I would like to file a complaint

Posted by Lostthoughts
So you run into bullies and don't stick up for yourself or socially and politely check them?

Posted by MidAtBest
it is sad how egos are allowed to run unchecked at work. i don't think having the same experience across workplaces is your fault necessarily-- do you have childhood trauma? this could be a dynamic instilled in childhood repeating itself throughout your life. I've been groped by 9 coworkers over my life now, 7 of whom full on touched my tits or ass, 2 who openly grabbed one or both. it wasn't my behavior because three of them were total strangers, an additional one being a customer, and we had a dress code/uniform at 3 of those workplaces. only my fault in that I'm not ambitious enough to get out of manufacturing and away from places that hire felons, and that I don't confront the person in the moment.
from here on out I've gotta confront the person in the moment, and I hope you're able to hone this skill as well. do you have little social interaction outside of work? that's a huge part of my problem, I never go around people to develop boundaries in the first place (and I don't want a social life). just be careful if you go to HR. I'd like to say you'll probably be ok, but I went to HR on a manager for the first time in my life back in November and I got fired January. I had 5 years 3 months there and he had been there less than a year. he got fired too, but he had friends who retaliated.

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Posted by MidAtBest
it is sad how egos are allowed to run unchecked at work. i don't think having the same experience across workplaces is your fault necessarily-- do you have childhood trauma? this could be a dynamic instilled in childhood repeating itself throughout your life. I've been groped by 9 coworkers over my life now, 7 of whom full on touched my tits or ass, 2 who openly grabbed one or both. it wasn't my behavior because three of them were total strangers, an additional one being a customer, and we had a dress code/uniform at 3 of those workplaces. only my fault in that I'm not ambitious enough to get out of manufacturing and away from places that hire felons, and that I don't confront the person in the moment.
from here on out I've gotta confront the person in the moment, and I hope you're able to hone this skill as well. do you have little social interaction outside of work? that's a huge part of my problem, I never go around people to develop boundaries in the first place (and I don't want a social life). just be careful if you go to HR. I'd like to say you'll probably be ok, but I went to HR on a manager for the first time in my life back in November and I got fired January. I had 5 years 3 months there and he had been there less than a year. he got fired too, but he had friends who retaliated.

You’re absolutely right.
Confronting at the moment is best.
I have confronted friends, coworkers and family members in the moment. It always comes as a shock to them.

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Posted by Lostthoughts
So you run into bullies and don't stick up for yourself or socially and politely check them?

Yes and no
Sometimes as a black woman in corporate America you have to behave differently or you get judged.
Sometimes me resigning IS sticking up for myself.
I’ve gone to HR in the past and have gotten little support.
It’s a balancing act of sorts

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Posted by Lulufer
Instead of going straight to a complaint, you might get more insight by asking her, “How do you feel about the way we’ve worked together so far?” It shifts the weight onto her to explain herself and allows you to take lead. Prepare for what you want to say.
The fact that she clapped on a professional Zoom call is absolutely disgusting behavior for a manager. And that no one shut it down is insane. I understand why this is on your mind all day. When someone publicly disrespects you like that, its hard to let go and not dwell on it. But this can be a real turning point in learning how to stand up for yourself without creating terrible conflict
Have the conversation first in private and take the lead while making her reflect on her behavior

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Posted by Lostthoughts
So you run into bullies and don't stick up for yourself or socially and politely check them?

Yes and no
Sometimes as a black woman in corporate America you have to behave differently or you get judged.
Sometimes me resigning IS sticking up for myself.
I’ve gone to HR in the past and have gotten little support.
It’s a balancing act of sorts
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Let me guess, you have a strong presents right?
Strong reactions with people?
You will know this when people shift thier body language and tonality when they are aware of you.

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Posted by Soul
It really makes you think why we have to endure and experience this type of stuff just to continue existing. It's pretty fucked up if you truly think about it. As far as we know we didn't even ask to be here.

Posted by Soul
It really makes you think why we have to endure and experience this type of stuff just to continue existing. It's pretty fucked up if you truly think about it. As far as we know we didn't even ask to be here.

