Determined Scorpio...

Why is that once a scorpio has a goal... they are so determined to achieve that goal and will stop at nothing to obtain it? Especially when it comes to love... well at least for me anyways... I was with a pisces for 2 years and he left me for another girl... but I am so determined to get him back.. it's like nothing else matters in my life right now except getting him back, I have always been that way, once I want something... it consumes me... and I will do anything to get it... and I have always achieved my goals in the past... but a part of me knows that I won't get him back... a part of me knows that I am better off without him.. but there is this drive... that has me determined to get him back at all costs... and I know it's wrong.. and I know I should just move on and let go... but I can't. I've talked to many different people and the majority of them telling me that I can't get him back, a part of me listens, and another part of me takes that almost as a challenge and I become even more determined to get him back... something's obviously wrong with me... I can't come to terms with the fact that my ex doesn't want me anymore... not even when he tells me or anyone else... what the hell is wrong with me? Why can't I just let him go?

Naturally you will be driven by love or desire towards a destiny that could go either way. Personally I think the "mini-deaths" we experience are a necessity for growth or transformation. If it goes bad, the above applies. If it goes well, you've dodged an unpleasant rebirth. Maybe someone here will convince you to change your mind, maybe they won't. Maybe you should follow your heart. All I know is, there could come a vivid day when everything you've ever experienced will converge and you will find that everything that happens, happens for a reason. Everything you've ever experienced will be responsible for bringing you to that exact point or person that will make it all better. Have a little faith and optimism and the journey will be all that more pleasant for you. Until then, pack well for it with these words and a smile.

WaterPhoenix you are so smart and full of wisdom... 🙂. Well... my head tells me to let go of my ex and move on... but my heart keeps telling me not to give up... my head thinks my heart is foolish and my heart is broken... but I just can't give up no matter what anyone says to me to just move on and I know that even if I wasn't with him I would still be happy... but my heart just won't let it go...

I have become my own worst enemy... but I do want his heart mind and soul back... and it would be gratifying to know that I have him back... but as for the lust I would have to say no just because... well just because. I realize now that I have lost him how much he truly means to me, and how much I really did love him, and how much I love everything about him. It is a constant struggle between my head and my heart... but my heart keeps winning hands down... I am trying to maintain myself... I know that it will take time and that I won't always feel this way... but I do want him back... even though most have said that he has swam away for good...

I don't mean it in a controling sense... and maybe you are right.. maybe I am bordering on obsession with him.... but have you ever felt so strongly about someone or something that you just know deep down in your heart that it's meant to be? Have you ever felt like something bad had to happen in order for something better to take place? I feel like that about him... in whole heart I truly believe that we are meant to be together... I have never been so sure of anything in my life... I can feel it in my bones so to speak... I feel that this break up had to happen in order for us both to grow and learn from our previous mistakes... and I feel like have/am learning from those mistakes and becoming a better person because of it, I also feel that he needed to grow and learn from this too... I do not know if he has yet.. or if he ever will... his heart is with someone else now... but I do know... more then I know that the sky is blue or that the grass is green that I am meant to be with him... but I don't know if he will ever come back to me... if things don't work out with this new girl... he will just pine over her... wanting her back... I don't think he will ever give me a second thought again.. and that hurts so much... so why in my heart do I feel so absolute that we are meant to be together... when my head is telling me that he will never return to me...

but have you ever felt so strongly about someone or something that you just know deep down in your heart that it's meant to be?

We have all felt like this at one point in time in our lives. But sometimes you really have to let things GO! If it is meant to be an opportunity will present itself where you can take it and run with it.

You need to relax and you are not bordering on obsession your are obsessing! I identify with it very well. You cannot force the hand and laws of this world. If you keep behaving the way you are you are gonna either wind up hating him because he is loving someone new or him hating you because you refuse to let go.

Don't do it to yourself...just take a step back and re-evaluate.

