Another Scorpio Man!

This topic was created in the Scorpio forum by immaculate virgoan on Tuesday, December 18, 2012 and has 32 replies.
Scorpios are coming through my life thick and fast. This is long but can you tell me what this scorp is about?
I spent the weekend with a ScorpioI have been chatting to for a few weeks. It was fun and a little confusing.
Over the weekend he was mostly caring, considerate and we had a great rapport. We had a tricky moment though.
Early the first evening, we were making out, and then he went a bit icy in the love department.
At bedtime he indicated that he wanted me to sleep in his bed and I was a bit unsure so went and had a shower and thought I'd see what happened. When I got there he ignored the fact I was there. I went to the spare room and after half an hour or so he came looking for me and asked what was wrong. I told him it felt weird and uncomfortable being in his bed under the circumstances and said I couldn't even tell if he liked me or not. He laughed at me and said that was silly and he wanted to sleep beside me. We didn't have sex and he only told me the next day how sick he'd been - he was getting over the flu.
We had a great day the next day and later in the afternoon he said he wanted to talk to me about something serious. He told me that he really likes me and he wants to spend time getting to know me better and I ticked so many boxes for him - there was just one problem and it wasn't me.
He had split with a long term girlfriend 6 months previously and she wanted him back. He said there was no way he was going back though he had a lot of respect for her. But us making out had made him feel guilty about what he'd done to her and some of the loose ends that were still hanging - like family members who still wanted them to get back together.

He told me he wants two weeks to sort that over Christmas and to get his head around the idea of moving on.I questioned whether he was relationship ready or not and he insists he is, he wants a relationship, he just never thought it could potentially happen so soon.
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He is into martial arts and mind controlling techniques involved with that so it sounds like he just wants to logically process it.
I met his friends, some of who are likely to ring the ex up and tell her he was with me and he was quite happy with how that went. He didn't mind that she would know but felt guilty because apparently she is doing it hard.
Is this guy on the level? I really like him. He is quite abrupt and not overly romantic but couldn't do enough to make me feel at ease wherever we went. And I liked the way that he didn't let my concerns go, he thought them through and dealt with them.
It'll be interesting to see what happens next. And he's asked for a couple of weeks to sort this - so do I give him total space or do I just stay in the background?
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I am Virgo sun, scorpio asc, Gemini moon, Virgo Venus
He is Scorpio sun, Aqua moon, Scorpio Venus, not sure of his asc
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I'd stay away..its like you're a pawn to make the ex jealous. Once he's succeeded in doing so, he may get back together with her, leaving you waiting and wondering. NO one gets over an ex in 2 weeks..ESPECIALLY fixed signs..its going to take a while.
I don't do games on both sides of the fence. But at the end of the day its your choice.
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ROFLMAO....the oldest trick in the book!!! Bahahahahahahha....women still fall for this....
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That kinda back fired then incandescent because we didn't have sex...
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No, you wouldn't have sex immediately with this trick if you're angling for a mistress on the side. The moment he said that he just broke up with his girlfriend and he still needs time the game had begun.....it's not you, it's me ....lololololololol
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Considering that you're thinking so much about him it's working....I don't understand when people will gain sufficient rationality to realize that you don't start anything with a person who isn't completely mentally available.
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For starters, he broke up with her six months ago. Secondly I haven't started anything with him. I am just trying to get my head around what just happened. Thanks for your input. It was enlightening and I appreciate hearing your take on the situation.
What I don't appreciate is smart arse inference that I am a sucker.
Like I said though... Thanks. My eyes are now open.
One thing though... How could he be setting me up as a "mistress" when he clearly does not have a woman? Or am I understanding mistress in a different light to how you are meaning it?
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He is not playing games. Come on, people!
Even if someone becomes an EX, it doesn't mean a Scorpio condemns the ex. We will try our best and hardest to make things work. We will try over and over again. For a scorpio, as a general rule, if it is over, folks... it is over!
Virgoan, give him some time. Do not bring up the ex. Do not come to any negative conclusion. He seems genuinely interested in you and Virgo & Scorpio is a good match.
He wants to know you better, means, he wants to know you better. Follow your intuition on this. Don't get side-tracked.
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Posted by immaculate virgoanFor starters, he broke up with her six months ago. Secondly I haven't started anything with him. I am just trying to get my head around what just happened. Thanks for your input. It was enlightening and I appreciate hearing your take on the situation.