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Posted by Lulufer
Instead of going straight to a complaint, you might get more insight by asking her, “How do you feel about the way we’ve worked together so far?” It shifts the weight onto her to explain herself and allows you to take lead. Prepare for what you want to say.
The fact that she clapped on a professional Zoom call is absolutely disgusting behavior for a manager. And that no one shut it down is insane. I understand why this is on your mind all day. When someone publicly disrespects you like that, its hard to let go and not dwell on it. But this can be a real turning point in learning how to stand up for yourself without creating terrible conflict
Have the conversation first in private and take the lead while making her reflect on her behavior

Too late I filed that mofo.
My own manager has repeatedly asked her what is the issue. She either says she wants this other guy, he’s white, or she’ll say I don’t know who the in’s and outs. I was growing so tired of hearing her complain that called her bluff during a meeting and asked her point blank and what are these mysterious ins and outs she keeps saying I don’t know. Name them, list them.
She gasped and never listed a damn thing.
Only hot air and complaining.
The funny thing is, she has NEVER worked on a project like this whereas I have. I actually have more experience than she does.
She complains that I don’t know this or that meanwhile she doesn’t know this or that. Lol
She gives herself grace and the space to ask questions to get better informed but the minute I ask a question, Issa problem. She doesn’t allow me the same grace she gives herself. Ive even answered the questions that she has asked. Much to her chagrin.
She’s told upper mgmt that I’m not equipped blah blah blah meanwhile she’s out to lunch.
Last week I did a forecast change, it caused her to have to correct the forecast for one of her people.
She wrote this 4 paragraph email to me and my boss about how I had inconvenienced her so badly and how she wasn’t informed in a timely fashion.
Come to find out, she has been holding secret meetings for almost a year with upper management and not telling me or my boss. No one is on the same page and it’s delayed the project.
But I’m the inconvenience.
She’ll learn that the grass is not greener.
Her and whoever listens to her manipulation will learn.
She turned a lot of weak ass people on the project team against me. So much so that it took months just to get her these people to respond to me.
They can all go to hell.
Besides my boss, Not one person on the project team thanked me for my efforts or wished me well. Not one.
The North Remembers

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Posted by Lostthoughts
So you run into bullies and don't stick up for yourself or socially and politely check them?

Yes and no
Sometimes as a black woman in corporate America you have to behave differently or you get judged.
Sometimes me resigning IS sticking up for myself.
I’ve gone to HR in the past and have gotten little support.
It’s a balancing act of sorts

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Posted by Lostthoughts
So you run into bullies and don't stick up for yourself or socially and politely check them?

Yes and no
Sometimes as a black woman in corporate America you have to behave differently or you get judged.
Sometimes me resigning IS sticking up for myself.
I’ve gone to HR in the past and have gotten little support.
It’s a balancing act of sorts
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The best consequence for a bad employer or poor manager is losing the good employee. Nobody gets mad when they lose an incompetent employee, but everyone feels the heat (from manager to HR) when a good functioning employee leaves.
I, myself, leave bad employers/ managers for this reason but also because it gets me my mental peace and gives me 10-20k pay bump in the process. LOL 😆 Anytime I left a bad employer, I made sure I quit at a time that left them high, dry and seething.

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Posted by aquarius09
Not to take over your thread but I’m also dealing with a toxic situation at my workplace that came to my attention last week when I got my raise. My dumb Pisces/sag moon couldn’t make his toxic deed more obvious in the comments he uttered out of guilt. He’s been trying to get me a raise for the last 2 yrs because when I got this job they withheld the full responsibilities the role and as such I wasn’t able to negotiate a proper salary for it. Because he’s self-absorbed and likes to be the center of attention/go-to, he excluded me from attending Legal team meetings. Everyone would attend except me because he didn’t want me on them. He also kept me off the team internal email list for the last two years. I technically have an HR case but I know better than to go to HR because they don’t l do anything but protect the company’s best interests. When he broke the news to me that he again failed to get me a raise, he follows up with “if you want to be angry with anyone, it’s me. Since I want you to succeed, I am giving you more visibility and inviting you to legal team meetings and adding you to the internal mailing list.”
Insecurity and pathetic at its finest. It amazes me why people do stupid and pathetic shitnlike this. I told my friends and colleagues about this and even they are shocked at the unnecessary level of insecurity.

