Hillary Clinton v. Donald Trump

This topic was created in the Scorpio forum by MrFirebird on Thursday, March 17, 2016 and has 72 replies.
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I don't care if Hillary is a Scorpio Sun / Pisces Moon. That woman is bad news. Seriously.
The face. The cackle. The scandals. The bedlam.

Beside her success in political activism and law, she is also connected with the infamous
scandals that led to intense scrutiny. "Whitewater", "Travelgate" and "Filegate" not to mention
the mysterious death of her friend Vince Foster. A lot of weird things associated
thing floating in and around this woman's past.

Then, there's Bill.
"Two for the price of one", eh?


Donald J. Trump
What can be said about him, that's not already known?
An heir of fortune, a shrewd and cunning global businessman in the field of real estate, a tabloid and
media celebrity, a not-so-fortunate practitioner of marriage, but apparently reasonably successful at raising good
kids to behave themselves and to be successful in their own right.
It's no secret that he is extremely confident. He is well known to be a blowhard, proud, arrogant, conceited,
and quite self-aggrandizing much to the disgust of many, who are not, shall we say.... "acclimated" to
his "brand" of being. He IS, after all, a New Yorker.

Donald Trump was a Democrat, a Republican, and a member of the Reform and Tea Parties.
But what I think he really is, is an Independent.

IF you wanted to sell off the country, who would you hire?
Between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, does it really make a difference?

Make no mistake, Donald J. Trump is Chummy with the global elite, among whom, Bill and Hillary Clinton
and the Bushes. And the Clintons and Bushes are chummy with each other.

I think Donald's presence in the Republican race for the White House, is not about "saving the country"
but transforming it into something altogether different from it's traditional past.
Talk is cheap, and what I am hearing, between the lines................ is that Donald is actually sabotaging
the Republican party and securing the election for Hillary Clinton.

Perfect example of clever salesmanship:
Latinos can get mad at him for wanting to build a wall. He doesn't care. Why? Because he KNOWS he
cannot do it. Yet, that snake oil is being bought by a certain segment of society who have legitimate
concerns about illegal immigration. Concerns that even green-card holders would be concerned about
if they understood the mathematics of economic supply and demand.
Yo, migrant worker, no work here, your fellow migrants beat you to it. Hit the road. (why else have many
illegals even legal green-card holders, returned south of the border and not come back? - that's right no jobs
White people should understand this basic math regardless their political affiliation... but liberalism is liberalism)


At best, I think Donald Trump is a Trojan Horse.
He is a Barack Obama of another kind.
Fooling many in the republican party and many newcomers,
mocking the snot out of everyone.




Politicians are like salesmen. What is Donald?
If you wanted to sell off the land, who would you want to call?


There is a saying:
Democracy begets Anarchy and Anarchy begets Tyranny.

America is transitioning into the "Anarchy" phase.

Posted by MrFirebird
I don't care if Hillary is a Scorpio Sun / Pisces Moon. That woman is bad news. Seriously.
The face. The cackle. The scandals. The bedlam.


What's her face and "cackle" got to do with politics? Srsly not all public women are there for your sexual gratification. By your logic, Angela Merkel is bad news too?

Meanwhile you haven't mentioned ONE single word about how Trump looks.. and I assume it's not because you think he's a looker.

Too f cking predictible, boyo.

If you're only reason to vote for Hillary is to beat Trump. If you're stuck in the repetitive bullcrap of voting for evil instead of taking a stand against oligarchy and voting 3rd party... you are the problem.


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Posted by MrFirebird
I don't care if Hillary is a Scorpio Sun / Pisces Moon. That woman is bad news. Seriously.
The face. The cackle. The scandals. The bedlam.


What's her face and "cackle" got to do with politics? Srsly not all public women are there for your sexual gratification. By your logic, Angela Merkel is bad news too?

Meanwhile you haven't mentioned ONE single word about how Trump looks.. and I assume it's not because you think he's a looker.

Too f cking predictible, boyo.


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Nothing but she sucks as a leader. She claims pro union yet sat on board with Walmart. She is one of the reasons the Middle East is a hot mess and she has profited off people's misfortune during the fall of this economy.


