Saggies...how do you love?

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Do you live it? How do you express your love for people? Please share your experiences.
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It's funny because I am a caring person but don't really show a lot of emotions. I have no problems with telling my emotions with words but I don't touch a lot. I don't like mushy behavior, it makes me uncomfortable. I think I can only keep boyfriends and such because I am really good with my words and attention that I pay to them. All of this is without me showing the typical women style of loving. I'm really nonchalant like a guy.
I don't express my love for people at all, I'm kind of a loner in that regard. Sometimes I think I have issues because I am so happy and content with my extremely small circle of friends I have let in. I wish I could extend the circle but I don't do well with talking on the phone and gossiping. It takes too much energy for me, so the friends that have stuck around are usually the ones who are fine with always making contact with me and they know I will listen to what they have to say and not pass any judgements.
Sometimes I can be a complete asshole, especially when I need me time and can veg out and watch TV all day while ignoring everyone. Then when I get a call the next day, I pretend I was super busy so no ones feelings get hurt. I will spend time with people in person though but just not when I have to make the plans.
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Posted by saggurl88
It's funny because I am a caring person but don't really show a lot of emotions. I have no problems with telling my emotions with words but I don't touch a lot. I don't like mushy behavior, it makes me uncomfortable. I think I can only keep boyfriends and such because I am really good with my words and attention that I pay to them. All of this is without me showing the typical women style of loving. I'm really nonchalant like a guy.
I don't express my love for people at all, I'm kind of a loner in that regard. Sometimes I think I have issues because I am so happy and content with my extremely small circle of friends I have let in. I wish I could extend the circle but I don't do well with talking on the phone and gossiping. It takes too much energy for me, so the friends that have stuck around are usually the ones who are fine with always making contact with me and they know I will listen to what they have to say and not pass any judgements.
Sometimes I can be a complete asshole, especially when I need me time and can veg out and watch TV all day while ignoring everyone. Then when I get a call the next day, I pretend I was super busy so no ones feelings get hurt. I will spend time with people in person though but just not when I have to make the plans.

you sound like my sag....wow
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Posted by cancerboo
you sound like my sag....wow


Well if it makes you feel better one of my closest friends is a cancer smile I do like affection given to me I just don't reciprocate well. Most guys enjoy it though because they have freedom and space. The ones who don't enjoy it are the ones that are needy, possessive and dramatic. I end up being the guy in the relationship and they end up getting dumped and being heartbroken. Sometimes I feel bad but then I think they should "man up" and stop acting like biotchess!! lol. (this sounds so funny but so rude!) O_0
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i swarm the other person. takes a lil time to heat up the oven but after a while im all gung ho. im spitting out i love yous all over the place. where's my wallet? cause it just pours and fuck an overdraft (i remember suketh saying that on Sass lol)
i stalk and/or monitor, i read about them, i stare at their pictures for seems like hours, i talk to their friends, i find out all their favorite things. i read and reread texts and re re read texts. i go on facebook and even though im not friends with them, i will still search their pages, their friend pages, their friends' friend pages. i stare at pictures trying to find meaning in ANYTHING. i connect pictures, places, people etc. if i see a girl i dont have a good feeling about, i file her away in a special folder.

i let it consume me. what i got going on really doesnt matter, only they matter. f'n mars in virgo...im just there for them in anyway. its all about them.
in a way, i subtly control everything. it may not seem like i am really vested because hugging/touching really aint my thing, but your life is my world.
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I don't do well with talking on the phone and gossiping. It takes too much energy for me, so the friends that have stuck around are usually the ones who are fine with always making contact with me and they know I will listen to what they have to say and not pass any judgements.
+1
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Sometimes I can be a complete asshole, especially when I need me time and can veg out and watch TV all day while ignoring everyone. Then when I get a call the next day, I pretend I was super busy so no ones feelings get hurt.
hahahaha, seriously..this is golden right here.
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Posted by saggurl88
Posted by cancerboo
you sound like my sag....wow