Posted by PhoenixSag
I'll never understand how people can't comprehend kindness is the strongest weapon. Scream at them and they'll scream back at you, set them up for something and they'll set you up for something and so on and so on...but kindness never gets defeated. When you're kind to someone who's been rude to you, you directly disarm them because that's the only thing people don't expect and aren't prepared to react to it. Being confrontation will only get you into more confrontations. How is it worth losing your nerves over people at work?
But, I also get that being kind comes hardest to people, it's always easier to be rude.

Posted by aka_xy
I’ve had psychics tell me that I’m being followed by a devil energy and at this point. I just expect to be treated with callousness when I enter group settings.
What have you done to get that energy out of your life?

Posted by aka_xy
What are there signs?
I have a situation at work as well. When it's a fixed personality, they can't and won't pretend. They'll try to make wrong their right and when losing ground, will try to appeal to everyone. This includes previous colleagues who they went up against. It's pathetic.
The rule goes, do no wrong because the truth is your strongest foundation. Nobody can knock it and you can move freely with the facts and truths. Other people have so many holes to cover.

Posted by aka_xy
I’ve had psychics tell me that I’m being followed by a devil energy and at this point. I just expect to be treated with callousness when I enter group settings.
What have you done to get that energy out of your life?

Posted by DMV

Posted by aka_xy
I’ve had psychics tell me that I’m being followed by a devil energy and at this point. I just expect to be treated with callousness when I enter group settings.
What have you done to get that energy out of your life?

I honestly stay a party of one.
Everything is done solo and I keep groups at a distance.
I no longer go towards people or seek out those kinds of relationships.
Even if I draw people towards me, I make sure they are elevator type interactions. They will not last long.
Everything I do, I do it alone.
It’s been pretty successful up until I get dragged into group work at my job. Hence my current toxic situation.
This goes for family too. My sisters aren’t too fond of me either.

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Posted by aka_xy
What are there signs?
I have a situation at work as well. When it's a fixed personality, they can't and won't pretend. They'll try to make wrong their right and when losing ground, will try to appeal to everyone. This includes previous colleagues who they went up against. It's pathetic.
The rule goes, do no wrong because the truth is your strongest foundation. Nobody can knock it and you can move freely with the facts and truths. Other people have so many holes to cover.

I think the current lady is a Pisces, possibly a Scorpio.
One manager was a Libra, the others have been Virgos

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Posted by aka_xy
I’ve had psychics tell me that I’m being followed by a devil energy and at this point. I just expect to be treated with callousness when I enter group settings.
What have you done to get that energy out of your life?

I did the Fear Not to Walk Over Evil spell kit from LuckyMojo and would like to do it again although I don't think it had any effects other than being calming and inspiring hope. I did a 10 day Limpia egg cleanse with a selenite wand and it literally removed my horrible barometric pressure headaches at least for a few years. Freezer spells work great to remove people who harass you from your life. You could also try changing your name to something more favorable numerologically lol. Uncrossing spells.
Other than that I think we gotta cope, hope it's all in our head, keep trying to be outgoing in the face of rejection and be optimistic.

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Posted by aka_xy
I’ve had psychics tell me that I’m being followed by a devil energy and at this point. I just expect to be treated with callousness when I enter group settings.
What have you done to get that energy out of your life?

I honestly stay a party of one.
Everything is done solo and I keep groups at a distance.
I no longer go towards people or seek out those kinds of relationships.
Even if I draw people towards me, I make sure they are elevator type interactions. They will not last long.
Everything I do, I do it alone.
It’s been pretty successful up until I get dragged into group work at my job. Hence my current toxic situation.
This goes for family too. My sisters aren’t too fond of me either.
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I pray that the energies against you gets cancelled or they find clarity. I wouldn't dish the energy right back as much as it feels good to, I've been there but when it comes down to it which one works best long term.

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Posted by Lostthoughts
So you run into bullies and don't stick up for yourself or socially and politely check them?

Yes and no
Sometimes as a black woman in corporate America you have to behave differently or you get judged.
Sometimes me resigning IS sticking up for myself.
I’ve gone to HR in the past and have gotten little support.
It’s a balancing act of sorts
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Let me guess, you have a strong presents right?
Strong reactions with people?
You will know this when people shift thier body language and tonality when they are aware of you.
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I do and I actually had a life coach point it out to me. Lol
He gave me a strategy on how to enter a room. How to initially engage. How to handle first meetings.
He was 100% right and sometimes I remember the teaching and when I don’t, this happens.

