I want my Cake and Eat it 2

This topic was created in the Sagittarius forum by DMV on Monday, August 11, 2014 and has 61 replies.
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So here's the thing. I had been thinking about withholding sex till i get a commitment, which is VERY new for me. But at the end of the day, i dont really want a commitment. Even typing that word gives me shortness of breath. I dont want to go out on dates or meet anyone's mama.
What i do want is awesome sex and a buddy to do fun things with. "Hey DMV, i saw this water sports thing and hey, you wanna roll? Sure homey. Then lets have sex afterwards in the parking lot and then go get froyo." I want almost all the benefits of a relationship without really being in one. The thought of being tied to someone is not a turn on.
The "friendship" with the sag was damn near perfect. I had a similar friendship with a tauri guy. Sex was good and we did alot of fun stuff. But both started playing games and i gave them their walking papers.
The problem Im finding is that men play games and if there was any girl who you didnt have to play a game with, its DMV. You can be honest with that you want and i wont look at you and differently. Its when you dont reveal your intentions and start playing games, shit becomes an issue.
Anyways, I dont want to give up sex but i also cant take these disrespectful men anymore and these silly games they try to play.
Am i just dreaming? does a relationship like this exist?
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ahh i feel the same way sometimes.
I don't know what's wrong with men. When you just hang out with them like that
a)they start getting jealous and try making you jealous
b)when you don't give them what they want (some kind of commitment or control), they start assuming that you are somehow inferior- because you are so free and hanging out with them without expecting anything, so they don't really respect you
girl, we are all wired to think a certain way I'm afraid. It must be because of all the stories you read as a child, and all the movies you watch, or religion...
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Posted by DMV
So here's the thing. I had been thinking about withholding sex till i get a commitment, which is VERY new for me. But at the end of the day, i dont really want a commitment. Even typing that word gives me shortness of breath. I dont want to go out on dates or meet anyone's mama.
What i do want is awesome sex and a buddy to do fun things with. "Hey DMV, i saw this water sports thing and hey, you wanna roll? Sure homey. Then lets have sex afterwards in the parking lot and then go get froyo." I want almost all the benefits of a relationship without really being in one. The thought of being tied to someone is not a turn on.
The "friendship" with the sag was damn near perfect. I had a similar friendship with a tauri guy. Sex was good and we did alot of fun stuff. But both started playing games and i gave them their walking papers.
The problem Im finding is that men play games and if there was any girl who you didnt have to play a game with, its DMV. You can be honest with that you want and i wont look at you and differently. Its when you dont reveal your intentions and start playing games, shit becomes an issue.
Anyways, I dont want to give up sex but i also cant take these disrespectful men anymore and these silly games they try to play.
Am i just dreaming? does a relationship like this exist?

What if a guy ask you to do a threesome in this type of relationship,are you down?? Winking
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Posted by tiziani
Can you not just start bringing that into your everyday thoughts?

"I'd like a relationship where my partner understands the thought of being tied to someone is not a turn on"
Seems like a fair deal to me.




hey Tiz, I am trying to think more and more about the best type of friendship for me. I know i cant be the only human who thinks like this. There has to be that one guy who picks up what im putting down.
It just seems like with the men i run into, sex and respect does not go hand in hand.
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Posted by DMV
So here's the thing. I had been thinking about withholding sex till i get a commitment, which is VERY new for me. But at the end of the day, i dont really want a commitment. Even typing that word gives me shortness of breath. I dont want to go out on dates or meet anyone's mama.
What i do want is awesome sex and a buddy to do fun things with. "Hey DMV, i saw this water sports thing and hey, you wanna roll? Sure homey. Then lets have sex afterwards in the parking lot and then go get froyo." I want almost all the benefits of a relationship without really being in one. The thought of being tied to someone is not a turn on.
The "friendship" with the sag was damn near perfect. I had a similar friendship with a tauri guy. Sex was good and we did alot of fun stuff. But both started playing games and i gave them their walking papers.
The problem Im finding is that men play games and if there was any girl who you didnt have to play a game with, its DMV. You can be honest with that you want and i wont look at you and differently. Its when you dont reveal your intentions and start playing games, shit becomes an issue.
Anyways, I dont want to give up sex but i also cant take these disrespectful men anymore and these silly games they try to play.
Am i just dreaming? does a relationship like this exist?

