in us already, we have an internal flame of love, we can use our positive engery of the Christ Consciousness to bring to us peace, harmony and love. The Almighty has begun to make us aware that we are all a part of a Collective Consciousness in which our energy effects not only other people, also our environment ... we make our reality THROUGH individual thought, and through this thought, if used to love (if positive energy is used), then it raises our vibrations and makes us aware that there is a Grid, a band of souls that are connected to each other.

This is in contridiction to the Creator god ... he doesn't want us to know that we have the power already in us ..

I truly believe that this was the message from Jesus in which we missed because we were still blind and weren't envolved enough spiritually to comprehend what he was saying. It is my belief that Jesus came from the Almighty to try and wake us up, that he did NOT come from the Creator God.

The Nag Hammadi is a library of sacred scrolls, in which the church banned from being a part of the bible because these scrolls clearly outline that the Creator is NOT our god, and that Jesus came to cause war against the Creator by trying to enlighten us poor souls to the truth of our existence.

lol. What is God by the way?

A tremendous planet, maybe.

Okay People this topic is very touchy because most of u guys on this forum are atheist- One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God.God is within you, no one has seen God, but you have to know him within your self to feel God. Many of the Prophets (messangers) that came to us like Moses who brought us the commendments, Jesus who taught us to love each other as we do our selfs and love the one in which created us. Christens believe that Jesus was God in the form of man walking on earth and Muslims believe that Jesus was just a prophet sent by God to get his message across because people were not believing in one God. Please read Matthew 8, 9, 10 and 11 to witness the many miracles that Jesus performed through God. Jesus foretold things that the people did not believe the others mocked and scorned him because he was teaching people to love one another and that there is only one God. The reason why Jesus came to us in the first place and we still killed him. Have you ever known a man who can heal the sick? Raise the died? or fed mulitudes of people with one loaf of bread and a few fish? Only God can do such things. Supernatural things the are seen in disbelief. Do u believe in Ghost? because if u do then u can believe in God. As for me, I was brought up in the church, a penticostal church i learned that Jesus is the son of God and he consists of three sprits The father, (which is God) The son (which is Jesus) and The Holy Ghost (which is the spirit) "The Trinity". I later learned that The Trinity was something that was made up by the Greeks to encourge true Monotheism (One God). I grew up accepting that because that is what i was taught, until years later I met someone who was strongly into Islam (submission) thats what Islam means.I started to resent him because he didn't what I believed he didn't believe that Jesus was the son God, but that he was just mere messanger sent by God through a virgin woman (Immaculate Deception)to delay a message from God. Who do you know of a person ever born trough a virgin woman? Supernatural. Any how, I started to read about Islam because I was interested in it, still reading. We can never learn to much, that's why God gave us "free will" the liberty to make our own individual choices-and our own mistakes-is essential to human dignity(Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf) We tend to believe in only what we see because it is there, but when something is not seen do we still believe? Faith is what religion is. Loving each other a

Okay People this topic is very touchy because most of u guys on this forum are atheist- One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God.God is within you, no one has seen God, but you have to know him within your self to feel God. Many of the Prophets (messangers) that came to us like Moses who brought us the commendments, Jesus who taught us to love each other as we do our selfs and love the one in which created us. Christens believe that Jesus was God in the form of man walking on earth and Muslims believe that Jesus was just a prophet sent by God to get his message across because people were not believing in one God. Please read Matthew 8, 9, 10 and 11 to witness the many miracles that Jesus performed through God. Jesus foretold things that the people did not believe the others mocked and scorned him because he was teaching people to love one another and that there is only one God. The reason why Jesus came to us in the first place and we still killed him. Have you ever known a man who can heal the sick? Raise the died? or fed mulitudes of people with one loaf of bread and a few fish? Only God can do such things. Supernatural things the are seen in disbelief. Do u believe in Ghost? because if u do then u can believe in God. As for me, I was brought up in the church, a penticostal church i learned that Jesus is the son of God and he consists of three sprits The father, (which is God) The son (which is Jesus) and The Holy Ghost (which is the spirit) "The Trinity". I later learned that The Trinity was something that was made up by the Greeks to encourge true Monotheism (One God). I grew up accepting that because that is what i was taught, until years later I met someone who was strongly into Islam (submission) thats what Islam means.I started to resent him because he didn't what I believed he didn't believe that Jesus was the son God, but that he was just mere messanger sent by God through a virgin woman (Immaculate Deception)to delay a message from God. Who do you know of a person ever born trough a virgin woman? Supernatural. Any how, I started to read about Islam because I was interested in it, still reading. We can never learn to much, that's why God gave us "free will" the liberty to make our own individual choices-and our own mistakes-is essential to human dignity(Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf) We tend to believe in only what we see because it is there, but when something is not seen do we still believe? Faith is what religion is. Loving each other a