Her face reminds me of all the things her and her buddies have done to us. Her buddy is also Trump. If those two are our choices just let the terrorists come on in. We're done. Get the Mad Max cars ready. I'm riding shot gun.
Posted by Finbuff
Because her cackle and fat azz body and face doesn't make her look presidential in demeanor, nor fit enough to serve out a full term, due to lack of self respect to take care of herself physically. Anything else, just let me know.

Angela Merker is a Cinderella then?

Posted by Finbuff
Because her cackle and fat azz body and face doesn't make her look presidential in demeanor, nor fit enough to serve out a full term, due to lack of self respect to take care of herself physically. Anything else, just let me know.

By that argument, Drumpf shouldn't make the cut, either. He's just as overweight as Hillary, he's pretty much the same age which means he has a high risk of heart attack, stroke or cancer (heart attack being a higher risk for him than Hillary because he's a man). Drumpf obviously has no self respect when you consider his tacky taste in clothes, hideous hair piece, and horrible fake tan orange color, and no matter that he's grown up with money, he still talks and acts like a high school drop-out with trailer trash roots. Just sayin......maybe picking a presidential candidate should be more about actual ideals and policies of the politician and not just looks.....
Drumpf only tells the truth 7% of the time, which is a worse lying record than Hillary, and everyone knows how much she lies (her truth percent is just under 50% ). Add that he's an unashamed bigot who encourages his supporters to violently quiet protestors or anyone who speaks out against him and all I see is a man who is cut from the same cloth as Kim Jung-un of N. Korea. Do we really want an orange version of Kim Jung-un?
And this made me laugh.....

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Posted by WhiteChocolate
"Essentially what it comes down to is "I prefer Trump's lies over Clinton's lies"

LMAO



I prefer Hilary's lies over Trump's "truths"
Posted by MoonArtist
And this made me laugh.....

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HAHAHA!

I saw this on facepoop this,morning and almost peed in my pants.
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Posted by WhiteChocolate
http://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/presidential-candidates-speak-grade-school-level-according-study


El. Oh. El.

5th grade level.


Way to step up your game, America.

I'm surprised Drumpf got as high as 5th grade considering he routinely speaks in fragments, and rarely finishes his sentences. My 4th grader has better speaking abilities.
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Posted by WhiteChocolate
http://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/presidential-candidates-speak-grade-school-level-according-study


El. Oh. El.

5th grade level.


Way to step up your game, America.

I'm surprised Drumpf got as high as 5th grade considering he routinely speaks in fragments, and rarely finishes his sentences. My 4th grader has better speaking abilities.

It's 2016 5th grade level though, so it's probably a considerable but lower.

Not 5th grade when we were in 5th grade.
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Maybe it depends on where the 5th grade school is. I'm sure some in the Ozarks or Mississippi are probably closer to 2nd grade on grammar and vocabulary than others around the country.
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http://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/presidential-candidates-speak-grade-school-level-according-study


El. Oh. El.

5th grade level.


Way to step up your game, America.

I'm surprised Drumpf got as high as 5th grade considering he routinely speaks in fragments, and rarely finishes his sentences. My 4th grader has better speaking abilities.

It's 2016 5th grade level though, so it's probably a considerable but lower.

Not 5th grade when we were in 5th grade.

Maybe it depends on where the 5th grade school is. I'm sure some in the Ozarks or Mississippi are probably closer to 2nd grade on grammar and vocabulary than others around the country.

IDK...I keep going back and seeing my posts and all the errors and realize I'm probably at Trump's language level Sad
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Language and writing has always come very easily to me, unlike math, which I've struggled with all my life, but I find Drumpf's way of speaking in fragmented sentences incredibly irritating. I wouldn't pick on his speaking level so much if he would form complete sentences, finish his thoughts, and actually answer the questions asked of him, rather than making a hodge podge, tangled mess that ultimately says nothing while propping himself up; he's always the expert on everything, who knows everyone, who can solve anything. In short, he's full of hot air, which means he's just a windbag, or a fartgun.
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How to Move from the U.S. to Canada
http://traveltips.usatoday.com/move-us-canada-63923.html




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Other than the land on the west coast, I can't think of a good reason to move to Canada. It's almost like Arkansas. A place that doesn't belong there.


Lets consider this Asian family
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Right below their smiling faces, it reads:

Prepare for life in Canada

Finding a job, getting your credentials assessed, learning English and French and what to expect when you get to Canada, financially, socially and culturally

Seems to me Canada is a bit biased, languagewise. Try that in the US and you might be labeled "racist".