What if a guy ask you to do a threesome in this type of relationship,are you down?? Winking
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Me and the tauri got DOWN! threesome, swingers clubs, we ran the gambit.
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I think I like you...Winking
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Posted by beggarsblanket
ahh i feel the same way sometimes.
I don't know what's wrong with men. When you just hang out with them like that
a)they start getting jealous and try making you jealous
b)when you don't give them what they want (some kind of commitment or control), they start assuming that you are somehow inferior- because you are so free and hanging out with them without expecting anything, so they don't really respect you
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this is exactly what happens. The sag was perfect for 5 years until he got territorial, jealous, and games soon followed. its saddens me to think that after 5 years, he couldnt just bring up his issues with me. Even when he went home to his girlfriend every night, he still couldnt be rational about things that went on in my own life.
you can fuck on the side, but i cant?
why the games, why the disrespect?
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Posted by RainDancer88
Ya know, I can respond and behave as a committed woman does but once the word, "Girlfriend" comes into play I clam up. I have told my partner that I am in a relationship with him even though I keep breaking off our title.
Something flips in my brain when it becomes "official"
Last time he tried to say we were "boyfriend and girlfriend" I told him I felt like he shoved a dry towel down my throat and I freaked.


i feel you. i freak out as well. Even being asked to go out on a date. Thats an immediate no thank you. It must be a friend type of situation where i feel no entanglements or commitments.
I was speaking to a friend of mine yesterday about how i wanted to withhold sex till commitment, but i didnt even believe the words coming out of my own mouth. Thats not what i want.
I want to have sex with a guy and eat froyo and have him not go nuts. is that so much to ask?
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Those kinds of "relationships" do exist, but I don't know about FWB relationships. If a guy knows it's not serious, unfortunately, he's gonna treat it that way. He probably will know what he want, but what happens if he really starts to like you? It sounds like you won't ever really want anything serious (b/c it does require meeting the fam and going out on dates lol, at least where I come from it does) A man who knows you won't ever get serious won't stick his neck out there. As much as people wanna try and make us out to be 2 completely different creatures, men and women are ultimately the same. If he falls in love, he wants his girl to be committed to him, and all the other boring stuff that comes along with it lol. If not, he's gonna play, like you're playing because DMV, hun, that's what you're doing. Not trying to come at you wrong or anything b/c you're cool as hell, but you can't want commitment, without the most important part, committing. Any man, who's a real man, is gonna wanna KNOW that if he falls for you, you will be willing to give him all of you and do the same. Maybe for a Sag Woman that's common to want, but I don't think a real man, who's not gonna play games, is going to succomb to those terms. You're pretty much gonna get what you ask for.
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Yea sometimes. But it won't last forever. Most men want commitment eventually. So you can ride it till they find someone who will be serious with them or maybe you just leave when you get board.

But I get what you mean "dating relationship" won't get to stay in that phase forever. That is wishing thinking.
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Posted by ChocolateAries
Those kinds of "relationships" do exist, but I don't know about FWB relationships. If a guy knows it's not serious, unfortunately, he's gonna treat it that way. He probably will know what he want, but what happens if he really starts to like you? It sounds like you won't ever really want anything serious (b/c it does require meeting the fam and going out on dates lol, at least where I come from it does) A man who knows you won't ever get serious won't stick his neck out there. As much as people wanna try and make us out to be 2 completely different creatures, men and women are ultimately the same. If he falls in love, he wants his girl to be committed to him, and all the other boring stuff that comes along with it lol. If not, he's gonna play, like you're playing because DMV, hun, that's what you're doing. Not trying to come at you wrong or anything b/c you're cool as hell, but you can't want commitment, without the most important part, committing. Any man, who's a real man, is gonna wanna KNOW that if he falls for you, you will be willing to give him all of you and do the same. Maybe for a Sag Woman that's common to want, but I don't think a real man, who's not gonna play games, is going to succomb to those terms. You're pretty much gonna get what you ask for.