I believe the Creator God is real, Cancershorti, the one you pray to .. and I also believe he is the one who is evil, in himself, and that's why this world is experiencing all the religious hatred for each other, even fighting wars over him.

And as much as people in this world question WHY and HOW could a loving God allow these atrocities to happen if it's all about LOVE ... they are also questioning his position. When people say such things, they aren't saying that they don't believe he exists .. they are saying they can't believe that a loving God would allow this, if he truly loved us.

As each passes .. more and more people are being enlightened to the truth .. the real truth .. and that is ... IF .. IF ... he was a loving God, these things wouldn't be happening to us. And as every day passes, more and more people are beginning to comprehend that it's their personal power of positive energy that is molding their realities, and NOT a Creator God who proclaims that ONLY through faith in him can your life be valuable.

That ^^^^^^^ is not saying that he isn't real, that is saying that he isn't who he claims to be.

Don't confuse atheism with Truth ... for a person to question the Creator God's honesty doesn't equate to being an atheist, for an atheist doesn't believe he exists, at all.

There is no evil in God. He wouldn't be God if there were any evil within him. Why when something bad happens everyone questions God? It's not God who does these things. People have been killing and mistreating one other for years, I mean years. Lucifer is reponsible for these vicious acts that humans do to one another. He wants us to fight amongst each other because it is his will. God sent many prophets here to show us how to defeat him within our lives. He will attack the religions more then the people who doesn't believe because he already conquered them. Exactly, I know an atheist doesn't believe in God at all, but thats okay. Many Muslims, Christens and Jews believe that these infidels or automatically going to hell, but our religion teaches us not to judge one another but respect each others opinions. This is were our free will takes place within the religious world. These that happen in the world is not of God. Like I said true religion is to love and respect one another as u do yourself. Please do not confuse this🙂

Aaliyah y u hide ur post?

well, i don't know about God being good or evil, but i do know that he's jealous, which is kind of hypocritical because jealousy is a sin. but perhaps hes jealous because he wants to make nonbelievers realize that they should believe. i think, we're living in a story. living in someones head. they know everything thats going to happen and that has happened, just like story writers and stuff. i believe, everytime someone creates something with the depth to survive in their mind, they begin to exist in some other dimension or universe. and if thats the case...idk. that kinda goes into some logic incomprehensible to humans. but thats what i think the higher power is. i think God is someone who we cannot comprehend. but, in reality, could he just be part of a story in someone else's head? could the only reason people worship him so is because he says to? not in the obvious way they teach in church, but because he's the master of his own mind. perhaps there's a never-ending chain of stories in someones head. maybe when someone creates a character or writes a story, perhaps it becomes a reality somewhere. not in this reality, but in the reality of their own mind...obviously lol. but i mean perhaps we are just thoughts and dreams...idk. but clearly since we can act on our own will means that whoever could be thinking or dreaming us is far beyond our ability to comprehend. heh, very interesting indeed.

"everytime someone creates something with the depth to survive in their mind, they begin to exist in some other dimension or universe."

"perhaps we are just thoughts and dreams"



Interesting .... which would explain a lot.

"perhaps we are just thoughts and dreams"

Life lately has made me thinking of the matrix... can I have the blue pill now .so that I can wake up or was it the red pill.

twas the blue pill. the matrix got me thinking too when i saw it. but something about it just makes you shake yuour head in disbelief. maybe its keanu reeves' fault lol.