Well if it makes you feel better one of my closest friends is a cancer smile I do like affection given to me I just don't reciprocate well. Most guys enjoy it though because they have freedom and space. The ones who don't enjoy it are the ones that are needy, possessive and dramatic. I end up being the guy in the relationship and they end up getting dumped and being heartbroken. Sometimes I feel bad but then I think they should "man up" and stop acting like biotchess!! lol. (this sounds so funny but so rude!) O_0
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you havent met the once who switches the cards around on you Winking
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Posted by DMV

you haven't met the ones who switches the cards around on you Winking


I usually go for guys that are confident, secure, and sweet. I will dismiss someone who acts like a butt-hole. I do some of the things you mentioned though. When I like a guy I hit up astrology sites and go crazy trying to see how well we connect. I also reread text messages, plan out whole conversations (even what he will say lol) and look at his social media to try and follow his day quietly. I won't question him about it or anything, even if he lies about something in the midst of telling me what he did that day. I will just file that away and see how often he lies about stuff. I am like a secret investigator that knows everything but will tell you nothing! Winking
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Posted by saggurl88
Posted by DMV

you haven't met the ones who switches the cards around on you Winking


plan out whole conversations (even what he will say lol) and look at his social media to try and follow his day quietly. I won't question him about it or anything, even if he lies about something in the midst of telling me what he did that day. I will just file that away and see how often he lies about stuff. I am like a secret investigator that knows everything but will tell you nothing! Winking

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i knew i wasnt the only one who monitors smile. i enjoy it. it isnt work to me.
good call about not calling liars out immediately..got to give them time to make a turnaround. it may be that they only lie about certain things. un huh.
its soo wierd. its like the second i am interested in someone, their file is officially opened. lol
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Fearlessly, unconditionally
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Posted by beautifulsoul74
Do you live it? How do you express your love for people? Please share your experiences.


Either too fucking much, or too little.
I get the feeling that I really don't know what I'm supposed to be doing. Actually...I know that i don't know what I'm doing. Fuck it
Mom and Dad and the cat know how I feel, at least.
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Sagittarians are delightful to those they love.
Posted by Wynter
Mom and Dad and the cat know how I feel, at least.



And they're very witty. Wickedly so. I love that. ^ Winking

But they're sneaky. Sneaky is passive-aggressive for PUSHY.

And no. Just because we "should know" what you are thinking, or what we should be doing (for you), doesn't mean we do.

If we did, we might consider actually doing it.

I'm just mad at you, right now, Satittarius (Gemini Moon), even though you KNOW you secretly and self-righteously think you're innocent.

That is all.

*Disclaimer: I love Sagittarians-- a lot. Big Grin

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My goal is to unconditionally. I know I have with friends. Lovers, eh honestly I don't know if I have ever REALLY loved someone in that sense yet.
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Posted by cheekyfaerie
Posted by DMV
i swarm the other person. takes a lil time to heat up the oven but after a while im all gung ho. im spitting out i love yous all over the place. where's my wallet? cause it just pours and fuck an overdraft (i remember suketh saying that on Sass lol)
i stalk and/or monitor, i read about them, i stare at their pictures for seems like hours, i talk to their friends, i find out all their favorite things. i read and reread texts and re re read texts. i go on facebook and even though im not friends with them, i will still search their pages, their friend pages, their friends' friend pages. i stare at pictures trying to find meaning in ANYTHING. i connect pictures, places, people etc. if i see a girl i dont have a good feeling about, i file her away in a special folder.

i let it consume me. what i got going on really doesnt matter, only they matter. f'n mars in virgo...im just there for them in anyway. its all about them.
in a way, i subtly control everything. it may not seem like i am really vested because hugging/touching really aint my thing, but your life is my world.


Is that Sag tho?
I ask cause this sounds alot like me and I'm a Cap, but share your moon and Mars.
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hey where ya been smile

its tough and depends on synastry.. usually my saggi parts are not involved in my romantic life.
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i do not love unconditionally. definitely not.
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Posted by cheekyfaerie
Posted by DMV
i do not love unconditionally. definitely not.


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Unconditional means no accountability. There's always accountability.
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always. you just cant do shit and expect to be loved. fuck that shit.
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Posted by DMV
Posted by cheekyfaerie
Posted by DMV
i do not love unconditionally. definitely not.