no worries smile
So i cant have the cake and eat it 2? FWB will eventually lead to his feelings getting hurt. it may take 1 week, 1 month, or 5 years. eventually he will get hurt. .
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I think these types of relationships exist only if you find the person who wants the same thing. you can be commited to only each other sexually with out all the other things that come along with it like meeting his mama. Cant you just be up front and honest and tell him exactly what it is you want and if he doesnt want the same then the choice is his to make? I think as long as you are honest about what you want and make it clear that this is all you have to offer right now and possible forever then there is no harm in that. besides if he is the one for you. you never know what will happen in the future.
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So is it possible for a man to respect a woman in a FWB situation?
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Posted by shorty1978
I think these types of relationships exist only if you find the person who wants the same thing. you can be commited to only each other sexually with out all the other things that come along with it like meeting his mama. Cant you just be up front and honest and tell him exactly what it is you want and if he doesnt want the same then the choice is his to make? I think as long as you are honest about what you want and make it clear that this is all you have to offer right now and possible forever then there is no harm in that. besides if he is the one for you. you never know what will happen in the future.



i think you got it. The reason why i am having trouble is because i want them to read between the lines. I myself am not that upfront about my intentions.
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if theres anything i've learned from the friends with benefits game. Is that it almost always doesnt end pretty.... Its ok to have that kind of mentality but respect goes both ways.
lol guys got feelings too
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Regardless of how others may respect me (or not), I need to be able to respect myself in any given relationship. I ask myself - what type of person am I becoming in their presence? And more importantly do I like it?
I think these questions keep me sane and it's a lot less stress.
i will take these questions on. this will be helpful. I have started to be more upfront with men on my intentions and thus giving them the choice if they want to continue or not. not making the decision for the other person.
as with the girl and visual stuff. Im always thinking about how i come across.
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Posted by AL4813

lol guys got feelings too


thats an urban legend Tongue
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being up front and honest was very hard for me at first to i would lead people on because i expected them to just know how i was feeling... now at all times I am clear on my opinion on things and what i expect in return.... tbh.. i learned this from my leo it is a quality i will always take with me it works in relationship of all types... if that is what you want from this man DMV be forward and tell him and he will only respect you for it.. trust me on that. no games its all out in the open and its two adults making an informed decision on the relationship and its future.
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Posted by arietteheart2
"You can be honest with that you want and i wont look at you and differently. Its when you dont reveal your intentions and start playing games, shit becomes an issue."
Thank you. Amen. Hallelujah.
My libra moon just wants everything fair. Are you dating around? Ok cool, I want to keep my options open too.
But every time I start treating people the way they treatment I get nasty nasty backlash. I don't even sleep with multiple ppl at a time. I just want the right to go out and flirt and have a good time if we've both agreed this isn't a committed relationship. I even get called weird bc I'm able to keep my feelings in check. I do have feelings! Don't ever mistake that I don't...but I need so much more than basic shit and crumbs to fall in love. I need the whole shebang...and until I get that I'm content not being in a relationship.



right. i have feelings, i just know what to do with them. Maybe men dont have enough practice with their emotions like women do.
im starting to think that they only play games because they want me to lay my cards on the table b4 they do and i aint about that life.
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Posted by shorty1978
being up front and honest was very hard for me at first to i would lead people on because i expected them to just know how i was feeling... now at all times I am clear on my opinion on things and what i expect in return.... tbh.. i learned this from my leo it is a quality i will always take with me it works in relationship of all types... if that is what you want from this man DMV be forward and tell him and he will only respect you for it.. trust me on that. no games its all out in the open and its two adults making an informed decision on the relationship and its future.


hmmm. i can do that with my next. something more doesnt mean a relationship. it just means that i need to do more than just have sex. im going to say just that.
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I think a relationship like that can exists, it just has to between to honest people who know what they want out of life. I think the word ???commitment?? ruins a perfectly good relationship. It obligates you in some way creating pressure to perform. I just learned this the hard way. Me and the Sag decided you chill out, things were getting to heavy to soon. Believe it or not, I feel like this huge weight has been lifted off my shoulders and I have no desire to date anyone else.
Secondly, I had that relationship with a Sag sun Cap moon guy, but he was in a relationship. He was very honest about his situation from the beginning so we had trust. The bond that we shared was amazing. He came home to me every night, took care of things around my house, and ate the box like a champ. The reason why that ended because I fell for the virgo. The sag was not happy about that. We still keep in touch and just recently he sent me a message saying that he loves me and that we shared a very special bond??_
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Posted by DMV
So is it possible for a man to respect a woman in a FWB situation?



