Holy Hijacked! Scorpio depth... II

First, I would like to say thank you for the reply. It's an honest and valid answer to my inquiry. thank you for taking the time.

Elliot of the High Scorpios>>What have you expected to see in your observations of Scorpios?

Nothing...I try to limit my expectations of people. I simply observe attempting to limit the judgement aspect of a thing.


Elliot of the High Scorpios>>What I've found with Leos... or any fire signs is that they're surprised to find that Leo depth and Scorpio depth are completely unrelated. They're not the same.

I agree...they are not the same

Elliot of the High Scorpios>>Scorpio depth is akin to 'involvement', not to a thing of far-seeing insight, or high wisdom, or inspirational, generalizable reasoning, but it's a very close scrutiny that seems to go 'inside' rather than up, down, or all the way around. It's also far more emotional than the idea of 'depth' is commonly given credit for.

Ok...

Elliot of the High Scorpios>> which is why it's hard to 'observe' a Scorpio and point out his or her depth.

This part I disagree with. The scorpio's I've observed (including a few on these boards) have passion aplenty. The problem I'm having is that scorpio remember the feeling they have had, not the facts....so the perspective is inacurate, slightly skewed. It is this inacuracy that confuses people ....for example: I hear my scorpio lover say things to me like "You always go out with your friends" or "all you do is come over when your drunk and want to have sex" when in fact these are things that I have done.....ONCE. One time!

And not only that.....but when this is pointed out to them, they see that maybe it's true, but don't change theri view irregaurdless. What they feel is true....the formed opinion remains. In total disregaurd for the truth of the matter. How can one hope to observe depth in a person who is not dealing with reality? they arn't deep, they are wrong. Which is probably the reason for their dificulty in relationships.

However.....i will say this, that when their emotions are not involved....when they are observing someone or something which they are not involved with personally, the perspective is dead on, and instantanious. Quite remarkable to be sure. Very impressive.

(con't)

Elliot of the High Scorpios>> It's the typical Scorpio determination, extreme-care, and attention (which in Scorpio's case can be taken for 'alarm') that make them so relentlessly involved and deep without precaution. If a Scorpio isn't deep, then they have no real defining characteristics that make any sense whatsoever. You cannot throw out this Scorpio-description - deep - sensibly without throwing out the entire understanding of the sign, which is mainly why I think people who don't understand the Scorpio depth don't understand the sign at all.

This is very interesting, and i get a sence of what your talking about, but maybe the depth is just their life, not the workings of their mind....for example: Anna Nicole (not a scorpio) was not a deep person, agreed? However, her life and death definately had depth. Maybe it is just the intesity of a person that drives them forth to experience a rich, deep existance, and not a depth of character that defines them as deep?

notso07 >> How well do you think you know these friends you speak of?

I know them pretty well now. They lie a lot...lol...but I can see right through it most of the time. LOL, actually one of them lies to me all the time, and I never say anything, I figure...if it makes him happy, let him have his fun. But when i do this he lies ever more blatantly, as if to say...."You not going to call me on this? OK....i'll just make it even more unbelievable until you do" I suspect that he thinks I am lieing to him, which of course, i'm not. But I don't tell him this, I did once, and he didn't seem to believe me, so now i just let him think i'm lieing. He's either going to realize i'm not, or he'll continue to think i am....I realize that it's a part of their makeup, makes them feel more secure that people don't know everything about them. But does this make them deep? Or just suspicous?

notso07 >> And what is your idea of being "deep?"

I always thought a deep person whould think about things in a non superficial way. Go deep down about ideas, feelings, thoughts, experiences...but this can mean many things. I guess, i just don't see these particular scorpios going as deep as anyone else would. So why define them as deep? (I don't really see too many on these boards going that deep either, no offence to anyone reading this) there are really very few deep people around IMO, under any sign, wish there were! I like deep...deep people get to the root of things, and have the power to change the world. You are deep...I enjoy your posts. 😉

notso07 >> I am curious as well. Oftentimes, people's idea of a "deep" person is someone who sits around looking very introspective and consumed with thought. Perhaps a poet type with one of those French beanie hats. Or someone who frequently sheds a tear for the starving children in third world countries. My point being, what type of behavior and/or appearance do you look for in a so-called deep individual?

Good question.....but like i said, it would be somone who gets down to the root of things. Most people don't go down that far. They stop short, get led astray, loose focus....or interest. You have to have stamina to be deep. just look at that hijacked board! lol, very few can stay on focus.

(con't)

notso07 >>One thing I can say is that I have friends that have known me since childhood, but have yet to get a full glimpse of my inner-workings. This might be the case the other way around also. You only know what you are allowed to see. This is true for anyone.

I disagree...well, i mean it's true, that does happen, but only because they arn't deep enough to get you. Not many people are, even if you are a shallow person and you don't go way down. Poeple just don't have the interest to get to know others in any meaningful way. They are too busy with experienceing their own self awareness to realize that others are a part of them, thier life, and it would serve them well to become one with others. I'm not even sure they know that they should, or how to if they wanted to. Ah, but to really know somone....it requires an awareness, a daily watchfulness. When you move into communion with the souls of others their intentions become clear to you. In fact, the more you "get" another person, the more clear their intentions become. It is possible to be so in tune with another person, that you actually see their intentions clearer than they do! This is when people will call you psychic. When you get to this level of clarity, you tend to say less and less. Poeple don't get you, and when you tell them that you get them, and you tell them what you observe, they don't know how you know this, and don't believe you anyway. So you just remain quite about things most of the time, helping and talking to people where they are at in their level of experience.

But I digress! Yes, SOME people only know what they are allowed to see. But there is the added benefit...or misfortune....of an individuals experience filter. Poeple can only relate to you inasfar as their experience allows. But when you make a blanket statement like that, you don't allow that people do know you. Maybe they just don't filter the information like you do, so their actions (while understanding you) don't communicate to you that they do understand....know what i mean?