Apparently, Canada doesn't want African-Americans because they want you to find a job, which may explain why the welfare recipients haven't
chosen to move to Canada for all the racists in the US. On the other hand, the "Canamex" highway appears to be a great way for Hispanics to
move north, bypassing the US, altogether.

It really makes me wonder why the Asian family is smiling. They are pretty smart, you know.



Posted by seraph
The fact that Trump has created an environment of acceptable bigotry against certain groups and he doesn't care, should alone disqualify him, no matter what else he's offering. His supporters, and those looking at this dangerous spectacle with tacit (never mind overt) acceptance, have major boundary issues.

It doesn't matter if it's all a joke, a long con, or some cloak-and-dagger game to get the Democrats into office. He's already caused major social damage and division, for which very few (and certainly not his supporters) are holding him substantially accountable. And it isn't even Trump as an insane-person that's in question here, who's bringing out the worst in people, and who's so cavalier about it that he's encouraging it. The real problem here is folks like the OP, who don't even reference any of this even obliquely. THAT is what's disturbing. Never mind Hillary. Anyone with any hint of a moral and ethical compass should see that Trump makes "the establishment" look like saints.

This demand for revolutionary change from politics-as-usal is causing a disconcertingly large amount of people with voting ability to swing to another extreme. Out of the frying pan and right into the fire. They don't want "lying politicians", but they're just fine with green-lighting an amoral, sociopathic bigot.

Now that the goalposts have been moved, is it a such a cognitive leap to assume that from here on in, it'll be perfectly fine (even desirable) to elevate folks like this to public office?




very well written Seraph......
Posted by MrFirebird
Posted by LetltB
How to Move from the U.S. to Canada
http://traveltips.usatoday.com/move-us-canada-63923.html




""

Other than the land on the west coast, I can't think of a good reason to move to Canada. It's almost like Arkansas. A place that doesn't belong there.


Lets consider this Asian family
User Submitted Image
Right below their smiling faces, it reads:

Prepare for life in Canada

Finding a job, getting your credentials assessed, learning English and French and what to expect when you get to Canada, financially, socially and culturally

Seems to me Canada is a bit biased, languagewise. Try that in the US and you might be labeled "racist".

Apparently, Canada doesn't want African-Americans because they want you to find a job, which may explain why the welfare recipients haven't
chosen to move to Canada for all the racists in the US. On the other hand, the "Canamex" highway appears to be a great way for Hispanics to
move north, bypassing the US, altogether.

It really
makes me wonder why the Asian family is smiling. They are pretty smart, you know.




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suck a dick firebird
Posted by WhiteChocolate
Ha!

You have to show proof of English language proficiency to get in to Canada!

And yet immigrants to the US demand government documents be available in their native language...




Do you?

Interesting... I wonder then why we're

given so much grief.


Posted by seraph
The fact that Trump has created an environment of acceptable bigotry against certain groups and he doesn't care, should alone disqualify him, no matter what else he's offering. His supporters, and those looking at this dangerous spectacle with tacit (never mind overt) acceptance, have major boundary issues.

It doesn't matter if it's all a joke, a long con, or some cloak-and-dagger game to get the Democrats into office. He's already caused major social damage and division, for which very few (and certainly not his supporters) are holding him substantially accountable. And it isn't even Trump as an insane-person that's in question here, who's bringing out the worst in people, and who's so cavalier about it that he's encouraging it. The real problem here is folks like the OP, who don't even reference any of this even obliquely. THAT is what's disturbing. Never mind Hillary. Anyone with any hint of a moral and ethical compass should see that Trump makes "the establishment" look like saints.

This demand for revolutionary change from politics-as-usal is causing a disconcertingly large amount of people with voting ability to swing to another extreme. Out of the frying pan and right into the fire. They don't want "lying politicians", but they're just fine with green-lighting an amoral, sociopathic bigot.

Now that the goalposts have been moved, is it a such a cognitive leap to assume that from here on in, it'll be perfectly fine (even desirable) to elevate folks like this to public office?

Its unfortunate that he has stooped to the

level of the Dems, can't argue there.

Lets hope doesn't also bus in protesters for hire,

as they did.

Posted by WhiteChocolate
From the article:

The supporting documents vary by residency category and include a photocopy of the personal information pages of your valid U.S. passport, proof of English (and sometimes French) language proficiency, birth certificate and financial information.

