Posted by tiki33
Hopefully you haven't had sex with him (sorry for implying that you did). Cut your losses if he's not responding to you in a positive consistent way then there is no reason to continue.
Posted by seraph
Is this about that stupid crab again?
Posted by allielee
You know I've wondered about the same thing. Why is it that we still have medieval perception of sex when it comes to females? I mean I enjoy sex just as much as men do (when it's good!), if I want, I'll go for it. And I don't think I'm in any shape or form easy or cheap for it. I dislike games and dragging the guy through months of misery while I want it as much as he does sounds very much like a game to me and to what end? Just in case on the off chance that he thinks I'm cheap if I don't play it? *eyeroll*
Posted by R1g0rM0rT1sPosted by tiki33
Hopefully you haven't had sex with him (sorry for implying that you did). Cut your losses if he's not responding to you in a positive consistent way then there is no reason to continue.
this kind of comment pisses me off....no offence tiki cos you're just saying what is a popular theory...that women who give it up too soon are gonna get disrespected as a result....but i beg to differ.
IF a woman uses sex as some kind of tool to seal a relationship deal then yeah, it's gonna backfire but if a woman finds a man attractive and wants him to fuck her for the same selfish reasons HE wants to fuck her...then what's the problem?
it's just that this 'theory' implies that women can't enjoy sex on a purely carnal level. am i really in the minority of women who can?
it's varied for me personally but i don't have a 'rule' as to when i'll sleep with someone, i let my body tell me...I decide. i can honestly say i've never been disrespected for it either.click to expand
Posted by tiziani
I think it would be unwise to convince yourself there is an art to it either way. It seems to me like purely luck of the draw from relationship to relationship in terms of perception.
And, personally, I don't believe in unemotional detached sex on either side of the gender fence. But what would I know? I only know what it's like to walk in my own boots.
Posted by HouseCleaningPosted by R1g0rM0rT1sPosted by tiki33
Hopefully you haven't had sex with him (sorry for implying that you did). Cut your losses if he's not responding to you in a positive consistent way then there is no reason to continue.
this kind of comment pisses me off....no offence tiki cos you're just saying what is a popular theory...that women who give it up too soon are gonna get disrespected as a result....but i beg to differ.
IF a woman uses sex as some kind of tool to seal a relationship deal then yeah, it's gonna backfire but if a woman finds a man attractive and wants him to fuck her for the same selfish reasons HE wants to fuck her...then what's the problem?
it's just that this 'theory' implies that women can't enjoy sex on a purely carnal level. am i really in the minority of women who can?
it's varied for me personally but i don't have a 'rule' as to when i'll sleep with someone, i let my body tell me...I decide. i can honestly say i've never been disrespected for it either.
it would work if you weren't expecting a relationship out of it. what you do is drop all the boundaries all the lines with a stranger so everything comes out in a flood, the good and bad because of the quick intimacy in your relationship. So characteristics come out more unexpectedly such as threats, can't get your windows cleaned, sexclick to expand
Posted by neuroticvirgo
Not sure how I ended up in the Scorpio forum; but I will say that I agree with what you're saying here. The reality (to me) is a man is going to leave or commit to you if he wants to and when you have sex with him will do little to sway that. I approach like this: I'm having sex because I want to have sex (you didn't Jedi mind trick me into it) so if you never call again then I'll take the emotional hit and keep it moving.
But I find a lot of views on DXP (not necessarily Tikis) to be a bit black & white.
Posted by HouseCleaning
I like this quote, this will make a lot of ladies mad
"A guy is like a key, and a girl is like a lock. A key that opens many locks is a master key, yet a lock that is opened by many keys is a shitty lock."
Posted by ellessque
so, a woman who is comfortable with her body and confident in her decisions is "a promiscuous woman?"
I always thought a promiscuous woman is someone who has one partner after another after another after another and so on.
This is NOT what the nature of the discussion is.
I've had four longterm relationships in my lifetime....longterm that is more than a few years. I didn't "wait" to sleep with any one of them. I let nature take its course and played zero games.
When I started dating a few years ago...for the first time after my divorce....I listened to this fucked up advice and "waited" once to see what they hype was all about. That was a total joke....it made no difference one way or another and we ended up being completely incompatible.