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Posted by Lostthoughts

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Posted by Lostthoughts
So you run into bullies and don't stick up for yourself or socially and politely check them?

Yes and no
Sometimes as a black woman in corporate America you have to behave differently or you get judged.
Sometimes me resigning IS sticking up for myself.
I’ve gone to HR in the past and have gotten little support.
It’s a balancing act of sorts
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Let me guess, you have a strong presents right?
Strong reactions with people?
You will know this when people shift thier body language and tonality when they are aware of you.
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I do and I actually had a life coach point it out to me. Lol
He gave me a strategy on how to enter a room. How to initially engage. How to handle first meetings.
He was 100% right and sometimes I remember the teaching and when I don’t, this happens.

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Posted by aquarius09
Not to take over your thread but I’m also dealing with a toxic situation at my workplace that came to my attention last week when I got my raise. My dumb Pisces/sag moon couldn’t make his toxic deed more obvious in the comments he uttered out of guilt. He’s been trying to get me a raise for the last 2 yrs because when I got this job they withheld the full responsibilities the role and as such I wasn’t able to negotiate a proper salary for it. Because he’s self-absorbed and likes to be the center of attention/go-to, he excluded me from attending Legal team meetings. Everyone would attend except me because he didn’t want me on them. He also kept me off the team internal email list for the last two years. I technically have an HR case but I know better than to go to HR because they don’t l do anything but protect the company’s best interests. When he broke the news to me that he again failed to get me a raise, he follows up with “if you want to be angry with anyone, it’s me. Since I want you to succeed, I am giving you more visibility and inviting you to legal team meetings and adding you to the internal mailing list.”
Insecurity and pathetic at its finest. It amazes me why people do stupid and pathetic shitnlike this. I told my friends and colleagues about this and even they are shocked at the unnecessary level of insecurity.

I’m convinced that these same people were bullied back when they were younger and were isolated from reindeer games.
When they eventually get a bit of power they harm the ones who remind them of who they used to be. Nice, warm. They in turn start to play the same games played on them. Because they think it’s normal to alienate and tell half truths. That’s how the big boys play.
The manager bully is a detriment to a company.

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Posted by Lostthoughts

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Posted by Lostthoughts
So you run into bullies and don't stick up for yourself or socially and politely check them?

Yes and no
Sometimes as a black woman in corporate America you have to behave differently or you get judged.
Sometimes me resigning IS sticking up for myself.
I’ve gone to HR in the past and have gotten little support.
It’s a balancing act of sorts
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Let me guess, you have a strong presents right?
Strong reactions with people?
You will know this when people shift thier body language and tonality when they are aware of you.
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I do and I actually had a life coach point it out to me. Lol
He gave me a strategy on how to enter a room. How to initially engage. How to handle first meetings.
He was 100% right and sometimes I remember the teaching and when I don’t, this happens.
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Ok, well if you got a natural presence, people will pick up on it wether you project and direct it or not. It spiritual terms it's your aura. Those who feel it will react to it based off themselves and the way you make them feel. Got to work on your chrisma and people skills. It's part of the deal.
Great leaders and other high positions use it to lead conversations quell emotions in thier environment and etc.

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Posted by aquarius09
Not to take over your thread but I’m also dealing with a toxic situation at my workplace that came to my attention last week when I got my raise. My dumb Pisces/sag moon couldn’t make his toxic deed more obvious in the comments he uttered out of guilt. He’s been trying to get me a raise for the last 2 yrs because when I got this job they withheld the full responsibilities the role and as such I wasn’t able to negotiate a proper salary for it. Because he’s self-absorbed and likes to be the center of attention/go-to, he excluded me from attending Legal team meetings. Everyone would attend except me because he didn’t want me on them. He also kept me off the team internal email list for the last two years. I technically have an HR case but I know better than to go to HR because they don’t l do anything but protect the company’s best interests. When he broke the news to me that he again failed to get me a raise, he follows up with “if you want to be angry with anyone, it’s me. Since I want you to succeed, I am giving you more visibility and inviting you to legal team meetings and adding you to the internal mailing list.”
Insecurity and pathetic at its finest. It amazes me why people do stupid and pathetic shitnlike this. I told my friends and colleagues about this and even they are shocked at the unnecessary level of insecurity.