So Canada has standards that many other countries

have forsaken... wonder if thats why its so nice to

live there.


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Posted by WhiteChocolate
Ha!

You have to show proof of English language proficiency to get in to Canada!

And yet immigrants to the US demand government documents be available in their native language...




Do you?

Interesting... I wonder then why we're

given so much grief.



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Because hypocrisy regarding 'Murica is fashionable.
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All I know is Arkansas is better regarded than Indiana.

In what way?

Both of our Governors suck.

No one makes fun of Arkansas.

Everyone makes fun of us.
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Indiana is the only state I know whose border county residents seem to want to belong to another state--Kentuckiana, Illiana, Michiana. I've never heard "Ohioana". Maybe its because it sounds weird...
scorpio & gemini.

lmao.
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Posted by WhiteChocolate
All I know is Arkansas is better regarded than Indiana.

In what way?

Both of our Governors suck.

No one makes fun of Arkansas.

Everyone makes fun of us.

Indiana is the only state I know whose border county residents seem to want to belong to another state--Kentuckiana, Illiana, Michiana. I've never heard "Ohioana". Maybe its because it sounds weird...

I once saw a weird conglomerate on Indiana, Michigan, and Illinois up north once...but I can't recall what it was.

I still claim Ohio roots, so I don't technically count as a Hoosier.
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Up until recently, Indiana effectively had three time zones-The northwest counties were on central standard time/daylight savings, the south east counties were on eastern/daylight savings, and the rest of the state was Eastern/no daylight savings.
I figured the northwest and southeast were calibrated to Chicago and Louisville/Cincinnati respectively.
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Posted by WhiteChocolate
All I know is Arkansas is better regarded than Indiana.

In what way?

Both of our Governors suck.

No one makes fun of Arkansas.

Everyone makes fun of us.
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Arkansas is a place that doesn't belong there.

Just ask the truck driver that's been through it.


It's spelled Arkansaw
OMFG!!

A Trump v Clinton race?

How low has our country gone? This is pathetic. I hate Trump for the Trickster he is BUT I hate Hilary more for being a weak ass, trifling, liar and full on manipulator.

In this scenario, I've got to vote Trump because who wants Hilary at the helm? Fuck no
Seriously, I think that people need to listen to Donald Trump, through and through. Think about what he is saying.
As it stands, most people develop an opinion of someone based on media blitzkrieg twisting and distorting of words
that is consisting of a narrative that promotes a given agenda, which, in this case, is the opinion of the liberal left-wing.
In short, what I personally appreciate is "UNFILTERED" and "UNCENSORED" coverage of what was said. -
When I listen to original coverage, an entirely different picture and message, emerges.

Humorist, Will Rogers once said "All I know is what I read in the papers". When the newspapers (nowadays electronic media)
report the news, they usually get the original source terribly wrong and what the people see and hear and read, is tweaked,
distorted and repackaged into a narrative that, nowadays, promotes the agenda of the source news media outlet.
It's no secret that, in the US, ABC, CBS and NBC, the old school "Big Three" are liberal media outlets and MSNBC and CNN
are the modern "Big Two" liberal cable network news media outlets while "Fox News" is the only conservative news media
outlet. And they all tweek and twist the news.

It used to be that the news media's job was to simply report the news. Nowadays, the media establishment has gone far
beyond simple reporting. They ARE the mouthpieces of those who dictate and maintain agendas that instill controversy and
unrest in the public debate.

Below are examples of what you should watch, in order to form your own personal opinion opposed to what you are most
likely to watch, the filtered coverage, that influences your opinion.








For the record, I am pro- free speech and pro-gun to back up the free speech, "IF necessary".
A homosexual is free to be homo, if that is his/her prerogative, but he/she has no right to force their
lifestyle on me as being acceptable behavior, though they are allowed to voice their opinions, thoughts and ideal.
BUT... they can expect my rebuttal to their opinions, thoughts and ideals, if and when I feel it necessary to do so.

The same holds true for the "extremist" feminists, pro-choice, pro-black and pro-hispanic groups, along with those liberal and socialists
can expect the same treatment.



Do women deserve equal pay for equal work? Darn right they do.
Do women, blacks and hispanics deserve to be treated with dignity and respect?
Only those who have shown dignity and respect to others and the white man, whom they so hate.