Agreed that she will hang on to it, but I have a little more faith in that she could easily transform what she's hanging onto into something that will benefit her. It seems to be a common understanding that Scorpios are fixed in some way, but I don't think people realize how much transformation of perception goes into being that 'right', stubborn, or blind all the time. A little conscious effort can go a long way towards transforming these darker moments into something useful (at the very least, experience and wisdom).

That's easier said then done... and I know the fact that he is my first love and everything else and the fact that I'm 20 supposedly has a lot to do with it... but I don't want this to be the end between us... I don't want to let go of him.. I love him and I want to be with him... I know that in a few months time I probably won't feel this way.. but I do feel this way now... and Karima you are right... if it is meant to be then an oppurtunity will present itself... but I have trouble putting my faith in anything... everything I have ever wanted I have always had to make it happen for myself... nothing has ever been handed to me in life... and I don't think I can just sit back to wait and see what happens... I've always worked for everything I have wanted... and I'm trying... but for the first time it's not working... and it makes me want to try even harder... and I keep falling harder and harder... but I can't stop... I'm just crazy now...

Scorpio702 .. you asked me last night for the cold hard truth and I side-stepped it to protect your feelings, but, this has been going on long enough and it's time to wake up. If you still want the truth, no matter how harsh .. I'll give it to you.

I know the truth and I can't accept it.... I just can't accept the fact that he's not coming back... and I can't accept the fact that I need to let go and move on... I realize that what I am doing right now is only pushing him even further away... I know that he has stopped caring for me as his heart belongs to someone else now... but I can't accept it... the ugly truth is that yes... I have become obsessed over him... and that no matter what anyone tells me... I am still going to try to get him back... even though a part of me knows that I will never succeed... a part of me just won't give up... I can see perfectly well what everyone says is right... but there is a bigger part of me that won't accept it.... and I've just gone mad like everyone said...

Yes, first love and everything else... and I can't let it go... I'm just being selfish because I want him all to myself... and I know that's wrong.. .and that I should just forget about him and move on with my life... but I can't... I think I need professional help because there is something seriously wrong with me... why can I see that everyone is right but not take their advice.... I do need help...

No wonder he left me for another... I really don't blame him... just look at me...

"I know he has stopped caring for me"


It's worse than that S702

I know.. he hates me...

"I realize that what I'm doing right is only pushing him further away"

It's even worse than that ..

"he hates me"

It's even worse than that ..

there is nothing worse then hate....

hate is worse then contempt, jealousy, rage, and everything else negative combined...

"there is nothing worse then hate...."

Have you ever seen Spice World The Movie?

Hate means that he will never want to speak to me ever again... just the mere thought of me angers him... and he never wants to see me again.. and he is angry with me for everythign that I put him through... so he hates me... how could it be worse then that,,,

I disgust him in every way possible....

Two fish swimming in opposite directions means that if we have swam away from you for another person ..

.. you don't even exist .. you were never born

Though all your intense determination and tenacity is admirable .. it's for nothing.

If a Pisces is swimming aimlessly, bored, floundering, scattered .. there's a possibility that we will wander back one day .. however, if we swam away to embrace another person ..

.. we won't even remember your name

Sorry to be so cruel, but this has been going on for days and somebody needs to tell you the truth .. unless someone mentions your name, or a bill comes in .. you don't exist to even hate.

I don't see how it could be worse then that... and if is then just shoot me now...

Anger, hate, disgust ..

.. a person has to be alive to have those emotions.

How can you hate someone who doesn't exist?

but how can you just forget about someone.... how can you just... stop... I don't believe that P-Angel.... you can't be with someone for so long and just forget about them... I don't care if your a pisces or not...

How can someone just not feel anything for a person anymore... I don't believe it.. that's not true...

He's gone .. I've done it numerous times, all Pisces has ..

.. if we find another to embrace our hearts .. you're not even history, for it never took place.