I’m convinced that these same people were bullied back when they were younger and were isolated from reindeer games.
When they eventually get a bit of power they harm the ones who remind them of who they used to be. Nice, warm. They in turn start to play the same games played on them. Because they think it’s normal to alienate and tell half truths. That’s how the big boys play.
The manager bully is a detriment to a company.
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It’s always the covert sissies with a strong front who try to bully. It’s just a matter of calling them out and standing up to them and you see them crumble. My boss isn’t a bully but he’s a meek sissy who just sidelined me because he likes to be the go-to. He enjoys people seeking him out. One time a person asked me for direction instead of him, and I directed her to the right contact. My boss was soo upset that she came to me and not him. He whined for a good 7 mins until I said what’s the big deal? It’s not like you were the right contact. I directed her to the right contact the same way you would have.

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Posted by aquarius09
Not to take over your thread but I’m also dealing with a toxic situation at my workplace that came to my attention last week when I got my raise. My dumb Pisces/sag moon couldn’t make his toxic deed more obvious in the comments he uttered out of guilt. He’s been trying to get me a raise for the last 2 yrs because when I got this job they withheld the full responsibilities the role and as such I wasn’t able to negotiate a proper salary for it. Because he’s self-absorbed and likes to be the center of attention/go-to, he excluded me from attending Legal team meetings. Everyone would attend except me because he didn’t want me on them. He also kept me off the team internal email list for the last two years. I technically have an HR case but I know better than to go to HR because they don’t l do anything but protect the company’s best interests. When he broke the news to me that he again failed to get me a raise, he follows up with “if you want to be angry with anyone, it’s me. Since I want you to succeed, I am giving you more visibility and inviting you to legal team meetings and adding you to the internal mailing list.”
Insecurity and pathetic at its finest. It amazes me why people do stupid and pathetic shitnlike this. I told my friends and colleagues about this and even they are shocked at the unnecessary level of insecurity.

I’m convinced that these same people were bullied back when they were younger and were isolated from reindeer games.
When they eventually get a bit of power they harm the ones who remind them of who they used to be. Nice, warm. They in turn start to play the same games played on them. Because they think it’s normal to alienate and tell half truths. That’s how the big boys play.
The manager bully is a detriment to a company.
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It’s always the covert sissies with a strong front who try to bully. It’s just a matter of calling them out and standing up to them and you see them crumble. My boss isn’t a bully but he’s a meek sissy who just sidelined me because he likes to be the go-to. He enjoys people seeking him out. One time a person asked me for direction instead of him, and I directed her to the right contact. My boss was soo upset that she came to me and not him. He whined for a good 7 mins until I said what’s the big deal? It’s not like you were the right contact. I directed her to the right contact the same way you would have.
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Ahh he likes being the subject matter expert.
You’re competition 😁

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Posted by Lostthoughts

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Posted by Lostthoughts
So you run into bullies and don't stick up for yourself or socially and politely check them?

Yes and no
Sometimes as a black woman in corporate America you have to behave differently or you get judged.
Sometimes me resigning IS sticking up for myself.
I’ve gone to HR in the past and have gotten little support.
It’s a balancing act of sorts
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Let me guess, you have a strong presents right?
Strong reactions with people?
You will know this when people shift thier body language and tonality when they are aware of you.
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I do and I actually had a life coach point it out to me. Lol
He gave me a strategy on how to enter a room. How to initially engage. How to handle first meetings.
He was 100% right and sometimes I remember the teaching and when I don’t, this happens.
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Ok, well if you got a natural presence, people will pick up on it wether you project and direct it or not. It spiritual terms it's your aura. Those who feel it will react to it based off themselves and the way you make them feel. Got to work on your chrisma and people skills. It's part of the deal.
Great leaders and other high positions use it to lead conversations quell emotions in thier environment and etc.
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The question is, do I still care to form non superficial relationships.
I’ll be 44 this year and I just don’t think anything beyond respect is needed.
I have no ambition to be a great leader or in a high position.
At the bare minimum I’m just looking for people not to be jerks towards me.
Tbh I’m over trying to win people over.
My mental health is paramount