+1
Unconditional means no accountability. There's always accountability.
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always. you just cant do shit and expect to be loved. fuck that shit.

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+1 Yup, you will get dropped like a bad habbit!
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you guys must view love as an emotion
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Posted by Sag89
you guys must view love as an emotion


interesting...an emotion and part duty on my part?
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Posted by DMV
i swarm the other person. takes a lil time to heat up the oven but after a while im all gung ho. im spitting out i love yous all over the place. where's my wallet? cause it just pours and fuck an overdraft (i remember suketh saying that on Sass lol)
i stalk and/or monitor, i read about them, i stare at their pictures for seems like hours, i talk to their friends, i find out all their favorite things. i read and reread texts and re re read texts. i go on facebook and even though im not friends with them, i will still search their pages, their friend pages, their friends' friend pages. i stare at pictures trying to find meaning in ANYTHING. i connect pictures, places, people etc. if i see a girl i dont have a good feeling about, i file her away in a special folder.

i let it consume me. what i got going on really doesnt matter, only they matter. f'n mars in virgo...im just there for them in anyway. its all about them.
in a way, i subtly control everything. it may not seem like i am really vested because hugging/touching really aint my thing, but your life is my world.


Wow! that sounds like I love and I'm a libra.. The only thing differently is that i'm super affectionate and touchy feely
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I don't think love is an emotion I think it's much deeper than that.
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I'm going to speak my mind as I've had a lot on it concerning love and what I see. I believe that love is the ultimate form of unity. When you truly love someone, there is no doubt, there is no fear, there is no ego or selfishness. Some describe this as being naive but is it really? Love is the ultimate form of peace.
It saddens me to see things the way they are. Narcissism and childishness run amuck. The whole notion that some connection is needed to have love is foolish. Why? Because all that does is put another boundary and an obstacle on something that is at its best when it flows freely. Its not a sign of evolvement and It only points to just simple animal attraction. Nothing more. But yet people still continue to say this is the way and expect different results. They have no patience. The strongest and most lasting pairings have been the ones where there was no connection but the relationship was built with love as the foundation. Friendship to lovers. The connection thing is simply a microwave dinner. Fast and hot but goes cold quickly. You eat it fast but you're left hungry. A fulfilling meal is one where you work it with your hands and takes time. Put the sacrifice in.
I trust everyone fully because I love. Living this way allows you to be free. Free to express and free to give. Why let someone's transgressions restrict your love and take away your freedom? Spending all that time worrying about what they're doing or I things are too comfortable. It makes no sense. When you do that you're not loving. You're fearing. Love and fear cannot coexist and should never. If someone mistreats you, your free to leave because you love yourself. It doesn't mean you love them any less as you are simply letting them self determine and live how they see fit. It only means they don't know how to love.
Love is not painful nor should it be. There is no beauty in pain or tragedy. But yet our society teaches that great relationships are this. I believe t most beautiful relationships are ones with peace. The "boring" and drama-less ones. Fir they display love at its fullness. Peace, trust, honor, depth, strength, courage, sacrifice, etc. You inspire each other and that should be the source of your passion. Because that person chooses to give to you you should be great full and humble. That door swings both ways. Humility and sacrifice.
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At Intrigued Scorp:
You're coming from the angle that love means understanding. That is a sublet of love but doesn't comprise the whole. I've also seen people who have nothing in common get together and have a beautiful relationship and that's what I was essentially saying. What is the common theme in failing relationships? Not focusing on the love between them. That they built despite they're differences. Its like forgetting the fundamentals. I know a ton of people with college degrees who can't do long division in math. Why? Because they stopped practicing. If you stop practicing to fundamentals of love, you forget how to do it. Thus, you'll wake up 20 years and ask who is this person. People stop loving who they're with because they keep wondering about the what ifs or what could've been. Instead of looking at the gift of children and cherishing the person that shared in that gift with you. People get so focused on duty and responsibility that they forget to love.
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Posted by Sutekh
Agree, unconditional love means no accountability.

Unconditional love means indifference, which is the opposite of caring IMO.