I do exist... I existed in his life for a long time... you can't just pretened that someone is dead.... it doesn't work like that... I don't believe that he's that heartless...

I'm sorry, and I've tried to be as kind and gentle as I could, but, the time has come that you have to face this .. you HAVE to let go.

but I don't think she has embraced his heart... I think that she will just break his...

You can't be engaged to someone... almost have a kid by them... they just don't exist anymore.... I don't believe that...

Then everything I have done and tried has all been for nothing... and no matter what I do or say... he will never come back to me... because I never even existed to him.... I guess I have no choice but to let go...

Because I am trying to hold onto nothing... there's nothing... there's no hope for me... there is just hurt and pain... and that's all there is...

There IS hope, in a life without him. Probably one you can't imagine, but will come as a pleasant surprise. I have faith that any battles you lose are losses for the better. You're progressing through these phases pretty fast S702, I'm proud of you. Hang in there.

there is not point in anything... you care about something and it only hurts you... there is not point in trying... it only gets you hurt more.. I have no faith in anything... look what having faith gets you..

DB!!!!!!!! Hit the nail on the head!

Listen to that married man! Great Job buddy!

Good Advice, DB ..

Well... I have never been one of much faith... everything that I have ever wanted... I have gone after it... I didn't sit around and wait to see what would happen.. I took action and made it happen... and I'm trying to do that now... but none of my actions are working. Everyone keeps telling me to have faith and things will work out for the best... that's not typically how I function... when I want something... I make it happen... and I'm trying so hard to make this happen... and it seems that the harder I try... the further away my goal becomes... I know that I must sit back and be patient and work on me... and maybe he will come around and maybe he won't... it's not that I am completely faithless... but I am losing faith... I am trying to believe that someday we will be together again... but there's a part of me that says it's not going to happen... I have never been conflicted like this in my life...

"when I want something... I make it happen... and I'm trying so hard to make this happen... and it seems that the harder I try... the further away my goal becomes"


There's nothing wrong with working hard to achieve a goal .. don't stop working at making things happen, just make sure you're working towards an obtainable goal.

I've never had an un-obtainable goal before... I guess the first step in reaching my goal is getting back to the old me.. indepedent self confident.... that's the first step.. and I can only hope that he will notice once I do become the old me again.. and from there if he does.. then I try to establish a friend ship with him... because even if I can't be with him in the end... I would like to be his friend.. because we weren't just BF/GF.. we were best friends too... and I don't want to lose my best friend forever...

I think that's a reasonable goal that I should be able to obtain over time... or is that even stretching it too far?

It's not too far or close .. it's mis-guided.

The first step is to say a sentence, or have a thought even, that isn't focused around him.

It's not too far or close .. it's mis-guided.

- It couldn't hurt to try to just be friends again after a few months...

I am working on going back to school and taking some computer programming courses... that has no focus on John...

"I am working on going back to school and taking some computer programming courses"

That's great, S702 .. can't go wrong with that.
What is your aim? What kind of computer courses?

I don't know yet exactly... right now I have to learn all of the functions of computer programs like M Excel... and then I will be going into learning Access... and I will learn to create a program similar to excel using Access.. easier said then done...

I was doing Graphic design for a while.. I even created an entire logo for a company... but I wanted to delve into something deeper... I'm good with computers so I figure you should stick to things your good at..

Maybe take a couple business courses, like in economics, along with it would open up more doors to you .. the more you know, the job opportunities will be available.

Why not go back into graphic design? Many, many people desire to have those skills, you're already one step up on a lot of others.

Why would you want someone who left you second best to another—

I would want him back for one reason..to kill him. Thats it really.

"I would want him back for one reason..to kill him. Thats it really."


I don't know about that, mm .. torture sounds much more desirable 😛

I mean damn, it's even worse than that .. the SOB kicked her out onto the streets, without any warning .. instant death just seems too nice.