No. He'll want a commitment at some point or he'll leave you for someone who does. There is not a guy who will fuck you and take you out for dinner and have fun times and live in nirvana till your old and grey without being your boyfriend. Doesn't really exist.
If you find him though, give him my number Winking
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Posted by DMV
So here's the thing. I had been thinking about withholding sex till i get a commitment, which is VERY new for me. But at the end of the day, i dont really want a commitment. Even typing that word gives me shortness of breath. I dont want to go out on dates or meet anyone's mama.


Commitment can mean anything you want it to, for as long as you want it to.
Maybe try setting specific time frames instead of panicking over the possibility of an open-ended eternity?
Be clear with your boys up front about your terms and conditions. But let them know they/the situation comes up for review in 3 months, just in case they start over stepping.
IDK though.. just my two cents. I think a lot of people get freaked out about "committing", but a commitment doesn't have to mean forever. I "committed" to a dinner party, but I'll be damned if that shit is lasting more than 2 hours.
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This has always been my problem with saggitarius's. they don't know how to communicate their feelings and for some reason thats my fault.
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Posted by HeartOfALioN
This has always been my problem with saggitarius's. they don't know how to communicate their feelings and for some reason thats my fault.


true. i dont communicate my feelings at all very well verbally. much more into being more into action.
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This has always been my problem with saggitarius's. they don't know how to communicate their feelings and for some reason thats my fault.


true. i dont communicate my feelings at all very well verbally. much more into being more into action.


I used to be like this and sometimes I'am, but i also know closed mouths dont get fed...
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yes. communication without action is just as bad as action without communication.
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i guess it goes to both people really. I mean i dont feel as pressed to share my intentions if the guy isnt going to tell me his intentions...
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Posted by HeartOfALioN
This has always been my problem with saggitarius's. they don't know how to communicate their feelings and for some reason thats my fault.

I DO!!!
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I never use to communicate my feelings well... maybe i still dont lol but i think i have gotten really good at it. it helps when you find the person that makes it easy to do.
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Posted by FrostAndBite
What about putting less emphasis on labels?
You say being asked out on a date freaks you out. But a date very well may be froyo followed by sex in the parking lot. Dates could be your thing, if they were fun for you. They don't have to denote formal commitment. Hell even commitment doesn't have to look the way you imagine it. I know quite a few 'committed' couples in open relationships, poly relationships, separate housing relationships, man gets to step out woman doesn't, women gets to step out man doesn't,etc.
People make their own rules and definitions nowadays. I'd say play off that and just set your own intentions accordingly.


thats a good way to go about things. I just have to meet someone who plays the same type of baseball i do smile
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Posted by DMV
i guess it goes to both people really. I mean i dont feel as pressed to share my intentions if the guy isnt going to tell me his intentions...


oh this is about who goes first? if this is a contest then i think whoever goes first wins cause down the line when problems occur about the relationship status the person who went first has already set the standard for it.
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I Have to get out of the mentality of worrying about their feelings and focus on mine. state what i want and move on from there.
Kind of like what you were talking about Shorty smile
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Posted by Sagtastic2
Posted by HeartOfALioN
This has always been my problem with saggitarius's. they don't know how to communicate their feelings and for some reason thats my fault.

I DO!!!
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lol you would be the first!
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Posted by HeartOfALioN
This has always been my problem with saggitarius's. they don't know how to communicate their feelings and for some reason thats my fault.

I DO!!!


lol you would be the first!
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Probably because I have a Cancer ascendant.
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Posted by tiziani
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So is it possible for a man to respect a woman in a FWB situation?



No. He'll want a commitment at some point or he'll leave you for someone who does. There is not a guy who will fuck you and take you out for dinner and have fun times and live in nirvana till your old and grey without being your boyfriend. Doesn't really exist.
If you find him though, give him my number Winking


That'd be easy to give all that to someone like you. Just without the sex part. That in itself is a commitment.

I don't really understand what the people in CO are smoking if you cannot find that there.
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Because deep down everyone wants a commitment. It is beyond rare to find people that aren't looking for plain old vanilla monogamy. You are not going to find " open, polyamorous, just sex people " down the street.
At the end of the road people want someone to love. Thats why FWB's or anything in between doesn't work out. Cause people want more.

I'm sorry you can sit there and tell yourself all you want that, you living in a fantasy and dream. NEEDLE IN HAY STACK to find people with different values.