I certainly wouldn't put myself in any "promiscuous woman" category.
Posted by tizianiPosted by R1g0rM0rT1s
i could never have sex with an ex.
LOL then you've just completely contradicted yourselfclick to expand
Posted by QUlETstormPosted by R1g0rM0rT1sPosted by tiki33
Hopefully you haven't had sex with him (sorry for implying that you did). Cut your losses if he's not responding to you in a positive consistent way then there is no reason to continue.
this kind of comment pisses me off....no offence tiki cos you're just saying what is a popular theory...that women who give it up too soon are gonna get disrespected as a result....
Is that what she was implying or is that just your perception of what she was implying?
The way I read it, I took it as "hopefully you haven't had sex with him" because it would only deepen the ties & feelings for him.
I admit I did not read the other thread, but from that sentence alone ^ that's how I took it.click to expand
Posted by QUlETstorm
In women it's just common knowledge that IT DOES.
After posting, I did go and look at the original thread and the chick said in her original post that she's falling in love with the guy. I'd say I agree.. hopefully she didn't fuck him because for MOST women, with sex comes an emotional bonding of some sort.
Posted by tiziani
One ex? Is he buried in the backyard or front?
And yeah I don't believe in "waiting". Not that it is wrong or right. But some people just have that chemistry where you hit it off first night, some are slow burners. Some will never get off the ground no matter how many mind games and mirrors get thrown in the mix.
Posted by ellessque
It was a joke, taurus.
I've been married before, it is possible.
Posted by R1g0rM0rT1sPosted by neuroticvirgo
Not sure how I ended up in the Scorpio forum; but I will say that I agree with what you're saying here. The reality (to me) is a man is going to leave or commit to you if he wants to and when you have sex with him will do little to sway that. I approach like this: I'm having sex because I want to have sex (you didn't Jedi mind trick me into it) so if you never call again then I'll take the emotional hit and keep it moving.
But I find a lot of views on DXP (not necessarily Tikis) to be a bit black & white.
my virgo ascendent drew you here
i guess the key thing is that whether they think you're a slapper or not is of no relevance if you had sex with them cos YOU wanted to. some of the best sex i've ever had has been one night only...no pining...no texting/emailing/facebooking...nada. i got what i wanted. if you want more? well that depends on if i do! if you don't, thanks for the memoryclick to expand
Posted by NotYourAverageAquarius
I think both points of view represented I this thread is valid... And yes women should not feel bad in the least bit about who, when, and how they have sex... long as it isn't related to wanting to be LIKE a man but more for what you desire logically, emotionally, w/e.... Will it mean you won't start developing emotionally attachment ehhh lie to yourself all you want I think it does.
Posted by R1g0rM0rT1sPosted by NotYourAverageAquarius
I think both points of view represented I this thread is valid... And yes women should not feel bad in the least bit about who, when, and how they have sex... long as it isn't related to wanting to be LIKE a man but more for what you desire logically, emotionally, w/e.... Will it mean you won't start developing emotionally attachment ehhh lie to yourself all you want I think it does.
i only start to develop feelings if there's a second time cos that's why i wanna go again.click to expand
Posted by tizianiPosted by neuroticvirgo
Oh and for the record I hadn't had sex in over a year when I met him. But as soon as I met him I KNEW I had to have him! Just because you don't make CERTAIN guys wait doesn't mean ALL guys get to ride the train! Some people are just exceptions to the rule. Delicious, kinky, dirty, awesome exceptions to the rule...mmmmmmmmmmmm
Is this the guy where you're both in love with each other right now?click to expand
Posted by neuroticvirgoPosted by R1g0rM0rT1sPosted by NotYourAverageAquarius
I think both points of view represented I this thread is valid... And yes women should not feel bad in the least bit about who, when, and how they have sex... long as it isn't related to wanting to be LIKE a man but more for what you desire logically, emotionally, w/e.... Will it mean you won't start developing emotionally attachment ehhh lie to yourself all you want I think it does.
i only start to develop feelings if there's a second time cos that's why i wanna go again.
