Hiding or Simply More Accepting?

This topic was created in the Scorpio forum by PhoenixRising on Wednesday, October 16, 2013 and has 11 replies.
Background:
So, I am sitting around the table with my new team reviewing a few cases. All of the cases are similar in nature, but there is one "exceptional" case involving some "concerning" behaviour. As we are discussing it I am scanning the room and I notice the 3 Scorps around the table (myself included) don't bat an eye as we hear the details, while others (2 Crabs, a Gem, 2 Leebs) are shocked, stunned and appalled by what is being discussed. Strong statements (e.g. deviant, wrong and shameful along with a lot of labels) are being thrown around while the three of us look as though we are all discussing the weather. Anyway it made me wonder a few things....
1) I wondered if our lack of response was due to the fact that we just weren't fazed by the discussion (it wasn't typical behaviour being discussed) or
2) Were we simply hiding our reactions?
I asked this because I know Scorps can be very private (I may be projecting here), so we don't usually show what's going on inside to the outside world. On the other hand, in respect to this discussion at the table I didn't hear anything that was that shocking to me, but I am generally very curious about what people do and why they do it.
Anyway, I'm going somewhere with this.... When you are with friends, despite your level of comfort with the person(s), when the discussion of sex comes around do you:
1) Share openly or stay quiet? Why?
2) Do you let others know you are accepting/open to "abnormal" "deviant" behaviour? Why?
3) Are you less accepting of what is being shared, but simply good at masking your repulsion?
DISCLAIMER: I do not like/use the word deviant or abnormal to label/describe people. I simply used it for the purpose of this thread.
TIA folks!

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Posted by IrresistableScorp
Nothing surprises me. People are capable of all kinds of behavior. I personally don't find too many things shocking.


Posted by Rabbit

And maybe I'm cynical, but there's not much that shocks me any longer. The world is a scary, dangerous, fucked up place. It's an enemy. And the more you know about your enemy, the better you can deal with that enemy effectively.
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It was definitely a blend of this for me as well.
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Posted by MellyMel909
I dont think it's a matter of Scorps being more "accepting" or "hiding".. I think Scorpios are just generally more aware of the entire spectrum of human behavior, so they're less likely to be shocked by evidence of it.


I have to say that there is truth to this.
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Posted by xMoonMan
Posted by MellyMel909

Other signs, especially the "positive/masculine" ones, go through life with ros? colored glasses, dancing to the musicals in their head, so to speak. They choose to focus on the positives and do not like being forced to recognize some the baser inclinations of humanity.
Even the Cancers I know, although a "negative/feminine" sign, are the same way. They are part of the personal signs, or first half of the zodiac. They are also the first of the water signs. As such, they take the information they receive and process it by how it may or may not affect them.

You're mainstreaming sister. Although it's anecdotal from your personal experience it doesn't necessarily reflect the bigger picture including the aspects of age, family upbringing and life experience.
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IMO you're generalising too much but then Phoenix didn't provide any real details for context either.
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I hate typos....
I didn't realize details were necessary for an answer about your behaviour/response as it relates to the 3 questions I asked. One is either open/accepting or not of various types of sexual behaviour.
I wasn't asking for commentary on the other signs at the table since my goal was to better understand a Scorpio's behaviour.
Pointing out the other signs was not done to suggest they are less accepting, just for context.
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Posted by MellyMel909
My apologies PR Sad
I was inserting myself and some of my comments may have detracted from the threads original intent. So I will retract all observations that do not pertain to the topic at hand.
On topic: Scorpios are more aware, hence less surprised by certain elements of human nature.


No need to apologize or retract. Thanks for the contribution.
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Posted by xMoonMan
I guess that's why responses to your thread can only be general in nature. Because the subject is probably very evocative. I can't say how I would react without knowing details.


Sorry, you're saying you would not be able to respond to this without details to these three questions?:
Posted by PhoenixRising

When you are with friends, despite your level of comfort with the person(s), when the discussion of sex comes around do you:
1) Share openly or stay quiet? Why?
2) Do you let others know you are accepting/open to "abnormal" "deviant" behaviour? Why?
3) Are you less accepting of what is being shared, but simply good at masking your repulsion?
DISCLAIMER: I do not like/use the word deviant or abnormal to label/describe people. I simply used it for the purpose of this thread.


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I probably filled the OP with a lot of "noise" (e.g. background info), which distracted from the point of the thread. Either way, I can respect that and I won't push the issue. No need to apologize, derailing is the DXP way didn't ya know. All POV are welcomed in my world. I just didn't want this to become a "Let's Compare the Signs" pissing contest. That really wasn't the point.
Btw, I'm quite grouchy right now, so I apologize if my response seem curt. I don't do well in long meetings.
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Posted by IrresistableScorp
Can I add that this is why Scorpios get tarred with the "paranoid" brush. We aren't paranoid. We know what people are capable of and we will make sure that they aren't doing it to us. It's called: being prepared.
(That's my story and I'm sticking with it).


I get this often and time and time again when I am proven right and simply smile.
I think this speaks to what M&Ms posted:
Posted by MellyMel909
.. I think Scorpios are just generally more aware of the entire spectrum of human behavior, so they're less likely to be shocked by evidence of it.
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Hmmm...
a. I'm odd, and like oddities and curiosities
b. I think most of my friends are likewise and we probably gravitate towards sympathetic weirdness
c. I've gotten past the point of being embarrassed about by sex, and have some rather shocking friends so a bit immune to it.
For example: I have a friend that push buttons- and some of his sexploits are legendary, and another friend that reacts (to crudeness or unfairness or whatever else seems to be implied) in a heartbeat, gets upset and they are no longer friends. I don't understand either reaction as the behaviours are both so transparent.
So I think this is where the scorp element of being aware of a range of the gammut of human behaviour as M&M's raised comes into play. Also, I'm a little jaded and cynical- like Rabbitty said... I'm wondering what the 'angle' is... Or called it prepared- like IS?
And OMG- was I in such a grumpy, stabbby, bitchy mood yesterday- shesh... Luckily it passed smile
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^^meh^^ sorry for the many typo's but I'm going to wave the Tau Moon flag and say I can't be bothered correcting!
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Posted by Rabbit
And maybe I'm cynical, but there's not much that shocks me any longer. The world is a scary, dangerous, fucked up place. It's an enemy. And the more you know about your enemy, the better you can deal with that enemy effectively.



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Posted by djbuck1
Interesting thread. I thought that it was because you all are just composed, cool and a bit aloof in public settings, and that "hiding" or "accepting" didn't even enter into it. You come off as just kind of above it all. Or at least outside of it. Whatever "it" is, and I do mean whatever...My take is that the thought of reacting just doesn't enter into it most of the time for you folks.


Hmmm. I think the context must be taken into account, but for the most part there is a lot of truth in this.
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...In conversations "after," I have heard Scorps speak in no uncertain terms about just what they thought. But in meetings, it's more like an unspoken: "I'm here. I'm listening. If I feel strongly enough I might speak. But probably not. My presence and silence do not denote consent. Or dissent. Or anything at all. You may ask a question. I will respond. Probably. But you have then opened the door to my answer."
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This is pretty spot on.
I think this may be the case because often when information is shared regarding certain topics, I don't typically judge what is being said or shared. It's neither good or bad, it just is. I suppose that is what I meant when I wrote "more accepting". Perhaps it was not the right word. When it comes to issues that are taboo or topics you would not typically have with the average person I can listen without putting any value in it. I also share the sentiments that some other people have shared in this thread. I know what goes bump in the night and it's not some mythological monster. It's the average person smiling at you saying good morning, so very little shocks me when it is brought to light.
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