Could a Scorpio woman....

This topic was created in the Scorpio forum by JayDee33 on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 and has 19 replies.
.....once she matured and overcame the downfalls of her extremes,come back and give a Pisces man who she really liked a proper chance.
If he deserves one. You have to think deeply into it, male pisces seem so sweet though right?
Even though we've had many fall outs even since we are back talking 'as friends',months go by and eventually she calls back.
I think Ive calmly accepted that there is only a very slight possibility of us hooking up properly ever.
When I was with her before,she was constantly changing her mind and really confusing and frustrating me.And I was being patient with her.She was heart-set on getting away out of the rut she created.In the end,she brought in 'I dont think I could ever make you happy' and then eventually 'Im just not interested'.Even though it looks like denial on my part,I always felt these were diversions from the truth but then again I could have dreamed the whole thing Ill admitt.I can never be 100% sure.
I met other girls,Im sure she met many other guys in the meantime but nothing really seems to take the place in my heart for her.Sad and down it makes me feel.I know I cant tell her how I feel,cos it would be too much,too soon.She d be overwhelmed(shes never really commited to anyone,fears that it will hinder her freedom).And Scorpios need a mystery,and I can give just that.Scorpios remind me of Pisces in a sense,like a Pisces who cant forgive and cant accept forgiveness.
@LovelyScorp...but what about this bit?...

In the end,she brought in 'I dont think I could ever make you happy' and then eventually 'Im just not interested'.Even though it looks like denial on my part,I always felt these were diversions from the truth but then again I could have dreamed the whole thing Ill admitt.I can never be 100% sure.

Was she denying her feelings and maybe hurting herself,maybe putting me on pause in the sense that she knew that I can see deep behind words aswell.And really she just needed an indefinite amount of time to take her life back in control?
jaydee
i can't know how passionate your relationship with your Scorp was let alone the dynamics of it, however, just judging from my own doings... and this may come across as 'confusing', if I really like the person, but I don't feel that sexual chemistry, then I may be in dilemma myself. It is hard to tell a person that you dearly like, you are physically not attracted to him. This may explain her 'changing mind'. She wasn't changing her mind, she wanted to love you, but couldn't bring herself.
Please bear in mind, JD, i cannot know... am just speculating.
If she brought herself to telling you that she is not interested in you, she probably thought long enough to find ways of how to tell you this. If she doesn't reply to you quite soon, it means she still is not interested in you. I can understand that she even fears of hurting your feelings again. Perhaps there are certain expectations she has from you that she probably keeps repeating to you, and perhaps you do not HEAR them...?