How long was he in a relationship with her before that? He isn't done with her hence the reference to her even now. He is most definitely not mentally available.
Posted by immaculate virgoan
What I don't appreciate is smart arse inference that I am a sucker.


I don't really care, I wasn't the one who came here singing how scorpio men abound in my life ....tralalalala...
Posted by immaculate virgoan
One thing though... How could he be setting me up as a "mistress" when he clearly does not have a woman? Or am I understanding mistress in a different light to how you are meaning it?
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Because he will get back with her at some point (if that isn't already the case)and he will keep doing you on the side. He will regal you with wonderful stories about how it's all you and she no longer means anything to him. I just need some more time honey.....lol!
At best you're an instrument to make his ex jealous, at worst you're a bit of somethin' somethin' on the side.
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I want all the men here to lineup and tell me how many of them talk about an ex from six months ago to a new girl they met and seriously like?
I can answer honestly that I wouldn't do something like that, I would only answer questions that I am asked about former relationships.
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Posted by MellyMel
Posted by immaculate virgoan
I am Virgo sun, scorpio asc, Gemini moon, Virgo Venus
He is Scorpio sun, Aqua moon, Scorpio Venus, not sure of his asc


After reading your story, and looking at his chart.. you might be dating my ex..
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So, you are stuck on a man who broke up with you 6 months ago?
You probably need to check that.
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Posted by immaculate virgoan
Thanks for your input. It was enlightening and I appreciate hearing your take on the situation.
What I don't appreciate is smart arse inference that I am a sucker.





You have to understand a couple things here ... first, if you are going to stand in front of hundreds of people and lay your shit bare, while asking the viewpoint of these very strangers, then you better be prepared to hear their view, even if you don't agree. If you can't handle hearing someone elses viewpoint, then stfu and leave.
Second, and this takes a bit of logic, if you think you might be able to muster some, people who are jaded from a bad experience are going to represent that. If you can't comprehend that, and so only can comprehend what you appreciate, as if other people have an obligation to pacify your expectancy .. then you aren't even ready for mankind, much less a relationship.

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Posted by immaculate virgoan
.... can you tell me what this scorp is about?




You just told us what he is about.
Nothing mysterious ... why does reasoning escape you?
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Posted by FUM
He is not playing games. Come on, people!
Even if someone becomes an EX, it doesn't mean a Scorpio condemns the ex. We will try our best and hardest to make things work. We will try over and over again. For a scorpio, as a general rule, if it is over, folks... it is over!
Virgoan, give him some time. Do not bring up the ex. Do not come to any negative conclusion. He seems genuinely interested in you and Virgo & Scorpio is a good match.
He wants to know you better, means, he wants to know you better. Follow your intuition on this. Don't get side-tracked.



Thanks Fum. I want to take him at face vale. I have no reason not to. Not everyone sits around crossing the t's and dotting the i's and saying "That's it. All done. Now I'm ready for a relationship." Actually this guy thought he'd done that but there was still one more thing. God knows if this eventuates there will be a few small things I'll have to change in my own life to be ready.
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Posted by incandescentcancer
Posted by immaculate virgoanFor starters, he broke up with her six months ago. Secondly I haven't started anything with him. I am just trying to get my head around what just happened. Thanks for your input. It was enlightening and I appreciate hearing your take on the situation.


How long was he in a relationship with her before that? He isn't done with her hence the reference to her even now. He is most definitely not mentally available.
Posted by immaculate virgoan
What I don't appreciate is smart arse inference that I am a sucker.