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Posted by PhoenixSag
I'll never understand how people can't comprehend kindness is the strongest weapon. Scream at them and they'll scream back at you, set them up for something and they'll set you up for something and so on and so on...but kindness never gets defeated. When you're kind to someone who's been rude to you, you directly disarm them because that's the only thing people don't expect and aren't prepared to react to it. Being confrontation will only get you into more confrontations. How is it worth losing your nerves over people at work?
But, I also get that being kind comes hardest to people, it's always easier to be rude.

I wonder what would happen if I groped the person back but like in a menacing way. Fawning definitely doesn't help in that situation

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Posted by PhoenixSag
I'll never understand how people can't comprehend kindness is the strongest weapon. Scream at them and they'll scream back at you, set them up for something and they'll set you up for something and so on and so on...but kindness never gets defeated. When you're kind to someone who's been rude to you, you directly disarm them because that's the only thing people don't expect and aren't prepared to react to it. Being confrontation will only get you into more confrontations. How is it worth losing your nerves over people at work?
But, I also get that being kind comes hardest to people, it's always easier to be rude.

I wonder what would happen if I groped the person back but like in a menacing way. Fawning definitely doesn't help in that situation
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Um...not talking about sexual harresments here. That is out of question in regards to acceptable behaviors...talking about reaponding to rudeness. Idk where y'all work to get into such situations but where I come from in regards to work field, sexual harrasment is something waaaaay out of question to ever happen.

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Posted by PhoenixSag

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Posted by PhoenixSag
I'll never understand how people can't comprehend kindness is the strongest weapon. Scream at them and they'll scream back at you, set them up for something and they'll set you up for something and so on and so on...but kindness never gets defeated. When you're kind to someone who's been rude to you, you directly disarm them because that's the only thing people don't expect and aren't prepared to react to it. Being confrontation will only get you into more confrontations. How is it worth losing your nerves over people at work?
But, I also get that being kind comes hardest to people, it's always easier to be rude.

I wonder what would happen if I groped the person back but like in a menacing way. Fawning definitely doesn't help in that situation
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Um...not talking about sexual harresments here. That is out of question in regards to acceptable behaviors...talking about reaponding to rudeness. Idk where y'all work to get into such situations but where I come from in regards to work field, sexual harrasment is something waaaaay out of question to ever happen.
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I work in manufacturing with felons (I'm not one). Besides groping, I had a different felon in my last position put Viagra in my mailbox and he told his gf he was gonna fuck me so she popped my bike tire. That was the best part of getting fired from there. The entertainment industry is another example of a place where sexual harassment has shown to run rampant (I'd bet modeling too). People do it to those who they bet won't stand up for themselves or those with bad reputations who wouldn't be believed

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Posted by MidAtBest

Posted by PhoenixSag

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Posted by PhoenixSag
I'll never understand how people can't comprehend kindness is the strongest weapon. Scream at them and they'll scream back at you, set them up for something and they'll set you up for something and so on and so on...but kindness never gets defeated. When you're kind to someone who's been rude to you, you directly disarm them because that's the only thing people don't expect and aren't prepared to react to it. Being confrontation will only get you into more confrontations. How is it worth losing your nerves over people at work?
But, I also get that being kind comes hardest to people, it's always easier to be rude.

I wonder what would happen if I groped the person back but like in a menacing way. Fawning definitely doesn't help in that situation
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Um...not talking about sexual harresments here. That is out of question in regards to acceptable behaviors...talking about reaponding to rudeness. Idk where y'all work to get into such situations but where I come from in regards to work field, sexual harrasment is something waaaaay out of question to ever happen.
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I work in manufacturing with felons (I'm not one). Besides groping, I had a different felon in my last position put Viagra in my mailbox and he told his gf he was gonna fuck me so she popped my bike tire. That was the best part of getting fired from there. The entertainment industry is another example of a place where sexual harassment has shown to run rampant (I'd bet modeling too). People do it to those who they bet won't stand up for themselves or those with bad reputations who wouldn't be believed
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Yup it does run rampant in the entertainment.
I’m convinced there’s a swinger community at my job