Huge hay stack very little needles. It's just how it is. Just accept it.
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thats exactly it DMV, we are people pleasers... but ultimatly in the end we have to be happy with who we are so why dont make choices that make US happy.....
I dont like dates either in the formal sence... dinner and movies and junk like that. some of my perfect "dates" where watching my leo play baseball then sex in the car afterwards... or up all night just chatting and laughing drinking coffee in the parking lot then off to a hotel room. those are dates as well... if both people have that common interest and enjoy it then its a date!
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Posted by FrostAndBite
Idk sag89. I find the world to be extremely variant.
People are just afraid of letting theirs out first. Vulnerability, shame and rejection are stronger motivators than honesty and total acceptance.


aint that the damn truth
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Maybe try an aqua? Or someone with an aqua sign or maybe sag. They seem pretty cool with just friends and the benefits as well.
And who cares if they label it as a relationship. It's hard for things not to be confusing and for games not to be played if they lines are always blurred. Even if you call it a FWB it just always seems to go south :/
Are you afraid to commit because something better might come along or because you want to have sex with other people as well? Just trying to figure out where the idea of commitment is scary.
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Posted by DMV
So here's the thing. I had been thinking about withholding sex till i get a commitment, which is VERY new for me. But at the end of the day, i dont really want a commitment. Even typing that word gives me shortness of breath.


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Posted by DMV

The "friendship" with the sag was damn near perfect. I had a similar friendship with a tauri guy. Sex was good and we did alot of fun stuff. But both started playing games and i gave them their walking papers.
The problem Im finding is that men play games...You can be honest with that you want and i wont look at you and differently. Its when you dont reveal your intentions and start playing games, shit becomes an issue.
Anyways, I dont want to give up sex but i also cant take these disrespectful men anymore and these silly games they try to play.



I'm going to read further, but just in case no one else asked, when you state playing games, do you mean a) trying to keep you, b)turn casual into more or c) assuming you want more and running with that?
I'm asking so I can respond to this:
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Am i just dreaming? does a relationship like this exist?
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Also, why do you think you only find these type of men?
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Posted by RainDancer88
Ya know, I can respond and behave as a committed woman does but once the word, "Girlfriend" comes into play I clam up. I have told my partner that I am in a relationship with him even though I keep breaking off our title.
Something flips in my brain when it becomes "official"
Last time he tried to say we were "boyfriend and girlfriend" I told him I felt like he shoved a dry towel down my throat and I freaked.


i feel you. i freak out as well. Even being asked to go out on a date. Thats an immediate no thank you. It must be a friend type of situation where i feel no entanglements or commitments.
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How does this work with your Scorp bits, esp your Moon? I can relate to these comments to some degree. I literally feel a mini panic attack when I hear anything that means commitment (Venus in Sag), but a very committed and devoted relationship is the dream. It's like I am work against myself internally. Anyway, I know I am full of questions, but I had to ask. It also related to my last question in the last post.
Maybe I'll make a thread. Maybe not....
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by playing games, i mean this. They start lying, being disrespectful, being ambivalent, trying to make me jealous.
With the Sag, one night he left the toilet seat up. I fell in. I texted him the next morning and said lol, dont do that shit again. he texted me back, "lol, sorry about that. Oh yeah, when i say i love you, i dont really mean that shit." wtf are we talking about bagels here? so i texted him back, "why are you trying to beef with me? after 5 years, now you wanna tell em that shit."
after ignoring his ass for a month, i gave him a chance to explain himself. I told him that was soo wrong and he was trying to hurt me over some shit. If i knew the shit, i could better relate. but he refused to tell me. instead he says, "i didnt know you really liked me like that, so yeah i do love you."
so yeah, the fucking games. thats why i stopped seeing him. He would rather play with my emotions than just ask me where i stood.
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I think sometimes like im the only one because no one else shares?
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no one really shares on DXP other than new people. Everyone just seems to tell you what to do....
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Posted by DMV

The problem Im finding is that men play games and if there was any girl who you didnt have to play a game with, its DMV. You can be honest with that you want and i wont look at you and differently. Its when you dont reveal your intentions and start playing games, shit becomes an issue.
Anyways, I dont want to give up sex but i also cant take these disrespectful men anymore and these silly games they try to play.
Am i just dreaming? does a relationship like this exist?


Posted by DMV

The reason why i am having trouble is because i want them to read between the lines. I myself am not that upfront about my intentions.


I believe you answered your own question here and mine:
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Also, why do you think you only find these type of men?