However, if you stay clear to friendship boundaries, she may come around more often.
it's easier as a stranger to give you this advice but still... even me as a stranger, i wouldn't want to hurt your feelings because Fish men have been always dear to me, they are such beautiful 'children' with tremendous loads of ideas and well-intended... smile
Hey thanks so much for your previous responces.Finally I dont feel so alone with these insights and theories I have on this situation.But I still wont get my hopes up,all I can do is take it easy and not expect anything at all until we are more comfortable as friends.And maybe thats all there is meant to be.But wooah!...its took so much from my emotional peace over the years,wouldnt it be nearly to good to be true that she'd come back and really give love this time?
Some people mite say here 'hey,youre living in the past','let go of it','it wasn't meant to be','all that hurt for nothing'.'..she was playing you for a fool'
And yeah,they could be right.
But I just cant help it,I cannot forget,it just wont stop.
To Redfairy,
Yes,I have considered this,what you said about physical attraction and sexual chemistry.I thought the problem was that there was trust issues between us,but now maybe she was using that as an excuse to hide her real reasons for wanting to end it.Its like yes there was many circumstantial obstacles one after another but maybe the real reason is that Im just not her physical ideal partner.Im not the big Alpha-male type at all, but I mite have a masculine temperment or heart.I dont have a small weener but I dont have a strikingly big one either.I wouldnt be suprised if that was the base reason why all this didnt work out before.I could become more and more aesthetically pleasing to the eye and touch,if I directed my focus and energy to it.Bulkier.Carved.etc.etc.
But I dont want to be judged on that.I dont want affections because I could look all that,yet I can see how it can matter to a womans sense of security.
Mmm,what you say does make sense.It could actually be the final reason and the eventual closing of the case.Cock.
i feel repeating this again:
*Perhaps there are certain expectations she has/had from you that she probably keeps repeating to you, and perhaps you do not HEAR them...?*
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i also used to believe past is past and getting back with some old flame -- which i NEVER would have given a second chance in the past -- i realized that the feelings you once had for someone, CAN be re-ignited. I have been giving returning lovers a second chance for the past year. In one incidence, i wanted it to continue, but HE... as he did at our initial time, chose to 'opt out'. Not in a very clear way. The first time he cheated, and I ended. The second time... i don't know.. he just didn't respond anymore. I think i hurt him by not giving him my full trust. We never argued.
So far, if it hasn't worked the first time around, it doesn't seem to work the next time around either. Although I did some modifications on myself. I was less expecting, etc.
You may get a second run, JD. I believe she matured and overcame the downfalls. Aren't we in base the same person in the end, always falling back to basics? What ticked us then, seems to tick us still...
I hope for you both that you find that compromise to stay together in your matured ages. LOVE, indeed requires work.
Best wises.
What kind of expectations could they be....Im thinking.They could be health and life style issues.Health and life style are very important to her,and indeed there much I could do away with and I could become healthier and stronger.
Could that be the deciding factor?
Or if we take it deeper,it really comes down to c o c k
no no no no... JD Big Grin
wrong derivative when you say Cock. lol.
Sexual attraction to me is nowhere close to the looks. It starts in the mind and then your body just tells you. I was attracted to very different looking men, be it from tall to short, thin to quite overweight, or small to really huge dicks. That never was factor. Whatever comes with the package, gets attractive with YOU only... whoever you are that my heart/cells desire... it tells me by making me shy, smiling, shivering, wanting more, wanting to touch you, and so on... then if you have a super hairy chest (not preferred for me) or whatever you come with, it will become exciting to me.
just plain chemistry... no way of explaining but your body tells you. And sometimes, it can give you a totally wrong message and you may get mixed up with someone, you already know is not good for you in the long run. Either in social standards is not your peer and will bring you down, or you know there is no future with him, or you instinctively know he will never choose you as long-term partner...and so on. I guess that goes into infatuation category. But to sum it up... one needs that spark.
Unless he has a billion dollars, and the spark is money Winking but but but... this billionaire has to want the Scorpion woman and she HAS to be the ONLY one in his heart and house. We don't like being part of a harem.
anyway, don't be hard on yourself DJ. Perhaps things will work out differently over time. Sometimes best friends turn into lovers and sometimes not...