Perhaps, the theory of karma was misunderstood by our deficient brains, much like Jesus message to us ..... it's possible that we erroneously believe that karma created is for a life after this one, to follow us and be the mold for the next life that starts after this one ... when in reality, this positive/negative energy is co-existing simultaneously on numerous different dimensions .. as we create it to exist.

Would explain a lot of things ... deja vu, feelings that someone is present with you and watching you, psychic messages, astral projections ... if we are co-existing on different levels currently, and these other realities of ourselves are attached to us .. then it would seem plausible that these phenomenas are possible.

The father, son and holy spirit, for example ..... our puny brains interpretated this to mean entities that are inclusive of a master being. But, perhaps, this was simply an example being told to us that we all have a multiple existance .... Jesus said: It is within you.


And we couldn't grasp it because we think, therefore we don't know, so we had to put this condition onto something that is beyond our comprehension.

There is no God in my existence. He is not real to me. My life works that way.

My best friend is a spiritual healer and believes in beings that she can communicate with. She is happy and her life works that way.

If it works for you, take it on board for the journey. That's how I approach everything, including God.

The actual answer to the question; I'll leave that to the smart people.

I just had a class in Spirituality and Values. Had to write a paper on Chrisitanity vs. (Postmodernism, Human Secularism and Naturalism). What the last three had in common was the absence of God in its beliefs. These three religions believed in a scientific basis for existence. I did come to my own conclusion about what I believed - after doing the research and writing the paper. But, there's not enough room to post it here.

But, the book we were asked to read was called, The Universe Next Door: A Basic Worldview Catalog, 4th Ed., by James W. Sire. It described different worldviews and presents 7 basic questions you can apply to each worldview.

1. What is the prime reality - the really real?
2. What is the nature of external reality (that is the world around us?)
3. What is a human being?
4. What happens to a person at death?
5. Why is it possible to know anything at all?
6. How do we know what is right and wrong?
7. What is the meaning of human history?

It may not give you a flat answer to your question, but it will make you think about what YOU believe personally.

ooops... Postmodernism - means justifies the ends kind of worldview...

forgive them SHABOOM

GOD is real.

Ok. just have to share. I have been having the hardest year of my life. So, many bad things has happend.One of my cousins killed himself and I found the body, then the love of my life left me,got depressed,my best friend died in a car accident, almost lost my job because... I just couldn't get my act together.I was crying and being pathetic all the time. And it seemed like every morning I would get up in a hole.

I have always loved God. and I could not believe that he could break my spirit like that. And why he has abondend me.Even hated him for awhile.I didn't pray and decided to not ask him for anything anymore... because all I got was heartache.

Now almost 9 months later things are looking up for me. Just got a promotion -yesterday, the vice president is comming to meet me next week. And I might be on my way to New York soon. Always wanted the job there.

I met someone,he swept me of my feet.And now I am sitting here crying my eyes out. Because God really did save the best for last.And he never gave up on me. And all of the things that I went through... seems like a lifetime away.

" It is my belief that Jesus came from the Almighty to try and wake us up, that he did NOT come from the Creator God."

I disagree, As much as I read the bible, not once have I ever heard Jesus mention 2 gods, but just one God....

tat sounds stupid.

I agree moon eyes T needs more Bran

interesting thoughts..

Actually i think the message (of) ..is what's most important. i believe God is about an "ideal" to be the best we can be to ourselves and each other, no matter who we are or where we live on this Earth. *It's all inclusive, no matter religion, ideology, sect or atheism-lack of belief.

P-Angel, everything you have said thus far embodies everything that I believe. I believe in god, first of all. I believe he is beginning to wake people up in terms of spirituality. You won't find it in a church thats for sure. Tell me this.
Why do people believe that god is someone you have to seek out and find like a crazy ass labyrinth? Why do people look up into the sky when they pray? And Why to people feel like they need a preacher to communicate with the Lord if he has been living in us all along—
People WAKE UP! The reason why bad things happen to good people is because bad people do bad things. Even good people do bad things sometimes. That's why we shouldn't judge each other. If god gave his only son, the ultimate sacrife, don't you think it's a bit selfish to question why small things (in comparison to what God's son went through) happen to us?