Everyone has an opinion.
The message that Donald Trump is sending, is actually, a reaction to an action, and for many, a reaction
to a long train of abuses by the establishment.
Posted by enfant_terrible
It's spelled Arkansaw


No. That is how it is "pronounced", Yugosloppyun.

Arkansas is also a state who's founders failed terribly at English grammar. So bad, the problem endures to this day. Kansas was already taken.
so the Arkies, as they are known, decided to call the place Arkansas. They were known for their trade in cutting wood.
"Arkansas" was what the carpenters would say at the time. "Arkansas" was "I can saw". They were vehemently against the secret society of "Lodgepoles".
And the best they ever came up with was Bill Clinton, on the left and Mike Huckabee, on the right.
Anyway, that's the story the locals tell.







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Posted by enfant_terrible
It's spelled Arkansaw


No. That is how it is "pronounced", Yugosloppyun.

Arkansas is also a state who's founders failed terribly at English grammar. So bad, the problem endures to this day. Kansas was already taken.
so the Arkies, as they are known, decided to call the place Arkansas. They were known for their trade in cutting wood.
"Arkansas" was what the carpenters would say at the time. "Arkansas" was "I can saw". They were vehemently against the secret society of "Lodgepoles".
And the best they ever came up with was Bill Clinton, on the left and Mike Huckabee, on the right.
Anyway, that's the story the locals tell.









Worth the trip for the Talimena Drive.
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I can think of some better places but to each his own.

Arkansas just makes ya want to reach out and slap someone.

- Seriously, anyone who would say they "smoked pot but didn't inhale" has to be a pretty dumb baboon.
Compensating for the obvious mistake she made, in marrying that baboon, it shouldn't be surprising that Hillary
is the one who wears the pants in that family.

Regardless, I swear Donald Trump is playing a game. Intentionally sabotaging the GOP with his rhetoric, yet attracting
voters with some serious common sense. Shouldn't be surprising that the GOP heads are nervous and panicking.
Trump is some kind of bait-and-switch Trojan Horse and VERY good at what he's doin'.

He is stirring up people on BOTH parties. On the right they can't stand him because he is a threat to their boat, and on the left,
he's ticking off the populace with what he says that gets tweaked and twisted and ironically, he's ticking off the media.

The man's a genius but his communication is awkward.
On the other hand, I almost get the impression that he had only so long to live, he tells the kids "here's your heir prize, I'm gonna go out
with a bang".



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I don't care if Hillary is a Scorpio Sun / Pisces Moon. That woman is bad news. Seriously.
The face. The cackle. The scandals. The bedlam.

Beside her success in political activism and law, she is also connected with the infamous
scandals that led to intense scrutiny. "Whitewater", "Travelgate" and "Filegate" not to mention
the mysterious death of her friend Vince Foster. A lot of weird things associated
thing floating in and around this woman's past.


When Hillary handed over the travel documents to public officials, they couldn’t find any evidence she’d committed any crimes, so she must have doctored them.

Congress spent tens of millions of dollars and six years investigating her investment in the Whitewater real-estate project, and, while they didn’t actually find anything, they wouldn’t have spent all that money if there weren’t something there.

By cleverly hiding all evidence of her crimes in the Whitewater affair, she caused Congress to waste all that taxpayers’ money.

This is all very dark, satanic, and Scorpionic. Think about it. It is....just like goofy paranoid conspiracy theories from Alex Jones...just look, the connection is there.
Between those two evils. I think I'd choose my poison of Clinton. I'd still take that damn snake over Trump
As a European I am having a hard time understanding US citizens are even taking Trump serious. I mean We have plenty of bad-haired politicians as well but at least they do their math. Trump is like a bad joke from the '80's where he should have stayed.