Lets look realistically in what you're saying. By holding someone "accountable" you're forcing your will and views upon them without the full knowledge of who they are as human being and not having the full spiritual truth or authority to do so. You have free will and so do they. I find out more about someone when I approach them in a non accusatory manner than holding them accountable and starting an argument. When someone does something wrong, they know it. There are plenty of people who do stuff just to see what they can get away with. Which points to their character and demonstrates immaturity. But the overriding principle is we're all imperfect. So holding someone "accountable" is really demonstrating your weakness because you make it more about your version if justice and not actual justice or truth. Karma takes care of that. Its okay to teach and raise an issue in the face of wrongdoing, but you need to pick your battles and remove your ego. That way, you are also free to learn.
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Posted by IntriguedScorp
Good points beautiful soul.


Thank you, but I'm just giving us something to think about smile you're points are well taken.
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Posted by cheekyfaerie
Astrologically speaking, I've noticed recently that most of my relationships (from serious/LTR to hang and bangs) have been chock full of Venus/Pluto aspects.
Not the current one, tho.
Anyway, I always equated the magnet/addiction/weight with love. The problem with those is they can turn dark. Especially with Scorp dominant people.
So, yeah... I'm hoping now that I've identified that, I can proceed trying to find more meaningful connections. Personal ones like you mention, beautiful.



Hey Cheeky!
I've started that too. I think it helps you to broaden your horizons. You don't know where that special someone will come from, so why cut off the ways they can reach you?
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Posted by IntriguedScorp

These are people who have lived it saying these things. Choosing a lifemate is an important decision and entails many different considerations.
Stuff to consider. smile


agree agree
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Posted by Sutekh
Because Im not going to accept disrespect, or abuse etc.


exactly
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Posted by cheekyfaerie
Astrologically speaking, I've noticed recently that most of my relationships (from serious/LTR to hang and bangs) have been chock full of Venus/Pluto aspects.
Not the current one, tho.
Anyway, I always equated the magnet/addiction/weight with love. The problem with those is they can turn dark. Especially with Scorp dominant people.
So, yeah... I'm hoping now that I've identified that, I can proceed trying to find more meaningful connections. Personal ones like you mention, beautiful.



earth venus have been substantial relationships.
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Posted by Sutekh
Because Im not going to accept disrespect, or abuse etc.


Understood but disrespect is subjective. We do have a penchant for being blunt and not caring for the "sensitivities" of others even in the case where we're saying fine thing because we care. It's still disrespect. As for cheating or cussing out, I don't put up with that.
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Posted by Sutekh
Because Im not going to accept disrespect, or abuse etc.


Understood but disrespect is subjective. We do have a penchant for being blunt and not caring for the "sensitivities" of others even in the case where we're saying fine thing because we care. It's still disrespect. As for cheating or cussing out, I don't put up with that.
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Posted by DMV
i swarm the other person. takes a lil time to heat up the oven but after a while im all gung ho. im spitting out i love yous all over the place. where's my wallet? cause it just pours and fuck an overdraft (i remember suketh saying that on Sass lol)
i stalk and/or monitor, i read about them, i stare at their pictures for seems like hours, i talk to their friends, i find out all their favorite things. i read and reread texts and re re read texts. i go on facebook and even though im not friends with them, i will still search their pages, their friend pages, their friends' friend pages. i stare at pictures trying to find meaning in ANYTHING. i connect pictures, places, people etc. if i see a girl i dont have a good feeling about, i file her away in a special folder.

i let it consume me. what i got going on really doesnt matter, only they matter. f'n mars in virgo...im just there for them in anyway. its all about them.
in a way, i subtly control everything. it may not seem like i am really vested because hugging/touching really aint my thing, but your life is my world.


i guess there is some venus in cap up in there
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What do you mean by cussing out? You'd break up with someone of they shouted profanities at you? People my age do that for fun, I guess it's just because of the younger generation. Lol..
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Posted by Ligeia
WOW you can clearly see some people's Venus placements
truly at work when it comes to defining how you love.
Beautifulsoul74 such a Sag-Venus Tongue


What do ya mean by that pray/tell Tongue
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Posted by Ligeia
Posted by beautifulsoul74
Posted by Ligeia
WOW you can clearly see some people's Venus placements
truly at work when it comes to defining how you love.
Beautifulsoul74 such a Sag-Venus Tongue