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Posted by DMV
Just a bit of backstory…
I work for a company that I don’t find pleasant to work at.
It’s not the work, it’s the people.
I admit, I have had issues at every corporate job I’ve ever had.
I’ve been pushed out of jobs by jealous bosses and it has kept me quite stagnated.
At my current employer, I filed a complaint against my former manager because I truly believe he had a thing for me and I wasn’t interested. He made a pass at me one day and I ignored it completely. He would even retaliate against me. One year, he humbled me and requested I fill out his Christmas cards as he wanted to go to lunch. I’m not his secretary. I’ve felt low before but that was indeed a low point in my tenure there. I’ve never forgotten how that moment made me feel. Very less then.

Through the grace of God, I was transferred to another dept and he couldn’t find the transfer.
Little did I know he would follow me to my new area. I filed a complaint as I wanted to nip this in the bud early. As I shook his hand, he took his other hand and touched the small of my back. I was especially creeped out.
I was excited about this change till this devil energy continued to follow me in the form of a new person.
The Pisces woman is an absolute nightmare to work with. I am not alone in my sentiment about her. Others have told me about their own run ins with her. But I said Hell, I don’t want to miss out on this opportunity to learn more and I stuck it out. She has lied to my manager about me, she has gossiped about me around the office. It’s a lot. I’ve told my boss in writing that her behavior is harassment.
She hated me from the very start. It gave me the impression of “you don’t belong here.”
It’s been almost 2 years with putting up with her.
Now I’m being transferred again to a bigger project and I informed her and others on a zoom call that I would be transitioning off the project.
This woman clapped.
I was pretty shocked and embarrassed by her reaction/behavior. She is a manager herself.
I made my way through the meeting not giving her a ounce of satisfaction.
Unfortunately it’s been on my mind all day.
I’m thinking of lodging a formal complaint.
On one hand, I have just gone with the flow time and time again just not to rock the boat. I’ve let awful managers push me outta jobs. I’ve never fought back.
Now, I feel like fighting back.

Posted by Walk_on_by
Get a job where there is shit to get done so people don't have time to fuck around with petty things.

Posted by Astrobyn
I have 25 years in corporate American and I can tell you this.
HR only exist to protect the Company. (full stop, no exceptions)
You can file a complaint, but if you do so against someone who the company perceives has more value to the company than you do, you will lose, unless the other person or compliant is to perceived to be a bigger liability then their perceived value.
Whatever solution they propose, will be for the companies best interest. I've learned this lesson the hard way more than once.
Also that clapping lady has plausible deniability for any wrong doing "I was clapping in celebration of her new project"

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I'll never understand how people can't comprehend kindness is the strongest weapon. Scream at them and they'll scream back at you, set them up for something and they'll set you up for something and so on and so on...but kindness never gets defeated. When you're kind to someone who's been rude to you, you directly disarm them because that's the only thing people don't expect and aren't prepared to react to it. Being confrontation will only get you into more confrontations. How is it worth losing your nerves over people at work?
But, I also get that being kind comes hardest to people, it's always easier to be rude.

I wonder what would happen if I groped the person back but like in a menacing way. Fawning definitely doesn't help in that situation
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Um...not talking about sexual harresments here. That is out of question in regards to acceptable behaviors...talking about reaponding to rudeness. Idk where y'all work to get into such situations but where I come from in regards to work field, sexual harrasment is something waaaaay out of question to ever happen.
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I work in manufacturing with felons (I'm not one). Besides groping, I had a different felon in my last position put Viagra in my mailbox and he told his gf he was gonna fuck me so she popped my bike tire. That was the best part of getting fired from there. The entertainment industry is another example of a place where sexual harassment has shown to run rampant (I'd bet modeling too). People do it to those who they bet won't stand up for themselves or those with bad reputations who wouldn't be believed
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Yup it does run rampant in the entertainment.
I’m convinced there’s a swinger community at my job
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It kills me how you'll overhead the social group talking amongst each other about onlyfans, fetishes and hoes but they talk to you about church and their grandkids
You're a Scorpio moon and not sag moon, right? I think part of my social experience is bc my sag moon seems confrontational by accident & masculine in an uncool way or it's my leo ASC square Pluto

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