Holy Trinity - refers to Islam, Judaism, and Christianity. It is important the we seek knowledge from all three books to get a better understanding of why we are here.

((The important thing is to believe in something that makes you a better person))

this is stupid. believing in something doesn't make anyone a better person. It makes them willfully ignorant.

core of every religion is a set of rules which judges people and promotes further ignorance and thereby attaining mind control over a group of people. Peace has never been in the agenda of any religion. Christians live to die so they can get to see heaven. Its like kids living to see disney land. Its kinda same for every religion. Born out of partial ignorance of nature and its laws.

From a purely neutral, logical perspective, the way I see it is once we know about God, we are held accountable for what we know. I guess you could call it something like the "Age of Enlightenment". At that point, we can decide either to believe in God or not and that decision ultimately decides whether you go to heaven or hell, the choice is your's...or so I've heard. However, if you think about it, in a way, we kind of don't have much of a choice cause we have everything to lose by not believing and nothing to lose by believing. Now let's assume there is no God and we die a believer..so...? Nothing lost and no heaven or hell to worry about any longer. But on the other hand, let's assume there is a God and we deny him. We die and find out that there was a God all along...Now we have to spend the rest of ETERNITY in hell! Turned out we had everything to lose to what we had thought was such a seemingly trivial decision. I'd say that's a pretty shitty deal to burn in hell for that. But I guess at least it was our choice in the end afterall huh? Pretty scary thought...

OMG OS - I'm real scared!

Putting the fear in, drives most people to believe .. instead of love

fear = negative energy

now that's scary !!!!!!

🙂 just kidding

How about this is it there is nothing beyound, and if this is all there is perhaps we should try to take better care of it and ourselfs.

I read this now I must ask myself is 7 real?

i never read all the comments about God, its existence and all. but according to me if u believe in God it gives u a feeling about some one greater that us is in support of us. if u dont believe in God, u will start to feel that we have to be stronger in order to support ourselves.

"Is God real?"

i think any belief can be real for you, if it effects you personally, or on some other level.

Other than that, we will never know the reality til our last breathe. What is (actually) real has nothing to do with what we (choose) to believe or not believe. It is what it is..

Yes, God is most defintely real. He is the creator. The Creator is in all His creations including us. He is the earth and the animals and the sky and the moon and stars and every blade of grass and every hair on your head. everything. Just look at His awesomness. We come from the ground. "Dust to Dust" which is why God is father
and earth is mother because this is where we come. So why would you hurt your mother?
Why would you not respect your father? Mans first name was Adam. Adam means "red man
of red earth"

even the Indians new who God was before our version came along. IT WAS IDENTICAL. COINCIDENCE? I DONT THINK SO. they had prophets too(see-ers).

Tetragrammaton.

In the preface of the bible, it says that the word 'god' came from a translation of this word above. As it was written, the word god was not used, the word "Tetragrammaton" was used. So, Tetragrammaton is the actual name.

Tetragrammaton is defined as The Arc of the Covenant as being a three sided crystal which had an energy projection, very powerful. This Arc is what parted both seas, for Moses and Joshua to cross with the people. This Arc is described as having pumes rising from it, and it had the capability to transfer thought into the minds of the humans who protected it. It was able to move on it's own, and this is why Moses wandered the desert for 40 years for = they were following this Crystal, who is God.

This crystal, as the bible says, would destroy any soul who wasn't worthy and pure of heart, and so therefore it had to be encased and protected. The Great Pyramid of Gesa (coincidently 3-sided) was built, with it's vault, which just happened to be the exact measurement of the encased Arc, with intentions of it (Pyramids vault) being the Arcs home.

Ironically, Atlantis was powered by a single crystal .. a whole city, completely operated by the great power of this stone. In the claw of the Lion that protects the sacred temple in China is a sphere of a tetrahedron, which in it's intricacy, is a design of fractal geometry which represents the vectral equalibrium of reality. Also, crop circles clearly convey this fractal geometry, which is a mathematical geometric equation to define the mechanics of how we were made and continue to exist = projection of magnetic energy as a sphere, coupled with the vaccum of gravity = the atom was a creation of the loop-back from this precision of looped energy in perfect equalibrium, as the tetra stays in balance from the perfectly aligned polarization.