I don't really care, I wasn't the one who came here singing how scorpio men abound in my life ....tralalalala...
Posted by immaculate virgoan
One thing though... How could he be setting me up as a "mistress" when he clearly does not have a woman? Or am I understanding mistress in a different light to how you are meaning it?


Because he will get back with her at some point (if that isn't already the case)and he will keep doing you on the side. He will regal you with wonderful stories about how it's all you and she no longer means anything to him. I just need some more time honey.....lol!
At best you're an instrument to make his ex jealous, at worst you're a bit of somethin' somethin' on the side.
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He was with her for 6 years. They lived together and had life plans. That kind of things takes a little getting out of. And being a significant whack of your history you cant just stop talking about a past partner without talking about the things that shape you. I talk about my ex-husband. We did so much together, it's hard not to. And the only way to not mention a significant past relationship is to shut down a significant part of who you are.
The difference is if the talk is obsessive and that's what I'm interested in assessing.
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Posted by NovemberSun
He was honest with you PRIOR to sex. In my book, that's a GOOD thing. Means he was not just thinking about himself.
This gives you, as the woman, the opportunity to decide what YOU want during this time.
If he is still hung up on another woman, let him figure it out. Give him total space. Go and do your own thing. I wouldn't pour myself into someone who is still hung up on someone else. I'm sure you know this, but you deserve better.
This doesn't make him the bad guy. He was honest and that shows character. He's in conflict. Let him come to his own conclusions/closure on his own.
Take this time for yourself to decide how much you are willing to give.


Thanks November. I want to take some time and decide what I think. He was honest with me. I admire that. He didn't have to be.
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Posted by P-Angel
Posted by MellyMel
Posted by immaculate virgoan
I am Virgo sun, scorpio asc, Gemini moon, Virgo Venus
He is Scorpio sun, Aqua moon, Scorpio Venus, not sure of his asc


After reading your story, and looking at his chart.. you might be dating my ex..



So, you are stuck on a man who broke up with you 6 months ago?
You probably need to check that.
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PA I was waiting for you to chime in. Sometimes I like your posts and sometimes they make me cringe. This one made me laugh and laugh!
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Posted by P-Angel
Posted by immaculate virgoan
Thanks for your input. It was enlightening and I appreciate hearing your take on the situation.
What I don't appreciate is smart arse inference that I am a sucker.





You have to understand a couple things here ... first, if you are going to stand in front of hundreds of people and lay your shit bare, while asking the viewpoint of these very strangers, then you better be prepared to hear their view, even if you don't agree. If you can't handle hearing someone elses viewpoint, then stfu and leave.
Second, and this takes a bit of logic, if you think you might be able to muster some, people who are jaded from a bad experience are going to represent that. If you can't comprehend that, and so only can comprehend what you appreciate, as if other people have an obligation to pacify your expectancy .. then you aren't even ready for mankind, much less a relationship.


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This was more what I was expecting. Just as I am able to express appreciation at some comments, I am also allowed to express that I don't appreciate other. You cant tell me to STFU if I say I don't appreciate something. I'm not you and I make my own judgement on what I appreciate. I don't want my expectancies pacified but I also do not have to bend to every person who is jaded from their own sad experiences.
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Posted by P-Angel
Posted by immaculate virgoan
.... can you tell me what this scorp is about?




You just told us what he is about.
Nothing mysterious ... why does reasoning escape you?
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I'm a Virgo - reasoning rarely escapes me. You should know that.
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Excellent, everyone who sees this differently is jaded and has sad experiences, inescapable logic of course.
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Posted by MellyMel
Posted by immaculate virgoan
Scorpios are coming through my life thick and fast. This is long but can you tell me what this scorp is about?
He had split with a long term girlfriend 6 months previously and she wanted him back. He said there was no way he was going back though he had a lot of respect for her. But us making out had made him feel guilty about what he'd done to her and some of the loose ends that were still hanging - like family members who still wanted them to get back together.