What do ya mean by that pray/tell Tongue


Just that your idea of love and how you love is
so hippie, utopian and very transpersonal. And
Sagalicious and totally not how this Venus Scorpio
operates lol. I went into a bit more detail in the
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Lmao this has been a source for much consternation in my previous relationships. It's very difficult to find someone who is peaceful. It seems that all my relationships have consisted of them wanting to continue a battle with their exes or men in general with me. I'm 38 and simply am tired of fighting.
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Posted by DMV
i swarm the other person. takes a lil time to heat up the oven but after a while im all gung ho. im spitting out i love yous all over the place. where's my wallet? cause it just pours and fuck an overdraft (i remember suketh saying that on Sass lol)
i stalk and/or monitor, i read about them, i stare at their pictures for seems like hours, i talk to their friends, i find out all their favorite things. i read and reread texts and re re read texts. i go on facebook and even though im not friends with them, i will still search their pages, their friend pages, their friends' friend pages. i stare at pictures trying to find meaning in ANYTHING. i connect pictures, places, people etc. if i see a girl i dont have a good feeling about, i file her away in a special folder.

i let it consume me. what i got going on really doesnt matter, only they matter. f'n mars in virgo...im just there for them in anyway. its all about them.
in a way, i subtly control everything. it may not seem like i am really vested because hugging/touching really aint my thing, but your life is my world.


If this is how Sag loves, then so be it, am guilty... Lol! Moon and mars in Sag, Virgo sun Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
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Posted by AriesIntrovert16
What do you mean by cussing out? You'd break up with someone of they shouted profanities at you? People my age do that for fun, I guess it's just because of the younger generation. Lol..


i think there's a difference in cussing someone out and totally going ape shit. like if a guy went apre shit on me in public or did tried to address some shit in public.
splitsville
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Posted by static
Posted by DMV

i stalk and/or monitor, i read about them, i stare at their pictures for seems like hours, i talk to their friends, i find out all their favorite things. i read and reread texts and re re read texts. i go on facebook and even though im not friends with them, i will still search their pages, their friend pages, their friends' friend pages. i stare at pictures trying to find meaning in ANYTHING. i connect pictures, places, people etc. if i see a girl i dont have a good feeling about, i file her away in a special folder.
i let it consume me. what i got going on really doesnt matter, only they matter. f'n mars in virgo...im just there for them in anyway. its all about them.
in a way, i subtly control everything. it may not seem like i am really vested because hugging/touching really aint my thing, but your life is my world.


DMV! You just took all of my secrets, cracked them out of my skull and bared it all out on the table. Holy shit.
You know what the scariest thing about a Venus in Cap is? We are fucking devoted to you, mad about you, craving for you but will take it to our graves. Obsession is a pitiful understatement.

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it takes a while to get there, but im so into my partner is crazy. my needs just dont matter, only his.
ive heard form other venus cappys, that they feel the same way. what degree is your venus, if you mind me asking?
ive learned that taking those good feelings to the grave and not giving your partner a chance to hear them is suicide. we have got to learn how to not be scared of rejection.
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Posted by virgosagscorpio
Posted by DMV
i swarm the other person. takes a lil time to heat up the oven but after a while im all gung ho. im spitting out i love yous all over the place. where's my wallet? cause it just pours and fuck an overdraft (i remember suketh saying that on Sass lol)
i stalk and/or monitor, i read about them, i stare at their pictures for seems like hours, i talk to their friends, i find out all their favorite things. i read and reread texts and re re read texts. i go on facebook and even though im not friends with them, i will still search their pages, their friend pages, their friends' friend pages. i stare at pictures trying to find meaning in ANYTHING. i connect pictures, places, people etc. if i see a girl i dont have a good feeling about, i file her away in a special folder.

i let it consume me. what i got going on really doesnt matter, only they matter. f'n mars in virgo...im just there for them in anyway. its all about them.
in a way, i subtly control everything. it may not seem like i am really vested because hugging/touching really aint my thing, but your life is my world.