I agree with this! First one's free; if I come back again then emotions are probably coming with me...lolclick to expand
Posted by R1g0rM0rT1s
i have mentioned this before but my aries friend butt fucked his wife on their first date LOL. she was on her period. i remember him telling us all at the pub the following day. still happily married 10 years on. extreme example perhaps but just goes to show!!
Posted by neuroticvirgo
Oh and for the record I hadn't had sex in over a year when I met him. But as soon as I met him I KNEW I had to have him! Just because you don't make CERTAIN guys wait doesn't mean ALL guys get to ride the train! Some people are just exceptions to the rule. Delicious, kinky, dirty, awesome exceptions to the rule...mmmmmmmmmmmm
Posted by HouseCleaningPosted by neuroticvirgo
Oh and for the record I hadn't had sex in over a year when I met him. But as soon as I met him I KNEW I had to have him! Just because you don't make CERTAIN guys wait doesn't mean ALL guys get to ride the train! Some people are just exceptions to the rule. Delicious, kinky, dirty, awesome exceptions to the rule...mmmmmmmmmmmm
and we all take gambles. then when the gambles don't payout the way we want, we mope around about our lossesclick to expand
Posted by gumshoe3Posted by neuroticvirgoPosted by R1g0rM0rT1s
i have mentioned this before but my aries friend butt fucked his wife on their first date LOL. she was on her period. i remember him telling us all at the pub the following day. still happily married 10 years on. extreme example perhaps but just goes to show!!
Well if you butt fluck me on the 1st date... we're getting married! End of story
I like you, neurtoicvirgo. But you had me at your screen name anyway.click to expand
Posted by ellessque
fuck the chemical science bullshit that says we MUST get attached after orgasm, that's pretty much null and void if you add masturbation to the discussion.....why wouldn't I get attached to myself during downtime?
Posted by QUlETstorm
In women it's just common knowledge that IT DOES.
After posting, I did go and look at the original thread and the chick said in her original post that she's falling in love with the guy. I'd say I agree.. hopefully she didn't fuck him because for MOST women, with sex comes an emotional bonding of some sort.
Posted by ellessque
air venus FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Scenic
Mm, while I might not personally sleep with someone on the first date, etc, for other reasons, I don't agree with these social rules. Such as 'it's immoral if you sleep with someone you just met', etc. But...why? It's my body. If I'm just doing it for pleasure, which is more related to biology, anyway, then what's the problem? Just because I live in this society, does not mean I have to abide by all it's views or invisible rules. I don't get why it gets others so riled up or creates a negative stigma around that person. Let them do what they want. You may view it as wrong, but that is an opinion, which means, it's only wrong to you and a few other people who feel strongly towards these invisible social rules. And it's stupid to hate or dislike people unless they directly affect your life. Let them live their own lives.
As for whether sex can be done without emotions....I mean, some emotions are going to be involved. Maybe fondness or closeness, but it's not like other things, like interacting with strangers can't give you that, too. I don't believe whatever bond you may form from sex is strong enough to unbreakable or that big of a deal. Basically, I may sleep with a guy, expecting nothing but sex, feel close to the person afterwards, and move on from him and the situation like I can move on from any other obstacles in my life with little turmoil. Other people get attached more easily or more strongly, but if you're that type of person, then yes, maybe you should reconsider giving it up to people you have no expectations for.
If you have sex early on in the relationship...then who really cares? You're already in the relationship, you know emotional feelings were there or were going to be given the opportunity to grow. If someone is using you for sex, then they're the bad person, not you. Unless you stay with them knowing they're using you, and are also using them back, in which case, you're both expecting and wanting the same thing, so once again..who cares?
Just my personal views, anyway. I hope I was close enough to the point of this topic. Merc retrograde has been really messing me up.
Posted by AreTwoFour
I think scorpio's predatory + sexual nature allows some "masculine" views about sexual conquest under certain circumstances, despite that it is a "feminine" sign and well, us women are supposedly feminine.
And @ HC, scorpio is a dark realm, and I find that removing the boundaries and "letting the animals out" somewhat enticing. That way one can see if a relationship is worth all that energy (cuz scorps stereotypically put a LOT of energy in a real relationship). Might as well go ahead and see what one is dealing with before expending it. It is more efficient too, says my virgo mars
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