He told me he wants two weeks to sort that over Christmas and to get his head around the idea of moving on.I questioned whether he was relationship ready or not and he insists he is, he wants a relationship, he just never thought it could potentially happen so soon.



Also, what did he do to her that he felt guilty about? That might merit some exploring. Did he feel guilty just for breaking up with her? Guilt is not a feeling most people I know would associate with break-ups unless there were other factors present. I.E. the way he broke up with her, his actions/words towards her leading up to the break-up, his actions/words towards her after they broke up..? Just some food for thought.
And yes, my responses might be jaded by my recent personal history, so take them with a grain of salt.
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Hey Melly, thanks for your jaded response WinkingHe felt guilty mainly because they had a life plan together and he shattered her dreams by splitting up with her. The reason was no big deal really, it was to do with the behaviour of her teenage son. A conflict of parenting style s and her siding with the son against the Scorpio when a difference came up.
He seems to have been generous to her in the split, giving her a very large amount of cash and a personal project they had completed together and I'm not sure of the finer details. But...he is the one that kept the intact life style (home etc) having said that, he had all that together long before they met.
I think its mostly that she is suffering so badly that causes him to feel guilty - very severe depression and a general reluctance to move on.
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Posted by immaculate virgoan
He was with her for 6 years. They lived together and had life plans. That kind of things takes a little getting out of. And being a significant whack of your history you cant just stop talking about a past partner without talking about the things that shape you. I talk about my ex-husband. We did so much together, it's hard not to. And the only way to not mention a significant past relationship is to shut down a significant part of who you are.
The difference is if the talk is obsessive and that's what I'm interested in assessing.


LOL...why are you telling me all this as if I am child who is incapable of grasping brutally obvious facts. You should read your own post carefully and analyze where this is going instead of getting uptight about me being blunt. Here let me spell this out for you so that maybe you can grasp it, HE IS NOT OVER HER....
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http://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/virgo/Have-you-ever-felt-like-this-3553825.asp
...there are 7 billion stories out there and so many things beyond..this lifetime is not enough...
incandescent...why waste your time on this? Why not go find another story? Another person to harrass?
Do I have to agree with your every obnoxious statement in order for you to accept me? Can you not give your opinion and let me do with it what I want? Do you really think I can't look at all the information and advice you guys have given me and make a decision based on my own feelings?

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Posted by immaculate virgoan
incandescent...why waste your time on this? Why not go find another story? Another person to harrass?



That's the only intelligent thing you said on this thread so I am going to take that advice and not waste further time.
Everyone else including me stated opinions, you're the only one who made an "obnoxious judgement" when you called people in disagreement with you sad and jaded. Quite frankly, I don't give a fuck.
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Posted by immaculate virgoan
Posted by P-Angel
Posted by immaculate virgoan
Thanks for your input. It was enlightening and I appreciate hearing your take on the situation.
What I don't appreciate is smart arse inference that I am a sucker.





You have to understand a couple things here ... first, if you are going to stand in front of hundreds of people and lay your shit bare, while asking the viewpoint of these very strangers, then you better be prepared to hear their view, even if you don't agree. If you can't handle hearing someone elses viewpoint, then stfu and leave.
Second, and this takes a bit of logic, if you think you might be able to muster some, people who are jaded from a bad experience are going to represent that. If you can't comprehend that, and so only can comprehend what you appreciate, as if other people have an obligation to pacify your expectancy .. then you aren't even ready for mankind, much less a relationship.