In other words .... we were created from this energy force as a black hole of singularity, to put structure, so infinity can be experienced in the finite .. and god is a crystal.

Jesus was born within a close proximity of the Arc of the Covenant, which is this crystal that powered Atlantis, which had to be saved when Atlantis was flooded (the Great Flood mentioned in the bible) .. and because Jesus's energy was effected by this crystal, he was born ascended, and had the capabilities of this Tetragrammaton's energy.

The Star of David in the sky upon his birth is a representation, as it's a perfect geometrical shape of the Tetrehedron.

The Hebrew letters YHWH, have been translated into English as LORD.

Capitalized = LORD

This translation, capitalized, references YHWH, also known as the Tetragrammaton. So, every time you read lord in the bible, capitalized (LORD) .... it is talking about this 3-sided crystal that powered the world, and worthy of the name of God.

Four .. it's FOUR


tsk .. dumbass

I had my first mystical experience last week, I was feeling down and I had this chillout song playing over and over and was wrestling with thoughts and emotions in a way i never experienced, at that moment I realised that I am very volunerable and that i needed someone to love me to feel safe.

the weird thing is that at that moment I beleived in god and was fascinated by this thing, so fascinated that i found my physical being to be obsolete, I went like this for a whole night, music was playing and i was jotting down things glorifying this creature i discovered, I lost sleep/hunger, my vision was rather blurry and my coordination was was minimal.

funny thing is that in mood i felt like this god was mine and mine and that he was the one volunerable somehow because all these fanatics who use him for their own agenda and was vowing not to let that happen by standing against themand protecting my preception of him which i thought was the purest form of being.

i felt very happy too and somehow realised why my grandfather would stay up all night praying and lose interest in the material things of life, he ate little, slept little and lived in a very perimittive setting with minimal everything. yet somehow he had this satisfaction in his eyes that lead to a constant smile-to-self.

i was a beleiver that night for the first time in my life and I realised how helpful it was for my internal peace but as I think about it now I realise that even I was "using" god to feel good about myself, true i didn't wanna use god to hurt others, control them or use them for my personal advancement but nonetheless I this god I wanted to "serve" by worshiping him and in the meantime i enjoyed it so much that my physical urges ceased to exist, I also wanted to protect his name from those who use it in vein.

so there you go it's a vicious circle again, we create the version of god which suit us better and make us feel good. i feel good when I "know" my god as the purest thing, serve him via worship and protect his name from ignorants.

god s a figmant of one's imagination which serves their preception of the world around them and therefore gives them internal peace, which is why it is dangerous to beleive in god because it will make one complacent.

that's why only people at a later stage of their lives should be allowed to beleive in god

ok lets see....being a creator is.....pretty interesting. you ask yourself 'why does this person have to die?' the answer, in truth, is that it is their time which gives support to the bit of a theory i have that maybe we aren't exactly part of a story or a concept of thought, but created. plain and simple. duh, right? but think about that. think about what god is in reality since this reality isn't really real compared to his. maybe we're just a tv show in his reality. just entertainment. what kind of person could god be based off of this theory? they say god has always been. maybe so, but if he can understand the concept of beginning and end-if he is often reffered to as the beginning and end and base an entire existence based off of that one truth, how can he have always been? what is always? always can only be true based on something that begun and ended, otherwise, you wouldn't know and there's a chance that you're wrong. saying god is always, is something that can't exactly be verified. all that begins shall end he says. what is his end? i see 2 branches. perhaps he made our brains incapable of reaching full capacity so we wouldn't understand this concept of infinite...what would it do to us i wonder? infinite=goes on forever, but why when you think of it, can't you go any deeper than that? or is it just me? the other branch, let's say he does exist in another reality like we do. let's say this reality he's in, is also based off the concept of time, our one and only truth. but then, is time just an excuse for growth? just a measurement rather? damn. all this thinking. ok, give me more to go off of please