He is known to be a businessman who has a tendency to hype the product and then leave without a trace if it doesn't have the return he wants. And you are picking him for one of the hardest jobs in the USA?
Posted by Sn1p3r187
Between those two evils. I think I'd choose my poison of Clinton. I'd still take that damn snake over Trump


Well I think either way. I hear them going off daily yahoo and television. Sometimes they sound like children. The op sounded ridiculous discussing Hillary's appearance and the proceeded to up Donald in the most tacky way. The op sounded flat out ignorant.
The way I look at it is we're in a country dealing with some main issues. One is immigration. And as much I want to be biased because of the fact my husband is illegal and from Mexico... Rules are rules. Be here legally, but on the other hand don't treat illegals differently because yeah bitch unless you are full blooded American Indian then shut your fuxin face because both candidates are technically immigrants. And if they want to send the supposively 11 million illegals back (god knows how they got that freaking number) those bitcches are illegal to.
I think each candidate should be more transparent and talk specifically about the issues. Rather than Trump talking sh*t and being so petty and Hillary sitting on the fence. There's real issues so let's talk.
Who would I personally vote for? Neither, but if I had to Hillary
Posted by MrFirebird
Posted by Sn1p3r187
Between those two evils. I think I'd choose my poison of Clinton. I'd still take that damn snake over Trump



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What's your point? I'd still take Clinton. I'll admit the protesters who're protesting Trump are a bunch of assholes but that doesn't change anything for me. If I'm going to pick a poison, I'll pick the one that kills me the slowest and makes time for me to get a hospital and hopefully get straightened out. Not the one that acts like Box Jellyfish venom and kills me in 3 minutes.
Posted by CruellaWhite
Americans hate Hilary mostly for what Bill did. The level of hate is unjust.

I don't.

She is unlikable on her own.

Nobody cares that Bill banged an intern, anymore.

It was just fodder for the ever present dog and pony

show in Washington, and everyone's moved on to

the next one.



Posted by Sn1p3r187
Posted by MrFirebird
Posted by Sn1p3r187
Between those two evils. I think I'd choose my poison of Clinton. I'd still take that damn snake over Trump




What's your point? I'd still take Clinton. I'll admit the protesters who're protesting Trump are a bunch of assholes but that doesn't change anything for me. If I'm going to pick a poison, I'll pick the one that kills me the slowest and makes time for me to get a hospital and hopefully get straightened out. Not the one that acts like Box Jellyfish venom and kills me in 3 minutes.
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Why pick a poison?
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Posted by Sn1p3r187
Between those two evils. I think I'd choose my poison of Clinton. I'd still take that damn snake over Trump




What's your point? I'd still take Clinton. I'll admit the protesters who're protesting Trump are a bunch of assholes but that doesn't change anything for me. If I'm going to pick a poison, I'll pick the one that kills me the slowest and makes time for me to get a hospital and hopefully get straightened out. Not the one that acts like Box Jellyfish venom and kills me in 3 minutes.


Why pick a poison?

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Because either way we're screwed. I could choose not to, but it won't make a damn bit of difference for the people who choose to pick their poison and poison the rest of us.
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Posted by enfant_terrible
It's spelled Arkansaw


No. That is how it is "pronounced", Yugosloppyun.


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Posted by Finbuff
Posted by Sn1p3r187
Between those two evils. I think I'd choose my poison of Clinton. I'd still take that damn snake over Trump

I was your age once, young and dumb, and I voted for some jerk-weed liberal idiot. Then I grew up, earned a small fortune, got educated, and my perspective changes. 85% of the country is total idjuts, the quesiton is, do you have what it takes to put yourself in the 15 percentile?
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to put myself in the 15th percentile of retards? No thanks. He's an idiotic ass. Still not voting for him. Wouldn't vote for Clinton either but there doesn't seem to be much of a choice because both parties offered shitty candidates.
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Posted by Sn1p3r187
Between those two evils. I think I'd choose my poison of Clinton. I'd still take that damn snake over Trump




What's your point? I'd still take Clinton. I'll admit the protesters who're protesting Trump are a bunch of assholes but that doesn't change anything for me. If I'm going to pick a poison, I'll pick the one that kills me the slowest and makes time for me to get a hospital and hopefully get straightened out. Not the one that acts like Box Jellyfish venom and kills me in 3 minutes.


Why pick a poison?


Because either way we're screwed. I could choose not to, but it won't make a damn bit of difference for the people who choose to pick their poison and poison the rest of us.
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You say "either way, we're screwed"
In your OWN words (meaning that you are not repeating what the media says), HOW are you screwed?
What do you like dislike about the two candidates?


Republican: Popular Vote Total - Trump: 7,808,832 Cruz: 5,727,172 Rubio: 3,434,987 Kasich: 2,804,092 Spread: Trump +2,081,660

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/republican_vote_count.html

Democratic: RCP Total - Clinton: 8,903,899 Sanders: 6,344,463 Spread: Clinton +2,559,436

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/democratic_vote_count.html
(As of 3-23-2016)

IF the General Election, the election that decides who will become President (among other things), were held, today, it appears that Trump would
win the popular vote (According to RCP's website). But it's the electoral college that counts, not who's more popular.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_College_% 28United_States% 29

There IS, however controversy associated with the electoral college that extends beyond the simple popular v. electoral college debate.

