Jupiter in Scorpio - God or Monster

This topic was created in the Scorpio forum by CancerLeoDynamite on Sunday, January 13, 2013 and has 4 replies.
I wasn't quite sure where to put this but I decided to do it on the Scorp board after much (25 seconds or so) debate.
I'm fairly new to Astrology, but fascinated. like many on the forum I diligently research my chart and the various meanings in my spare time.
So today I found out that my Jupiter is in Scorpio;
Then I found this;
God Or Monster?
Jupiter rules our personal philosophy and wisdom, the area in which we have the deepest, natural understanding. By planet, Jupiter tells us the area where our personal philosophy centers in and is born of; the area in our lives we are most comfortable and "lucky." The house Jupiter falls in indicates how we bring this wisdom to the world. Jupiter stays in each sign for roughly 12 months, and is so considered a "generational planet," although not to the extent that Neptune (stays in sign 14 years), Uranus (7 years), Pluto (14-30 years, depending) and Saturn (2.5 years) are.
When Jupiter is found in the sign of Scorpio, a hypnotic quality is added to the personality. Scorpio, ruled by Pluto, in the planet Jupiter bestows natives with a deeper understanding of what it hidden away from others, and individuals with this placement therefore have a clever, charming and somewhat underhanded quality to them that can be difficult to pin down. There's almost always a degree of social power evident in these individuals, mostly due to their ability to clearly see (and exploit, if they choose to) the ugly, hidden parts of everything around them- people, situations, etc. This overwhelming need to both uncover and possess the absolute, dirty truth of every circumstance sounds daunting and a little scary, but to Jupiter in Scorpio natives the quality is so ingrained in who they are (and have always been) that it generally ceases to trouble them. Instead, it's what they choose to do with this deeper wisdom that inevitably makes or breaks them.
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Jupiter in Scorpio straddles a serious fence between good and evil, arguably moreso than any other planetary placement (aspects are a whole other thing, naturally). In the (long ago) past, children born in the years where Jupiter was placed in Scorpio were considered marked by the devil. Although it always endows it's natives with a certain "badass" quality, it can manifest in drastically different ways depending on how it is aspected elsewhere in the natal chart. If well aspected, Jupiter in Scorpio's are often gifted investigators, artists/writers and political/spiritual leaders. If afflicted, there is a tendency toward extreme violence, cult leadership/mind control and exploitation of power. There has been extensive study on this offbeat placement because of it's extreme polarity- there is a wealth of information available on the internet if you're interested.
EXAMPLES OF "GOOD" BADASS VS. "BAD" BADASS
Charles Manson (cult leader), Ted Bundy (serial killer), Erik Menendez (murdered parents), Al Capone (gang leader, murderer) , Joseph Mengele (infamous nazi doctor called "The Angel of Death"), L. Ron Hubbard (cult leader), OJ Simpson (murderer, wife beater), David Koresh (cult leader, child molestor), Aleister Crowley (cult leader), and Joseph Fritzel (locked daughter & children she bore him through rape in a windowless cellar for almost 30 years) all had/have their Jupiter in Scorpio, for example.
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On the other hand Patti Smith (singer/performance artist/poet), Kurt Vonnegut (author), Edvard Munch (expressionist painter), Leo Tolstoy (author), Rainer Maria Rilke (poet), Tchaikovsky (composer), Claude Monet (impressionist painter), Vladimir Nabokov (author), Deepak Chopra (spiritual guru), Carl Sagan (atheist leader/ideologist) and the Dalai Lama XIV also do.
Strangely, it's somewhat easy to see the elusive quality that all of these people share- all of them deal/t in the darker side of life. Jupiter in Scorpio always feels most alive when walking the thin line between good and evil. What can't be denied is that this placement instills in it's natives an almost perverse fascination with (and understanding of) the underbelly of humanity. They feel a deep sense of satisfaction in forcing the darkness of life into the light, even moreso if it happens to also scare the **** out of everyone else. What separates the good from the bad (or the "gods" from the "monsters") is that where most natives are satisfied in expressing this darkness through music, poetry, art and non-oppressive spirituality, others seem to need to "go the extra mile" (so to speak) by expressing it through absolute human cruelty and religious extremism.
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wow
anyone able to relate?
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Big Grin
Glad to be of service

it's a little scary to me,this part in particular is so dead accurate
clever, charming and somewhat underhanded quality to them that can be difficult to pin down. There's almost always a degree of social power evident in these individuals, mostly due to their ability to clearly see (and exploit, if they choose to) the ugly, hidden parts of everything around them- people, situations, etc. This overwhelming need to both uncover and possess the absolute, dirty truth of every circumstance sounds daunting and a little scary, but to Jupiter in Scorpio natives the quality is so ingrained in who they are (and have always been) that it generally ceases to trouble them. Instead, it's what they choose to do with this deeper wisdom that inevitably makes or breaks them.

I do not even wish to elaborate, but That is..
yeh.
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