Yes. I know a lot of Scorpio female/ Pisces male combo's and they all seem very happy. I think its more of the Pisces male being evolved enough to handle the bond the Scorpio is trying to give.
oh..when i repeated myself about the hearing. Watch for what makes her displeased and when she gives you a specific/particular reason. Not something that is summed up. For example, when she said,
*I don't think I could ever make you happy* is the summary.
You have to find out what annoyed her about you.
We (as a Scorpio) like our independence. We like our mind. We like our decisions. We like how we look...
However, as much as we are SURE about these things, we also need YOUR assurance. (this is just an example)
So when you put us down (even unknowingly), and perhaps all too often, this makes us feel bad about ourselves.
I was friends with this Pisces man who constantly told the woman he utterly was in love with (to a pisces woman, on/off relation), that she needed to read this book to enhance herself. He kept on repeating her the same thing. She in return, was so annoyed, that she gave him chances, but then ended up leaving. In the end, she totally broke it off.
He had found this particular area in her, that he wanted to HELP her change. (he used to say the same thing... i want to *help* her...). I used to tell him, even if she wants to find out about that area of hers, you CANNOT make her help her by insisting, you make it sound serious. She needs to ASK for your help. It was some spiritual issue that he wanted her to see... and she just wanted to be left alone.
anyhow.. this is only an example. You will need to find out for yourself what it was that made her think 'could never make you happy' about her.
Well I did annoy her,but it was usually something that she would do first that would kick it off.It was all complicated but it shouldnt have been.I need a bit of re-assurance too.She seemed to be more comfortable talkin to my friends and then when they leave,its like she didnt want to be there.I felt like I was been played or being tested or being observed for faults.Whatever it was it was makin me uncomfortable too and I didnt know how to approach it.Could she realise that's what it is really was?And that it could b different.
Im once again mystified by it all.I feel I could go with Lovelyscorps view or Redfairys view.
[She wanted time to heal herself and put it on pause,hurt herself,hide her true feelings] vs. [She was realizing that the chemistry wasnt right for her]
I cant be sure...oh I got the stinger a few times of course.The latter view is winning I think for now.
Yeah,now I remember her saying we werent a good match too.Somehow I dont believe that.But it must be her truth.But what was then is not what is now...
Yeah,I can imagine that.I think a Pisces man is very receptive to moods of other people,if you cant figure him out and decide to go all queit(Oh Ive been on the end of that one)on him then he mite not understand what the problem exactly is but he will be very aware that something is up and that can make him frustrated on the inside because he ll be speculating what the problem is and he mite attack his own self-esteeem with all the possible outcomes.Im kind of relating to my own experiences.Gently open communication on these issues,dont play games would be my best advice if you want it.My own theory on this would be that he could start morphing into a Scorpio and return the game-play to you ha ha.I know that sounds wack,its just that I read that somewhere about the Pisces being able emotionaly project themselves into other signs.The Chameleon,the Actor.With hindsight I think Ive done that a few times.Im guessing things will get worse if he dont guess it right and it wont be nice for you and him at all.A horrible Stingray fish ha ha ha.
...and once past all the doubts,emotional confusion..Id say it's a divine experience,finally celebrating and enjoying it rather than worrying about it...ah..I can only dream!...:-)
Well,its been a long day thinking about the different responces I got here ,all of which I do appreciate.My closing thoughts on this are:
1.I will be her friend.I too found myself getting involved with girls in the past which really were friendships and were meant to be no more.
2.I will not express my feelings to her unless she shows geniune interest and reconsideration.That can be a mystery to her,just like she is a mystery to me.There mite come a right time for it,maybe not,maybe never but I wont be the one to bring it up.I am not waiting either. :-)
3.Maybe Ill give that lovely Cancer girl a try.Maybe she ll be the 'better' I deserve!Ha ha ha
Thanks LovelyScorp and aPisces Princess.aPisces Princess,I can relate to what you are going through with the Scorpio bloke.It's like the same thing but the genders reversed.The only theory I can really come up with is not to get caught in their game,their way of acting and thinking.And that is hard being an emotionally receptive Piscean.I was getting caught up in it before,mirroring them,playing with them,confusing them even more.I think the key to it mite lay in knowing and understanding the differences between the both signs.We can both speculate what it is the differences are.
Yeah,behind the trust issues which come to the foreground which are displayed by heavy silences etc.,other passions and new desires could quite well be becoming manifest.The next conquest.So,yes,an upper-hand while you are caught guessing what their feelings and inclinations are for you...yes...but there is more!..
You seem to have alot more insight on this scenario than I did back then.God bless you.



*Perhaps there are certain expectations she has/had from you that she probably keeps repeating to you, and perhaps you do not HEAR them...?*
Im thinking hard on this one..I cant find anything that seems to fit it.She does ask am I seeing other girls.I never really give a straight answer to that question.I somehow divert the conversation at that point.It could be that she wants to feel happy that I mite have found happiness with someone else or that she wants to feel jealous,if you know what I mean.Im not a sad idiot wasting my time always longing for her,I cant help thinking about her but I do give other girls a try to.Its just that none of them seem to interest me enough.