With the passage of time, a state's demographics will change. The decennial census is the census taken every 10 years. What once was true in 2010, may not
be true in 2020. And the Electoral College map is redrawn according to the reapportionment of electoral seats, which are the ones who cast the final vote.
Contrary to popular belief, the masses of people do NOT directly vote for the president. Instead they are pooled into the electoral college system.
(Refer to links below)


Electoral College (United States)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_College_% 28United_States% 29

Electoral vote changes between United States presidential elections
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_vote_changes_between_United_States_presidential_elections

United States congressional apportionment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_congressional_apportionment

The electoral college is sometimes blamed for the lack of turn-out because in a state that is dominantly democratic, the republicans
are apt to stay home and not bother voting at all and vice versa.

Because of this, a productive (manufacturing/agriculture) provider state may suffer severely at the hands of the dependent/welfare state.
Liberal/Socialists/Communists/Fascists/Environmentalists ideologies find their way into the political party and that party serves as a
church to the mass of ignorant minions, the elected leaders serving as ministers preachers and high priests who dish out their entitlement
propaganda to their parishioners who have yet to figure out that someone has to pay for it and that their own party is doing all it can to put THEM out of work.
In short, their message is: "It's ok to bite off the hand that feeds you".
Yesssss, A tragically stupid philosophy wholly owned and supported by a rather peculiar people.


Posted by Finbuff
Words cannot describe how despicable, weak and feckless the current occupant of the White House appears to me.
Thank God I live in a country where we can call a turd, a turd.

Are you thinking about the baseball game occupant?
Posted by MrFirebird
Posted by Sn1p3r187
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Posted by Sn1p3r187
Between those two evils. I think I'd choose my poison of Clinton. I'd still take that damn snake over Trump




What's your point? I'd still take Clinton. I'll admit the protesters who're protesting Trump are a bunch of assholes but that doesn't change anything for me. If I'm going to pick a poison, I'll pick the one that kills me the slowest and makes time for me to get a hospital and hopefully get straightened out. Not the one that acts like Box Jellyfish venom and kills me in 3 minutes.


Why pick a poison?


Because either way we're screwed. I could choose not to, but it won't make a damn bit of difference for the people who choose to pick their poison and poison the rest of us.


You say "either way, we're screwed"
In your OWN words (meaning that you are not repeating what the media says), HOW are you screwed?
What do you like dislike about the two candidates?



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Because one president's policies can affect us all. And simple, I don't want his idiotic mindset to be associated with all Americans. Because in the end he's making us all look bad to the rest of the world.
Posted by seraph
The fact that Trump has created an environment of acceptable bigotry against certain groups and he doesn't care, should alone disqualify him, no matter what else he's offering. His supporters, and those looking at this dangerous spectacle with tacit (never mind overt) acceptance, have major boundary issues.

It doesn't matter if it's all a joke, a long con, or some cloak-and-dagger game to get the Democrats into office. He's already caused major social damage and division, for which very few (and certainly not his supporters) are holding him substantially accountable. And it isn't even Trump as an insane-person that's in question here, who's bringing out the worst in people, and who's so cavalier about it that he's encouraging it. The real problem here is folks like the OP, who don't even reference any of this even obliquely. THAT is what's disturbing. Never mind Hillary. Anyone with any hint of a moral and ethical compass should see that Trump makes "the establishment" look like saints.

This demand for revolutionary change from politics-as-usal is causing a disconcertingly large amount of people with voting ability to swing to another extreme. Out of the frying pan and right into the fire. They don't want "lying politicians", but they're just fine with green-lighting an amoral, sociopathic bigot.

Now that the goalposts have been moved, is it a such a cognitive leap to assume that from here on in, it'll be perfectly fine (even desirable) to elevate folks like this to public office?

Im still scratching my head at the shrewd businessman comment after he inherited most of his fortune, blew a ton of it on bad real estate deals, has filed bankruptcy multiple times and has been sued multiple times by his investors...and let's not mention his current legal entanglement over Trump University.
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