If this is how Sag loves, then so be it, am guilty... Lol! Moon and mars in Sag, Virgo sun Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
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smile
and im always planning what to do next. i love to spoil the people i care about, (venus cap in the 7th). i def spoil my mate. everyday i will have a gift for you. it will always be something you either said you like, wanted, or saw. i pay close attention to what comes out their mouths.
this one guy, i brought him a whole outfit and he was amazed i knew his size. i just waited for him to go to sleep and sneaked out of bed to get all his sizes.
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@Ligeia:
Its hard to tell because you have to get to "know" someone despite and esp you get about them. So, I just take an unassuming approach. I don't look at "what I want or deserve" because you eliminate a lot of good people that way. Is the ole Sag adaptability. Lol
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DMV you're my kind of girl
And you sound very similar to a Sadge I dated that had
a Venus Capricorn as well
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Posted by static
Venus in Cap 10?? in the 8th house
I have Neptune conjunct Venus at 3 orbs, as well as Venus conjunct Uranus at 1.39 orbs. Idealism and romanticism, instability and delusions.
"ive learned that taking those good feelings to the grave and not giving your partner a chance to hear them is suicide. we have got to learn how to not be scared of rejection."
I believe this. Unfortunately my experiences thus far have been impossible love scenarios. It was better to have not said anything, and still felt everything. One day though... hahaha!


It was better to have not said anything, and still felt everything.
i dig this
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i have it at 19, others close in orbit to mine felt the same way
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Posted by beautifulsoul74
Fearlessly, unconditionally


this is me too.
I'm not a half-ass person at anything. I put my all into everything I do....in love/relationships it's no exception.
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Posted by beautifulsoul74

I trust everyone fully because I love. Living this way allows you to be free. Free to express and free to give. Why let someone's transgressions restrict your love and take away your freedom? Spending all that time worrying about what they're doing or I things are too comfortable. It makes no sense. When you do that you're not loving. You're fearing. Love and fear cannot coexist and should never. If someone mistreats you, your free to leave because you love yourself. It doesn't mean you love them any less as you are simply letting them self determine and live how they see fit. It only means they don't know how to love.


♥ sometimes when you post you say exactly what I want to say but could never express so eloquently
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Posted by Ligeia
Ok another approach lol. What draws you to a woman
generally? If you were put in a room of 50 or so
women. Not knowing a think about them other than
what they are "aesthetically advertising". What
then says your "love radar"?


A woman who attracts me stands out from the crowd. Not by dress or how she looks. But by how she acts...speaks...carries herself. She has confidence through humility. She doesn't look to...fit in.
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Posted by beautifulsoul74

I trust everyone fully because I love. Living this way allows you to be free. Free to express and free to give. Why let someone's transgressions restrict your love and take away your freedom? Spending all that time worrying about what they're doing or I things are too comfortable. It makes no sense. When you do that you're not loving. You're fearing. Love and fear cannot coexist and should never. If someone mistreats you, your free to leave because you love yourself. It doesn't mean you love them any less as you are simply letting them self determine and live how they see fit. It only means they don't know how to love.


??? sometimes when you post you say exactly what I want to say but could never express so eloquently
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Thank you for your kind words Bri smile. Its just a matter of calming your mind. But try thing about us is we don't have to say the words...we just do it smile
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Posted by brianafay
Posted by beautifulsoul74
Fearlessly, unconditionally


this is me too.
I'm not a half-ass person at anything. I put my all into everything I do....in love/relationships it's no exception.

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That's the only way to be smile
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Posted by Montgomery
Sagittarians are delightful to those they love.
Posted by Wynter
Mom and Dad and the cat know how I feel, at least.



And they're very witty. Wickedly so. I love that. ^ Winking

But they're sneaky. Sneaky is passive-aggressive for PUSHY.

And no. Just because we "should know" what you are thinking, or what we should be doing (for you), doesn't mean we do.

If we did, we might consider actually doing it.

I'm just mad at you, right now, Satittarius (Gemini Moon), even though you KNOW you secretly and self-righteously think you're innocent.

That is all.

*Disclaimer: I love Sagittarians-- a lot. Big Grin


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Gasp!!
I'm mad at Saggitarius (Gemini Moon) too. ugh~
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