This was more what I was expecting. Just as I am able to express appreciation at some comments, I am also allowed to express that I don't appreciate other. You cant tell me to STFU if I say I don't appreciate something. I'm not you and I make my own judgement on what I appreciate. I don't want my expectancies pacified but I also do not have to bend to every person who is jaded from their own sad experiences.
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incandescent if you look at above you will see that it was PA who mentioned people becoming jaded. My use of the term was in reference to her comment.
But you are very welcome to read into it what you will.
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Something doesn't sound right to me. I can get that he is trying to wrap his head around his feelings about his ex, but him putting it out there the way that he did and then needing time....doesn't sit well with me. I mean which was it? Was he giving you the cold shoulder that night because he was getting over the flu or his ex--sounds like excuses to me.
Then you add:
"He had split with a long term girlfriend 6 months previously and she wanted him back. He said there was no way he was going back though he had a lot of respect for her. But us making out had made him feel guilty about what he'd done to her and some of the loose ends that were still hanging - like family members who still wanted them to get back together."
This sounds like a lot of nonsense to me. Okay, so she wants him back. And?! I find it interesting that he conveniently left what *he* wants out of this conversation. Does he want her back? I'm also not buying the "making out makes me feel guilty" either. Why feel guilty over an ex that you have no plans on going back with? What loose ends is he referring to? And as for the family wanting them to get back together--Pfff! I don't know any Scorp (but they may be out there) that let's other people dictates who they will be with. So again, I'm not buying it. It's about what he's NOT saying that you need to be leery of. His communication with you is incomplete for a reason, he's hiding something. I'm not saying he's a douche, ass, etc. I'm just saying he's hiding *something*, and more than likely, it's his true feelings about this situation.
In either case, someone hit it on the head--he's not mentally available for whatever reason. And when someone is mentally available, no amount of time, beautiful days spent together will change that. I personally wouldn't get too attached or involved with this one IMHO.
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Posted by FUM
... For a scorpio, as a general rule, if it is over, folks... it is over!




+1 Exactly, so what's with the wishy-washy-lingering-decision making that needs to take place?
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Posted by NovemberSun
He was honest with you PRIOR to sex. In my book, that's a GOOD thing. Means he was not just thinking about himself.
This gives you, as the woman, the opportunity to decide what YOU want during this time.
If he is still hung up on another woman, let him figure it out. Give him total space. Go and do your own thing. I wouldn't pour myself into someone who is still hung up on someone else. I'm sure you know this, but you deserve better.
This doesn't make him the bad guy. He was honest and that shows character. He's in conflict. Let him come to his own conclusions/closure on his own.
Take this time for yourself to decide how much you are willing to give.


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Posted by PhoenixRising
Something doesn't sound right to me. I can get that he is trying to wrap his head around his feelings about his ex, but him putting it out there the way that he did and then needing time....doesn't sit well with me. I mean which was it? Was he giving you the cold shoulder that night because he was getting over the flu or his ex--sounds like excuses to me.
Then you add:
"He had split with a long term girlfriend 6 months previously and she wanted him back. He said there was no way he was going back though he had a lot of respect for her. But us making out had made him feel guilty about what he'd done to her and some of the loose ends that were still hanging - like family members who still wanted them to get back together."
This sounds like a lot of nonsense to me. Okay, so she wants him back. And?! I find it interesting that he conveniently left what *he* wants out of this conversation. Does he want her back? I'm also not buying the "making out makes me feel guilty" either. Why feel guilty over an ex that you have no plans on going back with? What loose ends is he referring to? And as for the family wanting them to get back together--Pfff! I don't know any Scorp (but they may be out there) that let's other people dictates who they will be with. So again, I'm not buying it. It's about what he's NOT saying that you need to be leery of. His communication with you is incomplete for a reason, he's hiding something. I'm not saying he's a douche, ass, etc. I'm just saying he's hiding *something*, and more than likely, it's his true feelings about this situation.
In either case, someone hit it on the head--he's not mentally available for whatever reason. And when someone is mentally available, no amount of time, beautiful days spent together will change that. I personally wouldn't get too attached or involved with this one IMHO.


^^^*not mentally available...
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You know what ... nevermind.

You aren't capable of getting it.
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