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Start by being upfront yourself and see what happens afterwards. I think you can find what you're looking for.
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Ya know, I can respond and behave as a committed woman does but once the word, "Girlfriend" comes into play I clam up. I have told my partner that I am in a relationship with him even though I keep breaking off our title.
Something flips in my brain when it becomes "official"
Last time he tried to say we were "boyfriend and girlfriend" I told him I felt like he shoved a dry towel down my throat and I freaked.


i feel you. i freak out as well. Even being asked to go out on a date. Thats an immediate no thank you. It must be a friend type of situation where i feel no entanglements or commitments.


How does this work with your Scorp bits, esp your Moon? I can relate to these comments to some degree. I literally feel a mini panic attack when I hear anything that means commitment (Venus in Sag), but a very committed and devoted relationship is the dream. It's like I am work against myself internally. Anyway, I know I am full of questions, but I had to ask. It also related to my last question in the last post.
Maybe I'll make a thread. Maybe not....

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me ex leo through me for a loop. now i incorrectly think the same thing will happen. they sweet talk you and become monsters. How can someone be so nice/sweet do a 180 like that? That was alot for me to go through. to do it for the second time will take heaven and earth. i was committed and it left me penniless and brokenhearted. Now i pick relationships where that can never happen. i.e. unavailable men. NOW, unavailable men have issues. wtf gives.
your questions are never a problem. smile
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that relationship was 9 years ago. geez, still aint over those scars.
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Posted by DMV
by playing games, i mean this. They start lying, being disrespectful, being ambivalent, trying to make me jealous.
With the Sag, one night he left the toilet seat up. I fell in. I texted him the next morning and said lol, dont do that shit again. he texted me back, "lol, sorry about that. Oh yeah, when i say i love you, i dont really mean that shit." wtf are we talking about bagels here? so i texted him back, "why are you trying to beef with me? after 5 years, now you wanna tell em that shit."
after ignoring his ass for a month, i gave him a chance to explain himself. I told him that was soo wrong and he was trying to hurt me over some shit. If i knew the shit, i could better relate. but he refused to tell me. instead he says, "i didnt know you really liked me like that, so yeah i do love you."
so yeah, the fucking games. thats why i stopped seeing him. He would rather play with my emotions than just ask me where i stood.
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Okay. Got it. Well, I'm learning I can't expect to receive something I am not willing to give. For a long time I've been able to get what I wanted without giving very much (e.g. not putting myself out there). Someone close to me right now (that's his title Big Grin) is not making that possible. Frustrating the hell out of me, but that??s not his issue. I am having my bratty moments, but he's not backing down. I "hate" him sometimes because of it, but I'm glad he's not. I don't know about these two guys, but what I believe is the most hurtful experiences happen to teach you something about yourself. Simply put, if you want people to be straight with you, be straight with them.
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I think sometimes like im the only one because no one else shares?

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Big Grin. Oh they do. You just have to read between the lines.
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i just feel so silly at times talking about the shit i go through with men. i feel like most of you all already went through this in your teens and 20s. damn venus in cap. im just now starting to go through it all and i feel so brand new.
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me ex leo through me for a loop. now i incorrectly think the same thing will happen. they sweet talk you and become monsters. How can someone be so nice/sweet do a 180 like that? That was alot for me to go through. to do it for the second time will take heaven and earth. i was committed and it left me penniless and brokenhearted. Now i pick relationships where that can never happen. i.e. unavailable men. NOW, unavailable men have issues. wtf gives.
your questions are never a problem. smile


Leos.....hmph. Yes, a Leo was my first love, but it wasn't his fault that he left. His passing didn't make me any less angry or heartbroken. Even typing that makes my heart squeeze a little bit and I literally feel heat in my belly. I was annnnngry. At least you are aware of what you are doing and why. I was not for a long time.
I'm not gonna get into a "you need to let that go to find love" lecture, because that road isn't for everyone. However, my other post stands. If you want that type of relationship give what you expect. Be honest about what it is about for you. Right there and then, you will know what you're working with. Some people also need to keep a conversation like that live, because no two people (no matter how "in love and connected" they think they are) are ever on the same page at the same time. If your feelings shift, be upfront. Even if they don't you may need to take the lead by starting that conversation when you notice his does.
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Thats good advice smile
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Oops, I meant to quote this, not the other post
Posted by DMV
no one really shares on DXP other than new people.....


Big Grin. Oh they do. You just have to read between the lines.
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